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" WlieiL fonsd, make ft not* ef."— Capuih CxmuL 

fourth, sbeies. —volume seventh. 
Jahuary — June 1871. 



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CONTENTS.— N» 168. 

KOTBB! — AllPfor7in"the Pwrio QuBon," 1 — Latlerurf 
Nell Gwvniie mid Kitty CUie. 2 — Mom Vultur, 3— Lon- 
don Caire« Boiuca, 6 — Iiogal ODniiiion.I>lio«, tontp. 
JUDC* 1.. Ib.—Ciaxbon doTiTre: n LiefO Legeiid. J — 
Dr. Arbuthnot.S — An loodited E1(«; ta; Oliin Ootd- 
nnUh — IMunpHKlH In Datrg — The lf>to Hlr fiimuel 
O'Hallej. Bart. — BhrDiHbire8ajrliiK«— E;iI■■pBlU'lAl■c4 — 
ATtrsce of Humn Ufe — Fnnch War Sonfi — Hunt 
Oenla Tunnel, ». 

QUSBtBK: — Allnrion winted r Hcniy Vnnrtmn- Amtrl- 
can -NUlonil Bonn"— Anna of Flemwh Fnmlllea — 
Bmb Audlc; of Mndbwh — Bible llluatntkmi - Jobn 
Borer — Cathfldnl Bell* — Cobblon' Lunbi in Ilal; — 
CookBB; Cooliewjr; Cooke — Coniiih smken In Devon- 
ahire — The Dncon— Eistrm Storr- Sir Charlss^nr- 
ton, Knight — SqulvuleDt ForelEn Titio — " Le Farceur 

-*-■ '- ■■- la Nuif- Letter o"'-'-'-- "--'■•- 

iknlM - B ■ - 

.. ,. Pnol«.or! 

printed Hooks— The Pri 

tfBnunclfltion of Greek and Latin, At, 11. 

BEPLIES; —The Block Books, 13 — Parodies, IS — The 
~ Blae-Lavi " of Connecticut, 18 — St. Auguetin's Ser- 
moni.lT — 4 Winlnr Saving - Bobur t^aroll — Pear Tree 

— B>Rht to auirter Amu — Baron Nicholion — Epigram 
oo tbe Walcfieron Bipedltlon — Bobrrt de Comjii, B«rl 
of NoTthumbarltnd — CacumbBT — Lothing Land — " Cer- 
toalno" — Ancient BooUijh Deed ~ Hojal Toimgriphy — 
l^alet of Ampi^- "Tberewas a Uttle Han"- The 
gwan^Song of PanoD Axery — Irish Forfelturea — Fatehin 

— Tbe BoDbnter Boapjtal — Babiea' Bella — Eratatlci — 
Bamplers — Tbe Bi^-Blabop of the Propaganda for Cbrlit- 
mu — Dor or Door— The Piri* Cataeomba, Ac. IS. 


■ BtjlM bia poem "a coctiriued aUegoij 

IT dark cod 

or dark conceit"; but he doea not bj that mean 
to Baj tbat it forms one continued allegory in tbe 
teaae in vhicit we now underatand the term. In 
fact there is but one allegfiCT in it — aamelj, the 
firat book, " The Legend of Holiness "• and in all 
tb« rest of thAuein tbe chaiactera are mere 
impersonations of morel or phjaicol qualities, or 
of real persons, without anyspedallj eonnected 
series of events, I will here bnefiy state my con- 
ceptimi of what I regard as the only allegoiy of 
tbe poem. This, then, I take Ic be the history 
of the Church from its commenceineDt till the 
poet's own time. In Una I see, not Truth simply, 
bat the True Church ; in Duessa, not mere False- 
hood, but the False Church— that of Rome. The 
father and mother of Una, the king and queen 
of Eden, I take to be God the FaUier and the 
andesit Adnmic or patnarchal Church. In tha 
Diafpod I discern the ^at enemy of man, Satan.- 
In tbe Ked-CTOss Eni^ht the Christian people, 
n-presented by St. George^ the patron saint of 
England, the great champion of tbe true faith ; 
and finally, in Archimage, Satan in his charaotor 
of tbe tempter and seducer. 

The adTentoree of the knight begin with bis 
entering the grore of Error, and his encounter- 
ing and slaying tbat monster. By this ia pro- 

bably meant the conflict with tbe Tarioua forma 
of religious error or heresy in the Cburcb. Arch- 
image then trios bis wiles, and separates tbe 
kni^t from Una; but his doinr so by making 
him suspect ber purity seems rather to break the / 
allegory. However, he abandons her, and then 
falls in with Duessa in company with a " futbless 
Sarazin " named Sansfoy, tbat is, Paganism, whom 
be slays; and be ia then deceived fay Duessa, who 
conducts him to the House of Pride, tbat is, tho 
Roman Empire, which now becomes Christian. 
Here be encounters and slays a brother of Sansfoy, 
named Saasjo^, by which is perhaps meant tha 
joyless condition of tbe Empire when separated 
from tlie True Cburcb, On his discovering the 
real nature of tbe House of Pride, he seizes the 
earliest opportunity of flight, and abandons it. 

Una meanwhile wanders alone in search of tbe 
champion who had deserted her. She meets with 
a lion, who becomes her protector. This lion 
forces an entrance for ber into tbe bouse of Cor- 
ceca and Abessa, and kills Kirkrapine, tbe para- 
mour of tbe latter ; but is himself slain soon after, 
defending Una against a Paynim named Sanaloy, 
who bad overcome Archimage, who had rejoined 
herunder the form of tbe Red-cross Enight From 
him she is delivered bv a band of fawns and 
aatyra whom her abriekB brought to her aid. 
They lead her to their abode in the woods and 
mountains, where she lives among them and in- 
Btiucts them in morals and religion. By tbe aid 
of a knight named Sir Satyrane she leaves them, 
and sets out agun in quest of the Red-cross 

Id this part of the allegory the lion seems to 
signify tiie counts of Toulouse, who protected the 
True Church wainst tbat of Borne, and guned its 
members admission into tbe religious houses 
agmnst the will of their inmates, and punished 
those who made spoil of sacred things. By the 
Paynim Sansloy may iie meant the papal adhereuta 
under De Montfort and others, who overcame the 
counts of Toulouse, and from whom Una b saved 
by the satyrs, that ia, the Waldepses, whoso 
abode was m tbe woods and valleys of Svritzer- 
land. Sir Satyrane, who ia connected with tbem, 
I take to represent tbe Huguenots of France, who 
derived their creed and their name from the 
reformer of Switzerland; and it is very remark- 
able tbat he and Sansloy are left fighting— just 
as tbe Huguenots and tbe Papists were at the 
time— and are not mentioned any more in this 

Tbe Red-cross Eni^t meantime ia overlaken 
and agfun seduced by Duessa, and he drinks of a 
fountdn. tbe water of which quite enervates bim, 
and be is then seized and tlirown into a loath- 
some dungeon by a huge giant, who makes 
Duessa his leman, dressea ber ma^Gcentlv, and 
monnta ber on a strange beast witk aeven bead«. i 
;i:izea by VjOOy It 



Here tben we bnTe in this giant Chulemagne 
and bis miccessoK, the powei and glory of the 
PapftCT, and the misenble thraldom of the 
Cbristitio people. 

Una having learned the fate of her knigbt, now 
appeals to Pnnoe Arthur, whom abe meeto ; and 
he fights and alajs the ^nt, delivers t^e knight, 
and strips and exposes Duessa, who fiies to Hide 
her shams in the wilderness. Prince Arthur, the 
poet tells qs, is Magnificence, ■'. e. the doin^ of 
great deeds. He is the impersonation of Bntish 
royalty as shown forth in the house of Tudor, 
and W8 have here the victory of that house over 
the papacy and its abettors. 

In order to restore her knight to the vieeur 
requisite for his conflict with tbe dragon, Una 
now leads him to tbe House of HoUnesSj where 
he is put through a course of instruction and 
discipline bv Futh, Hope, and Charity, the daugh- 
ters of Holiness. He then engages the dragon, 
whom be overcomes and slays alter a perilona 
conflict of three daya' duration. At the end of 
tbe first day, when tbe hero's strength is nearly 
exhausted, it is restored by his falling into tbe 
Well of Life ; and at the end of the second day 

tbe well and tree I think the two sacramenb 
seem to be indicated. The remainder of the 

allegory is simple and easy to be understood, 

I will only mrther observe, that the allegorical 
chanusters cease with this book. So when we 
meet with the Red-cross Enight and Satyrane 
again, they are simply knights of Faerie, Archi- 
mage a mere enchanter, and Duessa tbe Queen 

of Scots. THDB. KUBHTLET. 


Deab Mr. Esitob— 

Id your interesting Miscellany yon have re- 
cently introduced two letters from Nell Qwynne, 
I think it might please your readers to have a 
copy of her letter which is in my collection of 
auto^aphs. It is, no doubt, authentic, and was 
formerly in tbe possession of Mr. Singer, at whose 
ssle I bought it. It was so well illustrated by 
our dear mutual friend Mr. Bruce, and introduced 
by him, with same others, into tbe CamJen MU- 
cellimif (ml. v.>, that I addto it bisvaluablenolcs. 
I also enclose another curious specimen, written 
by the famous Eittv Clive, addressed no doubt 
to her friend Mias Po^ the actress, of whom 
Horace Walpole, writing to the Counteas of 
Ossory on July 16, 1788, says:— 

" Miss Pope his bean at Mn. CUtc'i this week, and I 
have Dot b«n able to call on them. I wrote a line of 
cicuK, bat hoped very soon to salate Jliu Fept't ifi. 
Excuse my ToMagt, bat wbat better can yoa expect i " 

Kitty's letter: — 

" It is very tme Hadarn we are robbed in the &ca of 
the Sun, ■■ well as at tbe golni; down thereof. I know 
not how otber districts fare, but for fire milea ronitd ds 
we an In perpetual je(msrdj. Two of our Jiuticee, i«- 
taming from a Cabinet Council of their owo, at Brent- 
ford, were robbed last week before three o'clock, at tbe 
gates of Twickenham : nowoDder; 1 believe they are all 
hoodwinked, like their AIikb Mater herself, and, coose- 

rndf as they cannot eee, it is not sorprising that both 
and they abauld often weigh oat their goods with 
naeqoal acalea." 

Can you or any of your readers tell me who 
Mrs. Hart was, and tbe "old Weasel which sha 
left behind"? ' WiixiAM Trn. 

48, Lowndes Sqnare. 

pray Deaie Mr. Hide ' forgive me for not write- 
ing to you before now for the reasons is I have 
bin dck thre months & sinse I recoverd I hava 
bad nothing to intertaine you witball nor have 
nothing now worth writing but that I can holda 
no longer to let yon know I never have ben in 
any companie wetbout drinking your health for 
I loue you with all my soule. the pel mel is now 
to me a dismals plese sinso; I have utcrly lost S' 
CarScrope'never toberecourdagane for he tould 
me he could not live allwayes at this rate & to 
begune to be a,Iittel uncivil, ^whicb I could not 
sufer from an uglve baux gartcon. M' Enighta* 
Lady mothers dean & she has put up'ascutchm no 

beiger then my Lady grins' 

My lord 

Lory or Lawrence tvde, second son of Lord Chancellor 
Clarendon, created Bart of Rochester in 16Si. Id May 
and Jnna 1678 he was at the Hagne |y diplomatic basi- 
nesl. ( GrjvjpnuJenCf of Garendon and HochttttTi L 
16, 20.) 

a Sir Carr Scrope was created a baronet IG6T-8, and 
died anmarried 1680. Be was one of tbe witty com- 
panions of Charles II., and aathor of variona poetical 
effosions. to be fonud in Dryden's Miictlbaiiti. Johnsoo 
notices hlni la bis life of Rochester. 

> Mrs. Knigbt, a singer of great celebritv, and a rival 
to Nell Gwynne in the tender regard of Charles II. She 
is mentioned by both Kvelyn and Fepyi. although the 
latter had not heard her sing up to Ibe period at which 
his diary closes. The name of ber Lady-mother has not 
been found. 

* Lady Greene, who escaped the leaearcbes of Mn. 
Baucx, has been identified by Ur. J. G. XtcnoLa 
("N. A Q." 9'' 3. Tiii. 418). Site was another faYourite 
of Charles II., by whom she was the mother of bis bod 
Charles Fiti-Charles, created ia 1675 Earl of Plymouth, 
and of I daughter Kitherine. Lady Greene was Ea- 
therlne, daughter of Ttiomas Pegge, Esq. of Yeldetsley, 
CO. Derby ; became the wife of Sir Edward Greene, Itart. 
of Sampford in Essex, who died in Flinden in 1676. 
Lady Greene herself had proliably died shortly befbre tfaia 
letter was written.— Ei). "N.& Q." 

* • Probsblv the writer misplaced the a In this word, 
writing inoiciif for iCiicAiiM. b A— itXiQiC 

■■■ l^nl Hnrlara, u ir< uare altead^ DotlcM, «u toe 
(Ucr dT Nell Qwynoe's two cbildran by the kiog. Ha 
'u born eth Mar, 1670, created Lord Borford oa th« 
i7lh December, 1676, and Doke of SL Albu's on tha 10th 
Ju. lfl«3-l. 

" Lord Beancleik, Nail GwTiiiie'g j-aanger aon, was 
Ixan !5[h Decembtr, 1671, and died, a* «a have before 
nmatked, at Paiia in Septambar, 1680. 

'* Ladj Harrey was Elixabetb, liatar of Ralph third 

Kaisaea represenuiive oi laat, cm 
Harvey on the atage. in the chi 
Ladj' Hatvey " provided people 

of Serapronia. 

her and flinff 
igea at her," and, that being aDBacceMTal, procured 
lord Chamberlain to imprison her. Lad; Castle- 

_ made the king 

tnrbanca «aa ---■-' ' 
In the mean t 
bawador to CoaBtaatiaopIc 

Ited both in tba tbaatra and at conrt. ' i -i/ -ii) [p 
Sir Duilel Hbtvb; waaaent away am*— ^*-^*-^^ '*- 


ti^S.VIl. JAS.7,7i. 

cliestnuts, tad, in its higher ranges, with beeches 
and pinea. It was Bucb a day for heat as inspired 
Horace to OMg {Cartn. III. 4, 9) : — 
" He fabnlasBB Yultare in Appnlo, 
Altiidn extra limen & puUie, 
Ludo faUgBlumque Bomoo 
Fronde novi pueium palumbea 
Woodpigeons are still as Dumeroiu as they 
vere in the davs of Horace ; while the cooiDg of 
the doTB and tLe humming of the bees invited to 
sleep. I approached the mountain from the side 
of Melfi, which gives name to the highest peak, 
"11 Pizzuto di Melfi," four thousand three liuit- 
dred and fifty-seTen feet above the level of the sea. 
The approach to the mountain is through vine- 
yards, which grow with great luiuriance, as vines 
always do on volcanic seals. The wine is strong, 
and requires dilution for the sober Italian. 

At the foot of the mountain to the north, the 
Anfidus could be traced for man^ miles by the 
winding of the valley through which it mns. Id 
its upper eonree it is a stream of no great siie in 
summer, though evidently a violent torrent from 
the winter enow and rain. I can easily under- 
stand why its presiding nymjihs should have been 
propitiated by the superstitious, as the following 
inscription shows : — 

iriMPHia . ATFIBI 

C . MAOIVS . . F 

BEST . £T . DEDIC . 

It is particularly interesting to find the name 
of MsgiuB Velleianua in this neighbourhood, and 
we cannot but imagine that we may have here 
Ma^i^us Celer Velleianus, brother of the historian 
Velleius Paterculus, who served as leeata to 
Tiberius in the Dalmatian war a.d. 9, and shared 
in the honours of his commander's triumph. At 
the time of Augustus's death (a.d. 14), he and 
his brother were the " caudidati Ccesaris " for the 
prfBtorship (VdO. Pat. n. 116, 121, 124). It is 
the more likely that this should he so, as the 
family, though originally of the hig-hest rank in 
Capua (Liv. xxiii. 7, 10), were evidently settled 
in this direction, as the "atavus" of Velloius 
Paterculus is called by him " Asculanensis " (Veil. 
Fat. n. 16), distinguished in the Social War 
(b.C^) by his fidelity to the Romans. Now 
Asculum Apulum Atcoli is at no great distance 

&om the banks of the Aufidus, and the property 
■J - othemnn- 
dations of the river. 

of Magius might be often subjected to tl 

The forest Sfonticchio, with its lofty and aged 
trees, afforded a pleasant shade as I ascended the 
■lopes. There can be no doubt of the volcanic 
nature of the mountain : there are several craters, 
but one in particular far more perfect than that of 
Vesuvius. The ndes of this crater rise in nearly 

an unbroken line around, dotted with finer speci- 
mens of timber than I bate ever seen, even in 
our northern regions. Historical records ore silent 
as to the time when it was in operation; but the 
intelligent inhabitanta mtuctain that tl)ey would 
be in a ereat measure relieved from the earth- 
quakes that desolate their countiy if it were 
agun to burst forth and let off the pent-up gases 

It is curious that I should have heard the same 
observation when I was (it Caaal Nuovo, in 
southern Calabria, the centrsl spot, where the 
earthquake of 1763 had been felt moat severely, 
and where the Princess Gerace and many thou- 
sands of the inhabitants had been swallowed up. 
Towards the south my host pointed to the highest 
mountaia, Aspromonle, and said that all their 
calamities arose from that central point. This 
was the opinion of one who had watdied for half 
a century the shocks to which they were con- 
stantly subject, and this man, abwrmit napiem, 
was probably not far from the truth. 

In the larpeat crater of Mona Vultur are two 
small lakes, from which at times issue sulphureous 
exhalations, like those which rise from Lacus 
Ampsanctua, which is at no ereat distance, and is 
no doubt counected with thi^ ancient volcano. 
The inhabitants, feel that they are resting on a 
volcano that mi^ht burst out at any moment, as 
Vesuvius did eighteen hundred years ago; bat 
the Italians are in genera! a pious race, and have 
much dependence on a Higher Power. They havff 
frequent admoniUous by slight shocks ; and I was 
told that the appearance ot the lakes gave warn- 
ing of what was likely to happen, as they became 
more turbulent and threw out exhalations more 
hirgely before a severe shock took place. There 
are more than a dozen cones scattered over the 
surface of the mountain, but, what is very curious, 
no appearance of any extensive stream of lava. 
To my eye, the little lava I saw had much more 
of a basaltic structure than what I had been 
accustomed to see round the base of Vesuvius. 

Sulphureous springs are abundant I heard of 
"una mofeta con due bocehe" at La Rendina, 
where the country was efBorescent with sulphur. 
At Barile, origmally a colony of Albanians, there 
is another very powerful spring, which is used for 
chronic diseases by the inhabitants of the sur- 
rounding country. Near Atella there is said to 
be another still more strongly satuntted; indeed, 
on every side of the mountain such springs 

There is an idea prevalent among Italian 
geologists that Mons Vultur was in distant ages 
close to the Adriatic, as thev believe that Puglia 
Pisna, as it is called, was then submerged, and 

only nusad gradoally by the violent throes of 

"" lonbt that thu mrt of Italy 

above the level of the sea, 

nature, Thwe 
is only slightly 

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&nd Venusia would have then formed an inUnd 

I tntvelled for thirty miies nlong the baoka of 
the Aufidus, from CauQce to Veaufiia, and I was 
particularlj struck bj the level nature of the 
oonnlTj till I amved near to the Urth-place of 
HoMce. Venuda stands in the water-shed of a 
ridge, on one nde of which the waters flow into 
the Aufidus and hence into the Adriatic, while 
on the othei the; fall into the river Bradamis, 
DOW Bradano, at the mouth of which I found, 
some fifty miles farther south, the rains of the 
celebrated temple at Metepontum, now known to 
the inhabilanta as " Tavola dei Paladini." The 
Bndanus has a long course, taking its rise at the 
foot of Mons VultiiT, and flowing southward into 
the Oulf of Tarauto, it formed the boundary 
between Apulia and Lucanin. 

At the time when Fuglia fHana ia supposed to 
hnve been submerged, (geologists imagine that the 
Oulf of Taisnto was united to the Adriatic acroes 
the neck of land which joins Brundusium to 
Tarentam: so that the Japygiiui peninsula must 
then have been an island. No doubt this neck of 
Und is at no great height above the sea level. I 
trarelled along it from Manduria, through Uria, 
to Brunduuum. I found that it waa at Uria Lhe 
central point, where the ridge began to rise, 
which runs northward and forms what is known 
to the Italians as Puglia Fietrosn. A very slight 
subsidence would again make the Japygian penin- 
sula into an island. 

Cbacpued Tait Rakage. 


I have in my possession a copy of Mendez's Col- 
bction of Poems, which you are aware was pub- 
lished in 1707 OS n supplement to Dodsley's 
Collection. I am not about to -make any remark 
upon the book itself j but on the Sy-leaves, st Che 
beginning and end, are written in the neatest of 
hands two poems. One is called " The Quakers' 
Ueettn«', by Mr. John Ellis: " this I do not propose 
to trouble you with, as it has no great merit, snd 
would not suit the taste of the present day. The 
other, however, may be interesting, not as a poem, 
bnt as iUuRtrating the manners and customs of 
onr ancestors, and as recalling the memory of 
many houses of public resort and entertainment 
in the neighbourhood of the Royal Exchange, 
many of them probahly being no longer in exist- 
eoea. It is called an "Epistle from M. Mendez, 
Esq., to Mr. J. Ellis" — no doubt the author of 
the other poem, but of nhom the biographical 
books (tt present at my call do not (^ve any 
account. He was, no doubt, a choice spirit of the 
day, or, more correctly perhiipe, the night. 

1 gire yon the whole poem, but there is one 

' When lo Ellis I write, I in verse mast iodile — 

Come PbicbuE, and give me a knock : 
For on FriJaj at eight, all behind the 'Change gate, 
Mr. £tlia will be at tlie Cock. 

I wUI try to be ther^ where I firmlv daclare 

Not the Head of the Pop 
Such wine oa we drin! 

a shall invite us to 
at the Cook. 


In learn'd Abchnrch Lane let them awill their oham 

'TUI lhe nqaor their M 

Let them fiddle and aing 

\Vc have wit with oar 

at the Arms of the 
wine at the Cock. 


A Swan 

e Swaji in a H 

wonder, 'tis ime, 

IS deeper red at the Cock. 

< A bumper, no less, 'tis (a Britain's success. 
Ma3' her navv stand stoat as a rock i 
May >he bang the Ftench fleet wheresoever thay meet, 
And make them a mere Shrove-tide Cock. 

" Tis time to be cone, for lbs 'Change boa Struck one: 
O, 'tis in impertiaect dock I 
For with Ellia I'd stay from September to Mayj 
I'll Slick to my friend end the Cock. 

• " M. M." 
EiclnnoniJ, Surrey. ■^'. C. 


I have a dilapidated common-place book in 
which are entered several MS. notes of eases, rules 
and orders of Court, dicta of judges, and legal 
memoranda, in two different hands — those dated 
1601, 2, 8, apparently copied from original notes 
by a clerk, and those of 1004, 5j 6, 7 in the re- 
porter's own handwriting, which is somewhat dif- 
ficult to decipher. The Lord Keeper named waa 
doubtiess Sir Thomas Egerton, anerwarda Lord 
Chancellor ; the Attorney-general, Sir Edward 
Coke. Mr. Bacon was Francis Bacon, who be- 
came lord Chancellor i Hunt, LL.D., a 

Master in Chancery, and in 160S Master of the 

• The entries are under the following heads ; — 
Subpoena, Attachments, Comisuone, Respondones, 
Qenerall obseivacoDS, tTiter alia. 1601, 

*• None may make or passe greens Bookes by my I.order 
appoynlinent [et this present] bnt 6. (vli.) my ftthes 


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;r tbf n ■ Ihowsam 

(bat not uCierka of the Croirne) rthe clearkeofj th« 
Hamper ind 4 more, or sucli ea my Lord sball nominste, 
but he maj naine as manie ■> he like. 

Tbe reason wliie sett bund bnokes or groene bookca be 
vrilt in vellum ya L^cause )bat everfc vorde tberin is 
wrKlen at lerglhl as Ricbardna and noe RicbQ^ and not 

TermlnoMicliU anno R. Segii Jac' nrimn apud Winlon 
1603, U Novemhr. Tills terms for the sickn« was ad- 
ioiaed vnto Wiiitdu Citiv : lill Cm. Martini. Tbe mcote 
poynt was berion. whether [bo dav of CiO. Jlirtyni, or 
Ib« i daje after (^ ii.) Twes.lnv, sboiilde be thcfiisto dave 
or not, vt was resulanl it. M' Tjndill toald ni so in the 
King's Bedchamber at Winchester, that beloge madelbe 

_■. — ,. ., 1.._ 1- — p„ Loi, Chancellor. 

-PulilioacCn — Demurrer — E xamin- 
■cOn of WiUntsipa — Bra ile Exocucof — Beplicotiona — 
Rdunctio— Dcdim* Polestatfm— Acute et grariler diet]-. 

M' Bacon layd: Ibe poore man went like ■ sheepe to 
■ Boihe in ■ storme, and he robbed him of all his »oc>11. 

Let one devill tormoiit the other irnyd my Lord Kecfi' 
to a question askcl liim what should become of tlie 
Broker; that both Broker ib rusurer bad conspired id 
co^n a jountie Kentleman. 

One oath in the alGrma 
in the negative. 

U' D'tor Ilant in Conrte bcinge deinaunded tbe cirill 
lave rule in witnesses. 

My Lo''* Keeji sayd no man goeth l)y the Kings high- 
way hot the dofrgs will Imrke at hiin! nearer kit an 
hane«t man can for yll wordes, they be but dogga bark- 

in B maltha of yll carriage: alihongbe there be no 
flpparant proofcs, j^et everie su^picfln carrielh hts force: 
and y( there be snodrie easpllions omnea auapitiooes 
creieimt, sayth my Lti''' Keeji. 

I will not cutt the bodj-e because tbe coale is too Httle, 
■peikinge of a mans intent bj his last will to estate some 
«f bis (Mends, but wanted forme. [Ld. Keeji in margin.] 

Qui in p'tibna mentitnr ncrnrius est. 

<lui Tuam et eandem rem duol'us vendit, fraodnlenlns 

s patrem [altered from 

Magis et minns non difTerant specie. My Lord Keep 
spceklnge that 4 iu tbe hundred waa as mnch vsuric as 
10 io Ibe hundred. 

Lilts et leris alieni cnmes mii?rii. Idem. 

You had tbe Bird in to' hand, rou might kill him or 
lett bim tlie at yo' pleasure. Idein. 

Plus Talent duo atBnoantes quam mills negantes. 
Doc Hunt in curia. 

Volenli non fit ioiiiria modo non inductiis !it fraude ad 
lllam voluntalem, [Dns cuslos in marg.] 

You brusbe j'o'sealf so longethslrnu broshe the dust 
Into TO' owno eyes. L^ Keeper to Sient Spurlingo that 
excused him eeBirofaD itnpulacon butb long* & emestlie. 

This cawse bath been carried in the heigth of wilt and 
atrengtb of nordes, and thcirfore impar congressus for 
me lu awnsner, in regard of my insuffieyencve in the 
" case bclweene Francklvn and Oascnisne. Qiiispinxit 
leonem, speakinge of aforgeil deede beingein the pirtyes 
hande that conqilayned of the forgeiye iherof. [M' 
Bacon in marg.] 

My L<la marks of an yll cause be manye. Amongste 
the rest one to make prirate peticons.'and worke to 
pTcrt Justice by private Ires and mnenu of crcat men. 
And my Lonl Tseth lo say I am a blabber and p'sentlio 
will discover the content of the Irv and meanes rsed in 
tbe behalf of the ptye. [Dns Custos.] 

You warble in yo'sealf j Tou are nowe pnsbing to farr. 

A bodye pulitiauc bath no sonle and therfore some of 
Ihem Tmagine they should base no conscvence [Dns 
CusteeJ speakinge oftheDeane of Rochester D'coTlllan;;e. 
TantiE ne animis cojleslibus inc. Speaking of clergic- 
mena felrce psecucon of a cawse. 

M' Attomev spealiingc of the malieioos carriaj^ ofa 
cause by ecclesiaalicall and church psons. Clericnt in 
oppido tanqunm piscis in arido. 

VI fblicil.i[i» est poMC qnantom veils sic mannitudinii 
nullo qnantum possis. / in a demurrer tnt' Bowes et 
diiamR— ■ -•'^.-•--- 

You have made a longe enlrie (o a liltle hnirse speak- 
in)ct to M' Bi.i;i;in4 that vseda longe p-ftee lo a cause of 
little worth, and might bavo been* sooner anaweird. 
[Dns Custos.] 

rosgibiliive is Ihemotherof hope, and hope the nurfeof 
dQ>ire. M''KiDge at Powlea crosw -25" Uclobr. 

This cawse will f,ire like a froste, for yt will hare a 
fowle end. Michis 44«' et 46". [ Dns Custos.] 

Jtj Lo'* asked what did the jitye give him that ha 
should vndertako ail their charges, all that he had my 
Lord awnswered they. All that he had savd my Lord yt 
may be that iras of small or no Talen.'', Much like yv' 
awnswer to the sayinge of Peeter lo Chrisle. Wee hana 
forsaken all and followed tbe. I knowe nothing S' 
Pcetcr had but an dwM boate and a broken ni tt. So may 
yo' all be, U Oclo; 44'> et 4i». 

The same to M" Fnlliambe havingo ordered that an 
anruitye of Isnx" p nnnnm eboald be p'* to hir from hir 
husband ('bo bcinge severed (Vom him) and liTste ap- 
poynted the Rolls for the place of payment at hir request, 
and then she altertnge that niinde requested yt micht be 
paid hir at Yorke, w* he likewise granieil; Lastlie 
naming* a third place changn'ng* hir former opiuiun ; mv 
Lord sayd, (seinge hir so variable) M" Fulliambe yt will 
trumpe a good Tavler to make a garment for the mnone. 

This was spoken two vesrcs befbre the former about 14 

[The following ai 

"Michis IGOl. I 

la fjofi 

. 12. LA Kwp. Kon refert de 


id by 


Singularitas ta-tium viiiat testimonium— Idem: 
one by one have scene or hearde apeake such a thing and 
not S or more at one tymc. 

20 Octobris. M' Attorney Generall dining at the (1 
clearkes otnce with vi : sayed : Oleum in summo, vinuni 
in medio, et mel in imo is all wayes beat. 

20 Sove. 1604. My L' Chancel^r Inxedone chnpplngo 
of one nn other before they had finished tber speacties out 
of S' Jerom as he snyest touching speaeb. 1. Silenili pa- 
(Icnlia. 2. Loquendi opportnoitas. 3. Tirlulis funda- 
ment a. 

lllllarii. 1R04. 3. It. R. S. 

Tyll 32 [I. H. no man might devise liis Isnde by 
will Tulesse it weare in cerlayno manners Ibut hnd 
snch a custom, and in my opioion it halh breade many 
. . . ementa that a dying man payned and distracted 
thcrby iboold in articnio morlis wlun his soule shood be 
proui^ing viaticum for that neaver recoring iorncy 
shonid bestow his thongbla (haTing no learned men hj-) 
on the inherilanc* of his lande. 

Idem.-'Cum factor rerum priuaMct semina clemm I , , 
Ad aalanie Totum snccestit herba nepotumi: iV^ 

<<* S. VII. 3iS. 7, 71.] 


Sly L' CtuDMUiira owld vena od the eliiarev por- 
chMiDK Iindtt tot th«r nevewa, otberwj'B tbcr cturjnu. 

I'taeiti 3 iaeohilWo. 

April! IB — Hy L' Keep wved gpeiluDg of Copley, a 


pbi.'-itian may puree humoTes bat not moiea. 
S3 Apr. Dnfu Ingenii at ^rmiau p«cc*tL M' 

T Itniyiiing 

tomy gpeibiDg of pRsgnont 
Ihe coDfcieiiee. 

Trio. 1605. 11° Jaoij. U' Atlorny. U&le fBeUnles 
CBiraDt lU patentn, epeakiug of soitera to nobtemeh for 

A Jeweller being demuided of « Lady wb«t vertire the 
(tMnea she had bau|;lit of him had, answered, graau 
Teitue madam that caa <lrave one haodred twwnd otft of 
your pane to mvne, fui ao niach ihe bad paved fur 
them— (spoaken of the SOOO" band vauloae had of the 
complesae of Pemlrooke for 200 perle to pay HOO for 
theni.) L. Chancier. 

Miehia, IfiOS, 16 No; fr. Bacon. 

The nature of Jiuti^ diitributiae ia to eonaider not 
only de toto bnt do tanto, and not to pronoance aentctice 
by ounces and draiaca but by grainca. 

The ciutomG and maaner for Uarche Lorda ii to hBTg 
TppMi en'y altetacOn by deatlie, but not by purchase 
■lienacon, of the Ten nth a eertane kind of c ' '-'' 


n- benevolence (bntyeCofdutie) wbicbe they call Jficyt. 
The Eaile of rembroke pretendoth the like on' tht 
Boroucbe of Carieion, of whom be daiineth a contribu- 
tion of 4" {( aau* towaida the paimu of fire hundred 
HiBikes (vhich be Lis whole micii) to be paid in fire 
rearea. Tbia eantewaa handled in the Chan: eonita 
htton the M' of the Rolei Jostica Warb.itun and Do' 
Uonle 15 Ho. IGDj anil two fonner decrees were ahewod 
in the Corte by the Lo: of Pembr: coonBelL 

iThe two last entries are in the first hand.] 
rio. 4, 160(1, Julij 3. 

Ignoruilia Jndicis : miseria inoeenlla, 
Uitiua miaseranli: mellos peretnr. 
The L' Cooke, L* Cheef Jualice aaaiating io Chancery. 
S' July, LoO Cooke being Attor. 
Infonning against the L'l of KorCh . . . the atarr 
Chamber 2 July, 1606. He uyed suspictoncs lerea, 
might causa eiaminBlion, prohabiles. incarcerBtion, and 
TIMentn et Tehementea condemnatiDn, 
Michis, 5 Jacobi, 1607. 
Oetobr 7. The L' Cbancelloni aaved to 
Tcary earn 
gaule in y 

M" BabinglOTi, M« Ashe, and with them 8 or more 
gentlewomen bring in Ihe Coort ; my L' Chancel, sayd 
what make all ahees.. .more flU Co be al aatagplay heere 
is a Gynoeeum : then came ould mother atepheua with hei 
doake'and mufled ; over the coort to them. What can we 
bait lerne fay . . heer. 

Trinity Tenne, 6, 1608. Tiimas dies Termini. 

Usy 27. The L' Chaocellor sayed : dislyking the 
cterRya leasee miking and to ther children and of dl- 
minisUDg the renenuei of Ihe churches i this is ablative 
diuinily, for here ia taking away of ther Uvingn bat in 
fgnner tymea when Ibeire endowments weare to the 
eharch : that tyme ther divinity was la the dative case, 

[Tbe last entry.] 

On a blank page : 

HaiT aeoiioge Robb wrongfnllye for the wch Robert 
pvyethe for biie after this man'., and wiahethe bim lelr 
not better end jf ever adid deserve yt. 
1 flkrvently beseeebe 
B God of might 

that all the plague ofhcvcn i erlhe 

norr fynd noe frend in her distrajse 
that may her woe reltossc.' 

G. A. CABTffBW, 


In the year 1108 » ^i blacltsmitli in the dij 
of Liege was toiling in an objure street where 
his wretched little forge wm estnbliahed. He 
wu working awsj aa hard as he could, and hie 
face was bedewed with perspiration. 

A stranger who was pa«BinK down the atreet, 
obserring the cameBt manner with which the hardy 
amitb wa« labouring, stopped to look at bim. 

Thia stranger was a Ter; venemble old man, 
with htXr and beard as white as snow; and he 
WHS arrayed in gnnnente that were ue same 
colour as his bcud and hair. (Canitie el barbd 
witerandiu, albd vciU iadutui, Gillas d'Orval, t, iL- 

" That is a weariaome trade jon have devoted 
yourself to," sud the stranger. " Are ;ou con- 

Siroflta it yields yon 
'Otlta do jou think I 
e blacksmith, as he wiped hia fore- 

I can derive from 

What profits do you t 

] the blacksmith, as he wiped 
head. " Nearly everything I j[ain by my labour 
1 am obliged to expend in buying this miserable 
ehwbon, which coels me 80 dear. 

"Aye, aye 1" said the stranger, "I see thatth* 
eharixm you use is made of wood, and that it 
must coat a good deal by the time it b conveyed 
to you from the adjoining forests." 

"I assure you," observed the blacksmith, "that 
the utmost I csn posfdbly gain is barely suffident 
to buy food for myself and my family," 

"But,'' replied the old man, "if you could hare 
a Epedes of charbon which would cost you nothiDg 
more than the trouble of digging a little depth 
into tbe earth for it, where it lies hidden,_ and 
when you could have as much of it as you wished 
for, would you be very happy P " 

" Would' I be very happy ? All ! " agbed th«r 
blacksmith, as he gazed at the stranger, and en- 
deavoured to make a gueas at the meaning of the- 
words addressed to him. 

" Well, then," continued the venerable slranger, 
" listennowattentivelT towhat lam saying. You 
know the Mont-des- Moines that lies cloee bjtMs 
place, as you must have often passed by it. Have 
you never remarked, if yon did so, a sort of black 
earth that ia in some places mixed up with the 
ordinary soil P Go there; take that black earth, 
pat it in the fire, and, take my word for it, you 
will never agun have to buy an ounce of eharbim 
of wood." 

The blacksmith stared with tmaiemeot, and at 
first thought the oM slranger wais liilliiw vitii ^ 


[i-^s. vn. ja-v. 7,'7i. 

him ; but that thought raniahed as he looked at the 
Irindly face of the good old man, bidding him 
" good b;e " as he disappeared. The smith's con- 
fidence returned ; he put on hia coat at once (for 
the honest men of. Liege never take long to de- 
liberate on anything), aad the game instant he 
tan off to the Uont-dea- Moines. Upon examining 
the soil, he there perceived what he had before 
Derer paid anj attention to, that there were 
tracks, and what appeared to be xeins of earth 
that was black and friable. He filled his apron 
with this earth, and returned home satisfied. His 
confidence in the words of the venerable stranger 
was fullj realised; for scarcely had he cast a 
handful of hia black earth intJi the brasier than 
it began to bum up and sparkle brilliantly. 

He had made a n'and discorery I He had found 
out coal I He had hit up<in the chorbon de tern '. ! 

Transported with delight, he ran to tell his 
neighbours of what had occurred to him. The 
neighbours in their turn, being fullj convinced of 
the Talue of the discovery, repaired to Mont-des- 
Moinea — which they also called' Moitt-FubUc, 
because it had been waste commoi^-luid, and every 
one that liked had a right to repair to it — and 
there, with the hlack earth, they perceived stones 
of the same colour, which were found to make 
excellent fuel. 

It may easily be guessed what a reputation the 
discovery of this vsluahle mine won for the poor 
blacksmith in hia natal city. His name was 
HotMoz, and from bis name was afterwards called 
that species of coal that is known as hoatUe (pit- 

The extraction of pit-cnal {hoailk) became, in 
course of time, the aourceof great riches to Uege; 
but then as t« the good old man who had re- 
vealed the source of those riches, Houlloi and 
bis companions in vain sought after him from a 
desire to testify their gratitude) but no one wm 
ever able to gain any intelligence respecting 

~VVho then was this old manP From whence 
came he F How was be master of a lecret which 
was concealed from the inhabitants of the country P 
H Snuveniri de ia vilie de Liege, c. iv., from which 
this legend is translaled) "on this subject con- 
sulted ancient aut'iois. The oldest work refer- 
ring to it is an antique manuscript, vety aadly 
deteriorated. This manusciipt, having recounl^d 
in detail the preceding history, adds : " That there 
cannot be any doubt as to the mysterious per* 
aonage introduced into it, and thu, beyond the 
slightest question, he was an any . , ." The last 
letters have been obliterated by envious time. 
Could the manuscript have intended to affirm 
that the author of the discovery was an nn^l 
(angelus) ? or, might it not have been an Anffli- 
c«n— an Englishmaa {Anglui)? for the use of 

coal (eharhon de terrc) was well known in the 
twelfth century in England. 

W. B. Mao Cabk, 
UaaconCour-de-Bietigne, CSMa du :Har<], Franc*. 


That this celebrated wit and eminent phy- 
sician, upon whom the mantle of the eq^uaUy 
clever and skilful Dr. i'itc.iim bad fallen, was > 
cadet of the noble family of Arbutlmot, is, we 
believe, undoubted, although there is some diffi- 
culty in putting together the necessary links of 
his pedigree. His father was the episcopal clergy- 
man of Arbuthnot, where hia sou is asserted to 
have been born shortly after the Reitoratiou. 

In the Library of the Faculty of 'Advocates 
there is a MS. which ia thus titled: "A Con- 
tinuation of the Genealogie of the noble Family 
of Arbuthnot, by Mr. Alexander Arbuthnot, some- 
time Minister at the Kirk of Arbutbnott." This 
person was the father of Dr. John Arbuthnot, 
who, not choosing to adopt the Presbyterian sys- 
tem of worship, preferred lelinquishins his church 
and retiring to an estate, represented by Cham- 
bers ' to have been- but a *' small " one, which 
he bad inherited, and where, it may be reasonably 

concluding portion of an account of the Arbuth- 
not family which had never been printed, but 
which inay be amongst the muniments of the . 
Viscount of Arbuthnot. Its existence was un- 
known to Dr. Irving, who has given a sketch 
of the life of the alleged writer in his lAvet of 
Scotith Poett, and to Dr. Robert Chambers, whose 
brief notice of Principal Arbuthnot, the author, is 
derived from Irvine and M'Crie. 

On the back of tbe title of the CcmtiiiuAtiou is 
the following memorandum ; — 

" For connecting Principal Arbothnott'a latin Gene- 
alogy wilh the following conlin nation, 'tia to be noliced 
IhslJsmeSiWliDKucceeded Robert the second .miiriedJenn 
Stosrt, A thole's danghtfr, by tchom lie hstl Vkb wns and 
one daughter. His eldest ann ws9 fioberl (he third ; [ho 
■econd, cslkd David, Parson of Mammure, was killed at 
Pinkie. Hi> danghter's name was l«n>bel, nho <ria mar- 
ried first to Ochtorlon; nf KelLy, and afterwards to 
Meari ofPanmnre. This Jamea gotthe holding of ward, 
changed to blench. He was removed bv immalure dealb, 
in the Sower of his Bge, in the year 1S21, and to him 
anccMded Robert his son. the third of that came, SO 
ealled after his grandfather." 

re^tted, as the author waa a man of admitted 
ability, and an elegant writer in Latin, botii of 
prose and verse. He died "at Aberdeen c '' 

* IAvaofEmiiie»i}ScQldiwm,' 


4* S. VII. Jas. T, 


tenth of October, 1583, before he tad completed 
the a^ of toitj-&r«." A favouiable picture of 
him is given bj Archbishop Spottiswood, who 

lemarkB : — 

■■ He WW greatlv loved of all men, hated of none, > 
Id nich ucoant Ibr liia moderation irith the chief a 
of Ihcae paita, that iritbant hia advice they could 
DOthiag; whicli put him in a great fashrie whereof he i 
oft complain. Pleasant »nd jocund in conversation, a 
In all gcionn oxpsrt, a good poet, mathematician, philo- 
aopfair, theotogiiui, lawyer, and in mcdioliie ekiJflil ; no 
M OB ev«ryanb}ect hooonld proinpll; diicourw, aod to 
good pnrpoM." 

It is believed that the PtiDcipal waa the graad- 
father of Alexander, the clergyman of Arbuthnot, 
ud thus great-gTaodrathet la the friend of Swift 
and Pope. The conjecture may be erroneous, but 

An ISEDITBD Eleot by Oliteb Goldsihth. 
Struggling the other dej through a quantity of 
old papers, I lighted on poor Qoldy's panegyric of 
hie warm-hearted patron, the amiahle and intel- 
ligent Quaker, Joseph Feon Sleigh (Foote's 
« Doctor Sligo"), " the schoolfellow of Burke at 
Ballitore, the first friend of Barry the painter, who 
died prematurely in 1771, an eminent physician 
at Cork." (Prior's loft of GotftmiU, i. 148-9.) 

The doctor, who was of Derbyshire descent, died 
DO ThuMday, May 10, 1770, aged thirty-seven (a 
life how short for bis sorrowing ftieods !}, leaving 
behind him an idiotic sister and a large fortune — 
the latter (as too many|hnow to their bitter ooat) a 
DSTer-ending gnbjeet of litigation ; but to which, 
if every one bad hia due, we believe a certain 
leamed serjaant bos, or ought to have, a prior 

"It werefn »ain to expatiate on virtues univsnslly 
known, or emblaion that merit which every heart eon- 
tbaa; were even Fancy to be Indnlged, it lould not 
osap^eralB the reality ; hot Fancy can hera And no 
breast (nffidently vacant for Ita adraiulon— on tha hearts 
of all who knew him ; on the wretiA whom he relieved— 
oftbe Panmtwhom he Bolaeedi of the f Hend whom bo 

"Undoabied griefl no grief excessive call, 
Nor atop the tean whii:Ii now in torrents fhll. 
Dear Sleigb's no more ! the man whom all admired, 
The man whoK breast each social virtae Bred, 
Is now no more ! In Doalh'a cold slerp he lies ; 
A caase loSieient fur onr ftiendl.v slKhi. 
Conld Leamine, Goodneai. ChariU" ineare, 
Coold Worth and (Janios, Wit and Truth aecure 
Oar darliiy; SUich— then Love sincere might save 
The best of men from an antlmely grave ! 
Cease mv ssd heart, nor Iniure by joar lays 
The worthy man yon fainllv strive to praise ! 
View every face— behold the rich and pooI^— 
With dowQcaat eyes fegret that Sleigh's no more ! 
" OuvEB noLDBHrm, 

"RoBCommon, Ireland." 

MooBLABD Lad. 

D1SCRSPAITCTB8 IN Dates. — Amongst ancient 
charters and indentures such errors are by no 
means uncommon, and might lead an inexperi- 
enced nrchKologist to pronounce the documents 
to which they occur spurious, whereas these very 
errors sometimes nflbrdeven corroborative evidence 
of authenticity. A note on this subject would, 
I believe, be valued by the' public The author 
of a paper on " Ancaent Sbemf Seals," published 
a few years ago in the Herald and Gmaiuogitt, has 
had a very extensire'ezperience in this, branch of 
archieology, and might be induced on seeing this 
reference to bis qualificatiotts to contribute a 
reply. There are probably many other arcbieolo- 
gists equally qualified to give an opinion (sup- 
ported by evidence) on this subject, out as I do 
not happen to know them as thus spemally 
qualified, I have alluded to him whom I do know 
as having directed his attention to the gneetion. 


The late Sib SiiruEL O'Mallet, Bart.— In 
a cutting from the Mayo Coastitulum newspaper 
published in August, 1864, 1 find it stated that 
this centleman, who died on the 17th of that 
month, had begn for the long period of mxtg-three 

Sara a magistrate and grand juror of the eo. 
ayo, and that during the whole of that period 
no oot of his as a magiBtrate ever met the censure 
of tha superior tribunals or the government of the 
country. This it, I think, worth putting on 
record in the pages of "N. & Q." Y. S. M. 

Shropshieb SAYiHoa— An old lady, who waa 
the daughter of a Salopian farmer, and who died 
not long since at the age of seventy-eight, waa 
accustomed to make use of the following savings, 
which had been current in her early days in her 
native county. Some of them are curious, and 
may be found interesting : — 

''Choke chicken, more hatching." A variation 
of the proverb, that " As good fish remain in the 
""" as ever came out of it. 

Noble as the race of Shenkia and line of 
Harry Tudor." 

" He smiles like a basket of chips " ; i. e. of 
habit and unconsciously. 

"Useful as a shin of beef, which has a bigbwie 
for the big dog, a little bone for the little dog, 
and a sinew for the eat." 

It's all on one side like Bridgnorth election." 
Ahem I aa Dick Smith said when he swal- 
lowed the disbclont," signifying that troubles 
should be borne with fortitude. 

" All friends round the wrekin." 

Wji. Underhill. 

'EIKHN BAZiAiKH'. — Ott the fly-leaf of a well- 
bound and ill-thumbed copy in my possession of 
the third edition oi A Vmdicatiim g K. Charlei ^^ 
the Martyr (Loudon: piinled for E. Wilkin, at the 


[4«*S.TI1. Jam.I.TI. 

Ein^s Head in St, Paul's Church Yard, 1711), 
proTiQg that His Majeatj wu the author of this 
&ercelj-coiit«8ted work, are these MS. notes, 
with the autographs of theit respoclire attos- 
tow: — 

" WiDchibu, Aug. y 13, 1732. 
"I doe ■flrm thit in the year 1688, M" HoEnpeesoD 
(wife to Tbomu Mompeuon, Esq. ofBrnbam, in Somer- 

bohijceruln knovledge tba'lilKnNBAZIAIKH' waioU 
compoi'd and written bv KinfcCharlea j' Brat. 

"AKbongblD the fullowiog Book the King's Book la 
thoronghly Vtodicated, snd proved to be of hia MajcetieH 
Compoaing, I wu nilUng to add this Circumituice from 
H" MompesiOD, with Hhom and her Unsband mj Wift 
■cd I at that time ■ojoura'd. " Wutchclsea. 

"Tbe Author of the rellowing Tracts iru the R> Rev- 
erend H' WagataSiB, vtbo oaa caiueerat«d a Biihop by 
tbe Rt. Eeyereod the Deprived Bpa. of Norwich, £17 & 
PeterbtUEh, & the R< Rev'd George Bickeo, Suffrenn 
Biabop oT Thetford. Tbe Rt. Honorable Heniy Earl of 
Clarendon being » Witness thereto. 

" Chaplain to I.'' Winchebek." 
JoHir Slsiqil 
Thombridg^ BakewelL 

ATBBjteE OF HmtAR Litb. — I. am rector of a 
■couatr; pariah, the populatiou of which, at the 
last census, was 404, the males and females being 
exactly equal in number. In the ten succeeding 
years there have been sixtj-eight deaths, of which 
thirty-six have been those of fsmeJes. The 
general aversge of age has been fortj-nine years; 
the ayerage of males a fraction over forty-nine 
years; that of the females, therefore, a firaction 
under that age. Ten of the entire number have 
lived to over eighty years, of whom eight were 
females, one of these latter being ninety-two 
when uie died. I do not know how these num- 
"bera will bear compirison with those of other 
parishes, but one thingstrikes me in looking them 
over — while the average length of life is a little 
in favour of the males, the females show a larger 
number attaining to extreme old age. 

W. M. H. C. 
Fberch War Soires.— In 7R« SUmdard of 
Sec. 20 is " The Christmas of a German Soldier." 
Friti, in a letter to Gretcheo, describes " the 
eituadon " and his hopes, and gives snatches of a 
song which he hears the French singing on the 
opposite bank of the Mame : — 

"These vordi the? put into King Wtlliam'a moatb :— 
"■ Qui soatiendrale choc dee miens? De roe valiaes 
Qui aondera la nrorondeur? 
Ton Tann, liiroa pillard, Verder, briUenr d'^lisea, 
£t Treacou, geadaime Iroiidciir, 

X Cea Francs, GU de Baal, n'ont-ila paa Vinipudence 
De combattre en pleine clartd 
Houa, Seignenr, que to fia serpents par la pnidcnce 
Et lonpa par ia tinKiti ? 

>■ Ta jDstioe, o Sdgnear, eat comme 1 
Lenle, mala iQre d'aniver. 
La mieiinea prisaoo tempa; ma ra 
Uit cinqaante ana k la conv«r. 

"Oni, depals I£na, ie n'ai pn euu sotiffrance 

" Biimarek a dea eonaeils loyaoz but tontea choaes ; 
11 me sooffla ravis divla 
D'envover mes enfiuits,cliiena conchanta, dooz etroieii 
Hendier an paja do vin. 

" Comment se d^Aer de oea soQples carrarea ? 
Tont foTer lear Tut ladnigenl,' 
Mea ch^niblaa out pris rempreinta dei aemires t 

'A moi la eav«^ k moi rai^ient." 
I cannot learn more about the song, but I think 
if the whole can be found it is qiute as worthy of 
preservation in " N. & Q." as any war song yet 
inserted. tt n ^ 

U. U. Qob. 

MoBT Cmns Titsnel. — The following, from 

• " ■■ " ofDec. 2r ■ ■' — - 

\. & Q." :- 

« Bardoniebe, Dec. !S, 4.15 P,u. 

" The Isat diaphraam baa jost been bored exactly in 
the middle oT the Hont Cenis Tannel, amid repeated 
shoats ftom one aide to tbe other of 'Long live Itiljl' 

" Tbe greatest engineering work of tbe great ceatitiy 
of engineering has at last been accomplished. The Mont 
Cenis Tannel is perhaps a mora wonderful trinmph of 
genioa and penevBranco than the Atlantic Telegraph or 
tbe Snei CanaL It* length is seven milea and three- 
fiftita, it is twenty-aix feet and ■ qnarter in width, acd nine- 
teen fKt eight JDches in beIgh^ and wilt carry a donble 
line of rails trom France, under (be Alp^ to Italy. The 
tunnel, which is of comae nnflniahed as yet, baa been cut 
by atmoapheric machineiy through tbe solid rock, schist, 
limestone, and qnartz, tbe air which moved the chisels 
cseaplDg from i(a compression to anpply the lungs of. the 
workmen. The work baa Iwen filWen years in prognaa, 
without reckoning the time apent in preliminary Invea- 
tigationa ; it has been carried on contlauonaly from 18S1 
m now. Tbe railway up the Sion valley will now, 
before long, carry ila paisengera straight through from 
Foumeaai to Bardontche, and it will be possible to go 
from Paris to Milan without climbing an Alpine pass, or 
even changing tbe railway carriaEe. So far as railway 
transit is oonceraed, there are therEfoie no more Aips. 
The grest mountain choin has been Anally removed. 
This immense work has Ijeen carried out under vast diffl- 
cnltlea. There could be no ahafls as in the short tunnels 
wblcb pierce onr tittle English hills, and ail ibe dibrit 
had to be carried back to the entrance. It waa begun at 
both ends, and the workmen who thug etarted seven 
milea apart, with a mountain chain between them, have 
met as aeenrately as though there had been but a hill to 
pierce. As a trinmph of engineering afcill, we must 

a by Google 

of ita pabUcatioD, Ac. The illiutnUona (probaUy 
eut in the sixteenth centur;) ue Sj inches by 
H inches, set in a framework having figures at 
tbe Bide with deTices and such like mt top and 
bottooL Under the illustration are five or ax 
lines in Gennim eiplanatory of the aubjeet, -while 
■bore it are the referencea to the book and chap- 
ter. Probably the framework may have served 
foe lome other religioos publication ; there are 

Cdbhish spoken in Detonshire. — Cnn joa 
tell me where to find a Btatement that I have 
read somewhere, that the Carniah, or at least a 
British, dialect was sdll spoken in Devonahire 
after the Norman conquest, and whether there ia 
any authority for it P There ia reneen to beUeve 
that in Aaser'a time it was used in Somersetabire 
also; for he gives us the British name of the 


[4'1'S.VII. Jas.T.TI. 

forest called Sfllwood. Thia was about the end 
of the ninth century. B. C. A. P. 

Thb DRAMJf. — What is the earliest delioea- 
tiOD of the dragon, ftnd had it two or four lees P 

EiSTERS SiOBT. — At the end of the thirtj[- 

eighth chapter of Great Expectations alluaion is 

made to the Eastern story of a heavy slab that 

was to foil on a bed of state. Where is the story P 


Sm Ohakles Eoebton, Kniqht. — Wanted, 
infoTDiBUon on this '' knight " (probably a foreign 
honour), who tras living in 1651. Henry Yaughan, 
the Silurist, dedicated two volumes to hioi. I 
have searched in vain in many quartets, and 
others for me, with equal unsuccesa. Required 
immediitiely, and therefore answers ^11 please be 
addreeeed to Rbt. A. B. Obosart, St Qeorge's, 
Biackbum, Lancashire. 

EanivALESTT FoitEioN Titles. — By what court 
can foreign titles ueed in England be tested F So 
far as I can undorstend, an English armiger ranks 
-with a foreign noble, while English peers are de 
facto more than a match for mere titular princes, 
Those claims caunot be referred to a committee 
of privileges, and who are therefore only to be 
taken for whet they may be worth in each one's 
Opinion. It does seem wrong, however, that le^ 
applied to our own nobles and gentry should be 
waived in the case of strangers. At this rate 
many noblemen and untitled gentry have equal 

Getensiona to royal deecentfrom Saxon and Welsh 
nga and princes, bnt how absurd were Lord 
Howden to style himself U.H.H. Prince Caradoc. 
T— K. 


I have a very badly printed and faulty copy of 
this little booic. Will soma one oblige me with 
the words pveii below P The lines count from 
the top of the page. 

Page 16. Two fii-st wnMs oflines 4. B, 14, IT, 18. 

Psge 29. The whole of lines S3, 2-1. 

Page 47. Tiro flrat irorda of lines 21-24 inclueive. 

Page 70. Two last words of iinu 23, 24. 

Pago Bi The wbulo of line 2. 


LzTTBB OP Galileo. — In a book, called The 
Private Life of Oiiliho, published by MacmiUan 
and Co., 1B70, the author's name not attached, 
there is given in n note (p. 74) a Terr romnrkablo 
letter of Oalileo to Father Benedetto Csatelli, Pro- 
fessor of Slathetnatics at Pisa, 1013, on the inter- 
pretation of Scripture. The reference not being 
given, I should feel greatly obliged to any of yonr 
readers if they could give me the authority, and 
usnre me of the authentidty of the letter. 

M. M. 

Heraldic. — 1. Supposing a woman, not on 
heiress^ to morrv and to become a widow, and then 
to marry agam, what arms should her steond 
husband impale P Those of her father, or those 
of her first husband P 

S. If a man who, though in the position of a 
gentleman, is not legally entitled to any armorial 
bearings should marry an heiress, can the issue of i 

this marriage bear the mother'* anna in any way — . 

I. a, nrnply, or with some difference P 

W.M.H. C. ! 

Hbrbert of Muckecss. — Mr, Henry Arthur 
Herbert of Muckruss married on OcL 28, 1781, , 
Eliiabeth, second daughter of Viscount Sackville. 
Did this ladv, who was born July 4, 1762, pre- i 

decease her husband P What are the dates of 
Iheir respective deaths ? H. 0. M. 

HoBBEI Keck.— Can any of your readers in- 
form me whether there ia any portrait in exist- 
ence of Mr. Robert Keck, who purchased the 
portrait of Shakespeare (afterwards known as the 
Chandoa portrwt) of Mrs. Bfury the actress P I 
believe I haTe a portrait of this gentlemwi, which 
came from Minchenden House, Soutbgate, but 
cannot identify it for certain unless by comparison 
with an undisputed picture of Mr. Keck. 

Leek-Wotton, Warwick. 

Laird.— Can a " porlioner" of land be pro- 
perly styled " Laird," as 1 see Mr. Rogers, in his 
accoimt of the Roger family, portionert of Coupar 
Grange (4'* S. vi. 482), treats the designations as 
synonymous P The poeseasion of an entire barony 
in fee-simple appears to me to be necesairy to 
constitute a landed proprietor a laird. If every 
" portioner," i. e. every proprietor of one or more 
portioni of a parish or barony, be a laird, that title 
has lost its meaning — laird or lord = baron, one 
who, originally at least, held a barony directly 
from the crown. C. S. K. 

St. Peter's Square, Ilamnictsmltb, W, 

Pbdisbeb op Mortiues. — Sir Edmund de 
Mortimer, of Wigmore, mortally wounded at the 
battle of Bullth, 1303, married Margaret, daugh- 
ter of Sir William de Fenolles, and a kinswoman 
of Queen Eleanor. How was this Minaret 
related to the good queen P W. M. HT C. 

PooL-s, OR MotTTHs OF Stbkajib.— The cieeka 
or mouths of streams opening into the Mersey, at 
least as high as the tide flows, are desia^Ukted 
" Pools," and I shall be glad to know wnether 
this is a local peculiarity, or prevails in other 
rivers. On the south bank of the Mersey we hava 
Wallasey Pool, Birket or Tranmere Pool, Brom- 
boro' Pool, Nether and Over Pool, Stanlaw Pool, 
Boat-hnuso Pool at Runcorn, and Wilder's Pool 
near Warrington. Then on its north bank we 
have Pool Mouth, or Freeh Fool, alao Rear War* 

**g.VlI. Jas. 7, '71.] 


aogttm ; Lady Pool At Hal«, Qarston Fool, Ot- 
ter's Pool, aud lastly, LirerpooL M. D. 
PitivATELY-rRiNTED BooKa. — What la the 

etrliest instdnee of a book bearing on its title- 
rage that it ia "privately printed" or "printed 
for private circulation"? Ami correct m sup- 
posing that there is no example of such an an- 
DouDccment previous to 17S0, if as early P 

F. M. S. 

[The earliest priTately-printed book mentioned by 
Hirtjn in bis BiblnirafAlral CaMoi/ae, p. 3, is De AnIi- 
imilatt Brilamica 'Eteltiut el Pritilrgili A'cdeaia Qin- 
UaritnrU, cun ArchUpiieopit eJHidem "0. [ACtriliutcd 
loMatthcw Parker. ArchUiiJuipofOnterburrO K^cu- 
nm I.on3ini in lodibiu JolutDnis Dall. Ix>nd. lG7i, rol. 
See Buhn's Lnimdn, p. 1776 ; O.botiie's Harltlaa Cata- 
kpu. iii. 3 ; aod Jones's Popery Tracli, ii. 6B2, Chetham 

Tub Prhtt of " Grioo's Aceobi."— Can any 
of your readers inform me who is the author of 
the lines which appear at the bottom of the well- 
kaown print of "Guido's Aurora." I have in- 
quired in viun of anyone whom 1 know; nnd tbe 
subject ia so celebrated, and tho lines tboniselves 
are so accurately descriptive of it, and so pouiical, 
that I venture to think that an answer lo my 
query may gratify others beaide myself. It is a 
question of some interest, whether the lines were 
written for the picture, or tho pioturo was com- 
posed afier the Imea: — 

•• Qmdrijuab ijirectna eqnis Sol aureus enit, 

Lacirer anlevoUt : nipidi fu;^ lampndi soU^, 
Aonm, nnbraram victrix, ne vicu recedas." 
I quote the lines from mentoiT. 

'S\u. RoBHtso:?. 
The PKoscsaiTiow of Geeek akd Latin. 
Will !omo of the ripe scholars who write iu 
*'N. & Q." settle this matter for US? SlcUiktl and 
O kiKes ■' Bo:iaA rather awful; and must we really 
accept Kikero? Mr. Blakiston of Rugby, writing 
to the ObAe, asserts that the Latin ii" was always 
equivalent to our to, or ao" ; so that viimm was 
pronounced " weenura," aud tin " weea." Another 
corresaoniient asks how we would pronounce 
"TivioA vis animi," or the following well-known 

■■ Sea pntrifc validas iu viscera vettite vires." 
ITruIn would clearly become " Oui oui-dal " A 
great number of those who lore tbe I^atin writers 
without prctpnding to ecbolarsbip would he thank- 
ful fur an autboritatire guidonce in this matter. 
Yox SATiaiti's "Tkbahsb on Oblioatioms." 
It there »ny Kngliab translataoti of tbis work P 
Wbeve could I find an aaalreis " " '"~ ''— 

Wab Medals. — Tbe late Lord Hotham had a 
imm medal with fmu- daapa. Covld anyone hare 

a medal with fmirleea clasps P Or what is the 
greatest number of clasps tuat anyone could be 
entitled to p DoK, 

Wetxfhiina.— "Who was WulfrunaP Three of 
your correspondents (4"* S. vi. 630) name her aa 
the sister of three different Saxon kings, and give 
two dates, tweuty-sii years apart, for the founda- 
tion of her monastery, Wulfruna, wife of Earl 
Aldbelm, must have been Ed|;ar's sister, if ber 
foundation were in 970; for liad she been the 
sister of Etbelred II., ber age ia that year would 
have been six years at the utmost. She appears 
to have been the only daughter of Edmund L and 
Elgiva, and the sister of Edwy and Edgar. The 
Mster of Egbert would in 990 hare attained the 
venerable age of 200 years. IlGitME-iiiiiTDE. 

YoBESniRF. Prater-book.— A friend of mine 
has an old will, in which occurs the passage : — 

"I leave tlie Slim of sixpence to .to biiyaTort- 

sbire Prayer-book, tlierewilh to quiet bis conscience, if 
Indeed be have anv eonacjencc." 

What was the Yorkshire Prayer-boot? In 
Lowndes' Biblioyt-apher't Manual I tind : — 

'■ Rook of Common Pmypr, Sbeffi d-l, 17G,>, Jlo, itilli 
an Expoution, being a Tew foot-notes to evade the In*." 

Is this the Prayer-book referred to, and haa it 
any further peculiarities ? M. D, 


H"- S. ii. 313, 301, 3rfo, 421, 4-17.) 

This interesting subject baving been revired in 
connection with ray name in tlie Art Jtmi'nal of 
November, and in the BviUler of the 19tb ult., I 
venture to resume it after a lapse of two years, 
during which it has been inipos^ble I could 
attend to it with thatcaie its importance demands 
If however, by your indulgence, I am now per-. 
mitted to continue it in " N. & Q.," I shall be 
prepared te do so as long as may be necessary for 
a complete elucidation of the numerous ijuestiona 
which yet remain to be solved. 

One of the most miachievoua features connected 
with the " History of Early I'jinting and En- 
pnving " haa been the system adopted by authors 
of indulgiujf in " general possiUlilies," and after- 
wards dealing with them as " admitted truths." 
The estant to which tbis pernicious practice has 
been carried is indeed almost inconceivable. An 
instance of it may be readily found in Mr. H. 
Noel Humphrey's work enUtled A Hutonj of the 
Art of Piwtinff. London, 1806: where, in pp. 
30, 81, the following crowd of imnginery theories 

"It is highly]'prohable " — "which may be 
fairly attributed to" — "It is more than ^to-\ ^ 
bable" — "There is yet some teaaon to sus-IL 



[■("■S-VII. JiS.7,7 

pose" — "It ia eyident from" — "which bad' 

probably for" — "which could onlv be obtained 
by" — "we may preaume" — " Those last may 
however" — "which latter were possibly" — 
"appears highly probable" — "It is therefore 

Eiflible " — " may have been brought " — " The 
owledge may bare spread " — " mav however 
have been" — "may have been tumea" — "may 
posaibly hafe never been," &c,, &c 

Aa flie result of these " posaibilitles," Bevetal 
startling but positive statements appear in the 
some two pages, unqualified by. doubt of any kind, 
and authoritatively announced es/ocbto be relied 
on, and to be accepted aa such by the reader. 

" EDgraviDK on wood bad howevgr been nied in 
Enrope, in a crude form, long htfare tlte time of the 

■• It ii knaten that inUfiei of saiots were produced by 
timilar meam ai earl/ as tbe ninth ceotui/." 

"The art of printing patterns on slufis, b/ means of 
enfir^ved tablet! of wood or metal, wai in uss in Europe 
in the twelfth century." 

These declarationi only eqnal in boldness that 
of MOKH. J. Ph. BBEJEiir (in " N. & Q.," Oct. 31, 
1668, p. 431), who therein affirmed that " f/<oM- 
»a«ii of such im^es of saiota [viz., like the " St. 
Chriitophfr" called of " 1423"] were pritOtd before 
the invention of typoCTaphy, and diitribiittd for 
ciuA at the doori of the comienti" — an asserlioOj 
I venture to state, as reckless and unfounded aa 
ever escaped the pen of the most careless writer. 

Being an utter disbeliever in any theories 
which need so many flights of fancy to maintain 
them, I at once declare mv preference for the 
region of " Fact/' and therefore call upon Messrs. 
H. Noel Humphreys and J. Ph. Beijeau for the 
authorities on which their surmises are haiarded. 
If they are forthcomingj well and good ; their 
true value can then be properly estimated; but, 
in any other event, the interest of art demands 
they should be swept away as niischievoua " Will 
o' the Wisps" — mere decovs — to mislead the 
unwary. Notwithstanding tne credit deservedly 
attached to the well-known name of " Weigel of 
Leipsig," as one of the "oracles" in connection 
with " Early Engraving and the Block Books," 
I venture, at the risk of being roundly abused for 
W.J temerity, to positively deny the power of 
lb. Weigel to produce a smgle engraving of the 
twelfth century, to which period he attnbutes a 
portion of his collection, and I invite him to do 
80. The truth is (unpalatable as it maybe) that 
all the professors of sylographic art have pet" 
mitted themselves to be thoroughly deceivea by 
the so-called " St ChrUtopber of 1423," now ii 
liord Spencer's collection ; and, mi^ed by Hei. 
neckena folly, have blindly wandered into a 
ibyrinth of difficulties from which theycannot 

'W escape. From Heinecken (1771) toH. Noel 

Humphreys (1868), " 1423 " has been treated by 
one and all as the true date of " the St.Christopher/' 
and they liave accordiugly eagerly seized upon 
and adopt«d it as their sheet-anchor — the foun- 
daUon stone of their building — the compasi 
by which all their theories have been guided, 
and their "dreams" attempted to be juslis^: 
whereas my showing in September IStiS that 
the date "1423" was not that of the engraeiag, 
but, vrith the inscription, had direct and ezduiive 
reference to the " Legend of St Christopher," 
whose jubilee year was "1423" (as shown by 
Mb. Tbous), added to the undeniable fact that 
the woodcut was printed with printing ink, an3 
produced by a printing press — altogether ex- 
ploded the deception, and, as a necessary conse- 
quence^ utterly destroyed at one fell swoop all 
the legion of unsound speculative theories founded 
on such universal beLef in the imaginary data 
saugned to tba engraving. It ia wholly useless 
for any one of those who have written on the 
subject to now attempt to deny that aU were 
thoroughly misled by the date on the " St 
Chiiatopher " I and such being the case, I find ia 
that simple but important fact (as wel! as in 
the circumstance that every jcritei- on " Early 
EngravioK and the Block Books " has altogether 
overlooked the labour of ten of the most sctiva 

jecting either of the theories heretofore propounded ' 
on the subject bf " Early Engraving and the Block 
Books," which are repugnant to common sense 
and antagonistic to truth; and I claim to Stand 
excused if, in fighting my preaitnt battle Mnglft- 
handed, 1 un hesitatingly declare the statement 
" of the Block Books being the production of the 
beginning of the fifteenth century " as thoroughly 
illusory and groundless as the supposed " SL 
Christopher of 1423," "the Brussels Virgin of 
1418," or "the Paris impostures of 1406." 

Uy remark applies equally to the statement 
made by the conceited Heinecken, the cridcal 
Ottley, uie volatile Dibdin, the plodding Jacket^ 
the ponderous Sotbeby, the enthusiastic Weigel, 
or to Messrs, H. Noel Humphreys and J. Ph. 
Berjeau, all of whom I maintain to be utterly 
wrong in every cardinal point of their theories, 
and I challenge literature to make good, by satis- 
factory proof, a single one among them. 

This broadcast defiance may primd facie ap^eax 
indiscreet, if not unjustifiable; but the propriety 
of it will, if my challenge be accepted, be fully 
justified by the eloctdation of a state of things at 
present but feebly imagined by the general public^ 
and a death-blow be dealt to illuuons which have 
hitherto sufficed to blind the senses, and mislead 
the intelligence of some of the most eminent men 
who havem&de " early printing and engraving" 

ta a Tit. Jax. 7, II.] 


their peculiar atudy. "False dates" — "wilful 
misstatsmeats " — " inventions " — " ignorsuce " — 
«nd the " wildest fligbta of imagiaation," have, 
io the course of time, been accepted as fact, imd 
bonndleas mischief has caDeequeDtl;^ arisen tucre- 
fnm. Many instSDcea of thia being SO might 
be readily adduced, but for the present one will 

What document connected with art literature 
can be cited to compare in interest to the Famiiy 
Diary of Albert Dmtrf the detflila of which are 
nnreeervedlj accepted throughout the civilised 
world with perfect good faith, as being the simple 
■nd truthful relation of tbo great artist himself; 
and jet, no more matdaciotu relation coo be found 
than that very Diary in the shape in which it has 
been permitted to reach the niaeteenth centuir. 
Author after author has so interpolated it — first m 
one langua^ and then in another, to suit his 
particular Tiews and strengthen his especial argu- 
ments — that its truth, as a guide to Duter'B real 
positiea in life, bss been utterly and wilfully per- 
Terted and lost sight of; and yet, to this moment, 
not ■ soul even imagines such a possibility. 
Knowing it to be so (and being at present encaged 
in preparing for publication the proof of wliat I 
now declare), I may well claim indulgence, if, 
disregarding all that bes been written or ima- 
ginea on the subject of the "Block Books and 
Early Printing and Eograring," I prefer to con- 
aalt dtred the sonroes whence every author on 
the subject must, or at all events ought to, have 
derived his information, and to express my own 
belief thereon, notwithstanding it moy be (Uame- 
trically opposed in almost every circumstance and 
del^ to any and every thing hitherto submitted 
to the public. 

No eader taik can possibly ho desired by my 
opponents (and their name is " Legion ") than to 
answer and crush my objections, if they have 
bat Uvih on their aide. Let them furnish the 
faeU upon which they lely to justify their avowed 
eonduaians, and I will then either promptly refute 
tiiem,or very thankfully admit mv defeat and their 
jnat claim tea Tietery, which will assuredly secure 
tham the grateful remembrance of posterity. 

IIbxbi F. Holt. 

King's Bead, CUpbsm Parte. 


(4"- S. Ti. 476.) 

The following books consist of parodies, or 

imitationa of modem authors, more or less in the 

style of those in the Sy'ected Addreuet : — 

" A Saiod to tbe E^ectrd Addrtittt ; or, the Thmtrnm 
PoManun Hinonim. Bv anolbfr Antbor." 4tli ed. with 
Addition*, mull Bro, London, 1813, pp. 100. 

*■ Poathnnioiu Parodies aod other Piece), oompOMd b; 
Mmal of oar most edelirated Poels, bat - -"*--■ 

in any former edition of their works." 8vo, Londnd, 
1811, pp. 102. 

[Attributed to Horace Twiss]. 

*■ Parodies on Gay. To whicb is arMad tbe BaItU of 
tba Busts: s FabJe attempted in tbeStyle of Hudibma." 
Small 8vo. Loadoo, n. d.. pp. 52. 

" Warreoiana 1 witb Not«>, Critics! and Eipisoatorj-. 
By tbe Editor of s Quarterly Keview." Small 8 vo, Lou- 
don, 1824, pp. 208. 

[A series of clever jtux d'aprlt in the manner of tbe 

Rcjtctal Addra 

n Fiedericic Dea- 

fonrd, who has prefixed a memoir of bim tu his tsle 
Amn^te. S voia. Svo, 1852. Mt. UeacoD wrote abo "The 
Sorroirs of a Baabfnl Irishman " in Blackaond'i Maga- 
zine, and a aerieaof papera entitled "The Picture Caller}-." 
lie died st Isliugton in 1S15, aged fort/.aix.] 

"Rejected Articles." Sro, London (Colburo), 1S2C, 
pp. 863. 

[These ckver imitations of Ella, Cobbett, Ward, Hoz- 
Iltc, Leigh Hunt, Ac, (re, onlike those I have already 
noted, entirely in proK.] 

" Scenes from the Rejected Comedies, by some of the 
Competitors for tbe Priie of 600i. offered bv Mr.B. Web- 
ster," &c. 8vo, London (PnntA Omtt), 1841, pp. 18. 

"Tbe Shilliag Booli of Beauty. "Edited and UlnBtrated 
by Cuthbert Bede, B.A." 8vo, Loudon (BlsckwoodJ, 
n. d, pp. 128. 

"The Puppet-Sbowman's Album. With Contribntlons 
by tbe most eminent Ijght and Heavy Writers of the 
Dsv. Ilioelrated by Gsvuni." 8vo, London, n. d., pp. 52. 

'■'Our Miscellany (which ought to hare Come oat, 
but I>i<ln't); eontsinina Conlribntions by W. HarassiDg 
Painaworth, Professor Strongfellow, G. P. R. Jacobus, 
&c, and other eminent Aothors." Edited by E. H. 
Yates and R. B. Brougb." Small 8iro, London, 1866, 

In addition to these Tolurhes, which contain 
parodies of varioiu authors, the following may be 
mentioned as being imitations of some otis author 
or book: — 

" Wbilehnll ; or, the Dava of George IT." Sro, Lon- 
don (W. Marsh), 1827, pp. '830. 

[Tiiis extroDTdinary and now scarce work was the pro- 
dnciion of the late W. Uaginn, LL.D. "The otriect," 
taya the Quarterly Rrtiea, " is to langb down tbe Uram- 
bletje House speciea of novel; and fbr this purpose we 
are presented with such an historical romance oa an au- 
thor of Brambietye House, flonrisbing in Barbadoes 200 
or 2000 years hence, we are not certain whicb, nor is the 
_- _, --ite^al moment, might fairly be ex- 

nanners, oi 
-e live 

. Tbe book is. In fact, a series of parodies 

the pondeR 

original."* My own opinion is aomewbat at variance 
with that of tha reviewer; bnttbaworli is a very cnrions 
one, and merits a place among cierer imitations. — Seetlie 
Dtbli* Uah. Slag., Jan. 1811, p. 86.] 

"Lejtiplianea, a Diaiogne imitated from Lncian, and 
suited to the present times. Being an attempt to restore 
the English tongni to ita ancient purity," Ac 8vo, Lon- 

[A well-known ImiUtion of tbe style of Dr. Johnson, 
by Archibald CampbelL] ■ ivv-iiv^ 


[4'kS.VII. JiN.7,71. 

"Tbe Whig's Supplication, or [he Scot's Hadibras. A 
Mock Poem. la Two Paita." Bj Samuel Colvit. 12ina, 
St. Andrews, 1796. 

•' The Laj of the Scottish Fiddle. A Poem. In FItb 

Ciutoj. Supposed to be written by W 3 , Esq." 

Small 8vo, London, 1814. 

[Tarionslf attribatedlo Wsshinicton Irving snd James 
Eirhe Pauldiug; tha latter attiHiulion probablj cor- 

" Jokebr, a Buriesque oa Roheby. A Poem. In Six 
Cantos. By an Amateur of Foauion." Sto, London, 

[By T. lege or John Eoby. See " N. A Q." paaim.} 

"Fragments, after the Manner of Sterne." By Isaac 
Brandon. I2nia. Printed f^r the Author. 

This list miKht bo grently extended, but ia 
eheady sufficiently lonfr. I must uot, bowerar, 
conclude witliout reminding W. Q. D of a few 
cl«Ter parodies buried Among- other matter. Such, 
for instooce, are : Pope'i " iDiitatious of Engliab 
Poets"; the -well-known "Pipe of Tobacco: in 
.-"-"iimtalion of Sii Several Authora," by Isaac 
Kawkiiis Browne (see his Pofmg laton VarioHs 
Subject«,8vo, 1708, or the CambnfiscTart,u. 176) ; 
the " Castle of Indolence," by James T! 

" writ in the m 

ir of Spe 

: the imitationa 

of the style of Milton, by Thomas Phillips; those 
of Milton and Spenser, by T. Warton ; and, finally, 
the "Curioua Fragments eitracted from a Com- 
mon Place Book, which belonged to Robert Bur- 
ton, the Famous Author of tie Analomy of 
Melancholy," by Charles Lamb ; cum rnuiUt aliii. 

Though this class of compoaition ia by no 
means scarce, very few coUectiona of parodies hare 
ftt any time appeared. I may mention Thackeray's 
- ' s of OW Friends icith S'eio Faces as fulfilling 

found a parody on " Wapping Old Stairs, 
which the usiuil ord«r of burleBque ia inverted, 
the ridiculous being raised to tbe heroic instead 
of the heroic being lowered to the ridiculous. I 
tun acquainted with no more pleasing parody than 
that on Soutbey'a ballad "You are old, Father 
William, the young man cried," to ba found in 
AUce't Adaenturei ia Wonderland, though it is 
not BO (fenerally known as the almost classical 
^ parody in Ingoldsby on tbe " Death of Sir John 
' Moore." In Hood's works will be found some 
half-score of them, mostly on songs and biUlads 
popular forty years ago, and consequently not very 
telling on tbe present ^neration. " We met, 
'twas in a crowd, and I thought he bad done 
me," is one 1 can at present call to mind. Al- 
though the number of parodies of reputation ia 
small, few works escape the ordeal of burlesque. 
Cmingsly bdMt Codling^, and Sokeby begat 
Jokeby. Tbe nymna of Br, Watts are made tbe 

vehicle of parody in a manner which would 
scarcely be admired by that dinna. Goethe's 
Faust has quite recently passed through several 

dramatic versions, in one of which, " There waa a 
king in Tliule," is rendered by " There waa s 
man in Tonley Street" I would suffgest that the 
Rejected Addremet are travestied imitations rather 
than parodies, as your correspondent has described 
them. jDi.iAir Shabmas. 

Sa, Easlboome Terrace, W. 

(4'« S. vi. 486.) 

Your correspondent Nephbitr gives an ex- 
tract relating to smoking tobacco from the " Blue 
Laws, or the Code of 1U50 of the Qeneral Court 
of Connecticut" 1 should feel much obliged 
if he could give eome information as to tlie 
document from which the quotation is made, 
and as to its authenticity. For many years these 
"Blue Laws" have been & byword for eaicnsm 
and satire at the expense of the stem old Pilgrim 
Fathers, who went forth to people tbe wilder- 
ness, tbe Bible in one hand and tbe sword in 
the otlier, and who were more conversant with 
the code of Aloses than with the practices of the 
beau mondt. We often aee quotations made, and no 
doubt there is something m existence purporting 
to be the code in question, but that there is any 
authentic document containing the absurdities so 
frequently ascribed to it 1 cannot admit until it 
is demonstrated by satisfactory evidence. I be- 
lieve it to be a literary imposture, to be classed 
with the Epistles of Phalans and the Chronicles 
of Ingulf. 

I have met with a passage in a work recently 
published,* which conlinns this view. The writer 
paid a visit to Dr. John Todd, the author of the 
well-known Student'i Manual — one of tbe oldest 
and moat respected clergymen in New England. 
Amongst other things, the following conversation 
took place : — 

" Sneaking of the old Puiitan s{riu-tne». and of the ' 
so-called lliue Laws of Coonecltcut, the Doctor aaii] : 
' 1 have been amused to see that some of your writers 
imagiue that tbrre really inirt »uch laws in New Knglsnd. 
The whole thing a an absilrd fiction, f;ot up by an 
English officer who lived for some lime in Connccticnt; 
but who disliked ao much its strict Sabbath observances 
that, when he went to New York, he drew up these pre- 
tended laws out of Bpita and passed them off for real 
enactments. It was not wonderful, perhaps, that people 
so'ignorsnt abouC us as the English wen shontd have 
been hoaxed iolo the belief that there had really been 
laws in Connecticut mailing it penal for a man to kiss 
his wife on Snndays, and ul that nonsense ; bat to find 
some of yonr living writers Mil] falling into an error go 

American Men, Manners, and Inslitations. By David 
Macra& S vols. Edinburgh : EdmonaCon t Doiudaa., % 
1870. ■ ™^C 

*<* a Tl!. Jan. 7, Tl.] 


pnpotleTmu, U very melancholy. Wliat would von tbiok 
oT-an Amcricin writing ibont England, uid qoatiDS 
'Jack utd the Bean Stalk' as an authentic historical 
work ? " 

If thin be correct, tlie " Blue Laws of Connec- 
ticut " belong to the same caieaaTj^ m Kniclier- 
bocker's Hitlory of Nevi York. I t&nk it is very 
desirable, for the sake of literaij and histaric&l 
truth, that this point should be cleared up_. Your 
corroapoudeot Nepheiie may aid in the inquiry, 
by stating from what Bourco he derired the quo- 
tation he has given. What is the imprint, and 
under vhat authori^ is it puhlishedr From 
what archives is it ^wdP Wliat is its date, 
and what names are attached? Where is the 
original document, and what stamp of autheo' 
ticitj does it bear? Auaweni to these (Queries 
would ud in clearing up a mystery, or in ex- 
poeinfi^ a hoax which has been anything but 
Wmleas. J. A, PicxoH. 

Stodfknowe, Wavertrep, near Lirerpool. 


(l'" 8. Ti. 602.) 
I am not aware of any book which mentions 
tbe cblircfaes of Carthago; norharo the churches 
in which the sermons of St. Auguetin were 
nreacfaed been generally given in any edition of 
his works. For probably the greater number of 
tbe localitiea were unknown, though several places 
where the holy Father preached are specitied in 
some editions of his works. The CoilKtio SeUda 
SS. Sceiemo! PUlntm (rariaia, 1830, et iWy.) con- 
tains St. AngustiD's works in full, and in this 
edition many of bis sermons have notices oF 
the ptacea where they were preached, and with 
•ome the dates are tiaa gUeo. Most of those 
enumerated by T. F. will be found in the follow- 
ing list tnken from the above edition. I °;ive its 
own enumeration, generally appending the old 
Dumbeiiog, as aliter ; — 

Serm. XLiS. al. 237 de temparc, in Matt. xx. de con- 
dnclis jD vlnea.— HaMtua nd mensam* S> Cj-priani in 
die Dam*. 

Serni. I,XXXVlII.<rf. I8deTOrb.D»m'. Prmchedat 
Carthage Wore bis biahop Aurflina. 

Semi. XC.o/. Hex edliiaflSirmoDdo Do verbis Evang. 
llatL ixiL de naptiis filii reRii. 

Babilns Carthagine in Restitata. 

Stun. CXI. Preached at Carthage : at its conclusion 
the saint girts notice that the next day will be the anni- 
*er»arj- of the ordination of his biabop — "domni scnis 

a. St. Aagnsllnblmsclftbus 

_ .— it noatiB, qniegmquB Cartha- 

^uem Dtutia, in oodem louo Dienaa Deo constnicts ut: 
et tamen menta dicitur Cipriani, r 
CjprtaDOi epidatiu. aed quia ibi 

tpaa inraioUlione ma paravit huiG meosam, nan in qua 
~««t aive pMcatar, aed in qua wcriGcJiim Deo, eui et 
a oUalin est. offeratur." — 5(rM. CCCX. el. 113 In 
U Cgprimi Xarij/rii IT. 

in quia ibi est nnquam 
St ImDioIatna, et quia 

AnreJii," and that the bishop deains the fidthfol to 
ble Ibst dar at the Baailica of Fsostos. 
Senn. CXII. De verbii Evangelii Locn xii,, ' 

if Cj-priani, pnesente comite 

die Dom*. 
8crin. CL. de verbis Act.'Apost. xviJ. 

HabltuB Carthagine. 
Serm. CLII. de verbis Apost. Rom. v£L at viU. 

Habltum Cartbaginc credimus. 
Serm. CLIV. de verbis Apwt. Rom. vii, 

Hsbitna ad mpnsam R Mart. Cyprianl. 
Serm. CLV. al. yS. de verbis Apost. Rom. viii. 

Ilabilus in Basilica SS. Mart". Sdllitanorum. 
Serm. CLTI. al. xiii. de verbis Apost. Rom. viil. 

Habitus In Basilica tiratiaui die nalali Mart". Boll- 

Serm. CLXIl'l. al lii. de verb. Apost. Gal. v. 

Habitns in Basilica Honoriana viii. Kal. Octob. 

Serm. CLXIV. al. xxii. da verb. Apost Gal. vi. Contra 

DonatisIa.s paalo post habitam Carthagine eaUationem 

Serm. CLXV. at vii. da verb. Apost. Ephes. iii. 

Habitus in Bailliea Majorum. 
Serm, CLXIX. al. xv. de verb. Apoat. Pbillp. ii!. 

Habitus ad menum »■ Ci-priani. 
Serm. CLXXIV. al. viii. de verb. AposL I Tim. 1. 

Ilaliitns in Basilica Celeiinie, die DomlDiea. 

.CCLV. De Alleluia. At some other place than . 

Hippo 1 perhaps at Carthaije, ni 
Serm. CCI.VIII. In dicbas P, 


Um oUadn 
AAdi O/pi 


Serm. CCLX. De monilia baptizatomm.^ 

In ecclesla Leentiana. 
acrm. CCLXr. In die Ascenaionis Dom'. 

Habitns Carthagine In Basilica Fausti. 
Serra.CCI.XlI. In die Ascent. 

HabitDS in Baiitica Leontinna. 
Serm. CCLXXTII. In bato S) Tiueentil U. 

In Basilica Restitute. 
Sum. CCXCIV. ai. xiv. innatall martyrU Gtiddeetia, 
Kal. Jnlii (anno 413, Flniy). 
Serm. CCCV. in soIeinnUate martvrls Laarentii IV. 

Habitus ad mcnaam S. CypriaDl. 
Serm. CCCXVIII. al. 25. Hnbitna in ipso die deposi- 
ionis Teliqniarum S. Stepbaul apud Hippoaem. 
Serm. CCCI.V. al. *S de diversis, at Hippo. 

Serm. CCCLVI. al. 5f) at Hippo. 

Semi.CCCLVlI. oL 85. De Unde pads, ante ixAlMt. 
nm Donatistls. 

Apud Carthaginem anno 411 drdtei 15 Mail. 
Serm. CCCLVill. ni. 36. De pace et cbarilatc. 

Serm. XVII, In solcmnitate Macchatnonim. 

Habitua Bulbe Regis, rogata episoopi dvltatis. 

Serm. XVIII. In natali Quadrati Maitjris. 

Treached not at Hippo, but suine place anknown. 

Sirvmui ex OMSce Cauinaui. 

Semi. V. Ad mciisnm B. Cypriani M. Sexto idns S . 

temhris, da ApcE^t. ad GalaL : " Fratrei si oceupati 

fnerit homo in aliquo deHcto, ele." 

F. C. W 



tJU 8. Til. Jam. 7 

A Wditkr SiTDie {4'» 3. vi. 496.) — Very 
Biinilu to this Mjins; in Nottinghutuhira la one 
vhich I heard the other dsj from a medical mBa 
inWestEent: " If before Chriatmas the ice will 
bear a goose, after Christmits it will not bear & 
duck." H.P.D. 

" Some people flattor tbeouelTea that becanM tb« ftott 
bu »t In tUi jear before Chiutmai Div, we ihall ha*a 
a mild winler atlei it ; but tbia theoi; u not in accord- 
ance vith pait experieDco. Some of oar moat serere 
fioita have began on the 2lat of December. ' In 1666,' 
ea;s Holiiuhed, ' the one-and-twentielb iMj of Dtc«mber 
began a fnnt which continued go extremely that on New 
Year's Etcd people went over and alongat the Tliamea on 
the ice from Londoa Bridf;* to WestminUer. Some 
played at botball *o boldly aa if it bad been on diy land. 
Uiven of the coast shot daily at the pricka act np on the 
Thamee, and the people, both rata and women, went on 
the Thames in greater nnmben than In any atreet of 
London. On the Slat day of Jaoiury, at night, it b^an 
to thaw, and Are daya afld was no ice to be aeeo between 
LondoD Bridge and Lambeth, which andden thaw ciuacd 
gnat floodi and high waien that bare down bridges and 
honaea and droYrned many people in England, espedallT 
in Yorkahire.' In 1683 a hard fniat set in early iu De- 
cember, and lasted till the 7tb of Febrniry. On tbia 
oceaiion, the Tbamea being frozen, there waa ■ nreet 
apon it from the Temple to Sonthwark, lined with shops, 
and haeknejr coacbM pU*d on the river. In 1762 a hard 
fToat eommeniscd on Christmas Day and lasted till the 
29th of Jannazy, and carriages were again aeen on the 
Thames ; and in the same year the Rhine was frozen Bt 
Coblenta for nearly foar weeks IVom the 2l3t of Decern^ 
ber. The great frost of the present century was the 
hmons one of I8tl, which lasted Beveral weeks and put 
eTeiybody to intense Inconvenience. To add to tbis dis- 
comfort, London was wrapped in an eitraoidinary fog 
for a week in tbe early part of January of that year, 
which, among otber misfortunes, caosed the Prince 
Re^^t to lose his wajwhea going to pay a visit to Lord 
Salisbury at HatSeld, and not to get iUrther than Ken- 
tish Town." 

BoBTO Caboli (4" S. Ti. 476, 633.)— "Cor 
CaroU " ia not a coMteltation, but a double atu 
mtuated in the coiutellation Canes VenaticL 


P«AB Tebb (4* S. Ti. 476.)— The wqiewhat 
rustio-looking tenemeut which stands od the right- 
hand side of the main road leading to Nazing, co. 

OF messuage (as I am infonned) is appended about 
fort; acres of land. This farm has moat probablj 
derived its name from a very old pear tree, the 
remains of vhich are now atanding on the gieen 
opposite. Bat why the singular additional title 
of the sacred name of " God Almighty " is nt- 
tacbed ^ it is beyond my knowledge to state, 
except that it might possibly have been con- 
nected with the ancient monastery of Waltham, 
either in pArt or whole, and so have been deemed 
sacred by the religious order of the Augustine 
brotherhood which bluff King Hall diswJVed in 

the thir^-first year of hia reign. The farm is in 
the hamlet of Holyfleld. W. WniTBBa. 

Walt&am Abbey. 

BisHT TO aTTARHEB Akks (4*^ S. vi. 476.)— In 
r^ly to W. IX. H. C, I would repeat a solution 
of^ his difficult given in a former number of 
"N. & Q.," though I am unable to refer to the 
exact p^e. 

Johu Smith's eldest son dies *. p. ; his second 
son succaeds, and leaves an only daughter ; that 
daughter is the heiress in Uood to her grand- 
father John Smith, and transmits his arms to her 
descendants. Aslongastheline of Aerdescendants 
remains, John Smith's daughters (her aunts) caji 
have no right to transmit the Smith arms to their 
issue. Their niece is the heiress through wbom 
the ri^ht must first descend, and whose Gne must 
be extinct before her aunts become co-heireases. 
E. W. 

Baboit NiCHOLSOir (i'^ S. rl 477.) — I quite 
agree with your editorial notg. As an autobio- 
graphy is in print, what more is wanted P Some 
account of his literary labours, however, would 
not be out of place in '' N. & Q." He wrote and 
published in numbers Cockney Talti — ver^ humor* 
ous, and quite free from anvlhing offensive. He 
also published a novel, Domiey and Daw/hler. It 
had nothing to do with Dickens's story ; the title 
was a mere ad captandiim. He wrote also a pretty 
little poem called "The Derbyshire Dalea,^* and 
some good imitations (not parodies) of Moore, 
Eliza Cooke, &c. I remember reading in Tha 
Timet the advice of Mr. Commissioner Phillips 
after the delivery of the Baron's certificate — " Mr. 
Nicholson, one word at parting r in future confine 

EptasAX ov THE Walchkebn EiPEDinoK 
(1* S. li. 63 ; 4'^ S. r. 174, 407, 606 ; vi. 84, 144, 
244.) — The controversy with regard to the cor- 
rect version of this epigram is, I think, set at 
rest by the following extract from a letter sd- 
dresaed by Lord Palmerston to his sister, the 
Hon. Mies Temple, dated Feb. 27, 1810. (Sir 
Henry Lytton Bulwer's lAftof Viicount Falmer- 
>ton, 1870, i. 117) :— 

" Did yon aee the following epigram the other day In 
the Cliraiicltf if j'oa did not it is a pitv .von ebould 
miss it, and I send it to yon ; it is by Jekyll :— 
' Lord Chatham with hia sword undrawn. 
Stood wsiting for Sir Richard Stracban ; 
^r Richard, eager to get at 'em. 
Stood wailing— but for what P— Lord Chatham I ' 
" It is very good, I think, t>oth in rhyme and point" 
It will be observed that Lord Palmerston states 
positively that the epigram ia by JekylL 

H. P. D, 


(4** S. vi 457.)— S. will find eome iulbimation 

4»aVlI. JiK.T.TI,] 



in Burke's Sxtinet and Dormant Peerage, ed. 1840, 
p. 13fi. The Mcount thereio giren woiUl not place 
bim in tka " fiiet rank" among noblemen. 


Robert de Comyn waa Duke of NortbumberUiid 
for the. apace of only one jear, 1066-9, and waa 
dain in Duliaiii with most of Ua followers. 
[" The alaughter waa made the fifth of the Calends 
of FebruBi;, anno 1070." MUIes' Cat. of Sonour, 
p. 708).] See Sit H. Nicholas' Sulorie Peerage 
tf England, lenaed by W, Conrthope, Esq., 1857, 
p. 868. D. C. ^ 

CucuuBSS (i"' S. tL 474.)— Cucumber from 
gherkin ia onlj a false ezteosioa of the joke, as 
m the celebrated "pur of urocodiles " anecdote 
io Joe Milier. A. B., meetiiig C. D., detains him 
with a prolix nairati re of the capital pair of gaiters 
he had picked op in Change AUej. C. B., to cut 
themattetshott,faceUousljBuggeslethathe should 
call them bis (pair of) aHigatora. Whereupon 
A- B. trots off delighted, and meeliDg E. F. re- 
tuls that capital joke of C. D.'s about how the 
pair of gaiters that he had jnst purchased in 
Change Alley ought to be called a pair of croco- 
dilea— "hal hal" "Well," aaid E.F., "a pair of 
croeodilesf I don't see the joke." "No more 
do I now," said the hapless A. B., " bat it seemed 
very funny when C. D. first said it 1 " So, as a 
jt^ may lose by repetition, a gherkin metamor- 
phosed into a cucomber becomes pointless. 

Vebbhk Saf. 
Hb. JACxaoir must excuse my sapng that it la 
he who has spoiled this andeot joke, for to omit 
the encumber is to omit the point V.'s mistake 
is a mere putting the cart before the horse acci- 
dentally. The anecdote used to be told as fol- 
lows: — King was pooh-poohing some man's 
etymologies with a " Nonsense ! you may as well 
WKj mj name is derived from cucumber." " Well, 
so it is," was the quick retort: " Jeremiah King — 
Jerry King — j erking — gherkin — cucumber I " 
Somehow I have always connected the story with 
a college dinner, hut I really cannot say why. A 
bftd pun on Jerry King and gherkin would not 
^Te lived so long, la conclusion, will some one 
tell us how it is that young cucumbera are called 
gherkins P I do not see the etymology myself. 
P. P. 
The derinttion is not gherkin from Jeremiah 
Rug, but cucumber from King Jeremiah, Thus 
Sing Jeremiah, Jeremiah iCng, Jerry King, 
jerkui, gherkin, cdcnmber. B. S. Chakhock. 
Giay'* Ion. 

L.oi!Hi!«o Laud (4* S. yi. 476.)— Tour corre- 
spood^it R. T. C. may rest assured that there ia 
no Citvmological connection between Lothing Land 
■nd Xothiiiii aod Lothrin^n. The latter (not- 
wHbatonding the tennination -m^m) is simply a 

corruption of Loiharingia, I. e. Lotharii Segnum, 
According to the iSKat. Aec. Satt. the name Lo- 
thian is said to be from loch, but it is more pro- 
bably derived from lad, lod^watet. Polydnre 
Virgil informs us that Laudonia (t. e. Lothian) in 
his time was an ertensive district beaconing at 
the Tweed, and stretching conmderably beyond 
the city of Edinburgh. Lathing Land (in Domes- 
day Ludingaiand) anciently formed part of the 
hundred of Ludinga, which waa afterwards colled 
the Half Hundred of Mutford. It may hare had 
its name from Lake Lothing, &om the same root 
OS the name Lothian. Sackung (Suffolk) says of 
Lothinaland : " The Waveney washes its western 
side, while Oulten Broad and Lake Lothing form 
its southern boundary, which uniting with the 
Ocean near Lowestoft, insulate the district" 

B. S. CnABnoOE. 
Griy'i Inn. 

P. 3. Conf. the rirer names Lyd, Lud, Loddon, 
and local names commencing with Lud, Lod. 

The name of Lotbringen (Lorraine) has nothing 
to do with the Oerman word loth, plummet, or 
with the acddental fact that the region which 
bears the name " adjoins Champagne, a level 
country." Lothringen is Lotharingia. The pre- 
sent Lotbringen is a small part of a region that 
was named Lotharingia becanae it was assigned 
to the Emperor Lothar (Lothwre in Gibbon's 
Ittclme and Pall) when, on the death of Lewis 
the Pious (Charlemagne's son), the empire was 
divided among his ^ree sons — Lothar, Charles 
(king of the West Franks), and Lewis (king of 
the East Franks). Johk HosKTira-ABBAiuLi.. 
Combe Tiearaga, B««r Woodstock. 
" Cketosiro " (4* S. vi. 476.)— I never heard 
or met with the word. But it may be a diminu- 
tive of Certota, the Italian word for a Carthusian 
convent In the Certosa, near Florence (now 
dissolvedl, various trades were carried on. There 
was a laooratory, a distillery of Chartreuse and 
peppermint-water, &c, Ac, a shoemakers' shop, 
a tailors' ditto, &c. As a carpenters' workshop 
the premises, the inlaying of ivory a-^ 
' ■ — u._;-^ta 

oniamental wood (■ 

occupatioa in Italy) 

may have formed a part of the conventual in- 

ud such work, as well as otl 
may have been called eertottno work, o: 

y hav 
lavaro eertotino. There does not U 
mystery about the term. 

jAms Hkrbt Dixo9'. 

Akoikit ScoTTiaH Dbm (4'» 8. vi. 463.)— The 
deed given by J. M. ia doubtless interesting, but 
I have one in photooincograph lying before mo, 
earlier by one hundred and twenty-one yenrc, and 
deserving of notice in yoor columns, as believed 
to be the earliest document in the vernacular 
extant It is on award of an ancestor of mine, i 
Andrew Mercer, Lwd of Meiklour, in a dispute, I 



between Robert Stewart, Eatl of Fife aod Men- 
teiib, and John Lo^e, eon itod heir of Sir John 
Logie, Knight, relatiTe to the lands of Lof^e and 
Strsthfrartny in PerthshJM. It was given in pre- 
sence o( King Robeit II. and his son John. Earl 
of Canick, and is dated Maj 16, 1385. 

The oripoAl IB in the charter cheat of Sir Wil- 
liam H. Stewart, Bart,, of Murthly, and a copy 
was published in the Edinburffh Evenutff Courant 
of March 15 last bj a correspondent who signed 
liimaetf J. A. R., and termed it "the oldest 
writing yet discoTered in the Scotch language." 

I understand that the fac-Hnile of which I am 
possessed is to be fonnd in the Ked Book of 
Grantully. W. T. M. 

Royal Tipogkaput (4'* S. vi. 299, 443.)— It 
is well known that somewhere between the years 
1840 and 1850 Her Majesty and Prince Albert 
occasionally employed tbemeelves by etching upon 
copper. They received practical instruction in the 
art from Mr, Hayter, afterwards Sir George 
Hayter, who attended erery morning at Windsor 
Castle for the purpose. If a private copper-plate 
press was made use of for atriking off impressicms 
of tho plates produced, it would be at Windsor 
Castle, and not at Buckingham Palace, as stated 
by II. ¥. P. ; but there is some doabt as to the 
existence of such a thing, and certain it is that 
Mr. Juhn Burgess Brown, a bookseller and copper- 
plftte printer of Windaor, was regularl;f empfojed 
by the royal artists to produce impressions of the 
lilates as they were etched. As secrecy was de- 
sired, be was careful to see that the same quantity 
of proof paper which he bad given to his work- 
man was received back in the shape of impresdons. 
It seems, however, that the latter, perhaps with- 
out ulterior object, struck off a waate or trial 
proof or two of each on card or ordinair paper. 
These he pasted, aa curiosities, in a sort of album, 
to the number of uxty-three, and in thia state 
they were seen by a Mr, Jasper Tomsett Judfre, of 
Windsor. Thia person managed, after some hag- 
gling, to purchase tho lot for the sum of five 
pounds, and having cleaned and mounted them, 
proposed to recoup himself by their exhibition 
and by the sale of^ an analytical list, under the 
title of A Beecriptiae Catalogue of the Royal Vic- 
toria ami Albert Gailtry of EUhtiuii. At this the 
royal artisla wero greatly annoyed, and gave in- 
Btructions to their solicitor to file a bill in Chancery 
agmnst Strange, the publisher of the catalogue, 
on the ground that the etchioga referred to had 
been wrongfully obtained. 

Tbo Bubse^juent proceedings— which certainly 
appear to have been harshly oppresaive against 
toe offending parties— with a list of the etchings, 
and a lar^e amount of curious matter, are minutSy 
set forth in a publication entitled — 

" The ' Boyal Etchings.' A Statement of F»ot» re- 
lating to the Or^D, Object, and Pragrem of the Pro- 

coe^Dgs in Chancery, instituted by Her Hajestr and the 
Prince ConKirt ; to whidi are appended Codhu of Letter* 
to the Qneen ani) Prince Albert, &c." Bj Jaaprr Tomsatt 
JndRe. 8vo, Loudon, W. Strange, Jon. (1846) pp. 74. 
Price Balt-a-Crawn. 

WiLLiiu Bats. 


Paulkt of Aiipokt(4* S. Vi. 0.)— Tho brothers 
of George twelfth Marquis of Winchester were— 

" 1. Norton Paulet, M.P. fbr Wincbester, manied, bat 
died I. p. 1759." 

S. Hoirj P., IheAnny, died aamirrivd 1743. 

5. John P., ia the Armj, died unmB cried in Gennanj^. 
i. Chiries P., eapt. R.N., died namarried 1762. 

6. WilliamP.,inth«N»vj-,diedunnurriedl773. 

G. Herlwrt P.r Ospt. in the Arinv, died unmarried 

7. Francis P, died a minor at Cambridge 1742." — Z)*- 
brtU't Fteragt, 1826. 

Camp, Aldeiihot. 

" Thbbb wab a Lutlb Majt " (4** S. vL 611.) 
Mk. JAOiaoff ii careless as to the measure of tbia 
old nuiae^ rhyme. Hie last line would neither 
read nor si&g in time. It ought to be — 
" Aid ahot bim tbnwsh the head." 
The first and second verses are constantly suag in 
the nursery ; but there b a third verse (see tho 
Percy Bocie^'s Tracts) which is not so generally 
known. Ther« is in the same collection another 
short ballad, which goes to the same measure — 
" Then was ■ litck msn, and he wooed a little maid,"-- 
where the little maid, with a most housewifely 
prudence, desires to know bi* means of support 
m marriage, and asks — ■ 

- Will the leva that you're so rich in 
Hake a Are in the kilobeo. 
Or the little God ai Love turn the spit ? " 


Thb SwAM-SoNe Of Pabsoh AvuHr (4"" S. yi. 
493.) — There is » remarkable coincidence in this 
DairatJTe, which I mention with a denre to elicit 
some fuller information, tending to idenUfy Par- 
son Avery as an emigrant from England, and a 
settler in North Carolina — probably the pastor 
of a congregation composed of Presbyteriana emi- 

Sating from Newbury in Berkshire, " one of the 
onsands of families who, in 1635, retired to New 
England," and possibly founders of Newbeme 
(Newberie P) in the above-named statfl. 

The Avery family were connected with the 
clothing trade in Newbury, Beriis, at that date. 
They were Presbyterians, and the name has only 
been extinct for a few years. Latterly they were 
Blackwnll Hall factors in Cateaton Street, and 
a branch settled at Marlbro in Wilts. Dr. Avery, 
the second treasurer of Guy's Hosmtal, was re- 
lated to the AveiTs of Newhu^. They used the 
arms confirmed by Cooke to Wm. Avery of Fill- 
ingby, co. Warwick — vii. ermine on a pale en|- 
grajled azure, three lions' heads couped or. ;^ I C 

4">S.Vir. Jan. 7,71.] 


It is Tet7 evident that the poem relates to 
anotlieT Newbui; than tha EngUslt town. Itauits 
well with tlie town of that name in North Caro- 
Eos ; and posaiblj aome reader of " N. & Q." on 
that shors of the Atlantic ma; be able to furnish 
local tntditioas, to confirm the ezistence of rocks 
at Marble Head, and to identifj Parson Arerj as 
the pastor of colonists &Dm Newbury, Berks, who 
named the new settlement after the home the; 
had left in gearch of religious aad citU freedom. 

The poem referred to is one of Whittier's, pub- 
lished in his Toltime entitled Some Baliadi. 

A. E. 

iKisa FoRFEiTOEES (i" S. Ti, 545.) — The 
books or hook referred to by the Abbfi MacGeo- 
Eiiagan as accompaojing the Report on Irish For- 
feitures in 1700, must be, I conclude, that rare 
Tolume — 

"A List of tbc Claimi ai tbe^ are ealred witii (be 
Tnislees at Chichester Honsa oo Collega Green, Dublin, 
on or before the Tenth of Augnst, 1700," Fol, " Dablili# 
DrlDted by Joseph Rsv, and an Id be eold br Patrick 
Campbell. Booludler, in Shiaaer Row, 1701." 

The copy which belonged to William Luttrell 
is in my Irish library. E. Ph. Shiblbt. 

PiTCHiR (4"> 8. yi. 249, 389, 486.) — Fannut, 
the Latin equivalent of ptdch, is used b; Pliny of 
" a substance that crows on the tree £^lops be- 
rides the ocorne." (Pl. 16, 8, 13, $ 86.) May not, 
therefore, the " legend '' " We've ^ot another 
little chap at 'ome as this one 'ere ain't even so 
mnch as apatch t<po» " (" N. & Q." p. 390) mean 
this "one ere" is no more to be compared with 
" the little chap at 'ome," than is the parasite 
Kpon the onh with the acorns P Or may not a 
simpler elncidation b« found in the practice of 
mending tattered garments F The ptUeh ehonid 
be as like as may b« to the material to be patdied. 
Hence, when one peison is very mnch unlike 
•nother, he may properly be said to bo "no 
pafMn for bim."^ EsinniD Txw, M.A. 

Tkb RocHBaiEB HospiTit (4'" S, vi. 602.) — 
The word " proctor " in connection with Watls's 
hospital is now undentood to mean a privileged 
beggar. It is used in this sense in the statutas of 
I^w. VI. and Elizabeth. For an admirable ac- 
count of the nse of the word which so bothered 
Kentish antiquaries of the last century see a jwper 
by Mr. William Brenchley Bye in Archceoiogia 
OnMamt, vi. 63, 53. OSOBOB Bkbo. 

Babibs' Bbiib (4"- S. vi. 475.)— These are re- 
terred to in the School ofJlecreation, or Gentleman' e 
T^or (edition of 1684), in the part about beU- 
riitgi"g, quoted in Ellacombe's Set/rieiandJiinffers 

" Secoudl]-. nor let tha bdla be made thy lollabv, to 
divwo some ditaatiafacUan, sad m maka toM t«pair to 

the belfree (yctis the narse to her whiatle-bells) lo qniet 
thy disturbed mind ; and thus (as the divine poet encel- 
lently expresses it) to silence it with — 

' Look, look, what's here I A dainty golden thing ? 
See hoiT the dandng belts tarn round, and ring 
To pleaso my bantling,' " 4c. 
Can any one tell ue who the "divine poet" iaP 
Mr. Ellacomhe does not know. In my copy of 
the School of Sccreation (1696) the above does 
not occur. J. T. F. 

Korth Eelsey, Brigg. 

Addison makes mention of baby's corals in 
No. I, of the Spectator, where, drawing a fanciful 
portrait of himself, he says :— 

"TTie gravity of my behaviour at my very Erst ap- 
pearance In the world seemed lo favour my molher's 
dream ) fat, as aba ha* often told me, I threw away my 
rattle when I was two monlha old, and would not make 
use of my coral till (hey bad taken tbe bells from it." 

The Spectator appeared in 1711, and its author 
was brought into the world with the gravity and 
solemnity in the text recorded in 1672; so this 
takes us back two hundred years in the hiatory of 
the coral and bells. JrUAB Shaiiuak. 

EcsTATics (4" 3. vi. 475.)— Last year there 
was published a very able and inlereatiog work 
descriptive of the town and vicinity of Gheel, the 
Bedlam of Belgium. The title of the book is 
Gheel, the City of the Simple, bv the author of 
lUmigh Interior!, Chapman and llall, 18C0. It is 
dedicated to that diatiiiguiehed philautbropiat and 
" ■ ' it, the late Dr. Ducpfitiaui. Perhaps 


this might be of st 

« to your II 

D Joy. 

Samplers (4" S. vi. 500.)— Prcauniiog that 
M. D, does not desire to confine the Bpecimeos of 
sampler poesy for which he asks to euch na are 
obtain able in the dwolUnga of the humbler classes, 
I send aome lines worked on a sampler by one of 
my aunts at the ago of nine : — 

■' Jeans, permit thy graciouB name (o stand 
As tbe firet work of Arabella's hand ! 
And while her fingeta on the canvas move. 
Engage her tender Ihonghts to seek thy love. 
With thy dear children may she have a part, 
And form thy image on her vouthfnl heart. 

" MiPT ■Arabella Pearson. 
"July It-*, 1801." 

I shall be glad to know if any of your corre- 
spondents have met with these lines eleewhere, 
ns my aunt, who was taken to her rest just nine 
years later, was from an early age accustomed to 
verafy in the style of the above. J. A. Vs. 

The Boy-Bishop of thb PROPiflABHA fob 
Christmas (4'" S. vi. 491.)— As Mr. MacCabb 
has recently furnished two notes upon Christmas 
Customs and Boy-Bishopf, I write to say that the 
custom exists even in our time at tbe Propaganda 
College of Roma of choosing on Christmas Eve 
(by ballot) a boy-bisliop. 'The practice is said 


[4'» S. Vll. Jan. 7, 71. 

to have been stipulated for in the orlginsl grant 
of money at the foundiition of this institution, 
to perpetuate the Middle Ages' custom in t!iis 
Beminary at the Christmos time. The happy boj- 
bishop'a attendants are a deacon and eubdeacon, 
wlecUd by hia loidahip generally from the Italian 
poctiou of the commuuty. Ilia episcopal func- 
tions ceaw the day after the Epiphany. 

I nitl be Terv thankful for your insertion of 
this note, as all Christmu usages are of much 
inttiiest to your readers. Datid Fltm. 

Dub ok Dona (4** S. vL 600.)— The usual 
meaning of dor, dour, dor, found in geograpbical 
namea, is water, from the Welsh dmr (au^r), 
Cornish ijoicer, dotar^ douar, Ihow ; Armoric door, 
dutiar; Gaelic dobhar, domhar, dur; Irish dar. 
Fiondonr (Jionn-dar) is ^ white or fair water ; 
and Dardoman may mean deep water {duT'dom- 
hainn). Wachter wya that Air in some Con- 
tinental names is ^ trajectus fluminis : hentx 
Bnjodurum, " tmj^ectus Bojorum in Norico " ; 
Batavodurum, ti^ectus BataTomm in Belgio ; 
Duten, Durstede, Durocasaium {Drear), &c. The 
name Ltadtt ia not derived from this root, and 
tho only etymological part of the word is l~d. 
R. S. Chabitock. 

Gra;'* Ina. 

Bur = water in British. Gkobob Bbdo. 

Dwr ia British, perhaps European, for water 
Dirrwent, I believe, though I am not certain, 
meaning running-water, a river. This may be 
found in I/eneeM-water, a not uncommon form of 
adding a current word with the same meaning to 
an earlier one. Dicr is found also in Dwrby, 
Derby, a place by water, the river bebg the Der- 
went, pronounced "Darrand," and assuming in 
the dialect of the neighbouring counties the 
harder form of " Trent" There is a Herefordshire 
river Dour, and I have do doubt but the word 
Douto has the same origin. J. PliICE. 

The Pasis Catacombs (V S. vi. SOO, 467.)— 
Yonr correspondent H. H. aeems to have fallen 
into the common mistake of confounding the Cala- 
combei of Paris trith the Carri^res. The fact ia 
the Caleeombettotmhat a comparatively small por- 
tion of the vast aubteiranean maze which extends 
under the southern quarters of Paris, and from 
which was quarried tba stone for the nuilding of 
old Lutetia. In 1785 a certun part of these ex- 
cavations was separated from the remainder by a 
thick wall, and was otherwise prepared for the 
reception of the bonea to be taken from the ceme- 
tery of the Innocents. In the year following the 
place was consecrated by the clergy under the 
name of the Catacombes, and from that date to 
1814 numerous consignments of huotan remains 
removed from the various intramural church- 
yards have been made to those gloomy Inns, 
where the skuUa are tticked up very much after 

the manner of old port wine. Of this ostuaire, as 
it is termed, I possess a very exact plan, iocludin^ 
a considerable portion of the adjacent passages, 
made " sous la direction des ing^nieurs dea mines " 
in 1657; and a few years previously I saw at the 
oifice of the director a plan in the course of ese- 
cution on a large scale of the whole of the Car- 
riirei. An accurate guide to these excavations IB 
indeed abaolutely necessary, as men are conatanlly 
employed in making good with masonry the old 
supports, which from time to time pve way under 
the weight imposed upon them. Formerly the 
CaUieombei formed one of the regular lions of the 
dty, but for a long period access to them on the 
part of viwton has been strictly prohibited. The 
usual approach is by a stair iff a courtyard adjoin^ 
ing the Barriire d Enfer, but there are not less 
than fifty entrances lu all. R. H. D. B. 

Fbbt, OB F. E. B. T. (3"" S. pamm : 4"' S. vi. 
4ei.)^The oidnion of Kiiodocanakib, that these 
letters originally formed one word, and boie a 
Natural and not a sort of anagrammatic meaning, 
seems to be perfectly well founded. His state- > 
ment of the use of the word in the arms of Savoy 
before the date of the defence of Khodes is con- 
elusive on that point What, then, wasthe meaning 
ofthewordF Hereisasuggeetion whichnaturally 
presents itself to the mind. The princes of the house 
of Savoy set up, from a veir early period, to be 
very pious. Ainadeut was a faTourite name witb 
them. A cross was their cognisance. The moat 
fitting word to apply to it would be lert in the 
proper and popular sense of the verb "He bears," 
indicating that He, of whom the Cross was the 
tvpical emblem, bore the sins of the world. A 
clever and innnuating courtier might afterwards 
discover that the letters of the word could be ap- 

6 lied as a flattering eulogium to the Defender of 
Lhodes, and the £scovery once made and pub- 
lished would be readily adopted by s delighted 
Sirince and a loyal people. But it is a curioUB 
act that the very prince to whom this aort of 
fiattery was applied, and to whose martial gal- 
lantry writers of a subsequent date (Sansovino, 
DeUa Origine de' Cavaluri, Venice, 168a) ascribed 
the origin of the word itself as a heraldic distinc- 
tion, took for bis own device a running stream, 
with the motto " Vires acquirit eundo . (Berto- 
lini, Compendia delia >Storta della Stale Caia di 
Savoid). fg- 

Babbebs' Fobfeits (4"' S.iii. 264.)— Twenlj- 
flve years ago no alluuon to a raaor as a weapon 
or as a aniddal instrument was permitted, under 
a fine of a gallon of beer, in any of the Dartford 
barbers* shops. In the celebrated breweries <^ 
the same town the word water is tabooed under a 
heavy fine : the article when alluded to must be 
styled Upior, A. J. UDXinr, 

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apotUtteoed* A 0>, Printert, Nev-ttrttt Squara, London. 

*^ S. VIL Jas. 7, 71.] 



Thb Sok8 "Do¥fli*fl" (4'» S. \i. 603.)— This 
aoaa bos Also becD aet to muaic bj Clara Bell (not 
I *< Curibet "), and waa published ux or more years 

I dnce. I bave Twnly endesTOured to find by 

! whom. Can any reader nasiat me? I have it in 

I TDannaeript, and most of my fiieads prefer it to 

I I^y Scott 3 rendering. In each case the worda 

f ar« somewhat altered from the origioal a> puV 

I lished at p. 2^ of'Foemi, by the author of J<An 

[ SdA/ar, where it ia headed " Too late," followed 

by toe line 

" Dowglu, Dowglu, tendir ind tran." 

Jaues Brittev. 

Old Cekistmas Caxol (4"'S. vi. 506.)— Mb. 

Patbb is evidently not awnre that the Latin 

Ieong, of which he givea only the first three verses, 
appeared entire in " N. & Q." (i" S. ii. 657). It 
was sent by me, apropoe of an old Latin poem of 
A somewhat similar uind sent by Mr. Hazlitt 
(l" S. ii. 390^. As the first three Terses diifer 
eonmderably in my copy from those sent by Mb. 
Patke, it is more than probable that the sue- 
ceedintr verses are as much at variance in our 
respective copies. I will here repeat merely the 
first three as I have always heard them : — 
" Die mibl, quid lit unm ? 

Uniu Mt Tenia Dens, qni^regnat in ccclii. 
•■ Die mihi, rinid fdnt dao ? 
Daa tabula Uojtns : 
Kqus at venu Dena, qui t^nat in MoUs. 
" Die mihi, qaid sint tra» ? 
Tn-B PatriarchK. 
DiiiG tabals Moysis i 

liuos est vena Deni, qui regnsl In ecBlis." 
i The reader ia referred for the nine succeeding 

t Terses to " N. & Q," at the above reference. 

' I am no Sanscrit scholar, and know nothing of 

Indian literature. But I have seen a Hebrew 
poem, or song of rimilar construction, though not 
on a sacred subject, but more resembhng our well- 
known ■■ House that Jack built." Indeed these 
songs, made to be repeated backwards at the end of 
etch verse, seem to have been favourite composi- 
tions in all ages and countries. The Hebrew song 
tarns upon a kid, and ia pretty evidently the 
i original model of our "House that Jnck built." 

I I saw it in private possession; but a translation 

1 ia given in Halliwell's Nursery Bhyma, together 

I with some others of a similar character, including 

I the famous story of the " Old Woman and her 

I Rg." This last, however, is not well given. The 

dit^ as I always heard it in childhood is far 
better, but I fear hardly worth insertion in the 
I P*gM o^ "^'- & Q'l" though I should willingly 

send it, if desired. F. C. II. 

N. F. HiTH's "HuioBT OF Mttbio" (4'" 8. 
vi. 93.)— It seems that Haym's Bistory of Munc 
WH4 originally written in Italian, and in 1730 
propoaals were mftde for publishing the work in 

English. It ia exceedingly doubtful if any MS. 
of the English translation ever existed. Chal- 
mers tells us Haym died in March 1730, and that 
bis effects were sold by public auction shortly 
after that event If so, an inspection of the 
auction catalogue might throw some light upon 
the subject. An impression of the portraits of 
Tailis and Byrd in one plate, engraved for Haym's 
work, is in my possession. It is probably unique, 
and much valued by Eswasd F. Bimbadlt. 

Irish Cab and Nocnr (4** 8. vi. 545.)— If 
Mh. Llotd consults " N. & Q." 3'^ S. vi. 115, 110, 
he will find, I think, all the information he rs< 
quires. I sent the patdculata in reply to a similar 
inquiry from A. T. L. Abhda. 

" The BiriBE End " (4"' S. vi. 340, 427, 610.) 
I did not mean that this phrase was uogromm.i- 
tical or nonsenucal, but that it was silly in the 
conueiion in which it aeems always to he used 
with us. It ia always" said of a war, or of some- 
thing of which the whole course ia bitter or evil 
as well as the end ; indeed the end of a war or 
the like ia surely Us* bitter than the rest of it; 
whereas the whole point of the passage in the 
Proverbs is the contrad between tne ways of the 
woman and the end of them. Littrlion. 

I venture to submit the following explanation 
of this phrase : A war carried on to " the bitter 
end" is a war carried on " to the death." The 
interchangeableness of the terms arises thus ; The 
Jewa have a legend (Talmudic, I have no doubt) 
to the effect that immedintely before dissolution 
an angel comes to the bedude of a ^ag man and 
drops upon his {tongue one drop of an intensely 
Mttet liquid, which deprives bim of the faculty 
of speech; a second drop takes away his sight; 
and a third terminates his existence. (It ia many 
years since I read the legend, and I am writing 
from memory, but this repetition is substantially 
accurate.) Hence the phrases * the bitterness of 
death is past," " there be some standing here who 
shall not taste of death," and others, which will 
readily occur to the reader. J. L. Cherkt. 


Lord Btroh's " English Bauds," itc. (-t'" S. 
tL 3C8, 440, 480.)— The late Lord Dundrennau 
obtained from Lords Brougham and Jetfrey a 
holograph note from each, contwning a list of 
their articles in the Edinburgk Sevteur. These he 
collected and bound up as part of their works. 
The article on Byron was in Jeffrey's list, and not 
in Brougbam's. These volumes were sold at a 
very high price at the sale of lie library of Lord 
Dundrennan. J. S. 

A friendly word or two with J. II. BixoN. 
Montgomery's Wanders of Switxrland could 
hardly be called " a juvenile effort," as the author 
was thirty-five years old when he wrote it. Nor 



[i'l-s-vii. JiK. r,'7i. 

was it ever bo conridered by anjr cliwa of readers 
eitber in Eaglaiid or in America, irbere it boa 
long; since gone through a score of editions. 

Of Jetfrev's ftutborabip of the review in the 
Edinburgh, Mon^meiy nevei entertained the least 

If Lord Byron applied the epithet " mTiug " to 
Kontgomery, no term eould have been less 
appropriate. Montgomery himself published in 
1824 two volumes of Proie *y a Poet ; but the 
work had too little of the sensattonnl stjle, and 
too much of a pious tone, to become popular, and 
has never, I believe, been reprinted. 

The Chttrch and the Warmiag-pm was a youth- 
ful ym (fe«j>rt(, but itwse never "famous," nor 
did it deserve to be so on any account : it was, hs 
De. Dixon says, " considered as mere fun." The 
author WHS not "prosecuted and convicted" for 
publisbiDg it; but, on two occsaions, for libels of 
& verv different character. It was reprinted as n 
epiteful annoyance to the poet by some unprin- 
cipled townsman, who had " his labour for his 
pains"; for it may be doubted whether Mont^ 
gomery ever became aware of the existence of the 
reprint. J. H. 

" That Man's Fateeb," etc. (4'^ S- vi. 232, 
288, 488.)— It seems to me that my critic, Mb. 
■William Batbs^ is the one who is wrong in this 
matter. Admittmg, as I am required to do, "that 
the son of your father's son may be your nephew," 
I fail utterly to see what bearing the admission 
has upon the original query, which was — 

"Two men were walking along a portrait-f^llery j 
one observed to the other, pointing to A portrait, 'Thai 
moa'a father was my faOier'i only son,* Wb«t relation 
ii the portrait to the speaker ? " 

That Mb. Batbs hastened to put me right 
without much attention to the question is evident 
from his introducing a line which is rendered 
unnecessary by the words " only son " in the 
above. The queiy itaelf is slight enough, and no 
"superhuman effort of wisdom" was claimed for 
its solution. As it was thought worth putting as 
a question, I suppose it was intended to elicit n 
Teply; but trifles become of some importance when 
correspondents like Mb. Baies impugn the cor- 
rectness of the answer pven, Chables Wtlib. 

Dr Bonus (i* S. VL 501.)— now Sir Henry 
de Bohun was slain by the Bruce at Bannockburn 
is well known ; but it is probably not so well 
known that the old poem of " William of Palemo " 
was written for Sir Humphrey de Bohun, nephew 
to King Edward II. Sir Frederic Madden gives 
ceveral interesting and useful particulars about 
the family in bis scarce edition, which fby his 
permisuon) I have reprinted. (See William of 
Palcma, ed. Skeat (Early English Text Sodety, 
extra series), 1807; preiace, pp. x. and iL 

Waltes W. Sieat. i 

1, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge, 

It may perhaps be of some as^stance to A. F. H. 
to knowthataoout nine miles from Devizos is a 
small hamlet called Maaningford Bohun. 

A. B.T. 

"The Danish Boi'a Soko " (4"^ S. vi. 501.) 

" Among the remote monntains of the X.W. people 
sUll fbney they hear on the evening breeze lunes as if 
of strings plaved upon, and mcUDcboly la^'a in a roreign 
longue. It ii 'Tb< Dinish Boy,' who eadly ainga ths 
old bardio lay* over the barrows of bii once miably 
forefathers."— VVoreaae'sDonei and JVorirrtjian* in £ag- 
land, p. 90. 

W. S. 

Sobllbt's "D-khok OS THE World" (4'* S. 
T. 634; vi. IfiO.) — I have only lately seen these 
remarks by C. D. L. and Mb. J. E. IIoDtiEiir: 

Serhans some other correspondent has alieadr 
irDiehed the^requisite explanation, but of this I 

The difficulty raised by CD. L. is briefly this : 
That Shellev, after he had in 1813 iasued Queen 
Mah as a printed book, spoke of it in ISIO ^when 
be published the revised and abridged version of 
it termed The Dirmon of the Iforla) as " a poem 
which the author does not intend for publication." 
It would seem that C. D. l>. has not reflected 
upon the difference between a hook priated and a 
book pt^iehed. Queen Mob was printed by 
Shelley in 1813, but was not published by him 
either then or-at any later date. This fact, I ap- 
prehend, removes every difficulty. The matter is 
set forth more in detail in the notes to my recent 
re-edidon of Shelley, vol. i. pp. 464, 473. 

W. nl. RossEin, 

66, Euslon Square, N.W 

Old PAcrriNo: Chbist's Pobibait (4"" S. vi. 
2.31, 449.) — These portraits of Our Lord, from a 
Byzantine original, are not uncommon ; my father 
has met with seven or eight. I hate before me a 
slight sketch of one he varnished for Colnaghi in 
Feb. 184fi. A profile face turned to the left of 
the spectator; naii long and peaky beard ; the 
face of the Jewish type, much exaggerated, almost 
grotesque ; painted m an oval on a square panel 
small folio size, with Ibe inscription — "This is 
the tiguer of our Lorde and Saviour Ihesus, that 
was sente by the greate Turcke t« pope Innocents 
the VIII. to redeme his brother that was then 
taken prisoner." At Spooner's, 370 Strand, may 
be obtained a shitling photof;rapb ot a head of 
Christ with a somewhat similar inscription; the 
face has more of the Italian type, and is probably 
taken from a print Albert Bdtierz. 

Court of Chancery. 

Chubohbs wrmiN Rohan Cahfb (3'* 9. v., 
vi., vii., Tiit., ix., x., patiim.) — A question was 
asked in " N. & Q." some time ago about churchea 
enclosed in Roman camps. I am not at my own 
home just now, and I cannot therefore give yon 
the necessary reference to the series and page. I 

*»aTI[. JiJi.7,71.] 


and othen gaTS instencea of cbuicbea bo aitu- 
at«d. Let me add to it the cbarctt of Taabui^h 
(Ad Taiim), Norfolk. 0. W. Bakklst. 

VxDEBiyFB (4* S. vi. 8.) — The deacription of 
Bedeiiffe, co. Kent, in the Haileian MS., is incor- 
nct It ahould be Surrey. A. J. j)vssjs. 

a, Bcnborongh Gardens. 

Sbxibwobt (4* S. TJ. 602.) — I have neyer 
«eo this plant, hot have heard itdeacribed by a per- 
am familiar with it aa having manr narrow learea 
without anj Htslk, growing about lour inches long, 
toi in a cluster. It is commonlf found on banks 
in Dorsetshire, and ia otherwise called gfiny 
■ilad from its frequent nee by gypdea. From 
■DOther person, who hod been a cook, I learned 
that it waa ollen used by the French in aalada. 
From tbia deacriptioo Mb. Bbittem will pro- 
UUt diacover the botanical name. 

F. C. H. (Murithian.) 

"THBDantBEAisHia Was" (4** 8. vl273, 
356.)— Ms. CtriHBiBi Bu>B has got hold of oolj 
the fiiBt half of thia saying. The complete phrase, 
aa I have alwajs heard it and used it, is : " Le 
diaUe bat ea femme et marie aa fille.'' I have 
asked some French relatiTes now staying with me 
abont it Thej hsTe always heard it as I hare 
written it £. E. Stkebt. 


TV SiVTf b/ Sir Rkliard fFhUtimglim, Lard Mayor of 

Lmtdim m At T«-r$ 1397, 1406-7, iW Ht9 \.D. 

Wrintn and Uhatrtited hy G. Carr. (LoDgiDUl.) 

Tfaongb anr l«inied friend Hr. Kfliehtle}' hu shoim 

that tbe foandttioD at the starf oF " Wnittlngton and his 

Cst" hu no claim to be contidertd ezdutlTely Englisb. 

there can be little qnestioa that this Boreber Kpos, as 

*«bave no doaht a German critic would fed bound to 

can thi« iotereeUng eiample of the papular fictiotu of 

the Uiddk Agu, ia one eapecially EngUsh in character 

aod ^nrit. In epeaklng of "Whlttlngton and his Cat" 

w ■ popnlar fiction, we must not be misunderstood or 

tnnxiaed to forget that Sir RIcluud Wbittlngton was s 

real peraonagc, whose former existence is attested not 

odIj bj our maolcipal ._ 

Hm Citj of London, and more recently by Canon LTionB' 
iBgaoioiu mmj, " Tbs Model Herdiant of the Middle 
Ago," bat only to that romantic portion of his atorjr which 
ceonects his sacoess in life with big world-renowned Cat. 
Tba wboiB character of Whittington, and the whole spirit 
«f 1^ BtOT.lMing as we hare said easentislly Engllab, Hr. 
Cair lias kiowd good Jadgmant in Mlseting It as a sob- 
Jset both ftvbiiHB and pendL The illustrations which 
■a has (finished »n ia ontUne, very charsottsistic snd 
Tarr effeellTe t and the artist has shown be ia a diligent 
itwlmit br ths pains which he has taken (i> tecare ao- 
CMtnnea, and in the variona sscassaries 
introdaced. The book is altogether a vsry 
E, and osrtalnly the moat elaborate literary 
It .which hsa yet bean ersctsd to tlie 

I»« Librari/ Dictiomry of tJu EnflUh Latigaagt, Etf- 
nuJosriod, Dtriratiiie, Sxpltitateiy, Franoioiciysg, and 
Synimjfmimi. Fowultd an Ue laioin of JoAhms, 
Walker, Wtbtttr, Worcattr. owf oAer dUtingtathtd 
ZexicogriqilitrM, milk tamtroiu imporlani AddUiatu, ami 
an Appndii conlaining Vaealndary of Foreign Wordt, 
Gloliary of ScoffnA Wardi, Clauie lUyth^ogji. Pre- 
Jixa and Affixet, Abbreviatiinit, Arbitrary Siyni, *<:. 
lUattrattd ba One Tlumiaiul EngraniHai on IFood. 
(Collina.) ^ 

Gcograpijf. Omtlmcted' anJ tngraied 

Ey John Bartholomew, F.R.G.S. Wilh a agmnu Indrx, 

(CoUina.) ^^ 

We have copied the elaborate title-paga of these two 

nsw contribationa la Educational Literature at lenEtb, 

that onr readers might judge for thenuelvea of ibeir 

elaims to anpport. We can speak ss to (lie excellent 

numner in which they sie got up, and, ss far ss we have 

been aide to teat them, there seems to have been every 

care taken in their preparation to secure accoraey and 

Tilt Life and Dealh of ifolher Skipt 

; teingnot m 

■UieUd,ic.lte7. (Peai 

Those who tske sn interest in the Prophecies of Mother 
Shipton, or in the correapondence on thia anbject which 
has taken place in these oolnmns, may be glad to know of 
thiaoheapreprintoftbel6S7 Edition of her Life. 
Tke Pirate, bu Sir Walter Scott, Bari (A. ii C. 


We must content ourselves on this occasion with re- 
cording the ap[>earance of this the Thirteenth Volume of 
"The Centensrisn Edition of the Waverley Novels." 

Death of thb Bev. Cahoei HARoofnT.— We littla 
thoi^tbt when we inserted in " N. A Q." of Saturday Irut 
some obnervationa on longevity from the pen of this 
much-respected gentleman, that he had been called to his 
rest. The Ven. Charles Ueorge Vernon Harconrt, who 
was Canon of Carlisle and Rector of Rothbniy, Uuiham, 
died on December ID, aged >eventy~two. 

Esausn PnowpNciATiosf of Lativ.— The Head 
maatera of various schoolg hsve lately held a meeting at 
Sherborne for the purpose of diacusaing matters relating 
to their prof^ion. A resolution was passed declaring 
that, in the opinion of those present, the systsm of Latin 
pronunciation prevailing In England is unsatisfactory, 
and inviting the Lsthi professors at Oxford and Cam- 

inted p 

elative to tbi 


■nd Cambridge, snd a 
is andesirsble, by genei 
tion, to banish Greek or any special subject fi . 
grade of sehoola." 

Cbrohicle of Everts is 1870. — The Pall Mall 
Gautte for last Monday contains so admirable a " Chro- 
nicle of Events In the Year 1870," that we strongly 
advise our rsadeis to secure it at once. At a time when 
BQch stirring events are taking place, and so close on one 
another, it la more necessary usn ever to have at hand a 
" Chronicle " of the post year to which ready rtfenmce 
maybe made. 

Pecrub Tak ScnBHDBL.— The death at Brussels Isst 
wsdt of this enxineat artist of the Dutch sohool oTpa 



[4'»S.Vir. Jan.7,71. 

ia aiiaoiinced. Bora at leihtjdm, nxr Bradt, In K. 
Brabaat, April 31, 18D6, he itudi«d at the academy at 
Antwerp, then under the direction of Van Brec Hii 
ikilfo] rendering of the varied efftet> of ai^cUl ligbt 
mads him widely known kdcI appreciated in aU artcirclea, 
English aa well as CoatinentaL 

RoriL Albert BaLL.— The Qoeen haa fixed Wed- 
nesday, March 29, for the day on which Her M^esty 
proposes to open the Boyil Alhert Hall at Eecuington. 

Louis TUB XIV.'« WiQ,— The Special CorreBpoode 
of The Tim at Tenallles adds the following to a li 
■cription of the aerrioa held in the chapel of the palace 
the preeence of the King of Pruaaia ;— " I am told by 
learned Gennan, whoae name is well known in EngUn . 
and, 1 moat add, Wales, that the origin of Lonla' pro- 
digiDQS wig waa not that be might impose on the i — " 
by its dimensions, hnt that be might preaerre the I 
ti'oaa of his yuntb. When a young man he was post 
ofa very magniScentcAcnJureifoJidc. flowing and cnrly, 
so that it was small flattery for sculptors and painlsn 
to make him' a model for Apollo. Bernini's chisel did 
not please the king, and hia marble now does duty out 
the cold as Quintus Curtius. As the king crew o!d, and 
'infallible hair lealotera' were not, hia glory fast ^- 

C;d, and he or his coartieis invented hb wig, so a 
up a leaemblance to Apolio." 
MsssRs. Hdbbt & Bi.ackictt'b Announcements for 
the Mew Year comprise :— The third and fourth vol 
of " Her Majeatv's Tower," by W. Hepworth Diion, 
pleting Ihe work ; " ReeoUections of Sodetv in France 
and Eneland," by I.ady Clementina Davies, "2 vols. c. . . _ 
8to; "Life and Adventures of Count Beognot," Minister 
of State under Napoleon I., edited from the French by 
Miss CM. VoDge, author of - The Heir of Redclyfre," iic., 
2 vols. Bvo ; " Impreaaions of Greece," bv the Right Hon. 
Sir Thomas Wtu, K.C.B., lata Britiah Miniater at 
Athens, 8voi "Life and Letters of William Bewick tlie 
Artist." bv Thomaa Landseer, A.E., 2 vols. 8va, with Por- 
trait by Sir Edwin Landseer, R.A. ; "Turkish Harems 
and Circassian Homes," by Hra. Harvey of Ickwell 
Bnry, 8v<^ with colonred iflostrations ; ''Lodge's Peer- 
age and Baronetage'forISTl,"uDderthaEapecial Patron- 
age of Her Majesty and corrected tfaroughoot by the 
Nobility, royal Svo ; and New Works of Fiction by the 
nuthor of "John Halifax," Mrs. Oliphint, Miss Amelia 
B. Edwards, Mr. Anthony Trollope, Mr. George Mao- 
Donald, Mr. J. Sheridan Lefanu, At 

The following volames (with the Sodetv's die mark, 
" Union Society," on the title-page and elaewhere) are 
wanted by the' Camhridee University Union Society; — 
Leigh Hunt's " Leisure Houra in Town "; ' Tales ftom 
Blackwood," vol. xi. ; Hawthorne's " Mosses from an 
Old Manse"; "A life for a Life"; "Kavanagh"; 
Dean Stanley^s " SL Panl's Eoistles," S vols. ( " Web- 
ster's Sermons"; Dr. Vanjhans "Church of the First 
DaTB,"voLi.; Blunt's "Sketcli of the Chnreh" ; Weat- 
cott "On the Gospels"; " Westcott's' "Bible in the 
Church " i Maurice's " Faith of the Liturgy " ; Trench's 
" Authorised Version of the New TeaUment "i Harris's 
"Africa"; Forbes's "British Star Fishes"; Roscoe's 
"Spectrum Analvsis" ; Greg's " Creeds of Christendom "; 
Leigh Hunt's " Town " ; Dean SUnley'a " New Teela- 
ment Revised " ; Staunton's " Chess-player's Handbook"; 
and Wynler's " Curiosities of Toil," 2 Tola. 

Tun Guild of LrmnATuRE asd Art, eatablished 
yeara ago by an inflaential body of literary men who 
were dissatitfled with the Llteiiiry Fund, is about to 
apply to Parliament for a Bill "to diasotve the Gnild, to 
authorise the Sale of the Lands held by it, and to ap- I 
propriate the Proceeds .of aaeh EUe and the other 

Fonda belonging to the Gnild, either in founding one or 
more Scholarships in Literature and Art, or toT such 
other purposes aa Parliament shall think fit." Dnder 
the dreumstances which led to the formation of the 
Guild, it would be perhaps too moch to expect, yet what 
• noble thing it wonld be (ae^g that, admitting soma 
defecta in Ita management, the Oteraiy Fund doea a 


Diinisler eff^ual 

' it, and that with 
iptjbility) if the minagei 


Letters who are 
insiderate r^ard to 
of the Guild could 

imo nLfluuTMiru, vii UBUBlvrTIUg Ufl piwvny lo lue L.l[»- 

rary Fnud. We wish Lord Lytton uid Mr. John Forster, 
than whom a larger-hearted man doea not exist, woijd 
really give this suggettion their nabiaased conslderatioD. 

Tas HuHTERUit Ci.DB.— Under this title a Society 
has bem instituted In Glasgow for reprinting some of the 
more interrattng works in early English and Scotiah 
literature. The removal of the College of Glasgow, from 
the old site in High Street to the new buildings at Gil- 
morehill haviug called special attention to the treasure* 
of old literature in the Hunterian Hnaeum, the project of 
fonning a Club has been levived, and has taken defiuile 
shape. The Hunterian Library contains many valuable 
and intareating eariy printed books and MSS^ which are 
undoubtedly worthv of bdng reproduced, and it has there- 
fore been auggested that the Society shall be called " The 
Hunterian Club." It is, however, not intended that ita 
wo^ Shalt be confined to the Hunterian Collection; but 
that books of intereet of an cdd date, from whatever 
Bonrcs obtained, ahall come within the scope of the So- 
ciety's opOTtions. It !a proposed that the reprints shall 
be in^ac-Bmifc, and, as nearly aa possible, of the form of 
the originals. Hut as there haa been a great variety of 
^-pe uaed in the production of our early Uteratnre, there 
may be difEculty in getting tvpe predaely similar to 
many of the books proposed to Ve reprinted, witliout iu- 
cnmuK an expense that could not be warranted, the 
Couni^ may be compelled either to forego the reprinting - 
-■■ - --'- works, or to use, for that purpose a typo of tl 

«r, although not identical wiUi the original. 
' s to be reprinted will probably be the 
re expxted to be given for the First 

The earlier works to 
fallowing, which ai 
Year's Subscriptior. 

"The late Expedlcion in Scotlandc, &c, under the 
Conduit of the Erie of Hertforde, &c London. 154t" 

" Expedlcion unto Scotlande of the most woorthy ftir- 
tunate Prince Edward Duke of Somenet, Uncle to king 
Edward Sixth, &c By W. Patten. London, 1648." 

"A Dialogue between e Experience and a CourUer, of 
the miserable estate of the world. First compiled in the 
Schottiache tongue by syr Dauid Lyndsey, knight (a 
of great learning and science), now newly corrected, 
nade pcrfit Eagliehe, Ac Anno 1666." 
'he Life and Acts of Sir William WaUace. Ediu- 

A CuiADiAH NnvEL.— We are indebted to the Pub- 
Kihtrt' Circ%tlar for the following extract from the Moh- 
Irtai GiaeUt : " New Novel by a Canadian Author. — We 
understand that Mr. R. Worthingtou, publisher, is at 
nresent engaged in writing a novel which la to be pitb- 
lished aimultaneonalv in Londoa and New York. The 
leading idea of it-will be the jealonsies of publishers, and 
the characters will be drawn from real life. The neces- 
aity of an international copyright law will be advocated 
of the New York Ring exposed. 

The reader will also be d 


Bteries of the United Statea Treaauiv Department, and 
ahown how seizara are made. The book, itis eipecl * 
win be full of interest." '^ 


4*a.TII. Ja.-..7,'71.] 




E. T. mi/it^d 
priafn/ Sat mtirrt in a larger type. 

B. W. T. Enutd. 

Q. An HkgHimate mm ofkU broltttr. 

t. B. m*t rrmtmbtr Out we hart to <wwM &e taitet 
ffa loiw eitclt if nad»n,fiiTmaai ofieiom tht arlictti 
to wkid F. B. abjecU hoot a tpicial Mirtsl. 

Ore CoBseBPOTiDEirTs leill, mt tnal, txaat our ng- 
yMaig to Ihtm, both for their nikeM ni veil ae ovr men— 

I. Tliiit tlug ilvtuld trrile clearly and diitimcOy — and an 
om tide of (tie piper onlj- — more uptciaBw proper names 
ami worda and phrases of tchick an ixtJanation nag hi 
remind. Ife eaitnot laiaerlaju loptaxle out yehat a Oar- 
mpandrtit doa not think leorth lAe trouble of writing 

II. TliatlaalleoaamiadiimiiAouldbengixedtiename 
and addreu of lAc tender, nnt neceuarily for publicatian, 
bwt Of a gnarantee of goad ftntb^ 

III. not QooUtians ikonld be verified by prnite re- 
'a edition, ehapter, and page ; and reference* (0 

'■t,t!oliant, and page. 
, nti aho reply to Qaeries rniuld add to 
tiktir oUigalion bp prrrite referei ' 

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IK, Fleiit Street (Comer of Cliuieer7 Lane). 

TEMPLE ENVEliOFE. vlUi Blfh Iiuet Flip. 1i. pu UO. 
rOOMCAP^Hnd^Bidi OiiUldH,ei. >>'. p« nun. 



Cnet DiH cninAvd fl 


llini In i«lHiHniK»h.oliTiUlivllH Uifiu ^ Mdf ru > Mirf 
boQk, ud tb4lriCMTeiik«mafliu»HuiUTitDanlnaaTcrfttAbI«.— Tobc«ralMl,W. DnwlnfrTliM. 

LITERARY MACHINB — A raniMkable loien- 
I* be«B Htcat4d.vUch tIII tnaUi ■ par»n(aFHdud 


TEETH. ludviUumi miim Vina, or UMnwi Uier n pBfeilr 
bj the doHft utvcrrer. Hay wUl unt tfiMge eoliMir ortef, m^ 
doet Dotnqkiie tke etftectlM e?Too<t g ear p*nnl evcntl^^ua 
Riiim ttaeuSSi^SI "m^^I nil, Smt^MUi ■•mHuSrB- 

^ Tbe woiaeOaa of NoU-pB|W of ■ nperior kind hajlou been tlic 

^Si m eari^n Ihu^utmH wSSn'iuSln MUliwd i kut Ibh 
conciiukm dM ■« HEB •uMkotonr 10 Hon. FiBmiMB k CooriB, 
sT Fleet SUM!. «bi^MiiiiiHd (s «oUl>n gpnUkH BBdlna Mw 
mutt WM ■Italsid. Sheet MngvinM huju »wuM,tto iher 
hive u lut bcea lUe to Hodw* ■ D(w diKaipttai of HBer.wU^ thir 
pithed ^^n, udVi ntWuiea nllT MniMw lh«t ofSBiS. I? 
ILutt the wrilltii Ih e iiea pteemle m mMjlnwr ttoew m end feng. 

We' M Snlln'uw > t^^B^ uv^l^w^Mil^d In Iti 



Imj. Footisp Qiurtih u 


BEADE&e. lie. 

lATpoH of nipplfiaa 


Xeoent Oplnloaa of tile Pr«mat 


Ika hUlabs (iKtadini U 

NOTES and QUERIES may bt proaired bg ordtr rf 

tvtrr BoolaJltr and Naotman, or ofiht FttKiihtr, 
W. 0. SMITH, a, Wdlington Street, LoDdou, W.C. 

" Leaiuiev, CoAtTT, XSsstxnJ'—AihitaKim, 


Voltuna FIva, i 


hiKllabt xrUb. uid BootUab atot«r7> 

Contnnponjv FortnEl uf MvT Qhhd of Scgti— GuDpcn 

oJUoriniinilh-Iflltr^or L«nl Nr1«m-FU(lit at lam 


Fopntsr Antlqnlttes Bofl Folk Kore. 

Tb< TlnDiDnw FUtdi— Plr 8uptntlUiiD>_Boc(uti-Tcotlll— FriiUj 
UnlndtT— PopuIai Frucb Sooa. 

Sallalli, Ola Poeti7, maa )hr«ina. 

Kwltiih BallAdi— The Mui &>ik«-^^»hcqwuiuki. 

ShftkoncBTt GloiAtlei— Fill fijr AMtumn— BQdJnc- 
Ccumtik-CrleilGiMIie— PniiliiciilOloaur. 

Oenenlocy and BermMry. 

GBlaibomuffU • " Bloc Doj "— Ij* Hqnn Aff tl la Bfnttluuic*— 
J. Bytr BrTiEov— Buiueji on Euttr Id infl— Portr»IH of Qnclhe— 
Evlv Snui<<h PiduTli-CJilIti)' of CwnllKUltEk-Sltoll Of CtaHHy 
CUun_<Vi[:hm. Cimi Ilii; An (iiUc. 

■ooleslaitloal HUlorr. 

OluiioBl AoUqulUas. 

Lubuuin-tVJiililiH on Ronun AlOr— Lcajimikn' TlblM U Biid^I- 
enmlduil InKripUoDi u Hoipe. 

OlFdoniiD Fomui Ourlm Chapel. F<irtimiiaUi-OM WatmJuttr 

BUscellajieoaa Hota*, Qaeriaa, kad XepUe>< 

Tba AmHrnrrlp tba Tair«— Eartj ^citia* of Vfandal'^katorkia— 
— TortuiT al NnreintHiri— KLn of Uia Vliilii— Mam'a Harki— 
Oriiln of the BuiiUHi Clan TmBum-Tla Hanlict-TlH Man Ln Ihi 



*» j^s, H,'i 



a UK. a 
ibun Chi 


Sna^'n Uigd^nB ": ForUaitii. 
_. A StoiT and it< Eipsinioo — Fnun Ha- 
lurch, Weatmoreltnil — A. Bill aottudl/ Pra- 
Westmorelrind Gunpowder-plot DonnI — 

Htiketh —" Bcautin of Bi«lainl »nd Wmles": Pl«Di- 
Lk CMBcole — Chepitow— Chesi in Ennlind »nd Chios— 
Omvaa at th* Duutb Court - Defoe iiid Muichutar 
—The DoniW JoUui* Dien — Drawlogi by John Outer — 
The Fire BaifWit Spire* of Third-Poiuted Dita — Hoo- 
tej-t SDElisb ■• Vithek," &c, S3. 
BBPUBS t— PoneUn Uetnorikl nf Chariw II., ST-Eobert 
" - - -'- ■llmdCeuteniTiui.SB— Pwagemttrtbated 

, n, ra — Uural tVutioK la BMrttoD Church, 

lolk, 411— Biweoe'* " NoreUeti' Llbrair " and Gaorie 
esoT Hknies 1b Inland -'" God Biada 
.dirent Hynin — " Uleroailem ! my 
■nppie aome i - — ■■ Pigs may Fly." te. — Sir Thoama 
Brvwoe: Ircher's Coart — Ths Irish ?l>nitT — Lhv:rd'a 
Iriah M3S, — Puat ProphodBa — lodaiea — " It'H a tii Crj 
to Loch A«B " — lake Dwellinis on Louch Uuch — Dr. 
JnhnUB — - Ji Cold at a Haid^ Kuee' — A. Nuiki; 
T»Je — Negro ProrertH, 4o. W. 
NotM on Roata, M. 

to St.tenaUin, : 
Iforlolk, «l— ~ 
Cruiktiwnk — 

Tbe story of Bluebettrd forms one of a collec- 
tion oftbe popular nurserT talee of France for 
which we are, indebted to Perrault. How far he 
preserved the exact form in which these tales 
must have been related to him hy some old 
cnme, it is, of course, impossible at the present 
tiBM to say. It has been asserted that the story 
is founded <m the atrocities imputed to a certun 
<HUee de Retz, or de Bais, SieiH' do LaTsl,* who 
fired in the rei|ni of Charles VII. of ^'rance ; but 
the eoormitica nf which this nobleman is said to 
kaTe bn^n guilty bear but little resetnbtance to 
the crimes of our hero of the nursery. An inci- 
dent tslatad in the life of 8. Oildas, Abbot of 
Rhuye, in Brittany, in the uith centuiy, ctsnes 
inuch Dearer to the tale <ii4ioh interested ua so 
much in our childish days. A certain Count 
Conomor was food of matrimony, but was not 
dwiroueof being troubled with the consequences; 
•0 whenever his wife-gave sivns of liein^ likely 
to become a mother, he made away with her. 
He was a widower for the fourth, or a* some say 
for the seventh, time, -when be sought -tlie hand 
of Triphyna, daiuhter of Count Ouerech, of 
Vaonee, a yoang lady of great beauty, who had 
been oducated under the eye (^ 8. Oildas. Both 
tbe father and daughter would willingly have 
declined the proffered honour, but Count Cnno- 
mor, who was Childebprt's liptitfinftiii in Hrit- 

[* SwS.&Q.*'l"8.xii.6S^Ei>.] 

tain-, and hftd powerful friends at court, insisted 
in His suit, and gave it to be understood that if his 
demand were not acceded to he was quite ready to 
ezrforce it at the point of the sword. S. Gildas, 
wish(D)r to avert a disaslroua war, undertook to 
intercede, and was auccesHful in bringing about 
the desired alliance, on the condition, however, 
that if Conomor should get tired of his wife he 
should send her back to her father. The wedding 
■vas kept at Vannes with great pomp, and Cnn<J- 
iOT carried off his bride to hia own castle, hut 
^foce many months had elapsed, the countess, 
who was far advanced in her pregnancy, per- 
ceived that her husband's manner towards her 
was entirely changed, and, fearing the fate of bis 
former wives, resolved to take refuye with her 
father. Watching her opportunity, she motmted 
one uorninB; on a fleet horse, and, accompanied by 
a few faithful followers, galloped off in the 
di;«ctaon of Vannes. Her husband was iofoimed 
of her flight, and pursued her. As he gained 
upun her, and ^ peietived that her capture wm 
almost inevitable, she threw herself from her 
horse and endeavoured to conceal herself in Uie 
deep recesses of a forest, but she was diacovered 
by ner brutal lord, who, with one stroke at his 
sword, severed her bead from her body. S.Oildaa, 
on being informed ot what had happened, 
hastened to the spot, replaced the head on ths 
body, and by his prayers restored the lady to life. 
She was shortly afterwards safely delivered of a 
son, who was baptised by S. Uildaa, and called by 
lua name, to which, by way of distinction, was 
afterwards added that of Trecb>meur or Tremeur. 
Sucb is the legend as ti^d by the Sreton haeio- 
grapheis P&re Albert le Grand and Dom Gui- 
Alexis Lobinesu. But now comes a fact, aa 
related by M. Hippolyte Violeau, in a woii en- 
titled FiUnnagei de Bretagae, which renders it 
almost certain that Perrault's tale is founded co 
the legend. He says that in January, 1860, in 
repairing the vanlt of the chapel of S. Nicola*- 
de-'Bieuzy, some ancient frescoes were discovered 
with scenes from the life of S. Triphyna; the 
marriage — the husband taking leave of his wife, 
and entrusting r key to her— a room with an open 
door, through which are seen the corpses of sev^i 
women banging~-4he husband threatening his 
wife while another female is lookini; out of a 
window above — and finally, in the last picture, 
when the husband has placed a halter round the 
neck of his victim, the opportune arrival of ber 
friends,accompaniedbyS. Gildas. Ifthese frescoes 
are reallyof the early date assigned to them, they 
probably represent the popular form of the legend, 
with some additional incidents which hare not 
been thought worthy of record by the faagiogra- 
phers, and there can be no doubt whence the 
nursery tale derives its origin. . 

Qaemaej, Edgas MAOCtrLLOOOi \q 


[4''S.VII. Jak. H. 1 

THE TERE 1S86.' 

Tbu ia no doubt the iRst New TeBtnment cor- 
rected by the tmiBlator, as his mut^rrdom took 
pUce in the year 1536. The text U considerably 
altered from the edition of 1534. This is 
shown at p. 190 of A General Vietti of the Sulory 
of the English Bibk, by Brooke Fobs Westcot^ 
Ad., 1866. 

It is remftrkftble for the peculiar ortbogrsphy 
adopted in the work. 

It is uncertain why this spelling was intro- 
dnced, what it is, or the object of it. 

AndeTSOQ in his Annah of t/te Englidi StbU, 
Tol. i. pp. 466-6, after alluding to this New Testa- 
ment, says : — 

'' But ia It potaible that this coald have bem put of 
lyodale'i occnpidon witbin tha walls of thi cartia at Yil- 
TOrda i While iraning with these docton o( LoDTain on 
tbe one hand, wu he, on the other, at the aime time 
engaged in eanieat pity for the plovghliny and hutband- 
mnn m Gloitrriidref Thi> ortbogriphy being r^;srded 
aa provincial, >o it has been auppoaed. If the conjectora 
he well founded, and Tyndale bimidf had to do with this 
odition, it ia bnt seldom that in the history of any man 
inoh an instance of the true sublime can be prodnced. 
The book has never been anigned )o any An twerp printer; 
bat if Tyndde oslr furnished a liit of words, to be am- 
ployed whenever th^ occarred in the trtoslatioD, the 
rolame could have been printed in Holland or any other 
place In Brabant." 

This sublime conjecture require* evideoce tosbow 
that it is well founded, and if a list of words was 
^ven by Tyndale, the compontor did not follow 
it whenever the words occnr — for many of the 
words so peculiarly spelt occnr bat seldom, others 
more often, some nequently, and othera generally. 

I have made a list of about 300 words ezbi- 
Iriting this spelling. These are an example : — 

1686. 1684. 










































h Be Ben 



























* Thia ia part of the second tllle. Vo copy is knovn 
with a title or imprint. The place wbereit waa printed, 
by whom, or Uie year, is unknown. 


paeyer payrc 

paeyne payne 


taeeklyuge tacklynge 



The second column is the spelling in the New 
Testament of 1634, and sbowa how deugnedly it 
has been altered. 

If any of your readers can give any explana- 
tion or information on thia subject, or snow where 
such spelling has been used at any time, either in 
print or M8., I shall be much obliged by a commu- 
nication being mcide to roe. I belieTe no Bible 
or any other New Testameot exhibits such spell- 
ing, especially with I after a Towel. 

It is much desired that the object should be 
known which Tyndale had in denating so much 
from the spelling then in uae, and that of his pre- 
vious edition of 1534. But if Tvndale did not 
direct this edition to be so priotea, most not this 
spelling have been dengnedty introduced, though 
irregularly used, by Uie person who superintended 
the edition P Funois Frt. 

Catham, Bristol. 


It has often struck me as a blemish, and some- 
times Bs an absurdity, that novelists, poets, and 
diamatiats Hhould so irequentlv adopt names sig' 
nificative of character. Sucn a practice often 
" lets the cat out of the bag," and enables us to 
guess at the lUnotietnent of a etory. In a farce or 
in an autobiographical form of late, where tha lead- 
iug personage is so^, we may excuse or even 
tolerate Steady, Diddler, Greedy, Qraball, Pry, 
MulSncap, Easy, and such like. But where the 
hero ia a family man or woman, the adoption o! 
such names becomes in general an absurdity. 
There is no objection to " Mrs. Malaorop " ; but 
if that learned lady had posaessad relatives who 
figured as dramatis persona and spoke good 
" tdng'B ikiglish," the name so appropriate to her 
wonll have been an absurdity for them. Sheridan 
certainly erred when, in the School for Scandal, 
he adopted thenameof "Surftice"} itwasa good 
one for that surface-fellow, the sneaking, canting, 
hypocritical, saUimental Joseph ( but it becomes 
A bad and inappropriate name when we find it 
borne by hia open-hearted, generous, noble 

In Warren's novel, Ten Thoasmd a Year, we 
have a " Mr. Tittlebat Titmouse." The name is an 

«•* S. TIL JA». 1 




•bsuidit? nltogetber. No one, uot evea a Hoi- 
ton ihop-walkar or a taUymui's cotrnter-juiuper, 
could bftve had such an sppellatiTe. But wfaeu, 
in a subeequeat part of the aame tale, the author 
u neeeedtated to give a pedigree, the suniame of 
Titmoiue borne bj esquirea and man of high 
ttnnlj becomes perfectly ridiculoua and unna- 
tund. The name of Smith, Broirn, Joaee, or any 
of our aumeroQS loni, would huve been infinitely 
better. Our old itandard uoveliate avoided sach 
"tell-tale " names. Harlowe, Andrewt^ Qraudison, 
Tiim, Jones, Adams, &C., are quite uneiception- 
able. IKckens in general keeps clear of significa- 
tivee. Pickwick, Weller, SnodgraaB, Nicklabj, 
Gamp, Brodie, Squeers, Dombej, Mautalini, ' 
these were aB genuine surnames, and there is no 
impropiie^ in their adoption, but quite the con- 
tnry. Miss Braddon (of whose " sensHtioQ " 
tales I am no admirer) never adopts ugoificative 
names for her heroes and heroines. 

The clasiical Dame.i in use b; poets and others 
of the last ceatucj were learned abaurdities, aud 
of course thoroughly UD-English. Huidis in his 
ViUaffe Cur(fy has "the Reverend AxUaor"'* 
Hurdis is much neglected, and moat undeservedly 
•o. IJe was B genuine poet of the Cowper or 
didactic schooL The ViUa^ Curate contains 
aome exquisite English descriptive scenes that are 
only inferior to thote m The Ttuk. But the 
poems of Hurdis are sadly marred by the Qreek 
and Latin derivatives. However, such names have 
■n advantage otoc Surfaces and Titmouiies. To 
the Dnleamed (classically), who always form the 
majority, they convey no meaning whatever. 

Stbf&ek Jacxsom. 

In or bef<«o the year 1836, and subseqnentij, 
there appt^«d in JViuei''4 Magatine a series of 
cAricatiiree and characteriatic portraits of literary 
men, contemporary or recentiy deceased. I have 
no idea whetner the following list is complete, or 
approaching completeness, or whether it can only 
be called a selection. But it may interest your 
Kaden if you can find room for it, and I should 
much like to koow what additions ought to be 
made to it. Those portraits which I hare marked 
* bear the name of Alfred Croquis (Hnclise); 
thoae marked t have a cipher composed of A and 
C in Roman cRpilals; those marKed t hn^o no 
aniM's mark, but are undiatinguishabte in style, 
■mner, or merit £rom Maclise's portraits. All the 

abova ai« printed on toned paper ; those marked 
S and II are on paper of a yellower tint, and I think 
form a later series. With one or two exceptions 
they seem to me of inferior merit, and to t>e in 
imitation of Haclise'a style and manner. The ' 
former are without mark, and the tatter have 
what I take to be a monogram composed of the 
letters W and R in script hand. By whom were 
the various classes I hare indicated executed P 
There are also several extenrive groups of por- 
traits. That of "The FrBserians''^haa no marit, 
but it is known to he by Maclise. See Theodore 
Taylor's Thackerm/ of a Hwmouriat. I am sorry 
I have not a reference to the page. The author 
refers to Mahony (Father Prout) as harinff writ- 
ten an account of this picture in 1850. Wnere is 
this account to be found P The group entitled 
"A Few of our F.S.A.s" bears the name of 
Alfred Croquis. That of "Regina's Maids of 
Honour" has no name, and differs very much in 
mauuer from the others. Who was the artist 9 

Ainawortb, W. H.* 
Beranger, J. P. de.I 
BIcaaingtOD, Coantesg i 
Bowlei, Rev. W. L.J 

Lochhart, J. G.§ 

Lode?, Edmund, t 
Lyndhurau Lord-t 
KKnisli, R,t 
MsRiDn. Dr.! 
Martineau, Hamet* 
Mitrord, Mary R.ll 
Moir, D. M.' 
Uoleavortb, W.t 
Moore, Thomas.§ 
MoDtgomeri', Rob«rt.t 
MorRsn, Lady.t 

Buckstone, i. B,t 

Balwer, Sir E, U* 

Campbell. Tbos-g 

Carljle, Thomag.' 

Cobbel^ Wiliiam-J 

Colarirlge, S. T.' 

Croker, T. Crofloo.S 

Croker, J. wa»on J 

Croikahank, G.' 

CuDDlngham, Allan .* 

DcTmeba r Cwio,DonT.§ OBrlen, Henri-. 

Disraeli, I.* —'■ " ■ - 

Duraeli, B.* 

D'Oreay, Coantf 

Dunlop, W.* 

Egerton, L«rd FrancU.^ 

Farsdsy, MichaeLJ 

Gait, John.g 

GImg, Ker. G. R.f 

Godwin, WiUiaaut 

Goelbe, J. W.t 

Hall, Anna Maria.! 

IlitI, Thomu.' 

Uobhonae, J. C.% 

Hogg, Jamea.* 

Hook, Theodora E.* 

Hant, Leigfa.* 

Irving, Waatdngton.* 

Jerdan, W,§ 

' This is a eoDimon Italian name, and is borne b.v at 
baat one patridan bmllr in Tnauny. We find a ni/. 
fmtr or the name in Florence. 

■ Faacv an aanoancnaent In 7Ae Tima that Sir 

BSiUnod Snooki had presented ■■ the Reverand Anu. 
Mf ' to the living of Fodl^-eom-Pii 
M bM BFpoinled Bidiap of Dahonwy 1 

Snowlee, J. ^ 
Lamb, Charles % 
Landon, L, E.* 
Lardoer, Dr.* 

MunHer, Earl of.§ 
Norton, Hon. Mn.1 
OBrlen, Henrj-.l 
O'Connell and Sheil.* 
PUce, Francis.! 
PoTter, Jane-t 
KDger^ SamaeLS 
Rosco*. William.* 
Rom, Captain.* 
RiUMll, Lord John.t 
Sadler, M. TJ 
Scott, Sir Walter.g 
Smitb, Jauiea.J 
Smith, Sydney .t 
Soane, Sir John.! 
Talleyrand, CM. de.* 
Thorbum, Graatt 
Ude, L. E.' 
Watla, Alaiic A.t 
icotl, C. M.* 

Wordaworth, WilUam.* 
Tydni Pooh- Poab.oBT man 

J. F. M. 



[("■S-TII. Jis. U,7i. 

A SnBt ADD ITS EzrumoiT.— 

'A Seu Xedt efireping a Priumtr uadtr Stttraint. — 
A FrnKhmin, who bad been stvenl vem eonflnvd for 
dsbt is tba Fl«et PnMO, fbood Mm»elf' w> mncH (t home 
within its walls, and wu withal nt M bimilen aad in- 
offensive B character, that the jailor ooouionally p«^ 
mttted him to upend his erenings abroad willioat any 
spprebeoaloi] of the Ibrfettnn ot hia verbal (nKacemeot. 
Uia little eaniinga as a Jack-of-all-trada cniAlal bim to 
form nvenl pot^boaw connections ; and tb*M led bim 
hy degreeB to b« len xid leu punctaal ia his retun at 
the appointed time. ' I'll (ell j-ou what it it, Hounwer,' 
at length wid tbe jailor to him ; ' you are a Rood fellow, 
but I am arraid joa bave \Mdy got into bad com] 

10 I t 

:b for ( 


e, I shall IH 

necenity of locking yaa out altogether.'" — Smiepaigi of 
ng Shidf,ji. 137. Edlob. 1824. 

Tbn Mr. Wcller tella in nesiij two pnges of 
" Uie little (tirtr-ffKed man in the brown coaL" 

" At last he bexsn to get so precioos jolty that ha did 
not know bow (be lime vent, or care ncthin at alt about 
it. and he woa getting later and later, till one ni^bt, aa 
his old friend wos Jaet a abutting the gate — had turned 
tbe ker. in fact — Ite come up. 'Hold bard. Bill.' be 
atya. ' Wot, aist you come in yet, Twentv P ' says the 
tumkev. 'I thoughtyonwasin long ago.' > No, I wasn't.' 
says the little man, with a smite. 'Well, then. I'll tell 
you what it is. my friend,' aavs the turnkey, openinE the 
gate weiyslow and sulky, ' it's my opinion that you have 
got into bad company o' late, which I'm wery sorry to 
Bee. Kow I don't wish to do anvthing harsh,' he saj-s, 
■ but if you cant confine yourself to steady circlefi, and 

■lanJlDg there I'll shut you out altogether.' lie little 
man was seized with a wiulent fit o' trembling, and never 
went ontndp the prison walla arterwarda." — Tht Pickiricli 
Papm, p. 4ii3. Load. 1837. 

Garrick CI oh. 
Fbou HEVERsnAK Cnrncn, WEanioitr.xiMD. 

" To labor I waa bom i I hore, and by that forme 
1 bore lo earth, to earth I straigt was borne." 


A Bill actuai-lt Pri!sentei). — 

" The Rev. C. Marriott to John Knapp ofCotosbach. 

Interpretation. — Tbe first wheelbarrow delivered 
was found "wantiiig," and "a {he) would not 
do"; the mcotid, on an improTed principlw, wai 
up to contract and wonld do. The account is 
made out on our familj-kwjer'e princ^ile, of 
sbowinff how many items might bave bean 
chuged for thatare forborne. 

MooBLARD Lad. 

" I pray yon remember Ibe Gth of Noveniber, 
Gunpowder-treason and plot. 
The king and his train had like to be slain — 
1 hone this dav 'II ne'er be forgoL 

I hop* yoo'l 

All tha boys, all the boys, let the bells ting ! 
All tbe b^ all the bor*. God aava 1*ie king ! 
A stick an4 a sMin for SJneJmta'a Sake,— 

Nov. 1, 18JS. 

The Pbophbcim of Thohab MAR'n^.— It will 
be remembered by aome readers of " N. h Q." 
that in tbe year 1616 Thomas Martin, a labouring 
man of La Beauce, had a priTete audience m 
Louis XVirr., in which he told the king in proof 
of bis mission a secret known to the king kfone ; 
that he also warned him not t« attempt a coro- 
nation, and delivered important admonitdona to 
him for his future government, one of which re- 
lated to the suppression of servile work,' and the 
BHDctification of Sundaya and hondaya. The 
whole account may be seen in the work en- 
titled Le Pa»*i a TAvenir, published in 1832. 
But my present purpose is to draw attention to 
one reDiaikahle prediction, trhich realty seems 
now to be approaching ite accomplishment I 
give it in the words of the aboye work: — 

"Le mardi, 12 mars (I81G), snr le» sept heures da 
matin, -comme Martin finissait de a'babiller, I'Ange se 
montra pr^ de la fenetre et lul parla ainsi : 'On ne veut 
rien ^ire de ce ((<ie je dis : plusieuiB vllles de Fran» 
seront d^tmitea ; il n'y restera pan pierre sur pierre ; la 
France seta en prole &* tons lea malbeurs ; d'on iisa on 
tombcra dans un anire.' " — Chap. li. p. 2i. 

P. C. H. 

TnoxAs Hoos. — Aa tbe literaiy reputation of 
every genuine poet sboold be jealously guarded 
by tlie public against incorrect quotations, may I 

' whether the fallowing, which appeared in the 
wday Review (p. 837, Dec. 31, 18/0)— 

Satwdai/ h 

Amongst various readings I do not consider 
that, in a point of rhythm, any altemtMB is re- 
quired in this instance. 

This reminds me of an emendation of tbe 
Complma tf liatuft ithKit an editor iubMJtiited 
for — 

" Can any following spring revira 

Tbe aahes of the nm.'* 
" No aeCMnJ^ruj) can a'ar rarlve." 
Again, in Innes's Bhetoricrd Clau-Book' we 
find the following alterations in Campbell's 
HokenJitidcn : — 

" Can pierce the att clouds, rolling don." 
" And eiwry (w/beneath Ihair feat 

Shall be a aoUier'B ot 

. ,OOi 


* London : Ltmbinl, ISM 

• a VIL JiX 14, Tl-] 



Ux. PuiKTH A PBOpaEi. — In the nnmbei of 
PmiA for April 7, 1800, then b one of Mi. Ten- 
niel'd inimitahT a cftrtoons, abont which thete 
■hoDld be a note in " N. £ Q." It it entitled " A 
QlimpM of the Futnre. A Probable and Large 
Importstiaii of Foreign Bags," and repreaents 
Eing BomlM of Naples (dethroned in. Sept I860), 
napoleon IIL, and the Pope landing in this 
oonntcy in the ver; seedieat of attires. Although 
Englimcl has not jet had the bononr of receiving 
these nnfertuBate monaichs, there ia no telling 
how «>on she may hare. The following ia one of 
the Teiees accompanjing the cartoon ; — 

"The tint will come oken diwontent 
Win OTvrtiirinr yoar ^wcimnerTt ; 
Of>idJMtairiKny«arnee«d — ' 


, rebel, and kkk you oi 

C. W. S. 


In the Eteninp Standard of Dec. 24, 1870, occurs 
tbefoIIowiiiBiDtereeUngparngTaph,wbich I should 
imBgine had been transcribed from some Ame- 
rican paper ; — 

" Tliemuiiuof I.ad7FeQwick,wircaftlie Bntgova- 
nor indchiefland owner of Ooimecliciit, have been longlit 
for and recovered at Old Say brook* in thnt state. Sbewas 
the first white woman buried in the state, and the iater- 
meat look place 222 years if-o, near the junctionof tbe 
ConDecticot river with the Sound, on Sajbrook Point. 
An old rude roonnment of brown rtone marked the reputed 
apot of her sepnltnre ; but mch had been (be chant^s In 
toe bank br the abifting of the channel, thai it was 
dcDbled 1^ many if the remains rested beneath. Sixfert 
bdow the sarface the skelcLon was found, nearly perf.fct. 
Thetaetfa were still sound j the sknil annsuolly targe i 
whilit flu rest of the frame indicated a lady of slender 
manU, ndthehalr, still partly in curl^ and retaining its 
bri^it pUen hue, gave support to the tiadltiiuisof her 
laiii biMlj Therelieswere plicediu a baudiome oofflo, 
covered with black cloth, and taken to (be n«ghbouring 
coiKtery. The bells were tolled for her for the Srst time 
wben ber banes ver« removed from tbeir long r«sting> 
fiaa, Arat her tntjal there eooJd bare been no requiem 
nr the noble lady, unkas it was tha war-whoop of the 
wild Indian. Her hoiltaiid, aOer her death, returned to 
England, and sat at one of the judges on tlie trial of 

Who was this ladyp was ebe the wife of 
George Fenwick, Esq., who served with diatdnction 
<m the nde of parliament, and was nominated one 
of tha Idng'a judges, but declined taking any part 
in the proceedings ? The Fenwicks were a very 
mnneroua and iinluentiBl family in Northnmber- 
Ind, and the baronetcy became extinct by the 
execation t of Sir John Fenwick for high treaaon 
ia the reign of King William m. HewBdbniied 
in die church of St Uartin's-in-the-Fielda, but 

* Ba^nmk, n ealM from Lords Say and Sele, md 
BndU, priaB^dnifMMBB. 

♦ Ob Jaaoafy &, IflSK. 

Lady Usiy, his wife, wm interred with Her fiuoilv 
—the Howards, Earla of Carlisle— in the nortn 

aide of tbe choir in York Minster. On one of 
the columna of a monument to Charles Earl of 
Coiliale is an inecription commemorative of 5ii 
John Fenwick and his children, aurmounted by 
bis crest and arms ; per fesa gules and argent, mx 
martlets ; crest, a pntsnix in flames ppr. gt^ied 
with a mural crown, countercharged; motto, 
"Peritnl ViY»t" 

An inscriptioii, in tbe middle of the same monu- 
ment in York Minster, conimemoratea Lady Moiy 
Fenwick, who died in 1706 i and at Castle Howard, 
near Mslton, ia a portrait of the some lady. Sir 
John is aaid to hare read KiUtng no Murder before 
engaging in his treasonable practicea, and, though 
there can be little doubt of his guilt, yet the mode 
of procedure wliich produced his conviction was 

I unjust. An inault, which Sir John Fenwick had 
once offered to Queen Mary, is said to have been 

' ever noforfrotten and unforgiven by King Wil- 
liam III. Macaulay observes, in reference to this 

" Bat loTtn after her death, i 

le had re 

rained bis insolen 

le when he had 

le found 
, the most 

by (eiribls proof that of all t 

desperate assassins not excepted, b 

whom William felt an intense jjerouiim aycismu. — 

Halmy of England, iv. 84, edition of 1856. 

Jons PiCKPOBB, M.A. 
Bolton Percy, near TadcasUr. 


TiUDinoKS. — In the Flat Holme in the Bristol 
Channel are three "unknown graves'' which tm- 

liition aasigna to the murderers of Archbishop 
A'Beekett, and I should be glad to know on whi 
authority. The legend runs that after the bloody 
deed the asaasaiaa fled to a remote put of Somar- 
setahire, and there built an abbey. What abbey F 
I have often thought that an "interesting boiA 
could be made of Someraetaliire traditions, for I 
know of no English county richer in historical 
Bseoeiations. from those of King Arthur's day to 

i. TowiraBKUD Mayee. 

' King " Monmouth's. 

Blohmond, S. W. 

AiroimiouB. — In 1820 was puWlihed Botne w 
the Kmetemth Century StriM of LetUn. 
3 vols. Mr. Bohn, in his edition of Lotmdu, 
nndertfae haBd"Kome,"attribatesittoSG8eE. A. 
Wal^e, afterwarda Mrs. Eaton, Under the head 
"Woldie," he Mya that Miss E. A-Waldia's sister, 
Charlotw A. Waldie, who afterwards married 
Mr. Eaton, wrote the book. AIQbone givea Misa 
Chai^otta E. Eaton aa the aaUkoi. Which is 
right P IvAH. 

AuTHOB VUTTES. — Who is the antborof tfce 
hymn, "Gnide ns, thou great Jehovah "P^In 



[4'k8.Vll. Jab. H,7i. 

three of mj hjran books the author ie ^ven 
reepectiTelTBS " Oliver," " Williams," iiod " Robin- 
son " Y. 8. M. 

[Hincr.iDhis Sliaeri and Sowi of Ih Oiurch (p, 23), 
tays that ttii» h^mii u Ihnii the Welah of William Wil- 
liama. The truulatian boa been sometlmea attribatcd 
lo « W. Eniu^ED. " N. 4 Q."] 

HuAK BI.&CELEACH, aliai HuAS Heskeib. 
Hftr^, in his edition of Le Neve, seta down theee 
two Bishops of SodoT and Miu as the same pei^ 
eon; and yet it cnn hardljr be so. Hesketh is 
the name of a county Eitmilj of some celebritj' ; 
Blackleacb is comparatirelj unknown to fame, 
though not an uncommon name in some parts of 
Lancashire. Blackleacb is mentioned in tba will 
of Sir William FfaiinKton, Knt, which bears 
date May S3, 'l£OI, and was proved on the lost 
daj of December the same Tear, under the style 
of "the ReT'end flader in God Van BUkelache, 
Bishop of Man." (Worden Evidences, cited in 
Zancathire Chaatrieii, vol. ii. p. 183, Chet. Soc. Ix.) 
Htian, without the surname of Hesketh or Black- 
leach, is mentioned under dat« of Oct. 31, 1509, 
by Geoffrey, Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry, 
as Bishop of Zodor. (Lane. Chant., vol. i, p. 107, 
dtin({ Reg. Blythe, Ijchf, p. 96.) On the au- 
thority of the same register, Huan Hesketh was 
only a chantry priest at the cbapel of St Maiy, 
Bufford, in 1S06, when Blackleacb was already 
a bishop. In 1C07 Alyce Ilolte, of Chesham, 
cousin to his mother, bequeathed to him " a piece 
of embTHtbery " which (uie had made for a cope, 
whilst be was still serving the cbantry chapel at 
RufTord. In 1622, hovever, Thomas, second Earl 
of Derby, constituted his trusty friend Sir Hugh 
Hesketb, Bishop of Man, one of his executors. 
(Lane. Chant., i. 160, citing Brydge's Peerage, iii. 
698.) Flower's Vuitation of Laneathire, recently 

giblisbed by the Chet. Soc, voL lixii. p. 80, calfs 
ishop Hesketh Wiltiam, and makes his motber 
to be Grace, daughter of Fhyton of Qawsewocth, 
county Cheater, Ent. This is quite at variance 
with the Hesketh pedigree and with the state- 
ment published in " N. & Q." April 23, 1863, No. 
102, p. 400. I shall be obliged by any elucidation 
of these difficulties. A. E. L. 

"BKinmsoFEir&UND AND Walk": Pi-Aiia. 
I diould be greatly <^liged if any of your cor* 
respondents could inform me of the possessor of 
the plates from which the plans accompanying 
this celelmted book ware worked, or any portion 
of them. W. G. F, 

La CaSACOLE. — What was the arracoJtff After 
the memorable interview of the confederate nobles 
with the Duchess of Parma, in 1566, Motley 
gtates that they left the room " making what is 
called the caracole, in token of reverence." He 
n^n to the original of the Pontua Fayen MS3. : 
"toumoyuiB et^MUU Itt eoracole devant ladite 
Dune." O. S. A. 

CoEPaiOT. — Chepitow is called in Domesday 
Book Etlrighoiet, alias Str^/oMg. What is the 
derivation and meaning? How and when did the 
present (by no means modem) niune arise ? 

C. E. W. 

Chsss m EireiAvn ass Ceisa.— '^'hen was 
chess introduced into England P What is the 
date of its discoveiy in China, or when was it 
first played in China P J. Wason. 

^Dr.Duncan Forbes, professor orOiienlal laaguagfs in 
King's College, contribated a series or papers on (Jl.ess 
to the lltxUmltd Laiulon iVcwi, which were ifterwnrda 
collected in a pamphlet Tor private drenlBtiim. The pro- 
feesor Adopted the conclaskip of Dr. Hvde and Sir Wil- 
liam JoDe«, that "Che« wu invented i Q India, aod thence 
introduced into Persia and other A«i«tii: regiooe during 
the sixth centaty of our era." The origin of the game U 
altogether lost, and it is supposed to have existed for 
several thousand j-ears before the time of its introdoction 
into Peraa, ic ] 

Cdstou op the Dadish ConET. —A. E. W. 
has been informed by a lady once present at a 
state banquet in Detunark that two of the king's 
attendants wear on their heads a sort of mitre, 
the hollow in its centre being filled with natural 
flowers. Can any one ^ve the origin or meaning 
of this singular head-dreas, which seems to be 
an ancient one, or inform A. E. W. if her informa- 
tion is correct P 

Dbfob AKn Masohestbr. — This heading will, I 
think, surprise many ; for no connet^on has, so 
far as I can ascertain, ever existed between the 
cntton ci^ and the famous author of Jiobinicm- 

My friend Mr. John Owen, who is a disciple of 
Robert Patterson, and indeed is well known in 
our Lancashire towns and villages as "Old Mor- 
tality," in the course of his researches amongst 
the Manchester Cathedral registers has come upon 
[try, of which he has sent me the following 

743, Ap. 29. Mereey Defl>^ widow, buried." 
The name is so uncommon— manufactured, it is 
^erally supposed, by the man who has made it 
immortal — thatwe may expect to find the "widow 
buried" at Manchester a relative of the great 
novelist. Perhaps some correspondent vrill be 
able to aadgn her a place in the family tree. 

WuLiAH E, A. Axon. 

Joynson Street, Utrangtways. 

The Donsa Juliaka Dibz.— A celebrated 
Portuguese beauty, to whose influence over the 
Emperor Ahbar and bis grandson. Shah Jahin, 
the Portuguese are said to have been, in a great 
measure, indebted for the territory ceded to them 
by Bah&dur Sh&h of Gujrit. This lady, of 
whose history so little is generally known, was 
captured by a corsair on her vovage to Terceii^ 
~ie of the Amres Islands^ and token to Oonatanti- 
iple, where she was piwchued in the slave mat^ 

4»s,nf. J Aif. It, 11.] 


ket for the Ottoman Emperor Selim 11., and sent 
na » present to Ahb&r, the great Mocbul Einperor 
of India, wbo died a. s. 1605. Wbs ths Dodub 
Juliana Kei tlie motliei of Prince Selim, after- 
ward* Jaiite-gir, and what acnount ie given of 
hn romantic adventursa in tiie Ahwdl-i-Bibi 
JtMaui, traduite par Edward Henry Palmer, St. 
Jolin'a Colluce, Cambridi^. " NouTellea Annslea 
des Voyages," Mai, 1865. B. R. W. Ems. 

Sureno, near Eieter. 

DBiiwnas bt John Ckbter. — Id whose pog- 
seasioo are the twenty-seven volnmes of drawings 
mada by this antiquary between 1764 and 1817, 
two Tolumea of which were exhibited by the late 
John Britton, F.aA., to the Society of Anti- 
qnarieain Janel646P They were valued by him 
ttt one hundred gnineaa. W. P. 

Thk Fits Ekolibh Spibes or THnti>-Foi]nBD 
Patb. — The Suuex Expftu, in describing the 
recent injury by lightning to Hartfield spire in 
that county, states : — 

" Tb« i|nrs ii one of five jn England that an clearly 
of third-pointed date, broad spine, a.d. 1377." 

Can any ooirespondeot inform me where are 
the four othen alluded to P 

THOiijLa E. WiuraioTON. 

Hbhibt's EsoLiflH "Vathek." — It is, of 
conne, gBnei&lly known that Beckford wrot« his 
AnUan story m French. Mr. Timtis, in his 
En^ith Eeewtrica and Eaxntricitiet, art. "The 
Be^ords and Fonthill," p. 4, says : "An English 
translation of the work aiterwaids appeared, the 
•othor of which Beckford said he never knew ; 
he thon((Iit it tolerably well done." On reading 
the Rev. J. Wood Warter's Seledioni from the 
LeUert of Sobert Smdhey, 1 find in a letter from 
Southey to Miss Barker (vol. i p. 303) that the 
" EbgUsh translation is byUr. Henley, who has 
added some of the most learned notes that ever 

Speared in any book whatever." Who was Mr. 
mley? I suppose it is his translation which 
the editor (Mr. Hain Friswell) of the " Bnyard 
Series " edition of Vathek has reproduced ? 

8. B. TowNSHBHD Mater. 

a, s. w. 

Charlss Lamb's Complbtb Corkbbpoiidbncb 
ADD WoBEB. — In I86S Messrs. Mozon issued vol. 
i. of Lamb's LeUert and Workt, to which was 
prefixed an essay "On the Genius of Lamb," by 
Mr. G. A. Sala, and it was stated that three more 
▼olames would complete the publication. After 
the lapse of raore than a year, Messrs. Moxon 
iaaned I^unh's Conwilete Qnretponderme and Worke, 
in four Tola., and I naturally supposed that I had 
bat to purchase vols, ii., iii., and iv. to complete 
mj Mt. Judge of my surprise on finding that 
for Ur. Sala's essay in vol. i. has been substituted 
a tiiagTaphical preface by Mr. Thomns Purnell — 

making the 1S70 edition of Lemb difibRnt IVom 
that begun in 1868, of which I am told that a 
goodly number were sold, so that there are many 
persons in m^ predicament. I am informed, on 
the best possible authority, that the vol. i. issued 
in 1868 was edited by Mr. W. Oarew Hazlitt. Is 
that the case with the four volumes published in 
1870 ? If not, why not P Surely the purchaaers 
of the 1868 volume have a right to Imow the 
reasons for the publishers' change of purpose. I 
do but express the surprise end annoyance of 
many of Lamb's admirers, who would like some 
Und of explanation given through " N. & Q." 

Bichmond, S. W. 

Nbalx iroT O'N&ALE: Taylor itoi Tatlodr. 
Can any of your conespondents explain why it 
happens that the families of the Earl of Aid- 
borough, Lord Dunalley, and Mr. Bayly of Deba- 
borough, CO. Tipperary, describe themselves as 
being descended from Archdeacon Benjumin 
O'Nenle instead of Neale — the archdeacon's real 
nameP The archdeacon was bom in 1661, the 
son of Constantine Neale, Esq. (whose will, dated 
April 20, 1692, was proved Feb. 2, 169j), the 
grantee of estates in the county of Wexford, 
Feb. 1, 19 Cbas. II.— he being then a merchant in 
Dublin. The archdeacon entered Trinity College, 
Dublin, May 12, I67fl, as Benjamin Neale. Ho 
married Hannah Paul (Man. Sett., Feb. 8, 16D9), 
and had issue two dau^ten, vix. I. Deborah, mar- 
ried first John Bayly, Esq., and, secondly, Henry 
Prittie, Esq., by whom she was mother of the 
first Lord Dunalley ; and 2. Martha, married John 
Stratford, Esq., created Lord Ballinglass and Earl 
of Aldbotough. The archdeacon's vrill wbs dated 
Dec. SO, 1732, and administration wasobtainedto 
him Nov. 30, 1741. Not only did Constantine and 
his son call themselves " Neale " all through their 
lives, but various deeds and documents executed 
both by them and by Messrs. Stratford and Bayly 
recognise that to be the family name. One of the 
sons of Mr. and Mrs. Bayly was called to the 
Irish bar in 1746 by the name of Benjamin Neale 
Bayly ; and his eldest son, of the same name, 
levied a fine in 1768. Again, the present Mar- 
quess of Headford has changed his name from 
Taylor, as it always was, to "Taylonr," which 
spelling was previously unknown in Us family. 

OitBRi!.— Can any one refer me to an account 
of this game, and how played P Pope's descriplioo 
of it is magnificent (in the third canto of Ttope 
nf the Lock), but at the same time I at least am 
ignorant why the ace of a suit should be captured 
by the king, for we are told the Utter 

" FaUa like thunder on the prostrate aea." 

J. a Udal. 


[i^S. TII. J*». Itll. 

" A P*Bxr ni A Paeloite." — In the Ettaj/s of 
Eka, Charles Lamb uses the foIloiriD; qnotatdon 
in his " Ciupter on Ears " : — 

All ralflot, and all dunned." 
From whence ia the quotation taken ? 

0. SxmsRTH. 

[Tbe linea ttn made up from ■ at 
Peter Btll («d. 1813), bat whiah « 
laCflr editions ; — 

But M voQ b; their b 

u \a Tordsworth') 


Peabson 07 KiPFEirBoss.— I should be obliged 
to any correapoudeat who would gire me mat 

ErtioD of the pedioTee of this famil; which em- 
tcea the period between IfiSO and 1680, also 
Kay other pedigrees of the saote name in Scotland, 
between thoae dates, with coats of anng, &c. Mj 
object is to identify an impaled coat on an andeut 
house in the neighbourhood of Edinbuigii, the 
impalement of which I believe t^i be that of 
Pearson ; but I am unable to account for the 
match which it indicates. I published in the 
Oentleman'M Magisxat, a few fears unoe, * full 
particulars of the above armorial sculpture, but 
am unable at present to give the correct reference 
to the No. in which it appeared. Sp. 

Out Peiuts op STTOTBHENaE. — Very lately an 
old print of Stonehenge has come into my possea- 
sion, contuning two Tiews, one looking irom the 
west, and the other from the sonth. Jndging 
from the coatumea and equipage of the Tisitors, 
and the ^neral style of the engravinff, it seems to 
ma that it must date at least from tbe early part 
of the last century. I have in my collection tibwb 
taken in 1776 and 1784, but these are evidently 
much more modem than the other. In the view 
lookirig from tbe south, the single atone known 
as the " Friar's heel " can be seen on the right 
hand. Other outlying stones an also visible in 
both views. 

Could any reader of "N. & Q." acquainted 
with the Kteraiy and artistic history of this the 
greatest group of our British prehistoric stone 
remains enlighten mo as to the date of publica- 
tion of this engraving P Perhaps its identity may 
be recognised by the following description. Each 
view has an independent beading, the upp er being 
" A Prospect of Stonehenm ftom the West," and 
the lower " A Project (f Stoaebenge from the 
South." In a white line between the two views 
ia printed : " Sold by Henry Overton at y* White 
Hotae without Newgate, London." In the lower 
view the artist's name is pven as " D. Loggan 
dolin. et eicndit." Edwin DtmsiK, F.R.A.S. 

MS. Notes nc RALsieH's Hist.— In " N. & Q." 
of Oct. 30, 1869, p. 360, a oorvespondent, W. C. K, 
^tves some very interesting extrada &om MS. 
marginalia in a copy of R^eigh's HUioru ef tke 
World, 1614. WouH W. C. B. very kindly 
allow me to see this volume P 

J. O. Haiuwxll. 

HraioKT OP St. Pancras. — Mr. ^TOliam D. 
Leathart left a MS. in two volumes, of a histoiy 
of tbe parish of Saint Paucras, in the county of 
Middlesex. Mr. W. D. Leathart died in the year 
1663. Could anj[ of your readen inform me in 
whose custody this MS. is now P R. Wadoh. 

Invasioit op SwrrzEKLAUD bt the Ek6LISh. 
In the Book of Datee, 1663, p. 375, it is stated 
that " in 1375' the Swiss repelled an invasion of 
the English bands." In a MS. note in my pos- 
session it is incidentally mentioned that " in 1375 
levan ab Einion ab Gruffydd led an army through 
Germany into Switzerland.'' I presume that 
these two statements allude to the same invasion. 
I have looked into a dozen historical works, but 
I can find no leference whatever to it I desire, 
theiefore, to know where a detailed account of it 
may be found, together with that of the circnm- 
Btannes which occasioned it, as well as of its ra- 
sulL QLkV. 

Latin RnnnNQ Poeu on Wbathkbcocks, — 
Readera of Mr. George Macdonald's new story in 
St. Fault, if they are alio students of " N. 4'Q," 
will have perceived how closely, in the convena— 
tion on weathercocks in chap. zii. he fbllows the 
curious Latin rhyming poem communicated bv 
Cleeicub (D) in June, 1B67. I am glad to call 
attention to this poem, as I wish to adc if tjra 
entire composition ia to be found in any acces^ble 
printed book. Ws. J, Loptik. 

Whale's Km at Soekehto. — Breath the par~ 
tico of a churah at Sorrento there hanga a rio of 
a whale, wiiose hietory I was unable to ascertain, 
the only person said to be acquainted with it 
being absent. The foUowiag is a literal copy of 
an inscription upon a stone tablet fixed to the wall 
opposite the rib. Antonini was bishop of Sor- 

■" Roipin hinc ceti eoslum, 
Admirari mineala 
Ubi nalnni e ventn lenatain 
Matri vndidh 

Ibi vetTum perdidit ati^oc dedit 
Pia todalltu in tropbnsDm erezH." 
Can any of yourinadeis throw light upon tbe 
subject P W. RB. 



i"- S. VII. JiS. H, ■ 




(4* S. tL 501,578.) 
It ia impossible, wiiliout seeing- the dishes in 
qaeation, and even then, to say with certainty 
where they were made, but 1 would attribute 
the one mentioned by W. ¥. H. to be made in 
Staffordshire rathet than Fulhadi. Indeed there 
an no dishes of that kind which we can positively 
Bay were made at Fulham, whereas we have 
several of Staffordshire manufacture. Besides, 
John Dwight's first patent ia dated 1671, and it 
(Ueerte he hath " sett up at Futbam several new 
manufactories." This throws the dish of F. S. A., 
dated ICeO, out of the record altogether. In 1C84 
Bwight of Fulham got hie patent renewed for 
fourteen Tears more, and what he makes is thua 
described in it :— 

" Sererall oev manufiictiirGS or cartlienwues, called bf 
the Dam» of wbite piTgee (pitcbeis), maibled porcelluie 
veuels, nUtBH, uid figure*, and Sne etoae gorges aad vee- 
•dl», never before mule in Eugland or elKwhere ; and 
aUoe diicorered ^ mystery of transpareDt poTceUane, and 
opaeona redd and dar^e coloured paroelUae or abina, and 
Peraiaa wuea, and the mytlcry of tbe Cologne or atone 

the German or^ itself, but a well-infoimad a 
eaa aow readily distinguish it, and refer it to its 
angtoal source. Some years ago Mr. Beynolda 
purchased a moet interesting collection of the 
«Bily prodnctitms of the Fulhun manufactory. It 
^tmeieted. of about twenty-five specimens, wiiich 
had been preserved by aucceeuve members of the 
Dwight family u heirlooms since the period of 
tbeii Bunofaetun, and were sold by the laat re- 
preaenUlive, but there waa not a di^ smonget 
the lot 

Dr. Plot, in hU A'aiural HUlary of Oi/orMire, 
(Oiford, 1677), tells ue that ;— 

It Gilotcue wBie (auch aa d'Alra baltfes,jagg.DOK- 
ICiiu), heretolDrQ only made in Germaoy, and by the Dutch 
ttrought over iotoEiiglaad ia gnat quantities; and hath 
■et up a maonfactore of the s»nx, which (by meChoda 
and e«itrivaacea ofbia oiru, altogether uulike those used 
by the lienttana), in tbtee or four yean' time, he hath 
bnmght U to gnatcr perf«ction than it has attaioed 
wbeie it bath been nsa] for nusy agee, iuaouiueh that the 
eomp«DT of glass-wllers of Loudon, irho are the dealers 
' ' " ■■■ r. hate contracted with the inventor 

S^gllth manufoctuts, BDd nfose ttie 

There an do Fnlluun dishes noted whose dates 
■adoMceaa of mantif^etMie have any resemblance 
to ttat mMtioned by W. F. R., but ^are ne 
Mveral Staffordslur* ones. Shaw'i CAmusfry of 
r*tUrf taUs » t^ TboioM Taft <ua & Sld&fd- 

shire potter about 1680, and a large earthenware 
dish, bearing his name on the border thereof, is in 
the Geological Museum. It has in the centre a 
lioD crowned ; the grotind is buif-coloured, and 
the oreaments laid on ia black and brown-coloured 
"slip." Another dish so marked is in the Bats- 
man Uiiseum, Yolgrave, Derbyshire. It has in 
the centre a half-length crowned portrait of 
Charles II., with a so^tra in each hand, and the 
letters C. R., with a red and black trellis pattern 
OD the border. A Ralph Toft was also a StaiFord^ 
shire potter about the same time, ilis name, with 
the date 1677, is on a dish in the collection of 

black ; in the centre a soldier, in butf jerkin and 
full-bottomed wig, a sword in each hand ; on one 
side a crowned head and bust (Charles 11.); 
chequered ornaments and name on the border. 
William Sana, also mentioned in Shaw's Chemistry 
ofPoUenj, and William Talor, were Staffordshire 

Setters about 1680, and manufactured similar 
ishes. I therefore conclude that the dish men- 
tioned by W. F. R. wae made in Staffordshire. 

I also think that the dish mentioned bv F.S. A., 
of the date 1600, was manufactured at Lambeth. 
In JUrutratioHi of Arts and Manufactures (London, 
1841), by Aitkin, we may read as follows : — 

" It 'a aboot two bnudrad yean ago (about 1S40) aiace 
some Dutch potten came and est^bhed Ihennlves in 
Lambeth, and by degrees a Utile colony itaa fixed in 

it village, possessed of about twenty manufactories, in 


a flounahiiig 

.uv hands iu the various departmeo^ of 
their art till about fifty or sisty years ago ; when the 
potters of StaObrdshire. by their commetciol activity, 
and by tba great iroprovemeats introduced by them u 
Um qaatily of tbeic ware, completely beat ont of (be 
narket tbe LarabcOi ddft manubcturcs." 

The ware made at Lambetii was ptincipally a 
kind of delft with landacapea and Bguxes painted 
in blue. One of the Dutchmen referred to was 

Jrohably Van thmme, wbo obtained a patent in 
676, the preamble to which states — 

" Whereas John Aliens Van Hamme bath bumbly 
represented to ns that he is, in pursuaoce of the enoDonge- 
menthehalb received from our Ambaaudor at the Hague, 

Kingdom, wjtb his a 
rt of making tiles and poreetaae, 
after lie w^' jKaolised in Bel- 



the HiellinK of the inscripUon on the Mah of 
F.S.A. decidedly indicates a Dutch origin rather 
than that of Dr. Dwi^ht, Vicar of Fulbwn, which 
Lyaons, in his Enmrtni, says he was; and hia 
death is Utne ttoticed in tiie obituary of the <?en- 
(fcman'» Magamu for 1737 r— "At Frihun, Dr. 
Swight. He waa the £iBt that fotwd oat tba L 
ii«CTe4 to colour Mrthonwan HbcUofti'* 


[4"S.Tir. J*s. 14.-; 

TtieTs ue Mine verj curious mtittets, to the 
atudent of cenmic vue, connected irith the 
Lambeth pott«rj, but apsce forbids me to allude 
to tbem here. WiLUUC PiHiEitTON, F.S-A. 



(4* S.Ti. 9, 140,203,222.) 

Mr. Oilfin deservea the best tbuilu of all who 

Are interested in the queatdon of loDgevitj for 

the trouble he haa taken in iuTeetigatlDg the case 

of Robert Bowman; and as one who knows by 

Eunful experience the vast amount of time uid 
kboui which eucb iuquiriee entul, I begp to thank 
Mm most heartily. 

I appreciate the good serrice he has done in 
collectinif the informMioD which he bas laid 
before the readers of " N. & Q.," and I am the 
more anxious toarowthis, seeingthat, at the riak 
of being classed among thoee "who are unduly 
burdened with scepticfd minds on this subject," 
I am 80 far from drawing from the evidence 
broug:ht forward by Mb. Gilfih the eoncluBion at 
which he bas arrived—yix., that Robert Bowman 
was "at least one hundred and eighteen yean old 
at the time of his death " — that my doubts upon 
that point are very considerably Btrenrthened. 

So far from confirming or establishing the 
identity of the Robert Bowman baptiaed at Bay- 
triQin the year 1705, with the Robert Bowman 
who died at Inhington in 1823, the evidence 
adduced by Mk. Oilfid seems to me to have a 
directly opposite tendency. Mr. Gilfdi searched 
the Hayton register carefully for fifty or sixty 
yean, and the only baptism bearing directly upon 
the subject is that of Robert Bowmim, baptised 
in 1705; but if this is the baptism of the cen- 
tenarian Robert, tbe same register would, in all 
Cbabilitr, have contained the register of the 
ther Tnomas, said to have been bom either in 
1707 or 1711. Surely tbe abgance of the baptism 
of Thomas leads to the inference that tbe Robert 
baptised was not the brother of Thomas, and 
consequently not the Robert who died at Trth- 

in 1610, aged ninety-nine years, or, as tomt soy, 
one htmdred and one," BAja : "IfRobertBowman's 
age be a delusion and a snare, then is also tbe 
affC of his brother Thomas. Botii men must stand 
or fUl together." I agree with Mr. OiLPflr in 
his premises, but differ in bis coochision. 1 
hold that there is not a particle of evidence as to 
the real age of either of tnem. 

It is much to be regretted that Mr. Qixfqt'b 
endeavouTsto procure the marriage certificate were 
not attended with success ; as, sltbough such cer- 
tiBcate would probably not have shown bis age, 
it might have deacribed the place of bis birth, or 

at all events his then residence. But, in the 
abeence of this document, we gather from the 
tombstone in Irtbiugton churchyard some facta 
connected with bis marriage which deserve con- 
sideration with reference to hb presumed age. In 
the first place.presumingas we mnj,from the birth 
of tbe eldest son in 1760, that Bowman married 
in 1759,* he was fifty-four years of age, while his 
wife, bora in 1726, was twenty-one years younoer, 
being only thirty-three. I do not know whether 
tbe yeomen of Cumberland marry young cr not, 
hut tifty-four is, as a geneial rule, so exceptional 
an age for a man to marry at, that the statement 
is calculated to increase rather than to remove 

But IS not a duo to tbe absence of all evident 
to be found iu a fact which Mr. Gilpir pssses 
over slightly, and on which his informetton is 
probably imperfect. " Bowman," says Mb. Gitpnt, 
" having passed his whole life in the neighbour- 
hood of his birthplace— eroeri a few earhj t/eare 
iptnt in Northumbeiiand." Now may not aU his 
early years have been spent in Northumberland 
(where, if we knew the precise locality, both hie 
baptismal and marriage certificates might be dis- 
covered), and he have removed to Irthinglon on 
his marriage P 

What was the maiden name of Bowman's wife P 
where were their children bom and baptised ? for 
the accounts of Bowman's children are very con- 
tradictory. Dr. Bamea, writing in 1821, says 
" he married at the age of fifty" (which would be 
in 1755) " and had six sons, ^1 of whom are now 
living; the eldest is ^^/ify-nme and the youngest 
forty-teoen, which makes the birth of the eldest 
son to have taken place in 1761, wherese on tbe 
tombstone erected in Irthington churchyard the 
eldest son is described as having " died July 29, 
1844, aged eighty-four Tears " ; according to 
which he muat bare been bom in 1760. 

I am writing just now under great disadvan- 
tages, and indeed should not have written at all, 
but that I feel it is due to Mk. Gihtis to acknow- 
ledge the ptuna be has taken to ascertain the 
truUi, but as in my opmion Mr. Gilpis's evid- 
ence does not sustain bis belief that he baa 
established the fact that Bowman was 118, 1 feel 
bound to point out where I think it defective. 

Mr.'s generosity has, 1 think, tempted 
him to take tbe weaker side; but whatever may 
have infiuenced him, he now deliberately avows 
his belief that Robert Bowman reached the very 
exceptional age of 1 18. I do not say he did not, 
but I do say there is at present not a particle of 

■ I >m aware Dr. Barnea, wTitiue in 1S21, says Bow- 
man married in 1755. vhen be was nftyyean of age ; but 
Ifso, it is curious that so rninvTeaniboiild have elapsed 
bef6rs ttis birth of hia Ant cbild, who, according to one 
■econnt, vu bom in 1760, and to ■nolber in 1761. Tbe 
births of tbe olbgr cbildren fbDowed at short Intervils. 

4*8.TlI.J«r. U,71.j 


eridsDce that ho did to. Thorn who support the 
•TgnineDt that Bonmim was 118 muat piove 
"Eo incumbit prabatio 

aon Qui negmt," ea^s the civil Lhw ; and it inaj be 
addea that the civil Uw ' ...... 

alio lequired that ii 

proportion m the anppoaed fact waSj as in 
ptional and oejond the ordinarj na 

i, exceptional and Mjond the ordinarj nature 
of things, so ought the evidence in support of it 
to be dear, diadnct, and beyond all douot 

WiLLiAH J. Thohs. 
40, St. Occrge'i Square, 5.17. 

(4« 8. yi. 381, 478,) 

Mr. Tew doee not seem to be aware thtt, 
addition to the seven epistles of St. Ignatius 
which are usually accounud genoine, there ~~ 
number which bear hia name, but which noi 
univBTHaUv considered spurious. Amongst these 
ia an epistle to the Fhilippians, and in that epistle 

ichap liii.) occurs the paaswe referred to by 
looKer. These Bpurious epistles are annexed as 
an appendix to The Writing* o/' the Apoitolie 
IhAertj published by Messrs. Clarlr, of Edin- 
bureb, id their " Ante-Niceoe Chiistian Library," 
•ndin the introductory notice to them the trans- 
Utora My : — 

■ coniiilerable time before editors in modem 
1 to discriminate belveea tbe true and tbe irrilings sllribated t» Ignstim. The letters 

first pnblisbed nnder bis name were thoae tbrea wbich 
uiat only in Latin. TbeH came fortb in 149S at Paris, 
being appended to a life of BeckeC, Archbiebop of Can- 
terbuiy. Some tbree jtan later, eleven epistles, com- 
prluDg thoM mentioned bf Koaebins, and four others, 
vere published in Latin, and paasf d tbrougb four or five 
editloa*. In 136 tbe whole of tbs pofeewdly Igoalisn 
epistles were poblished at Cologne m a Lalln venton ; 
and [hia collection also paawd tbroagh severs] edltiona. 
It wu not till 155T that tb« iRoatUn episttes appesred 
for the flnt time In Greek at DilllgeD. After Ibis date, 
man; editloDs cameforth in which tbe protiably gennioe 
were atill mixed np with the certainly spnrioua, tha 

sathorily. Vedellus of Goners first made tbe diatliction 
which ia now univenalli' Accepted, in an edition of theM 
ipistlea which be pnbfished in 1623 ; and be was fol- 
■ — ■' "— '—•■'---' — TT.i... ._j Others, who enleml 
lion of these writings 


which has t>e«n continoeu di 

Mr. Sxtth's logic isrefreshing. Let me suggest 
that he write, in some conspicuous place in his 
Study, in very large letters. Cane "petiiottem 
p rin e ipi i." It may act as a check against the 
perpetration of the worst, though not the moBt 
nocommoD, of all faliaciei. In his obliging paper 
lie first assumes it aa an evident fact that I unow 
notbing of "the epistle to the Fhilippians which 
profeMes to be the work of Ignatius," and then 
asdOMa the, to hu men mind, neceaeaxj conclusion 

that my opinion "would carry more weight "that 
" Ignatius wrote no epistle to the Philippiaoa." 
What kind of reasoning this is 1 wot not. To - 
reverse the case, it might just as well Im said that 
a man's "opinion would carry more weight" who 
should declare that the decretal epistles attributed 
to St. Clement ate forgeries, if he knew something 
of his genuine epistle to the Goriothians. Further, 
Mr. Smith asserts that " Hooker's quotation is 
quite correct." I assert that it is noC. "I copy," 
sava Mb. Smith, "the sentence in fulL" From 
what hook? may I be allowed to ask. For in 
this copy the words tbS iKtirxa appear, but in 
Hooker (Oxford, 1841) they do not, either in tbe 
text or the foot-note. So much for Mr. SHirn'R 

To Mr. R. Mabshaix I tender my best thanks. 
His few remarks (anticipated, as he will see) are 
characterised by the moderation and good temper 
which it is so pleasant to meet with, but against 
which some do so grievously offend. 

As to the character of these euisUes, but a Tery 
small amount of the critical faculty will l>e needed 
to the formation of a right judgment. Forgery is 
00 tbe face of them, and few who have read them 
with any attention will hare much objection to 
endorse the following statement : — 

"Verisimile non est, eaa EuMbinm, si ejus asvo ez- 
aUtisseot. liters potuiiee, sut ab eodem, ri ipai cognilie 
Mtent, prateiiri ;Bedetiam, quia vd ob modnm loqaendi, 
■b EoBsbianlB multnm discrepsntes apparent, vel ob ma- 
teriamdD<:triiue,iiutitatiBetmoribaspoMeriorii Ecclesiv 
— igie eonsoDSi, et Ignatiania Eosebio 

itstione, eaque nimls affectatSi similes. 

Patching Rectory, AniDdel. 

It is not unsuited to the notes wbich have ap- 
peared on the epistie to the Fhilippians, called 
''of S. Ignatius, to state in what manner the 
collections of his epistles are to be regarded. 
There are:— 

1. The shorter recenaon of the seven epistles, 
which are commonly known as tbe genuine 
epistles, which is tbe one in Jacobeon's and 
Hefele's T^ra Apoet. and other recent collec- 

2. The longer, or interpolated, version of the 
van epistles, often cited by early writera. 

3. The Syrisc version, with English translation 
of three of these, with collected extracts from 
others, published by Cureton, Lond. 184S. 

4. The eight spurious epistles, three of wbich 
e only found in Latin. Of these eight Hefele 

observes: "Unanirai doctorum consensu spurisc 
" ibentut." (Pair. Apoit., Tubing. 1847, p. xliii) 
Tbe whole collection, except tbe Syriac, vis., 
_ _!__. f__ jji^ hinger or mterpotated, 

tbe shorter 


[l^aYIl. J*a.l*,7 

and the epunoua epistles, can be Been in tiie 
lidition of L VossJug, Amet. 1646, reprinted Load. 
1880. Ebw. MiBsniLL. 


(4'» S. vi. 542, 577.) 

I have no wish to be contentioua; but the 
subject of tbifl paintiag is too iutereeting to be 
left unded<led; nd I see as ^et no rewon to 
«hange my upiuion. G, A. C. calls attention to a 
feature iu the paiutiuar, upou which, he sa;a, I 
made no obaerration, but it did not escape my 
notice. He observes that — 

" Over the head of tbe liyinR or deceased person is lield 
by an atundant an beialdJc ahield, Che aims upon wliicli 
an unfurtBaaCalf too iiidialinct to be Bccunleiy de- 

The anna, as well as can be made out, appear 
to be those of Sawtree or Saltrev Abbey in 
Huntiugdoiu&ira, to which the atlvowsona of 
eeveml churches in Norfolk were granted, and 
the abbot of which held nanors and hmda in the 
coiinty. But whaterer arms wmb on the ahield 
la, in m^ opinion, of no importance towards the 
elucidation of the puntiDg. 

I am more and more convinced that it repre- 
aents the death of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Two 
«ngela are carrying us her soul to heaven : no 
such presumption of immediate beatitude could 
have been entBrtained of any ordinary individual, 
however ennobled by worldly honours. In the 
next place, as I mentioned, I have seen vanous 
old rqmaentatinis of the death of the B. V. Itf. 
more or less agreeina with the one at Staraton; 
and, at least, two such are in my own possession. 
One of these remarkably coincides ; having the 
three piivileged Apostlea, SS. Peter, James, and 
John, close to the bed, and St. John, as here, 
wearing a eupe, and extending his hands over the 
bed. In the other, the same three are standing 
in the anuie position; St. John, alwava difitin- 
guishable by hia juvenile appearance, 'and here 
also wenring a cope and clasping hia hands. These 
•re bot& woodcuts of the fifteenth centurv. 

I said that I attached no importance to the 
heraldic shield. If we make the very allowable 
supposition that some patron or distinguished 
person was interred beneath the recees, and that 
this naintiog was executed as a pious memorial 
over his tomb, the whole will, I think, be satis- 
factorily e^lained. The B. V. Mary has just 
departed. St. John holds a family, or conventual 
coat of ams toward* his adopted holy Uothor, to 
implore her intercession for the owners of the 
tttOB, or the soul of the pesson interred beneath ; 
«nd St Peter holds a scroU, on wluch the in- 
■criplion seems to have bera " Preror te Haria." 

The last word is still plain j but on any other sup- 
position, howcould it be appropriate ? The femtue 
figure, whom G. A. C. supposes to be coronetted, 
has really no coronet, but merely an ornamental 
head band. She is, in ray opinion, only one of 
the holy viromen attendants on the B. Virgin, per- 
haps meant for Seraphia, who was distinguianed 
as the wife of one of the members of the Sanhe- 
drim, and of whom tradition reports that ahe was 
of about the same age as Mary, and had been long 
and closely connected with the Holy Family. 
There is one object standing before the head of 
the bed, which I cannot explain, because so little 
of it remuus. It looks like a pedeabl, and may 
have supported a lamp, or cb^g-dish, as there 
are what appear to be flames at the top. 

I take thu occadon to correct a mistake I made 
when the drawinar w<m first sent me. I too 
hastily pronounced the coped figure to be St 
Peter; but there can be no doubt that it rerae- 
aents St John. F.C.H. 

F.S. The misprinting of a single word is 
sometimes of much consequence, and therefore I 
must request the readers of "N. ft Q." to correct 
in their copies the misprint at the end of my 
article (p. 542) of the word hand. It ought to 
be head. The hand would he of no value towards 
making out the figure intended, but the head 
would be most important Unfortunately neither 

In a chromolithograph of this painting which I 

have seen, the following letters are quite plun : 
F&OCE, then a hiatus occupying the apace of two 
letters, then a longobardic N with the atraight 
stroke prolonged' upward and stumounted by a 
cross-stroke as if for Kt, then e, then the wxtid 
KARiA, i. e. proce[ds]ste habii. It cannot 
posMbly have been precor te, unless the artist has 
drawn upon his imagiQafion for three characters 
which are very distinctly shown in the chromo- 
lithograph. J. T. F. 
S. KcImj', Brigg. 

Eobcob's " NovKLiBTs' LiBiURi " AN» Gbobsb 
Ceuikshank (4'" S. vi. S43, 428.)— Mb. Wrua 
is substantially correct in what ne says as to 
Georso Cruiksbank'a connection vrith this worl^ 
but ne is in error in supposing the series to 
con^ of mneleea volumes, which is complete 
in seventeen, or those illustrated by the artist 
above-named. It was Mr. Roscoe's fint intention 
that the deugns for the entire series should be 
executed by Strutt ; but, regarding these as a 
feilnre, he renounced his connection with that 
artist on the issue of the second volume, com- 
mencing de Tuao with the des^ns of George Oruik- 
^lank. The two volumes iltastKited by Stautt 
were not hencefbrwsod intended to be nc^oBad 

*» 3. TIL Jas. 1 




as any portion of tho series. Tbu is ^ain : 

tbe amuninceTncsit cited hj your correapandenc 
" that he, G. CTuJkshaidr, 'ueogoged to iUustnts 
the wholt aeries^ " which could al^erwim poseaae 
no BignitictiDoe; and it explainB the ^pareat 
anomidj of two first and two second lolumes. 
Bating th«ae excrescences, iioscoe'a "Novelisla' lA- 
bnrj," in the view of ita editor Thomas Boscoe, 
consisted of setenteen volumes, tbe whole of 
which, without exception, were illustrated by my 
friMid Geoi^ Cruikshank. J, C. HodBB. 

ChanoesofSajtes is Ireland {S'^ S. pamm; 
4*S.Ti.310,42a)— Stuart's^r»nDffA(8T0,ISfewTy, 
1819, p. 201) atatea from Veaey's Statutes, p. 29, 
that in — 

" lie? Forlument enacted that ereiy Iriebman vho 
dwelled amon^l EngluhmeD In tbe coanUes of DobliD, 
Myeth (MeMli), nriel. uid Eildare, should be apparelled 
after tbe English fkahion, and ebould abava the beard 
above the mautb, and take an Englisb soiname daiived 
eithei from a tawi, s colour, on art. science, or office. 
Hence are dtrirad many funil/ names, ancfa aa Snttmi, 

r. Trim. Cork, Blai 

Lck, Bi 

Ctar, Cook, Bnller. &e. Samea thus adopted oere te 
Tunuilted to noateritj under peocltv of forfUtura of 
ffooda, &c^ Tke MwaBgabbana become 'Smitb, tbe Geala 

"God uadk Mas," btc. (4'* S. vi. 345, 428, 
487.) — The replies which your laamed coitb- 
■poodents F. C. H. and Db. Bixoh have kindly 
gnen to my query respecting tiiese qnaint lines 
are Tery noteworthy — flie former as showing that 
they are not pecahar to any one conoty, ond the 
Utter for tbe rsTerential feeling with which they 
wpear to hare been trenured up by the Dutham 
collier. It seems probable that they originated 
amon^ the nun era, for tbe version of the lines 
siqtplifid by Da. Bt^oh — and evidentlr tbe most 
oonect of Uie three given — uumiat^eBnly impliaa 
as smeh ; and tiie &ct of their being popnlat 
with the pitmen of the North, and my hearing 
them in tbe Staflbrdshire colliery district, tends 
also to support thia supposition. May I inquire 
again, have any of your readers ever aeen them in 
pDOt before? F. S. 

Thi Advbst Htmn (A* S. tL 112.)— The cor- 
iMMndent of the Sunday Times, May, 1870, has 
nude a sad blundering statement concerning the 
time of this hymn. " Helms'ey " is an adaptation 
of the melody of a song beginning — 

" Gooidiaa angels now protect me. 
Send to me the joath 1 love,"— 
«iii^ by Ann Catley in The Golden P^pm, a boi- 
lettft aolad at Govsnt Garden Theatre, Feb. 6, 
1773l Mias Cntley wna a celebrated actr^a and 
oiiwer. Ber I^e imd Mtmoirt (a vety ciuioos 
Buakx^l^MiBaAnihrow), isaow faafnu m«. 
^3m toM haaamt foptdat, and :wss scaveiitad 
— '- - ' ' iMM pl^hcMsa nuHiown, and 

inte a hymn-tuna by some zealous low't^uich- 
nuut Vulgarity, and consequent unfitness for 
devotioual porpoees, is the strong characteristic 
of this still (I am sorry to eay) popular tune. 

Eswiiis F. Rlkbadlt. 
■ " HiEBtiSALBM 1 sir HAPFiE Home!" {4"^ S. 
vi. 372, 485,) — ^As a supplement to the histoiy of 
this "song" or hymn, it maybe stated that a 
copy in broadside will be found in tbe Rawlinsou 
Collection of Ballads (Jto, 566, 167) in the Bod- 
leian Library. It is entitled : The true dacription 
of the everlasting toys of Heaven. To the tune of 
O man in deeperaiuin. In two parta, nineteen 
stanzas of eight lines (ao by no means in an abbre- 
viated form), black letter, two woodcuts. " Printed 
for F. Cnles, T. Vare, and J. Wright (between 
1850 and 1670). It begins thua ; — 
■> Jerusalem, mv happy home, 
When shall 1 come to thee ? 
Wheo shall my sorroivs have an end ? 

ThyjojH when shall I see ? 

Where happy haiboor is of saint. 

With sweet and pleasant soyi ; 

Id thee do sorroir ever luund,* 

No grief, no care, no toy I." 

Wu. Chappkll. 
"PloB KAr Flt," bio. (4"' 8. tL 321, aOB.) — 
I did not intend to dtum this proverb as aa IbJnm 
one. I meaat nothing more than that I mat wtth 
h in Italy. I had never heard it in P.nglanH 
Howerar, it n|qwaia to be well known. Wliat is 
the Foglidi form t I wish that Mb. Adbk bad 
given it The same proverbs are so wi Jriy dif- 
AiB«d, that it is imposaible to fix locality. 


When 1 was a " raid" in one of Green's ships, 

a shipmate from WorcsststBhire (Chipping Nor- 
tum, i believe), when asked to do anytibmg he did 
not wish to, would frequently replr by saying t 
" Kgs jniffJit fly, but they're very unlikely birds." 
Bolivar, Mississippi, W. 8. 

Sib Tboxas Bbowkz ; Abcsbk's Con&i (4<^ 
S. vi. 46, 288.)— Hasted, Ireland, and the other 
Kentish historians, all speak vaguely of the owner 
of Aicher'a Court, who passed it to Rouse. They 
ss^, Sir Thomas Browne, or Mr. Thnmaa Browne 
of Loudon, Thomas Broaate, &c. It is to be 
igretted that Mm. Hilton ^a not settled the 
by respendii^ te Us. Euteo's Tery usefid 
&m. I hare seen in Doctor^ Commons 

" I gna, &e. Im tnut, Ao. WhitUd or AnAar'a Caort, 
bonglU by me sf the Bev. Thonaa Brovuie, hia wife 
£iizab*lb, and William BigBme, Esq., to my daughter 
Afta StrJDger, wita of Ptiiaeaa Eftnnger," Ac. 

The name therefore is Broome, and not Browne 
at all. Jimira. 



Tax Irish Plakxtt (4* S. tL SOO, 512).- 
I IiaT6 alwaja heaid uid understood it to bsTS 
been a hani air of a ^land and elevating character. 
It mingled the moat pAHaonate grief for wrong 
inflicted on clan or kindied with the fiercMt de- 
nunciation of the wrongdoer. It celebrated a 
Tictorr and the virtues of the victor chief. It 
was the napUal aong of a rojal hero's bridal, or 
the reven^ful and defiant strain upon hia fall in 
battle. When Ireland became at length consoli- 
dated under Engliah rule, and the fighting of the 
nativo septs and daoswas done away with, the 
planxfy assumed a convivial character; and any 
gentleman of old standing in the countrj, 
whether of Irish or English descent, Catholic or 
Protestant, who kept a good cellar, laider, and 
pack of hounds, and who bad hiat an opponent, 
once at least in his life, in fsir fight, with sword 
or pistol, was sure to have a planxty dedicated to 
his name and honour by the peripatetic bard or 
harper who took the jollj squire in his rounds, 
and received the eead tmilefaMhe (himdred thou- 
sand welcomes) of Irish hospitality as long as he 
chose to stay. Of such modem celebrations, the 
most notable, and the readiest to refer to, as 
having been adapted by Sir John Stevenson 
to some of the most beautiful of Moore's verses, 
are Planxtv Kelly, Planxty Connor, and Plsnxty 
Sudlef — toe last - mentioned having been an 
indubitable Saxon. Like the Norman Geroldinee 
of a former age, who intermarried amongst 
the natives and cultivated the good opinion 
of their adopted country, be pitaSied his tent 
on some pleasant spot of the ''Oolden Vein," 
and making himself and everyone who had 
to do with him happy and comfortable, be- 
came " more Irish tnan the Irish themselves." 
Carolan's beat air was aplanxty, which be com- 

Sosed in honour of a Weuhman (Bumper Squire 
ones) during a visit he mode to the Principality, 
in return for the generous consideration with 
which the most celebrated of Irish harpers was 
treated not only by that particular host, but 
wherever ha went amongst the descendants of the 
Cimbii. The toufe derivaiur of " planxty " I have 
often beard discussed, some deriving it from the 
Greek irA<ryiirrJi,vagrant,wandering,&c., and others 
from the Latin pimctut, the noise of the tem- 
pestuous waves dashing upon a rock-bound coast, 
to which more than one ancient poet has likened 
the roar of human voices in battia or tumult. 
The secondary and more popular meaning of 
^tmeliu, as we all know, is a pb»int or complaint ; 
but I have never heard of any keen or coronach or 
purely funeral aong of the Irish havii^ been 
called aplanxty. I believe thatthe derivation of 
the word &om the Latin or the Greek does not 
hold good, as the Celtic is of an older stock than 

Thb Ksisht o» Iwaaowss. 

Lttwni'B Ieibh M8S. (4* S. ti. 387, Blfl.)— 
The Sebright MSS, are well known in Trinity Col- 
lege, Dublin. The old press-marke are H. 26-30 
and H. 64-71 includve. These MSS. were be- 
queathed by Sir John Sebright, near St Alban's, 
to the provost, fellows, and scholars of Trinity 
College, Dublin. The Rt. Hon. Edmund Burke, 
one of the executors of Sir John, caused them to 
be delivered to tbn Uoivernty, having first sub- 
mitted them, according to the dewie oF the testa- 
tor, ta the perusal and examination of General, 
then Colontd, Vallancey. ITiey were -bought by 
Sir John, and had been the property of Edwara 
Lhwyd. B. E. N. 

[We dull be glad to receive ttmn B. R K. ssme notice 
of thne MSS. for imertioa in tha colnmns of" N. tc Q." 

Post Prophbctes (4* S. vi. 370, 39e, 488.)— 
I saw in Chambert'i Jinimal a curious strin? of 
prophecies, each beginning "I would not be." 
The only one I remember was, "I would not be a 
king in '48." I cannot remember if I saw it 
before or after that year, and I have no means of 
reforring- to the book now. Can any of your cor- 
respondents kindly tell me if, like the one men- 
tioned by E. L. S., it was made after the event ? 
A-lso, if there was any other prediction worth 
notice in it ; and how far the dates extended into 
the century F L. C. R. 

IxDEXBs (4*>' S. vi. 434, S13.)— There are some 
books the utility of which is quite destroyed for 
want of good indexes. I believe that in several 
cases it would pay to print them. Suppose a man 
to advertise that he would publish an index (say 
to Rushworth'a Hislorieal ColUcthnt), if he could 
^t a hundred subscribeia at a guinea each, I 
imagine the money would be forthcoming. 

K. P. D. E. 

"It's a PiK Cbt to Loch Awb" (4'* S. yi. 

506.)— Tour correspondent will find the legend 

connected with this saying, unless I mistake, in 

Hammerton'e Painter'* Camp in the Highkmdi. 

A. 'M. B. a. 

Laik Dwxlldtos oir LoveH Much (4* S. vi. 
369.) — Since writing my query as to the lake 
dwellingin Lough Much,! have found the account 
riven by Lubbock, in hia work on Prefiitloric 
Man of the Irish "cranogos"; but I am stiU 
anxious to hear something of the dale of the 
island I described. While fishing there, I heard 
from a man who farmed some fourteen acres 
several interesting instances of folk lore, founded 
on the belief that the lake was haunted. Thus 
he told me tbat when a boy, fishing with other 
boys and young men, with Inited lines left in the 
water for fish to hook themselves, they were 
startled when standing near and talking by hear- , , 
ing a crash, as if a whole cnte of crockery had 
been thrown down, about throe yards from them 

4*S.VII. J*li.U,'71.] 


in the like. All, joaiig mea iDcluded, were so 
frightened at this freak of the water fairie*, that 
thev ran avaj, leaving their lines in the water, 
and did not dare te return for the daj. Another 
gtoT7 which he evidently connected with the 
aupematural, though he did not saj- eo in bo many 
word«, was that of a young maa who found a 
silver sword on the island I have spoken of. 
When wading back, he tound the ground so soft, 
that to lighten himself be pitched the sword from 
him forward on to the shore, where it split up 
into fragments too small to be picked up. A third 
story was told of an island in a neighbouring lake, 
wliich was covered with trees weil suited for 
hoe and spade handles and the like; yet, though 
it was easy to wade to the islsni), no one would 
cat one and incur the certainty of being drowned 
in retuminff, even in two feet of water I He added 
that when DDQghs were broken off and diifi«d to 
shore, DO one would use them even for fiie-wood, 
for fear of ill-luck. 

Hy informant also showed me a field. 

She, however, became in foal by the agency of 
the water fairies or otters, as some said. I tUnk 
this latter was added on account of some supposed 
scepticism on my part, but the choice of agencies 
struck me as curious. The end of mare and foal 
was, however, tragic, both being drowned at dif- 
ferent times (by fairy agency, ss was hinted) in 
the lake, the former in the very shallowest part 
of it, in only two feet of water. 

A lad who was about with us a good deal save 
me what was te me a new vei^on of St. Patrick's 
woHc in Ireland ; viz., after telling me a number 
of steiiea of good people, suggesting a doubt as to 
their existence, and asking if I beOeved in them, 
•a he had been told that St. Patrick had driven 
them all out of the island I A, H. B. A. 

Bb. Johhsox ('4'" S. vL 468.)— Replying to my 
own query as to the authorship of alife of I^. 
Johnson, published by C. Kearsle^, 1785, 1 have 
since found, I think, sufficient evidence to show 
that it was written by Thomas Tyers. BosweD 
refen, somewhat contemptuously, to a sketch of 
the Doctor's life by Tyers (" Tom TyeM," as he 
is called by Johnson), as " an entertaining little 
colleciion of fragments" (ed. 1823, iii. 310); and 
"■ketch" is the word used by the autborinhis 
■relkce to the volume printed hy Kearaley. 
Beaidee this, reference ia made in Jokatoniaaa 
(Hurray, 1836) to a biography by Thomas ^ere, 
published in lT8o, which the author is said "very 
nodestly to call a sketch "; end as I do not find 
th«t any other account of the Doctor was pub- 
lished in that year, Z think the authorship of the 
Toliune is deariv established. 
Mr. lliomaB T^eis, it will be 

the son of Jonathan Tyers, "the fotmder," as 
Boswell says, " of that excdlent place of public 
amusement, Vauxhall Gardens." 

Cbarlbs WxiJB. 
"As Com AS .t. Maid's EiiBB " (i^S. vi. 495.) 
This and the saying about a do^s nose always 
being cold are common in the west of Scotland. 
When Noah was in the ark it sprung a leak, and, 
according to a doggrel song — 

" He took the dog'i nose to atop up the hole. 
And STSr since then ic'i been iret and cold." 

Wnj- M'Iluraiih. 

A NuRfiKRT Talk (4'^ S. vL 496.)— A story 

in its cast and incidente resembling that related 

by 'Wm. E. A. Axon will be found in Chambers' 

Popular Shymei of Scotland. 

Will. M'Iluiiaith, 
Nboro Pboveebs (4* S. vi. 494.)— Allow me 
to make one correction in M. C. K. L. A.'8 list of 
" Negro Proverbs," and te send you an additional 
proverb. No. 10 is thus given in Jamaica, of 
which island I am a native : — 

" Bnckra dey in ■ tronble, monkey coat fit him," 

" Ro(± a to 

E, dry in 

10 feel Bi 

s seldom sounded ; " tone " 

The s in . 
for done. 

" Man in prosperity knows not ths bittemees of >d- 

seems to be the idea of the last. 

H. A. Httsbass. 

Sm/TH (4" S. vi 474.)~The Saturday Heview 
need scarcely, I tliink, have taken the trouble to 
inform its readers that the surname of the author 
of the CommOttiBealth was written Smvth as well 
as Smith in Elizabethan documents. Of course it 
was ; and 1 do not think that the form Smyth 
will be found in any "document" older than the 
aighteenth century. In fact, less than a (wnturr 
ago, the name of this particular family wtuaSmyta, 
and a short lime previously, plain Siimh. 

The author or the Seraldry of Smith umply 
leoorda the fact (page 2) that '■ this family now 
write their name S^tA ; and there is no doubt 
thst he considers it a modem &tl«mpt to veil, 
under an affected orthography, a good old T-'.ngliriih 

But if, as Sp. states, a y was, in old U8S., 
double-dotted, Smijth is analogoua to FfoUiott 
and FEaningtmi, both of which Bi« " orthographical 

I have some little acquaintance witii HSS. of 
the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, but I do 
not remember to have met there vrith an example 
of a dotted y. Can Sp. be correct P The example 
he gives (Maij)) I should take to be the genitive 
case of Marius; the so-called doifble-dotled y 



[4*^ s. vri. ja!c. h, -n. 

I I, wha ^ a phyMCJM, 

iMong Mdl^' ij, just 

ccnwbHitiT exfnm in m written presmptioi 

nameral 2 bj ij. and 7 by vij, 8 1^ yiij, *e. 

A> to the iHthoepj of thie uncouth nune, why 
I fear it IB bat SmiU after alL 

Mr; Lower's theory will be found in faia 
Patnmjpniea Briiannica. The oii^ M^ssted 
by bis " fecelioua Mend " really appeals to ma 
more plauuble th&n that propoaiLdea oy Sp. 


SioiriTiBT Aim SiairATARrra (4* S. n. 602.) 
I tiast dwt, should this meet the eye of Lord 
OiaiiTiUe, he will excuse me for observing that, 
when I firat MW the a^ective " ngnitaiy in his 
reply to the Rosuau note, it struck me that the 
word was new. However, it seems good in itaelf ; 
" dabiturqoe Uc«ntia eumpta pudenter." 

Neither it, not the " mgnstories " of the Tablet, 
appeal ather in Johnson or lUchardgon's ^diou' 
anes, though the latter is vety full on counezions 
with tlie wotd " sign." The rare word " ugna- 
ttuists," given in both, looks like the nearest ap- 
proach to the term : bat it will be found to have 
rather a nhilosophicsl meanin^r, as in Bacon, 
Brown, and other old writers, than one at all cor- 
iMpondiug to its nse in reference to those who 
may sign a document. Fe4SC13 Teesch. 

iMip Rectoiy, Oxford. 

OtB SoKO : " GooDr Bottled Ale " (i* S. tI. 
501.)— I think the veremn of this fhorus as I 
have often heard it " roared out " by boys in the 
Midland Counties, fiill sixty years ago, more cor- 
rect thnn Db. Dixoh's :— 

" Goody Burton's ale 
Got into rnvnod'Het 
Beinc etraD^ anil fa\t. 
It mnde me widdle troddle." 
I never supposed it a choni% bnt the whole 
song. I never neard more of it. Ellcbe. 

SciTOOLBOT WoKDS (^ S. vi. 415, 517.)— TTie 
origin of the schoolboy phrase ■ Bags " or " Baas 
I b clear enough. It evidently carries with it 
the idea of getting into one's possesdon or into 
one's bag the object in question. Thus one tftlks 
of having '' bagged " so nnny birds, ftc, 

"Fains " or "Fain it,"_a term demanding a truce 
dnring the progress of taj game, I should be 
rafter iaelined to spell "feign it, expressing a 
desire for a temporary cession of the game for apre- 
tpux, as apposed to the «fim«iAt«M with which the 
game had until then been played. Gastok Fb*. 

Unfv. Coll. LoDdnn. 

KxT TO " Lb Graxd Cxbds ■*, (4'' S. vi. S87j 
518.) — Geo^e de Scnd^, iritom Isaac IMaraah 
calla a Bobadil of literstsie, wis ban at Havre 
de Gr&ee in 1601. After some fears of literary 
aetirity he was, at tlie tolicttatian of the Mar- 
chioneBB de Bambonllet, appointai by Bicheliea 

to be governor of Notie Dame de la Garde, a 
fbrtresa m Provence, situate on a high rock near 
ManeUles. A witty author says of this appoint' 

"GoovemenKnt commode et beta, 

Peint Bur la porle d 
De Scnd^ is known aa a voluminom 


and the author of several theatrical pieees of some 
merit in their dav, but now quite forgotten. Hu 
died May 14, 1667. 

His sister Magdalen was bom in 1907, and died 
June 2, 170L She was a person of greater talent 
than her brother. 

The first put of Z* Grand Ct/nu was published 
in 1660, but the latter part did not wpear until 
some yews afterwards. It is statea in ever)* 
edition that I have seen to be written " par Mon- 
sieur de Scuddiy," and b dedicated to Madame df 
Longueville, the sister of the great Conde, the 
person intended to be described under the name 
of Cyrus. The work is supposed to be the joint 

Erodudion of tbe brother and sister, but there is 
ttle doubt that his part of the worii was veiy 
small. Their contemporaries always attributed 
the book to the sister, notwithstanding that the 
title-page bears the brother's name. 1 have not 
Monsieur Cousin's work to refer to ; but, if I re- 
member rightjy, he Httributas the work to Ma- 
demoiBelle de Scudfry. 
Speaking of Mademoiselle de Scuddrr, M&tofre 

" M. de Uarob^ na vonloit paa qn'ellf enit fUt ni le 
Cyru« ni la CWlie, psrceqiie c«8 nnTiBcra soot imprimiT 
toui le nam de M. da ScDcwTy. MsdemoJAOlR de Scnd^ry, 
disoil-il, m'a dit qu'dle ue les a point fuiu, et M. >le 
Scud^ry m'a asanr^ qoe c'^tolt luy r|ui lee avoit com- 
pojpz. Et moi, lui dit-je, je rons assure que c'cst Ma- 
demoisellods Sciidi<ry qal les a fait?; et je le eay blra." 

If any reader of "N. & Q." can tell us where 
to find a perfect and complete key to the work, 
he will be conferring a favour on one who appre- 
dates the work for, what it was meant to be, n 
description of contemporary manners. 


Gkabthax : Blttetows (4"" S. vi. 476.)— Tiie 
political autocrat of this borough, Lord Huutinp- 
tower, was himself known by the sobriquet of 
" Blue Billy." Johs BaooES. 


KiBi Saitton (4"- S. vi. 387, 449, 660.)— Hall 
Saalion is a sntaU hamlet, paotsh of Irton, Cun- 
berlond, whose scnl b of a light sandy desonp- 

Downham Santon or Sandy, Siiffi>lk, in 1666 
was ne«^ overwhelmed hf ma imaanae drift of 
sand from the Ladmnbeati Hills, five mileadia- 

The sail of Saaton Hinm^e, Uneoln, is sandy. 


■**s.Trr. Jak.14,71.] 


Kiik SantoB, CQml)erluid, is mipposed tobftn 
derived its same ^m a circulu piece of yntei 
400 feet id diameter, which covers the rnina of t. 
chnrch. Kiik Santon, with its appurtemnces, wtm 
irraated hy the BoyTill familj to the Abbey of 
St. Hb>7 u> Pumees. 

Kirk SantoD, Isle of Man, is deBCirbed as a shibII 
village of a nigged surface, near Kirk Santon 

Sandwiche, Kent, is described by William 
Lambarde (An AipkAetical Desenption <^ Bng~ 
land and Wales. Lend, mdccms. 832) " to hnvo 
got the name of the Light Sande." 

" Santlftke. 1. Lacui Smguinh. Nesre to Battd In a PUes nsmeil SintlBke, which the People of 
tba Cmnlrye erta to th» Daye imagine to ba >o ulled 
of tbe Hi«im«9 of Bloud that ramie thure liler the 
RTcat Fii;bt betvcna the Canqaerour and Haronld." 

/. Lambvdr, idem 3! 

Sandgnte, Kent — 

" The nsme of Iho Tillage ia denved from its sitnatian 
■t one of tbo«e)calG3 or |^p9 of the sea to frequent along 
the E. coast, and from Iha sandy Datnre of Ibe soil on 
Wbich it ia b»iU."— Hamilton's Gaietlter. 


4i, Eaimoa Square, S.Vl'. 

. Babies' Bblm (4"'S. vi, 475; vit. 21.)— The 
divine poet is Francis Queilee, The lines are from 
his Embltmt, IHvitie and Moral, book n. No. 8. 
Venus is soothing a fretful earthly Cupid with a 
globe and bells (no doubt, a fort of coral). Divine 
Capid ezpostnlates — 

" We'll look to beaven, and trust to higher wjs ; 
Let swine love busks and ebildren whine for toys." 

The Bells ot St. Michael's, Coveittey (4* 
S. vi. £24.) — These bells weie at first arranged in 
two heists, but on the tenoi bell being cracked 
in 1809, and recast by Bryant of Hereford, thev 
Were all arranged on one level, and sotheystiU 

'n'hen this peal was fint hung, it was disposed 
on a CraoieworK restang on the walls of the tower, 
khI aerion danger to tbe building being appre- 
hended, it was resoived in 1793, by the advice of 
Kr. Wyatt, the architect, to construct a luaat 
reatiDg on Ibe ground. This was designed by Ht. 
letter of Lichfield, and carried ont in 17M, at an 
expense of S07<L, the bells beins rehung in De- 
cember the wnte year, since which time no mate- 
rial altentioii hw been made. At tbe same period 
tiw tomr mideiwraitA ^oroi^h repair. They 
an not so bigk ia the tower br thirty feet as at 

Howerar desirable this arraagement may be for 
the bella, aad for secnring safety to the buHding 
in lingiag tlnna, it is mach to be regretted that 
it has omipletciy sacriSead die brtemol f^pew^ 

it commiuiicated by a lofl; imA beMitiAiUy gnopov- 
tioned areh. 

A clock and chimes ^pear to have been added 
to the beHs at a vwy early date, for in I'dW-? 
notices of paymenta being made on their aaaatiiit 
Iir« recorded ; and in 1677 " v> was paid fbr tym- 
b«r and niakyng the berrell for the cbyne,'' and 
in the same year Henrv Bankes was avgaced in 
altering the " chyme ana settinge hit news. 

In 1778 a new cloti and chinea were con- 
structed by Mr. Worton of Birmin^iHu at an 
expense of '27~L Some years ago the a ' 

iged and harmonised. Both are under the 
care of the grandson of their origiDal maker. 

WiL Geo. Fexttvh. 


[Oar correniondait will find his early puticnlars of 
these hells in anr S" S. is. 421, fill.] 

Marike Rose (*» 8. vi. 436, 484.)— The rose 
alluded to by Mb. J aues Peabsoit is tbe one I in- 
quired about (p. 436). I found it in proftision nenr 
Fleetwood ; but I think that Boaa tpmommma ia 
not the proper name, and that it is more likely to 
be the SoM rubella, as guessed by J. T. F. I 
know the ipinaaittima : it ia an Alpine plant found 
at a coDsiderable altitude in the Vallais. D'An- 
greTille, in his La Flore VaUaisanne (Geneva, 
16G3), names it as on the mountains of Fins- 
hauta 4600 feet abore the sea. The English 
larine rose is certainly entitled to the epithet 
" spinosissima," but still I belisTe that it is a dif- 
ferent plant to the Alpine one — the real spinoiis- 
tima of Linnsus. This is only conjectare, I 
should like to compare tbe Fleetwood rose with 
the Fins-bants plant. Perhaps some botanist 
who has visited the Alps msy be able to say 
whether the two roses bxk identical. The northi^m 
plant of the Sraiih Setani/ (quoted by J. T. F.) 
may probably be the same as the Lancashire one, 
but 1 am sceptical as to the Fle«rtwood rose being 
the AlfUne Lumsm ^nnoMStina. Has the North- 
umbrian sea-rose been ever examiaed vrith the 
Fleetwood oneF Canuot F. C. H. throw some 
light on tbe subject? Hetaiowsallthe localitiea 
above-named." A Mubitbiah. 

"With regard to the rose inijuired about in 
" N. & Q.," had I a small specimsn or a more 
minute description, I could tell the name at once. 
But wanting this, I have no doubt that it is the 
Bumet rose ^ Sosa /pirumttima = Ekcotch loie. 
The latter name is given because it grows plenti- 
fully in Scotland. I have found it on tbe sandy 
shoMS of Wales, from Pembroke to Caernarvon. 
On the sands it is veir dwarf; it is taller inland. 
I have found it in worceMoehiss. I do not re- 
collect it in Switzerland ; but it frequently hi^ 

* The Mom Atpku, L, ia fbitad at an aldtnde of 78BO 

* in the moantaina of St. Barnaul. It la the hi^^ 



[4*a.VIL Jia.11,71. 


ins that a cowt plant rcoyn on lof^ mountaios. 

'he Kurvy-gxaBS {CoMearia), a conunon aea- 
coaat ^ant, in one of its fomu (C o^pmo or 
anxnbmdica) growB oa the suiumita of mouDtuDS. 
I have ffathraed it on the walla of TeDbf in 
South Walas, and on the eummit of Ben Lavera 

Jiosa mmo 

about Scotland. In Dr. Hooker's Sludeni'. Flora 
of the Britiih Ides it is said to grow in Arctic 
Europe and in Siberia and North China. The 
Boia rubella, named b; J. T. F. (4'* S. vi. 484) 
ie a very local maritime row, and not at all 
likely to be the Lancashire rose inquired after by 
a brother " Murithion." Edwin Lbbs, F.L.S. 

Qreea Hill Summit, WDrccBter. 

Spinonuima et ruhella=geiUilU. — Je tous dirai, 
quant i ma mani^re de Toic, que cea deux roses 
soot diffjrentea. La Roia tputoiiitimit (Smith, 
Eng. Fhr.) croit sur lea cotes incult«s du bord de 

De Candolle (p. 008) apnelle cetto n 
, , Elle est aot 

Salive, pr^ de Oen^re: 

roise pimpmillifolia.* 

t abondante 
_ aai trouTfie a 

Catogne, sur Sembrancher. 

RoianAeUa (lAnAley)=So»agtatilu (Stemb.) 
Tient auBsi en Suisse, hut le Salere. D'apr6s 
certains anteurs, ces deux roses paraisBeut avoir 
be&ucoup de rapport et de parent^, au point qu'il 
eat difficile de tea distjnguer. Je croia lea avcdr, 
les deux esp£cee (tpiaotunma et rubella ^ gmtilii), 
dans mon bertner. G. De i.a Soib, Curd. 

BoverQier.t Suisse. 

SisH. CaxBRB, THESTATUiKT {4"'S.Ti,535.) 
I can mention aplace where one of this artist's works 
may be aeen — Mold parish church, FliiKshire — a 
full-length marble statue of life-dze, of ^om I 
foiget A Hon of Charles Madryll and fVances 
Cheere owns and lifes at Papworth Everard, not 
far Irom Caxton gibbet Umeas I am mistaken, 
they have no grandson, few of the sons having 
married. Of the survinug sons, one is registrar 
of the Middlesex County Court holden at Olerkeo- 
well; one is a major (retired, 1 believe, from the 
Indian army); another is in holy orders, and in- 
cumbent of Little Drayton, Shropshire. 


Thk e2iiD SBoiHBin; (4'* S. vi. 628.) — In De- 
cember 1766 the 62nd regiment (or Loyal Ame- 
rican Provincials) was laiaed in America. Inl766, 
in consequence of the capture of the 60th and 6lBt 
regimenta at Oswego, the regiment was numbered 
the 60th. The Act of Parliament sought after by 

Mb. Hissdtb, if my memory serves me, was en- 
acted at the commencement of the French revolu- 
tionarj war, to permit Hanoreriana to join the 
63nd. Hanover, by treaty, furnished a contingent 
of 14,000 for life service to our army. 

F. Datid Bbuht. 

Wbono Datbs nr Ckrtaib Biosraphies (4* 
S. vi. 410.) — In the communication by the RsT. 
De. Rogers to " N. & Q." on the above subject, 
after stating that he had shown in 1866 that the 
date of the birth of the Ettrick Shepherd com- 
monly given, viz. Jan. 3S, 1772, could not be 
correct, aa the pariah re^ster proved that he was 
baptised on Dec. ft, 1770, he goes on to remark : 
" Yet the R^v. Thomas Thomson, in a memoir 
of the poet prefixed to the octavo edition of hia 
works, publiahed by Measrs. Blackie of Olaagow 
in 1866, has repeated the original error." The 
following are the words of the memoir, from 
which it will he seen whether the "original error" 
has been repeated or not : — 

" Tbe subject of aar memoir was bam, according to his 

1 1772, I 

D the 2. 


* AngUcc "Pimpernel.'' Vide note by Ha. James 
Pbabsoh of Mllnrow, 4>* S. tL p. 4M. 

[t Ths villige of Bovernier is ■ sboTt disbincg rrom 
UarticDj, on the St Demsnl route, and oar correspon- 
dent A Mdrithiam says that iiis friend, the worthy Cart 
of Bovernier, is always gled to i«« anv hotauical iJiurlBls 
snd to give eveir InforiDstioD. H. 'De la Sole speaks 

This assigned date, . . , r 

memory, na the parish leglster records bis bap 
having taken place on the 9th of December, 1770." 

So the Rev. Dr. has not discovered an error, 
but only a mare's nest. Buckie & Sos. 

Tlu Nrw Tatamaa, aecordag b> the AuUioriied Vertimi. 
With Aaaly$it. Nota, Ac. (BigsUr k Sons.) 
The great aim which the editor of thb edition of the 
New Testament has had in view has been, " (o make the 
volume truly serviceable both forpobUc and private use; 
and to pat the English reader b» far as possible in pos- 
session of the Divine beanties, flccorades, perfection', and 
bannonies of the inspired original." To detail the arrange- 
ment and mode of printing, liy which the editor has endea- 
voured to accomplish thi^ Important object, would be to 
transcribe literally the editoi'a Introduction. For this 
tie have not space, and must, therefore, confine ourselves 
to the expression of oot opinion that, in the volonie 
before us, the Christian reader will fled a most intelli- 
gent and trustworthy guide to the study of the New 

Wondttfid aioria fron IfonJiem Lamdi. By Julia 
Goddard, Author of " The Bov and the CoDstdlationa," 
&c WilJl an Intrvdtctim by Hit Rev. George W. Cos. 
M.A., and Six IlluttraliatM from Detigm bg W. I. 
Weigsnd, EngroBed iy C. feanon. (Longman.) 
Cloaely aa the popnlai tales of all nations are allied, 
both in the hidden myths which they veil and the shape 
17 are presented, they poaaees nevertheless 

in which tl 

presented, the? noaans neverlhelee 
and vitality which serves to give a 
air of novelty to them under every form they may aa- 
aume. The book betbre us fDmishea a striking instance 
of this. There is probably not an incident, however 
strange or startling, in any of these " Wonderftil Stories," 
which has not its counterpart In same cognate legend of , 
the East or of the West, yet as we read them we ara ' 
ebannedby tbe spirit of orlglDslity and sense ofgeniiine- 
neas by whkh th^ are chiraelarissd ; and we lay down 

4'^S.Tri.jA.i. 11,-71.] 



the book with > wnM of IndsbtedDssa to MfsE GodiUrd 
for a CMpitil aelectioD of moat jntoraldng popoln OctionB, 
and to Hr. Coz for Uig instrnctiTe and intoUigent Intro- 
doctlon which ho bu pnflxed to them. 
Bou't Pariiamaitarg Pecord, 1870. Edited by ChirlM 

Sou. (Wade.) 

We *iiipa:t a tct7 large per omtage, not onlj- of the 
Hvmben of the two EtinMa of Parliameat, but tito of 
tboae apedalljr intereated in the proceedings of Che legis- 
lature, an aavet QDacqaaioted with the eii<teuce of Ibis 
moat dmM index to the progros of legialitioa. Thi 
ParBameiiarif Record appean from week to week, anc 
H tha typa ii ahra^a rtaoding and the new matter ia ia- 
trodnced in its proper place, the Steerd ia always eom- 
pleta Dp to the moment of publication, bo that it is at 
oDca an index and record of the state of poblic businesa, 
and ai nch la a moat valiuble gnide to all who are in- 
tereated in such mitCers. 
Tht Mfaidn owf Marritd Life of Mary PimtU, afttr- 

wanit Mittrtu mUloa. Fmrti JSdition. (Kail & Co.) 
Tit Hondald of Sir nanus Xore. fWk EtSthn, vith 

OK Jppaidii. (Hall A Co.) 
(Satult Me O^Brtnr. Foitrlh Edition. (Sail & Co.} 
ditrrf mid Violtt: a Tale of Ihe Gnat Plague. Fifth 

Edititm. (Hall i Co.) 
Tike Pramcatiaa of Madame PaBm. lyih EtStioa 

(HaU & Co.) 

The anthonaa of these admirable Uula books moat be 
de^v ftratided by Ibe Iratiroony— " to the tone of pnre 
rcligiooa piety in which so many soenea of paat timea 
are related" — which has just been borne to them by the 
Arefablahop of Canterbnry, who has been indebted to 
them for the soothing intereat which bwniled many 
honrs dnriiu hia lone illneaa. What pnbliaher conid 
rerist drcnUtiiig aach 

We desire to oorrect a misatatement of which we have 
acddentaUy been gnillr. in annoancine that this work ia 
to be eomrieted by Mr.'Walfbrd, the edltoror T^e Landed 
GtKtry. Ita continuance is to be entmated to Mr. Fap- 
worth'arsbtiveand friend, Mr. Alfred n'.Morant,F.S.A., 
who haa klodlr nndertaken tu prepare the remaliider of 
the oiigioat MS. for, and to see it through, the press; and 
whose qnaHfications for the task are not nnknown to 
some of the snbscribeis. As three-flnhs of the work have 
bem poblltbed, and the remainder is complete with the 
exception or a small portion which requires retranacri bine 
for ttie presa, there aeems now no doubt tbat the work 
will reiT shortly be completed, to tbe great advantage 
of all heraldic and genealogical students. Thoso who 
desiie to know how they may obtain the lemaiaing Psrts 
of the work, ar may sahscrlbe for the book in its com- 
[dete furm (the price will be five guineas}, should apply 
to Mr. Wyatt Papwortb, F.R.I. RA., 13, Hart Street, 
Bloomsborj' Square, for a copy of the new Prospectus 
which he has lately ciwulated. 

The FAinniKD WiHDOWS.-^reat fears being enter- 
tained for the safety of these matchless specimens of 
early art, a competent authoritv having declared that 
*■ at least the windows most be releaded, or a good etorm 
woold do more faann than any restoration conld effect." a 
committee to secure their preservation has been formed 
under tbe presidency of £aii Bsthnrst, and o( which 
Mr. Pjlward Roberta, F.S.A.. ofNo,25, Parliament Street, 
ia the honoray secretary. That gentleman ia not only 
prepand to alford every information on the aubject that 
mar lie desired, but is* duly authorised to receive sob- 

i erideiKe of Mlaa Manning's 

While speaking of these windows, we may state that 
Mr. H. F. Holt has written a p^ier for the Archaologtcal 
AasodaUon entitled the " Tannea of Falrfiird," in whleh 
he gives the rise and &I1 of that family from dooamenta 
hitlierto unnoticed, and in which he showa — 1. Ttiat John 
Tanae did not acquire the painted glasa in 149S by con- 
quest or (diacy. 3. That he did w( found Fairford 
church, or dedicate it to the Virgin Mary. B. That lie 
did not rebuild the chorch. 4. That he had nothing 
whatever to do with the painted glaas, and never oon- 
templaled either ita pnrchaae or ita erection ; and laatly, 
the facta connected with the acquisition of the windowa ; 
by whom given, and when, aa well as the drcamsCaneea 
and motives which induced the donatdon. 

ConK Cdvibbiah and Abchjiolooical Sociktt.— 
An intereating account was given at the recent meeting 
of this Society of an ogham stone found, near Maciooo, 
in an ancient subterranean chamber, 'llie fragment of 
inscription on the atone was translated aa — " (Stone <rf> 
Fkcuana thk Sow or Cuod • • *," and was believed 

BoDLEiA> LtBRABT.— The donatlom to the Bodleian 
Library at Ozlbrd during the year ending Nov. S, ISTO, 
aocording to tbe catalogoe last issued, comprise aevann- 
fonr works printed at Ae Bouiak Press and presented by 
hia Highness the Khedive of Egypt; Mlars bv the £m- 
pemr Napoleon III., pnaeoted by his Majesty,' and coa- 
trjbutiona from a uumtierof nniveraitiea and ctatreaof 
learning in Europe and America, India and Auatralil. 

AHTiqvAHiAit BicAVATiosa IK Italt. — Interesting 
excavations are being carried un in varioos parts of Italy, 
espedalty at the Campo Santo of Bologna, where a stra- 
tum of Etruscan Intermenta has lately been diaoovered 
underneath tbe medinval and modem strata ; and also at 
the Leacadian promontory, where Profeaaor Giovanni 
Capelini reporta tliat traces of cannihaliam have been 

SoclETT OF AiiiiQDARiita OP ScoTLANO. — Thla So- 
ciety haa just been presented with tbe collection of anti- 
quities of the late Sir Jama Y. Simpson, which includes 
portions of sculptured slabs from Nineveb. 

Albbrt Barkis, D.D.— Hie American papen record 
the sudden death of this well-lcnown commentator on the 
Bible, at the age of seventy-two years. 

Ahrbicak LiTERART Hbk.— Btyant ia reputed worth 
600,000 dollars, made chiefly by journalism. Longfellow 
is estimated at 300,000 dollars, the gift of his father-in- 
law, besides the verv considerable proHt of his poems, 
.olmes is rated at 100,000 dollars, lieiedilarv property, 
LCreaaed by lecturing and literature. Whittier, who 
liveafrugallv, is worth 80,000 dollars, inherited and earned 
by his popular pen. Saie is reputed worth 70,000 dollars, 
inherited and earned in law, lecturing, and literature, 
Lowell is said to be worth 30.000 or 40,000 dollars, here- 
ditary, and acquired in his chair as professor of Harvard 
College. Boker is rich br inheritance, and worth pro- 
bably 100,000 dollars. Bavard Taylor ia a man of inde- 
-"icieut property, the pruflla of hia literature and lectur- 

j, and dividends from his Trilnou stock. Verily, a 
proapeiona set of fellows. — Americaii Paper. 

A Showzr of B[>}01>. — One of (hoae phenomena, so 
intereating to scientific men — a shower of refl-coloured 
rain, occurred recently near Sulphur Springe, Texas. It 
tatted for eight or ten seconds, and from the colour of the 
drops haa been termed by the people of the \idnily " a 
shower of blood," 


C4"S.VII. Jan. H 

e Uttoiy of oDi 

Aaftof the p«Mat vanioa tb^wiag ■ta^aacain what 
MTtknlan it dilhn £m« the piaaediBg MUtno), sod 
Ma which tba tDpT apfifcd to tfaa Ad of Vatmmitj 
wai tnoKiibed, Aon lAidi tranacript "the Sealed 
Book " of W6S ms poated, hv bsM B^iradaced tf 
M^jor-Gtooal Sir Hemj Juna'i ^Mo-aliicagiaphic 
man. tt fb«n> Ut aiut coonterpirt af the oiwiul 
ndio Tolome, and ia about to be pablisbed bf Mr. B. M. 
Pi(AariiiK with the uitboritr of the gCatumwv OlBo. 
Ufa nr ■ . . 

Prater Book. 

WiLUAM SmiTEr Grasow.T.S.A.^We ngnttoan- 
noanoe the death on Jan. 8, 1871, of thfa wdl-known 
hiitoiical and tofognfhial aotiquuv, and one of the 
«ailiett eontiibaton (o the pagei of " H. & Q.," for two of 
hi* aitidu, ondST the inituU W. S. G., appeared in the 
fintrolnmeafonrFiiMSuiesQSlS-fia). Mr.Gib$on, 
who was toj twent3^'•a«en yean Begktrar of the Court of 
BmkmptCf at NewcasUe-apoa-Tyne, wee the aathar of 
the Iblloimgsmong other work! ; — I. " Dileton Hallj or 
Hemoira of the Bight Hoo. James Radcliffe, Earl of 
Derwentwater : to which is added A Vi^t to Bamlmrgh 
Caalle." 3. " Northomhrien Castlea, Gharetaes, and 
Antiqnitiea." Thie« Series. B. " The Hiatorr of the Mon- 
■staiy feonded at Trnemouth." 4. " Ab Eenr oa the 
HistoiT and Antjquitiea of Bighgate." 6. "A Memoir of 
the Lire of Kichard de Bury, Bishop of Durham,' &c. 

waxtkh to FimoKm, 

Flba fcUowIoiBgokito bgHnldtiKi 

fiaUcci to CatrtipatOJcnU. 

las Ihdex (n tit tut vohtiar wUl bl rtadjlfor ddictru 
■Htt " N. & Q." ~^ Sattudof Mil. 

N. R. Shirlts'tdrmmatic uMd olAtrtgarittitrt eoBtclal 
and uMnf £y IF. GIfford, in lix mU. Seo, 1838. 

£. X. T. Ladii Snnlifid. Set Farqidar'i B«8ax 
Stratagem.— -' Ab< lotl, but gone before." See " N'. & Q. 

Richard III.'s Bedstead at Leiozsieil--J. H. P. 
mm find a ckTUHx painr oa AU m " N. £ Q." 3°<> S, 
tr. 163. 

HlDIiaciA. Beoelmed. Wt fear im Aok already n- 
itrUd a* nmch at He MtdgettjfutifitM, 

L(>KIH).i CoFFBB-HouaES. — W.C.(aiitE,p.5) itrtfmrtd 
to h'l «M articlt in " N. & Q." 3<« S. ii. 81G, bAik If 
rnUfind Ttftrt<tctt to Joint Ellh. 

DATS UF BtRTH Of Jahbb I.— The tmr in fuiliini 
u oaljf DM of the prttt, and uiU be doubllta let right in 
tilt nert editim. 

Erratum — 4^ vii. p. 86, col. ii. line !S fiatn betlom, 
for " DiuhaiD ** rtad *^ Northumberland.*' 


I9S, Fleet Street (Comer ofOuuKaiy Laae). 


CNVKLOra. *ilk Hich Inu 
STRAW PAFBS-InvandiHUtfila.U.Bi 

KETLEBS. BnfUdi Halt, mm biIU llHn r*«lta. 111. Iti. 
«ES' lluiuks(DTr.3».8lnod,oH«ltc3oiiicnclHinui. 







SOTEf>--— B*«lP«cionJ In " lie F«eriB Queen," «— W«st 
Hiihlud CuMoni *t If uriMiw. Bfrthi. uid Funenb, M 
— Bhak^era'a DfMh: Hscul GeaeUcwr. e3 — ChriatiOM 
Wummar* and Ptoush'Witchera — TEe Siega oT Bmlm: 
Tolwooo — Tb« Prtttndsr't Cordiil — EpiUpb at WIni 
Rburch— Adun da OrleXm - Ovwnl Wolfe *ad the Wlb 
Pool — TliB Prophecy of Orral — Witchcrmft — "Lo Coq 
fhu^aii" — Millon ud Hatnrxopatbr — Bellotyii;, IS. 

HlnM WChiinnm" — "Th 

H«OTing of tho Le«l " — AnmnrJanrcpiir — Dt. Johnion' 
U'ltoh — " Dei reletirle Kobbold," Ao^ — Knight of tb 
BodT aiid Ewalre of tbe Bodr — Curious Hu-nunCui 

)crttQ. .... -.._ 

, - ■"Tom Tiddler"* Ground ■■- 

—Wiic* or Kirli ot NoTUiumberluid, M. 
BBPLIRS i-GoD, B7-Con*ivi»1 9oiif«. M-"E» " ■ 

r roT»n 

_,„ ,.™. . iniih ttTWaieT''— "Whiuny Moor 

"BhatooktlMCnT." Jtc— UncuMre Funenil Polk Lore 
-~ MicelH Bimel — The Hon. CMbcrlnB Soutbeote — Tbe 
"BlaoLawiof Coo nectlcut"— Tbe "Shan-Tan Toghf— 
nral BoiA printfll In ManchMter — MisMIe ad uiu- 
Sanun — Tbe BookminD — Tb* EotUao of Dendorah 
Jaeob B^iDB — Bur brewing after Datb, Ac, «£. 
Note* an Booki. An. 

'We hATe eeen that all is allegor; in tbe first 
fcook of thia poem. "With it, howeyer, bIIbijoc^ 
ceuei, and we have onlj person) BcatiotH ; but it 
ha! lieea snppamd that by thesa in genitml are 
meant k«1 penonagea connected with the court of 
Elizabeth. Thus one critic sees in the staid 
aober Gayon, the hero of the second book, and 

his piide the ««ge Paimer, the flerr impeti 

Lord of Essex and Archbishop Whitoif^ 
wtKn the tesemblance lies I confess I 

oift, but 

discern. I may obserre, by the way, that Ouyon 
is tte celebrated Ouyon or Quy Earl of War- 
wick, Uie son of St. George, the Red'Cross Knight 
of tlM preceding book— so renowned in ronmnee 
for tlM temperance and moderatton of his charac- 
ter. In fact, in the early books of the poem^ we 
know to a certainty of but one real charactei' — 
the fair huntress Belphcebe, who, the poet assures 
ns, was meant for tbe qneen, m " & most rirtuous 
«nd beautifol lady." 

Tbe queen, when the first part of the poem was 
pabVmd, was in her fifty-serentb year, and 
when we read the glowing description of tbe 
form and beaaty of BelpEtebe, we might be 
tampted to class SMntar among those adulators 
who gare her all tW charms of youth when she 
wM an old woman. But in so doing we should 
ia Urn injoatiix. Spenser was bom and lired in 

London, as I tliink on the southern or Kentish 
side of the river. I have shown that the most 
probable year of Ms birth was the year luSl, 
and supposinK him when fifteen or sixteen years of 
ti%6 to bare often seen the queen, who was thtn we 
may say in her primej riding as she always did 
througU the streeis of London, and probably in 
huntress' attire, to her favoutite palace of Green- 
wich to hunt the deer in the pnrk; or, supposiug 
that he may at tloi^a have obtained admisuon 
into the park, and seen her blinding her bow at 
the flying game, may not this sight haTe created 
Belpbffibe in his strong and susceptible imagina- 
tion ? Even when he had lost seen her before bis 
going to Ireland in 1580, tbe queen was only 
forty -seven, and her beauty was probably little im- 

S aired. Surely, then, the poet was not to blame 
jr deacribing bcr in 1590 as he recollected her 
in her younger days. 

I find, b}[ tbe way, that there are persons who 
would sacriSce historic truth to false delicacy, 
HOd who bUme me and others for vindicating the 
fair fame of the great queen from tbe foul asper- 
sions of Dr. Lingard and his authoiilies, even 
though somewhat at the expense of her heroism. 
I am, however, not of them, and no literary act 
of mine ever gave me more sincere pleasure. 
The quotation from Randolph's letter in one of 
the replies I regard as of great iniportonce, as it 
proves that iol5G5some of the best informed per- 
BOOS knew or believed that Elizabeth never would 
be a mother. The queen's words when she was 
informed of the birth of Mary's son are also very 
.lignificant. As t« her apparently serious inten- 
tion of marrying Anjou when she was nearly 
fifty, it is easy of explanation.* 

'To proceeo, then, 'llmias and .^.moret were re- 
garded by some critics as Sir Walter Raleigh and 
Elizabeth Trogmorton; but the latter was in no 
way akin to tha queen, and Amoret is sister to 
Belpboeba, lam therefore inclined to see in this 
last Lettice Knollys, the queen's cousin, first mar- 
ried to Lord Essex, and then, to Eliiabeth's great 
displeasure, to the Earl of Leicester, whom I 
take to be Timias, in whose name there may he 
on allusion to Leicester's motto, "Droyte et 
Loyall " ; he is the squire of Prince Arthur, and 
tbe Dudley family were strongly attached to the 
bouse of Tudor ; and his being wounded by the 
" jostere," and securedand restored to health hy 
Balphcebe, may allude to the ruin of his family 
at the accession of Maiy, and its restoration by 
that of Elizabeth. By Sir Scudamore may be 
meant the Earl of Essex. 

In Marinel of the Rich or Precious Strond 
Upton saw Lord Howard of Effingham, High 
Admiral of England, and in bis treasures from 

* See Fielding's Joiah Aitdrtrnt, L ch. 6 1 IforiTsux, 
Ia Ptjwn Parwvia, ukutAt partis^ nn fa Jbc i 



[it^S-vii, /ii«.ai,7i. 

tneckfL &c., the apoik of the SpimlBh AmisdK. I 
view Marinel u &pnrelf poetic cre«lioD, tnd trace 
its origin thus : Spencer ia hia Fteto, ^., Tnokea 
mentioD of one Arundel of the Strond iu co. 
Cork, who wu formerly & great lord, but wm 

east side of ClooBkiltj B&jr, named Arundel Caatle, 
which may have been his lesidenee ; and as he 
may have derived much of his wealth fiom Teasels 
wiecked on his coast, the poet ma; have formed 
from him his Marinel His birth may be an 
imitation of that of Achilles, but there were, and 
perhaps still are, legends on the coast of Cork of 
the union of mortab with nymphs of the sea. 

In the fifth book we come at last on real per- 
sons. Arthegal, for iuatance, and Britomart have 
hitherto been only the Rugeiero and Bradamante 
of the Jf^trioto, but now he becomes Arthur Lord 
Orey, the poevs patron, The queen now b Mer- 
cilla, and Duessa the Queen of Scots, whose son, 
by the way, was ea- offended at it that he de- 
manded the punishment of the poet. Blandamour 
and Paridel are now the two great northern eails 
who took np arms in her cause. Sir Burban is 
Henry of Narane, but in Gerioneo and Qrantorto 
I only see penonificatdons of Philip and the 
Spanish monarchy and of O'Neil and the native 

Sir Cnlidore, the hero of the last book, is the 
' gallant Sir Philip Sidney ; Melibee and Pastorella, 
Sir F. Walsingfaam and his daughter, wliom Sid- 
ney married; Colin Clout and hia Lssae, the poet 
and his wife Elizabeth, another phase of whose 
character may, as I have hinted elsewhere, have 
giren origin to Mirabella. 

There may be other real persons in the poem, 
but I have not discovered them. 


I am indebted to varions Gaelic-speaking na- 
tives of Cantire, South Argjleahir«, for much in- 
formation relative to the old customs of their 
West Highland district in relation to births, roar- 
liages, and funerals. The notes that I here give 
from the accounts of my informants may possibly 
assist to preserve the memory of customs which 
have in many West Highland districts already 
become obsolete. 

Uarriaob Ccsioxs. — Early in the present 
century marriages were celebrated in Cantire with 
more ceremony and greater hilarity than is now 
commonh' the case, except in the more retired 
glens. The raama^e customs were these: — 

Whenayoungp^r had got through thefeuracA, 
or contract, and had agreed to get married with • 

the consent of their relatives, a night was «p- 

Kinted for the reite, when the friends met and a 
1st was prepared, of which all were hearty par- 
takers. All arrangements were then made; the 
names of the parties were recorded in the church 
sesdon-book, and were proclaimed on Sabbath. 
Invitations were then given to friends and neigh- 
bours, who in return generally sent a present to 
the bride by way of contribution to the feast ; and 
in this way, hens, ducks, meal, butter, cheese, 
and even a fat sheep, would find their way to the 
bride's honse. The bridegroom bad to provide 
that important part of tbe feast, the jar of 
whiaky; for tea was but little ue^ rixty years 
ago. Gunpowder was purchased by the young 
men in order to salute the marriage par^ by the 
dischaive of firearma. 

On the morning of the wedding-day the wash- 
ing of the bride took place, and after her bath 
she was dressed in her best clothes ready for the 
ceremony. The bride's party assembled in the 
house of her parents, where the wedding fegtivi- 
ties were held, the bridegroom's party meeting 
them either at or near to the church or manse 
where the ceremony was celebrated. Pipers 
played before each parfy, and shot^ were fired as 
they passed along. 

The ceremony being over, the two partdee joined, 
and returned together to "the wedding-house " 
with great joy. A bam had been cleared for 
dancing, where, after partaking of re&eshmentg, 
the pipers and fiddlers began to play, and the 
younr people immediately commenced dancing, at 
which they were very expert, having been pre- 
viously trained to such exercise. The dancing 
was continued until the dinner was set down, when 
all the company took their places on either side of 
a long table. Grace having been said and a bless- 
ing asked by one of the aged men, tliey all fell-to 
at the good things provided for ijiem, and the 
carvers made a round hand at the fowls, though 
of them wore not very expert at separating 
the joints. Indeed, I remember being at a wed- 
ding where there was a strong man who was 
called upon to carve; but, not coming upon the 
joints, he was somewhat puzzled how to divide 
the fowl into peces ; no he began to t»ll a story 
about a s^or who was set to carve, but could not 
doit. " Upon which," said theetrongman, "IwOI 
tell you what the stulor did — be took the fat hen 
in his hands, and grasping it firmly, tore it to 
pieces in an instant." And with this the strong 
man did the same ; aAer which they let him eat 
his dinner in peace, and gave him no more fowls 
to carve. 

After dinner the wedding com^y would set 
to dance in earnest; before dinner it had only been 
a little bit of exercise to whet their appetites. 
As the dance was open to all who chose to come 
and join it, young men and girls wonld tnvel 


4*S.Vir. Jaii.!1,TI.] 



ft long distance to be present at the nurriage ball, 
to ivbicb they had admittaoce on condition of 
pkyinB s Hinall sum " for the floor." The ball 
and the whit^-drinking were kept up through 
the night until the next iay'e dawn, and it was 
always a late hour before the bride waa put to 
bed. After this had been done with ^KKt cere- 
monj bj the bride's friends, and the bridegroom's 
own par^ bad laid bim by her aide, the company 
gathered round them in their bed, and drank to 
ueir healthii, to which the bride and bridegroom 
replied in the same manner, and the company 
then left them. 

The next day the wedding company again 
assembled, and generally made a happT da^ of it 
with feasting, walking, dancing, and firmg of 
guns and pistols until the evening, when they dis- 
persed. Such wSH the fashion of marri^es in 
Cantire early in the present century, but things 
are much nltered now, although certfuu customs 
are stiU retuoed, especially those which relate to 
the danung and the whisky. Now-a-days, when 
the wedding psr^ have assembled to dinner, they 
will withdraw to the nearest public-house, where 
" the best men " will go round the company with 
waiters, receiving an equal sum of money from 
each person — sometimes aa much as three ahillinga 
or more from every guest. The whole of this 
sum is at once sunk in the purchase of whisky, 
and the natural consequence is that the diversions 
of the evemng too often terminate in anything but 
harmony and goodwill. 

Baftishal CxrsTOits. — The baptism of in&nts 
waa considered a veiy important ceremony in 
Cantire ; for, in addition to its scriptural import, 
it was thought to be a tempoTal charm. Some 
people imagined that a child would not grow 
nnleas it were baptised, and all were of opinion 
that it was bud luck to have an unhaptisea child 
in the house : hence it happened that parents and 
guAidians brought infanta to be baptis^ however 
lUegifimate the children misht be, and however 
ignorant the parents might be. In cases of ille- 
gitimacy the church exacted a fine of the delin- 
quents; and if the fine was not paid, means were 
used (sixty years ago, and prior to that! to send 
the fathers to the armv and navy, in which way 
many of the Highlanders became soldiers and 
seamen; hence arose the proverb, "An ill-got 
Iwim oft«n makes a good soldier." 

The Rev. Dr. Robertson, minister of the parish 
of Cwopbelton, and " collegiate " with Dr. Smith 
and Dr. McLeod, was very severe on those who 
conld not answer bis qneatdona on these occaaions. 
A man named McNeil once came to the old 
doctor, bringing his child for baptism j but not 
bring able to answer the minister e queations, the 
doctor took a young man of the companj aside 
nd «xamined lum, and made him to bold up the 

child to get it baptised. Tbiadiamed McNeil and 
made him more careful for the future. 

The celebration of the baptismal ceremony was 
attended with s great display of hospitality on tha 
part of the parents, who mvited their friendii and 
neighbours tothechristeningfeast. Aiarofwbisky 
havmg been provided, sponsors were <^osen, whom 
they called "([oistie" and " banna-goistie. The 
care of the wmskey was entrusted to the" goislie," 
and the "banna-goistie" (or female gossip) had 
the cha;^ of the eatables. The in&nt was then 
given up by the "bonheen" (uling mother) to 
the company, and was carried away to church or 
to the minister's house; the company also took 
with them bread and cheese, and pins to be 
divided upon their return home among the young 
men and maids, that they might in (Ueams have 
a view of their future partners. 

Sometimes the merrv-maldng on these bap- 
tismal journeys was suffered to lead the company 
astray, and cause them to forget the cauae and 
object of their undertaking. A baptismal com- 
pany was once crossing the mountains between 
Laigie and Saddell, and rested on the road to take 
B re&eshment of bread and cheese and whisky ; 
after which they proceeded on their way, and 
arrived at the monae. The minister had begun 
the ceremony, when they found that the infuit 
was not present. " Where is the child P " was the 

Suestion ; and " Have you it t " " Have you it ? " 
le females were asking one another, but no child 
could be found. At last, the one who had been 
carrying the child up to that place where they 
had stayed on their way for le&eahment called 
to mind that she had laid it down among the 
heather, and had supposed that some one else 
must have picked it up and brought it to the 
manse; but as this was not the esse, they had 
nothing for it hut to retrace their steps to the 
place in question, which they did without delay, 
and found the child lying quite safely where it 
had been left on its bed of heather. Then they 
brought it back to the manse and had it baptised. 

FuifSttAL CuBTOKS.— Up to siity years ^o it 
was the custom in Cantire, when anyone had de- 
parted this life, for the friends of the deceased to 
provide the necessaries for the accommodation 
and refreshment of viMtora. The corpse was 
wrapped in oUanach (woollen), and walced day 
and night until it was interred. A pan of salt 
was placed upon its breast, and it was stretched 
upon a platform, over which was erected a tent 
of white linen ; within this tent candles were kept 
alight day and night until the time of burial. 
The neighbours rave up their work, and attended 
in the house. The Bible and other religious books 
were lud upon a table and perused by the htchd 
faWe (watchers): devotional exercises were per- 
formed each night and morning; plenty of oataa 



[4'»s. VII. jAB-si,*; 

cakM and cfaeese, with whiskf, wbb seired at io- 
tervals, and fMnuetliiiie wb£ said in praiw of the 
decessed. " At iDtarvala," continued my informant, 
" the relatiTes dropped s gentle teai." 

When the time of the funeral came the com- 
psQT was aerved with bread wid chetee and 
'whisky. The coffin was then carried forth and 
put on "spatea," the people carrying it by turns 
to the grave ; but before the funeral procesaion 
was out of eight, the atraw in the bed on which 
the deceased had died nas taken out and burnt. 
Very often the procession was headed by a piper 
01- iy ft person playinc "The Land o' the lial," 

■ or some other mournful ajr, on " the Lochaber 
trump '' (»'. e. the Jew'a, or rather jaw's, harp). 
After the interment, and when the grave was 
neatlj cohered in with green soda, the neareat 

, relative to the deceased thanked the company for 
their good attt^dance. Bread and cheese and 
whisky were then served round ; after which the 
company departed to their own homes. 

CcTHBEiti Bede. 


Under date January 8, 1856, Nathaniel Haw- 

iboTaewKte(I^»iagei/rom (he .English Xote-BotAi 

of yothaniel Sawthome, i. 166-0) :— 

" 1 dined tl Mr. Williita Bmwn'a (M.F.) last evBniog 

with ■ Urge parly Speaking of Shaliespiian, 

Mr. flaid that the Dul£« of Somfraet, who i> now 

neariv fourscore, told him that tha falhci of John and 
Cborles Komlile bad made all poseible research into the 

to believe that Shakeepeire atUoded a cwtain revel at 
Stratford, and indnlgin^ too nneh in the ecmvivialil}' of 
the occasion, he tumbled into a ditch on his way home, 
and died there '. The Kemble patriarch was an aged 
man when he commiuiicatHl this to the duke, and their 
ogee linlied to each other would extend hack a (rood wa;, 
scarcely to the beginning of the last cmtniy however. 
If I mistaka not. it waa Atun the tndlcionB of Stratford 
that Kemble bad learned the above. I do not remember 
ever to have seen it print— which is roost singular." 

Not do I; and as it may be new to many 
others, I, in accordance with the motto of 
"N. & Q.," " make a note of iL'" It is very 
curioua how little we know about Shakapere, and 
the more so conndering the few lives intervening 
between his death and the date of hia first biogra- 
pher, IjeighHunt (to whom most ideasof the kind 
were sure to occur, and form food for ingenious 
epeoulation) baa happily worked out the bought 
contained in Hawthorne's note, in an article en- 
titled Socio/ Genealogy, from which the following 
extract may be acceptable : — 

" It in a carions and pleasant thing to consider, that a 
link of penwnal acquaiutance can be traced up from the 
authors of onr own timu to tboM of Shakspnre, and to 
Shakspeare himaelf. Pi^n, when ■ child, pre- 
vailed on some frienda to take him to a coffte-bouae 
Which Dryden frequented. Now aach of ns as 

have ahiken handa wifli a living poet might be able, per- 
haps, to reckon np a series of canneettng shakea ID the 
very band that wroto of Hamlet and of Falataff and of 
Drademoita. With iciine liviog poela it is certain.* There 
ia Thomas Moore, for insunca, who knew ^eridan. 
Sheridan knew Jofanson.who was the friend of Savage, who 
knew Steele, who knew. Pope. Pope was intimate with 
Congreve, and Con grave with Dryden. Dryden ia said to 
hare visited Milton. Milton is said to have known 
DavinaDt, and to have lieen saved by him from the re- 
venge oif the rsstored court in mtura for having saved 
DiTCuant from the revenge of the Commonwealth. Bat 
if the link betwesD Di^den and Milton, and Mil ion and 
Davenant is somewhat apocrypba), or rather dependent mi 
tradition (for Richardson, the painter, (ells ns the latter 
(rom Pope, who had it from Betterton the actor, one of 
Davenaut's company), it may be carried at ooce from 
Dryden to Davenant, with w^om he was unquestionably 
intimate. Davenant, then, knew Hobbeii, who knew 
Bacon, who knew Ben Jonson, who was intimate with 
Beanmoat and Fletcher, Chapman. Donne, Drayton, 
CamdeD.Seldan,CUrondi»i,Kvdney,Baleigb,and peAaps 
all Uie good men of Eliubeth'i and James's lime, the 
greatest of theni all undoubtedly. 

e have a link 

Lmy 1 

thorities (all set forth at length) for this "intel- 
lectual pedigree," I must refer the reader to the 
article itself, which has been recently reprinted 
by Mr. Hotten in A Tale for a Chinaiey Corner, 
and other Eitayt, from the Indkalor, 1810-21— n 
little Tolume edited by Mr. Edmund Oilier, whoto 
biographical introduction is not only a very per- 
fect bit of writing as to style, but ia a delicious bit 
of ^predalive critidsm worthy its subject, and a 
pleasant picture of Leigh Hunt by one who knew 


main subject of this note, Z 
may add ttat in "N. & Q.'* for March 2, 1861 
(2^ S. xi. 162-3), are given two instancee of the 
memory of two persons extending over 150 years, 
and luildns together the reigns of Anne and 
Oeoiffe III. Doubtless many more could be 

9. R. TowssgEND Mater. 

found if sought for. 
Richmond, S.W. 

Chbistmaa Muumem and PLoroH-wircHEHB. 
'rhie journal being the chosen lepoaitoiy for the 
dates and particulirs of popular customs, I may 
here slate that the Christmas mummers came to 
my house in Hunlingdonahire in the Chriatmaa 
week of 1870-1, and acted the old masque oT 
" Oeorge and the Dragon," with the characters of 
Bold Buonaparte, the Turkish Knight, Little Jade, 
Devildoubt, the Doctor, &c. The party of boys 
who performed this mtmuner'B maeqne were cos- 
tumed for the occadoQ, and went through the 
|riece with much spirit "^^fj ^*A haea orally 
taught th» words, which dimred but elightlf 

■ Originally w 

published iu 1819. 

4* 8. Til. Jin. SI, 71.] 



from Tendons that I hkd prsTiouslj heard in Wor- 
cestenhire and eUewhere, and which have been 
recotded ia former Tolumes of " N. ft Q." I maj 
alao add that the Plougb-witchen came as usual 
to my house on the eTeoing or Plough Monday 
(Jan. 9), rattling their cans and asking for maaej. 
[¥»ptn on Cbriitrou Hammera nill b« fi»Dd in £°'' 
3.x.4M,4G6; xi.271; ziL48T) Sni 3. i. 66 ; it. 486.] 

ThsSlmiopBbkdi.: Tobacco.— Theneve of 
Breda was one of the most celebrated sieges of the 
MTenteenth centniy, and is frequently mentioned 
bj the old English dramatists. Spinola sat down 
before Breda on August 26, 1624, and the town 
did not surreoder until July 1 in the following 
year. The besieged Buffered incredible hardships. 
" Butter," says the historian Herman Hugo, " was 
Mdd for six florins a pound; a calf of seTsnteen 
days old for forty-eight; a hog, for one hundred 
and fifteen ; and tobncco for one hundred florins 
I was after they had consumed 
A few days after, the narrator 
adde that " as much tobacco as in other places 
might have been had for ten florins was sold in 
Breda for twelve bnodred." It appears tbet this 
tobacco was used as " phync, it being the only 
remedy tbey had against scurry." Ml. 

Tee PR£TEin>EB's Cordiai,. — - 

of 2 lemons, the rinda pared ; and pat in tbree-pcniiy- 
worth of'aaSroD. Lei thia sCutd two or tbres dsfs, 
ahaking it twice t-daj ; then nm it throvgb a flannel- 
bag for nag." (_Fnm a MS. ptaalht Ptttg/aMilf.) 


Epitafb at Wims Ckitbch. — As allusion has 
Utely been made to the parish of Win^, co. 
Backs, H may be interesting to note that in the 
naTs <H the church there is a curious brats-plate 
bearing ^e effigy of a man in a cloah kneeling, 
with a port«r's staff nnder his feet, and a hi^h- 
crownea hat, and a large key lying behind him. 
Hia hands are lifted np as if in prayer, and 
below is the following inscription: — 
** Honest old Thomas Cotes, that aometimea waa 

Part«r at Aaeott Hall,' hath now (alas )) . 

Left hla ker, ki^«, frre, frienda, and all to baTe 

A rooB in hearen. I'liia is that good man'i grava. 

Kcader. prapaie for thina^ for nooB caa tall, 

But that you two mav meet to-night^-Farewdl. 
Be died W^ Movenber, 1G4S. 
ppoiotmeiit and cha 
Gm>. HovoHToer.' 

G. F. D. 

ADAH SE Okletoit. — Few ecclewastical states- 
men of the fourteenth century have been more 
thoTOUgUy nuannderstood and unfairly malinied 
than Adam de Orleton, whose memory baa been 
made to suffer for a mnltitnde of mns be assuredly 
* tortatrlj a seat of the Donnen. 

r committed in the flesh. Amonnt then 
is the "fable " of hia havinff written Uke Latiii 
epistle mentioned br Mr. 'Tew (4'^ 8. vi. S80) 
■■- the keepers of Eaward II. at Berkeley Castl^ 
often improperly quoted to hie prejuoice. I^ 
indeed, there is one thing more certwn than 
another in connection with Adam de Orleton, it 
is that he never wrote the letter in question, and 
eqnallT untrue that he ever " ownea it, but ^- 
tended his meaning was horribly mistaken." Hit 
polii^ at the time of Edward's incarceration was 
m direct contradiction te the assamption of bis 
being the writer of those words, even to the ex- 
tent of its being impossible he could have done 
BO, as may be readily ascertunad by those who - 
feel interested in the subject. Hehbi F. Holt. 

Kite's Road, Clapham Park. 

General Wolts Aim the 20th Foot. — In 
your First Series (vol. ii.) I observe some notices 
of General Woife, which remind me of what I 
understand was a fact that merits being recorded 
in " N. & Q." He entered the umy as euuKn in 
the 30th foot, which was and still is distinguished 
as Wolfe's regiment, not from any other official 
connection, but solely from his eminence and 
glorious death. Now it happened that the 20th 
was in garrison at St. Helena when N^Kdeon 
died, ana the bearers at his body to the grave 
were grenadiers of Wolfe's regiment. Q. 


The Peophect of Oeval. — This w»« eageily 
read, and eitenaively believed in, at the lime of 
its appearance in an Eoghsh translation in the 
eventtnl year 1848. But it sunk into merited 
neglect when in the following year it was de- 
nounced by the Bishop erf Verdun, as an admitted 
fabrication of a priest of hia diocese. See the 
bishop's circular m The Tablet of April 7, 1S49. 
F. C. H. 

WrrcHCRiTT.— The following advertisement is 
worth a place in the old curiosity -shojps of f"!'!" 

of follies 
and fancies which the contributors of^"N. &Q." 
are bo plentifully furnishing for the edification of 
the future. It was issued with a number of the 
SpiHtual JUagazhi* in the year 1868 — that i^ 
in the nineteenth century of Christian dviliiation. 
and in what its sons claim as the most enlightened 
city of the most enlighteaed nation on the face of 
the earth. How iaz this theory is supported bjr 
the following document, I leave to the judgment 
of complacent Londoners : — 

" A (lOitlemla boBg bevllched br a hlrad If an-WHeb 
in his immediate nrigbbouriMod, mied and mrcnnHy 
paid, daring Sii years, ■ flsed mm of miHiey yaaily, b^ 
miacrunta. Tar hu criminal aerricea, under tba imraudty 
secnred to Ihetn by the Sutute 9 George IT. e. 5, for the 
crime of Witchcraft ; would be glad to obuin the aid 
of any Hedium who mifsht be abK by Spentnl Sigbt, 
bv Cuirvoyan™, or by Trance, to aiford such cloe fbr 
tfae identiScation In the aanae of fact, of the aaid hlred'M 
Man-Witch, In lila peraonal and indiTldaalcapad^lbr^ 


li'^s. vn.J*s.2i, T!. 

tha praeticil purpose, u Tonld render poirabU ui appli- 
catioQ to ■ M»gistrate"8 Court, for & Warunt or Sum- 
B0DBagMD9t bim in the present state of the Law. — Ad- 

"' ■ ' " "^ W. E. A.. A. 

Jo^aon Street, Strange ways. 
"Le Coa FEAKCiis." — "The imbroken self- 
confidence whicli the French, like the AtbeniBns, 
hftve ever retained amidst the (^ateat diaftsten " 
is refaned to hj Dr. Arnold in hia notes on 
^ucjdidea, i. TO, whera he quotes an epigram, 
whicE maj be found in tlie appendix to one of 
the ToIameB of Gen, Dumas' Campagnet, most 
aingularlf illuatiative uf thair preaent attitude : — 
"Le coq fran^ils est le coq de la gloire, 
Par les revere il n'est point abitta ; 
n chante fort, qaaad il ^agiie la victoire, 
Plus fort encore, quBod il est bien bittu. 
Chanter Ioujohts est s* gnmde vcriu." 

C. W. BiNOHiM. 

Milton and Hoikeopatht. — Habnemnnn is 

said to be the author of homceopatby, but waa he 
really soP Milton, in his preface to Saintoa 
Agonisteg, haa this passage : — 

" Tragedy, said by Aristotle to be of power, by raising 
pit; and feiir or terror, to pnrgs the mind of Uiose and 
such like passiona — that is, to temper and reduce them to 
Just measure with a kind of delight, stirred np by reading 
or seeing those passions well imitated. Nor is Nature 
wanting in her own efforta to make good his assertion : 
for BO in physic, things of melancbolie bna and quality 
are used against melancholy, sour against soDr, salt to 
remove salt humour?." 

This proves that homceapathj was practised in 
Hilton's time, and even Hippocrates alludes to it. 
The passage from that writer was given me in 
the oriainul some time szo, but I have mislaid it, 
and I uiould feel obliged if fou would quote it 
inanearlynuiubeT. The minim dosesofthepresent 
Any are not alluded to, as I remember, even in 
Hahnemann's Organon : the; seem to have nrigen 
from the assumption that, as the proper medicine 
was to be applied, the smallest quantity would 
suffice foe the cure. G. B. 

TTbt.t citttt. — It may be useful to some readers 
of " N. ft Q." to be informed that an account of 
this new kind of indelible photography — admirable 
for illustrating books and copying slietches and 
works of the great masters, impossible otherwise 
to be giveu in fac-aimile bichrome — will be found 
in Art Pictorial and lndtutriai (No 4), for October 

The patentees, i 

s. Edwards and Kidd, will be 

happy to show roecimens to anv readers o 
re^ndeuts of "N. & Q." who may c»ll at 
93, Henrietta Street, Covent Garden. 

8. B. ToirasHBKD MiTBB. 

S. vi 407.) — Where is this sentence to be found ? 
I have often used its English equivalent, but I 
know nothing of the Latin quoted by Ms. J. A. 
PrcTOH (Hi jupro). Stephen Jackbox. 

[Tba passage is from Horace, St Arte Fattica, 
ver, 868, 4c— 

Indignor, qoandoque bonna dormitat Honierna."1 

Ahonyxous- — I have a book endtted — 

" Pleasing Melancholy j or, a Walk among the Tombs 

in a Country Churchyard, in the style aad manner of 

' Hervey's Meditations'; to which are added Epitaphs, 

Elegies, and Inscriptions in Prose and Verae." 

compiler P Jaices Keis. 

IS, High Sli«et, Faialey. 
BiBLioTHKCA InnicA. — 

"The Mnntakhab alTawdrikh al Uadauni— Persian 
text— Edited by Capt. W. N. Lees, LL.D., Calcutta, 
I84G, published by the Asiatic Society of Beug]!!," 

What Bie the dates of the AISS. followed in 
preparing the above edition of Abdul Qadir's 
valuable history of the reign of Akbar, finished in 
A.S. 1001 (a.d. 1695), and how can the original 
matter be distinguished from subsequent interpo- 
lations when this information is not c^ven f 

R. R. W. Elmh. 

StarcrosB, near Exeter. 

Daubzon^ Monument. — In the church of 
Brize-Norton (Norton S. Brice), Oron, is a 
monumental nlab to the memory of Sir John 
Daubygn^. The date is 13i6, and the knight is 
represented boldly iu effigy. His legs are crossed, 
and at his feet crouches a lion. It is unusuallv 
rich in its heraldic sculpture, bung charged witi 
five escutcheons. The chief of these covers the 
knight's body, and bears four fumis conjoined in 
fesse, each charged with a pierced mullet. The 
remaining four escutcheons occupy the four cor- 
ners of the tomb. One of them bears the foiu: 
fusils plain; another has the fusils ermine. Of 
the remaining two one b either loiengy or mas- 
celly — I cannot say which, as the stone is worn ; 
but I fancied that I could detect an ermine spot 
on one of iha divisions, in which case it would 
suggest the arms of Rokele— "masculy d'ermyn 
et de goulz." (Roll Hen. 111.) Some of your 
readers, better acquainted with the DaubygnS 
pedigToe than myself, will probably be able to 
dedde. The remuning escutcheon bears two 
chevTonels within a borauie engrailed. 

It is probable that some notice of so rich a 
specimen of monumental art will have been taken 
byothersi buti venture to send it to "N. & Q." 
as an additional security agunst its being lost 
ught of. "the monument is valued in the parish, 

•B.TIL Jaj.S1,'.X] 


and is in a Mtlj Bate poailioD. The church 
^nerallT will repay & Tisit. W. M. H. C. 

P.S. — What connection, if any, is there between 
DaubjgcS and D'Albini P 

TaE Rhv. John Entt. — There ia a abort notice 
of the Rev. J. Enly b;f John Fox in the Monthly 
Mittdkmy (ivi 3^5), 1821, where it ia Btated 
' that he was the eon of a tailot in Cornwall, and 
died in 1743. " Mr. Eut? naa enpiged in the 
controversy among the Dissenters in the West 
coDceruing the TnnitT." Where is there anv 
lurther accoont to be foond of Mr. Entr'a life and 
writioge P Geo. C. Boasb. 

Eleven Swnjjsa Pisces of Chables L — 
A lady making her will, in theieign of CharlesL, 
leaves to one of her dependenta a legacy of four 
eleven ehilling pieces. Waa this an En^lisb coin P 
And if to, how long did it continue in circulation P 

Fkivseb : Frisel. — Unheroldically speaking^ are 
not the three etrawbeny leaver in the Fraser 
coat properlj blosBoms = five petals argent P With 
whom did thie coat originate? What ia the date 
of tbe first exam^e of itp When was the name 
lint altered from Friael to Fraser F Has Sir Hsrria 
Xicolaa left anv annotations on tbe Fiisel of 
liattle Abbey roll, and are there any noticea of the 
name before the period io cLueatdon in connection 
with Norman charters P Any information on the 
five qneries would much oblige. Sp. 

Pediorse of B. R Hatdou, iks Hutobicai 
Paiittbr. — In the Autobiogra^y and JoumaU of 
B. JL Haydon (2nd ed. 1853, i. 4), tbe writer 
atatea that bis "father waa a Uneal descendant of 

the Haydons of Cadhay." Is there an^ 

evidence in favour of this statement P None is 
siven in the work quoted. Perhaps some mem- 
ber of the artiat's family may be able to answer 
this question. N. 

"Bona TO CflAiRMDr," — Can any one say 
where the above mav be obtained, or any book 
on the duties of the chtur at public meetings P 



" The Hkaviho op thb Leah." — ^Who wrote 
this fine old sea songp Dr. Mackay ^ves it to 
the late Kichard Scrafton Sbarpe, bat 1 think be 
is mistaken. I ohonld like to see in " N. & Q." a 
complete list of Mr. Sharpe's writings. I only 
know " Old fViends with new Faces," and three 
songs, viz., " Pretty Rose of Lucerne," a harvest 
fons, and that charmmg pastoral, "Tell me, ye 
Fwams, have you seen my PRstora P" Mr. Sharpe, 
with whom I was intimately acquainted, informed 
me that be was the author of the above. I have 
HiQcs Hr. Sharpe's decease been told that the pas- 
tonl " Shepherds, I have tost my love," was also 

from his pen. Is this correct? Tbe "OIJ 
Friends" well merits a reprint, with a memoir ol 
tbe talented author. Jambs Hbkry Dixok. 

Abm8 op Jennottb. — Your correspondent 
A. W. M. has kindly helped me to tbe«e anna, 
for which I had been enquiring. Can he further 
inform me what connection there hsd been, tetnp. 
Klizabetb, between the (amilv of Jennour, of 
£aaex, and either Larder, Barket, Seymour, or 
Storks? All these came in, with Jennour, into 
the arms of Husey, of Shapwick, Dorset, by the 
marriage of Mary, daughter of Thomas Barket, 
of Dewlish, and coheiress of ber motber, Ursula 
Larder, to Thomas Husey, temp. I^zabeth. 

W. M. H. Chttkcb. 

Db. Johsbor's Watch. — I some time ago (4'" 
S. vi. S75, 46S} made inqniries respecting Dr. 
Samuel Johnson's watch. The only reply which 
I got was from a correspondent who referred me 
to Wood's CuriosUiet of Clockt and Walcke*, where 
the only information given is that it is reverently 
preserved by its owner. But I am anxious of 
getting more detailed particulars. I should like 
to know whether it is a gold or metal watrh, 
whether it is a repeater, what sort of a dial 

flate it has, whether enamel or metal (we 
now be had tbe dial plate changed), and whe- 
ther tbe hours' figures are in Roman letters or 
Arabic nnmerala ; and, lastly, the maker's name P 
And I shall be much obliged if any one can inform 
me of any of these particulars. 


"Deb bbleoibte Eodbolx," bic.— Can any 
correspondent tell me anything of Der r^girle 
Eabhold, or of the Oetchichte det beriihmtm Berg- 
geitU Gnome auf den Sudeten f Harrow. 


BoDT. — What would be the duties and what tbe 

dignity of a fcni^ and an eaqniie of the king's 

body to Henry VH. and VIU. f P. P. 

CuBions Marriage CnsToic. — Can any of the 

readers of "N. & Q." give me the origin of the 
following cnrious marriage costom, which prevuls, 
or at all events did prevwl Borne twenty years ago, 
among the agricultural population of Aberdeen- 
shire P The marriage usually takes place at tbe 
house of the bride^ father, to which it is cus- 
tomary for the bridegroom, when the distance is 
reasonable, to walk on foot, supported by two 
" groom's maids," and accompanied by thoae 
friends who have accepted his invitation to be 
present at the ceremony, Jost as the procesraon 
starts, or is about starting, two young men, se- 
lected from the bridegroom's party, who ara 
designated >en> (" sends," or messenseis who are 
sent), hurry offto apprise the bride of his approadi. ,< 
When a youth of fifteen years old, I wm on OM^ 
occasion hastily improvised into a "sen"; and, 


[*»aVIL J4i..2l,71. 

ma netu- as I can recollect, the mewage delivered 
bj my colleagae to the bride was as follows ; "The 
bridegroom presents his complimeuts, and requests 
OS to aay that be will sood be beie." 

What is the object of the above custom, and 
how 01 when did it originate f A. Faxkbson. 
"The pROBiOiX Son."— I saw some years ago 
a sat of cottage prints intended to illustrat« thie 
subject^ but representing everything as taking 
place at the lime of pubucatdon, nam^j, the last 
century- "Pot instance, in the scene where the 
prodigal is feasted on his return, a negro servant 
18 waiting at table, and the chaplain is in his 
place in wig and gown. I have just heard an old 
woman describe with creat appreciation a set 
iriuch her mother bought of a pedlar when sh- 
mw young. She says it was all " clear natral 
from be^nninr to end. I thinlc there were eight 
^turea, vividly colour«d. Could I poesibiT pro- 
cure a eetp J. T. F. 
N. Kelaey, Bri^. 

Laum Pbovzbb. — Some years ago a brother 
clergyman quoted in my presence a Latin proverb, 
the gist of which was, " The evidence of your 
anemy in your favour is the best evidence you 
can have." Can any of the readers of " N. & Q." 
tell me the exact words of the proverb in qaes- 
lion P The name of the Latin author in which it 
ii found, and in what part of his works it occurs, 
will oblige. H. W. C. 

A Reotobship of Eiqhtv-one Ybabs — ^The 
parish register of Knoeungton Orange, Leicester, 
records Richard Samson as rector of the parish 
firom 1658 to 1639, a. period of eighty-one yeara 
Is there any record in the Engli^ Church of a 
clergyman aolding the same parish for a longer 
period than this ? H. 

[What cTidcQce is than that there ware not two in- 
cnmbenla of the name of Richard Samson, probably 
fkther and bud? — a fact much more likely Ihaa chat the 
iDODmbent lived eighty-ona years ailer ba ordination ac 
tvanty-three, makSig him one hondred and four at the 
time of his death. The register of Richard Samson In 
16W would probably ncoid his an and aetcle Un* 

Feiule Siurr. — What female saint is repre- 
sented with a crown upon her head, and a richer 
ana in her left hand P A picture of her standing 
and dressed in monastic g«rb occurs on the door 
of a triplet by Memling. J. C. J. 

SoorsTAs Albkhtobuk. — Stephen, Arehbishop 
of Toulouse, and Chamberlain of Pope Innocent 
TL, ocknowledras the receipt of certain payments 
made by William, Bi^op of Sodor, into the 
Apostolic Camera, "permviQa Lambertesqui de 
Societato Albertorum.^' The letter is dated from 
ATigDOD, Uay 12, 1367. In 1371 Pope Gregory 

XI. eommissions John Duncan, Archdeacon of 
Down and Apostolic Nuncio in Ireland, to pay 
over, for the benefit of the Apostolic Camera, the 
sum of 6,000 golden florins unto certain Floren- 
tines in the City of Lcndon, " factoribus et pro- 
curatoribus Albertorum antiquorum," What 
was the Societas Albertorum Andquorum ? 

A. E. L. 

TESaC&irna U. S. — Xr^* riw KtXiPar fKurwiV 
ali> ioTif. ^tKiAii in Liddell and Scott is traua- 
lat«d a drinking cup. Can this word have sug- 

?isted to ShakesDMre the name of Caliban in the 
empad, which ne may have learnt finm some 
friend conversant with Greek P 

Tsovi0 E. WiNiniceroK. 

" Thovsh lost to Sisht, to Memoki dear " 
{_4f^ S. i. 77, 161^ 899.)— In the latter reference it 
is stated that this line has baflied the researches 
of the literati of England and America. I beg to 
revive the query, who was the author of it, by 
forwarding herewith a seal taken from a letter 
written in 1828, and engraved with the words- 

Having a date at which it was known may 
perhaps give a cine to its author. W. P. 

You mav not be aware that, in the "Notices to 
Correspondents" at the end of the December 
part of a publication called Tkv Monthly Packet, 

certain lines are published which purport b. 

those from which the above long-sought quotation 
is taken. I therefore give you the reference, 'to 
be made use of as your judgment may decide. To 
my mind, the lines bear very strong internal 
evidence of havinc; been made to order, the last 
line being, as I think, written up to and con- 
necting badlywith thosewhich precedeit. "New 
Orleans," " an old memorandum book," and " an 
unremembered author," all seem equatly to point 
to a small literary forgery. C. W. M. 

k liUrary ooTrgapondant of the So! Orbuna Strnday 
IS aolvN the qoeitioD concerning the origin of the 
hitherto uatraoeable quotation— 

' Though lost to sif^t to memoiy dear.' 
It Ant appeued in ve nue written ia m 
book, the author not reaellectad : — 

"Sweetheart, good bye I the flntt«ring uU 
la spread to nfl mo fkr rrom thac^ 
And Boon before the (iv'ring gale 
My sbip ehtll bound npoD tlie sea. 
" Perelunce, all dauilata and forlorn, 

These eyes shall miss thee many a year ; \\f:y 
Bnt onftnvotten every chann, C • v. 

Thongfa lost to sight, to mearary dsar."] 

4»avir.jA». 21,71.] 



"ToK Tiddleb's Gkouhd."— I Hbould be glad 

to ascertain Uuough any of joui'ieadera at Bitctiin 
whether " Tom Tiddler," the orieinal of Dickens's 
CtuiBtmu story for 1801, ia still in life. I be- 
UeTe that he is a native of O&rstanK, Lancashire, 
and educated at the Grammar- school of Winwick, 
in the evae county. Some years ago he was 
Tisited by a geatleman and l&dy from the latter 
locality, and their interview elicited from thia 
unhappy recluse a greater warmth and interest in 
the proceediugs of the " outer world" than he 
had ever ^owa before. M. D. 

Wkavbe's Aet. — Wanted, any references in 
the woriu of our standard poeta to learp and weft 
and met, or the weaver's art generally. R. P. Q. 

Wives op Earib op North™ BEKi.Ain». — 
Where can I find any short accounts or genea- 
logies (traced back) of any or all of the following 
Sraonagea: Eleanor Nevil), Eleanor pOT'ningB, 
atilda Herbert, Catherine Spencer, all of whom 
marriad successive Earia of Northumberland 
(Henry Percy)? T. C. 

[Id Sir Egerion Bridges' edition of CoUinit' Parage of 
England (toL ilV wb«re the iccount of the Dnkcs and 
Enria of Noithnmberland occupies 150 ptges.] 

(4'>' S. vi. 417, 551.) 
There were no firearms in the reign of Edward I. ; 
and the " gunnia " mentioned were probably man- 
gonels. Or, by somewhat audacious metonymy, 
gim might be derived from "gyn" or"gin" — 
albeit the firat ia a weapon, and the latter only 
a trap or snare. And a gun, in the time of the 
first Edward, might have been some form of 
aifaaliate or cross-bow, just aa in the ToxifhiUu 
Roger Ascham sue^ of the long-bow as on im- 
plement of "artillerie." Leaving ^un alone, how- 
ever, as beyond my precise ken, surely pbilologers 
should not rest satisfied with the too ostensibly 
obvious derivation of cannon from canna, the Med. 

jrreed. I have the highest respect 
even when he puts ao Italian aug- 
mentative to a Lalm word), for DnfreaDe, and va 

Walsiogbam; but let ns think oat the matter 
little. There is generally some reason in the 
coining of words, as in the roasting of eggs. In 
the firat plac« caana, a reed or cane, does not 
become a tube until its pith be extracted. When 
it is hollowed it becomes a Jittnia, as is (some- 
what pedantically) pointed out by the Irish friars 
of SaUmanca (a.d. 1610) in their version of the 
adventures of ^neas in duro Latino (Latin almost 
exclusively composed of radicals) ; " Vihrans 
oidlio in Tola baculum ex arbuta aut flatula h 
cann& meditans." Id the next placa^the idea of 
a cane or reed impliea sDmething which is weak, 

light, and fragile — "storias £ cannis confertaa"; 
and is not In any way suggestive of the terrible 
engines belching forth fire and death—" weapons 
of Hercules," aaya Camden (^Jiemainea), "Jove's 
thunderbolt ; for so some now call our great shot." 
In the third place, by the middle of the fourteenth 
century, when firearms came into use, the Med. 
Lat. conna had passed into the Italian language, 
and had been appropriated with its new augmen- 
tatives and diminutives to signify either a canal, 
large or email (canaie, canalasso, canaUtto), or the 
pipe of an organ (carina, catmone). A thing mok- 
mg BO much noise in the world as a cannon 
would surely have been deemed worthy of some 
special epithet expressive either of its qualitiesand 
attributes, or recalling the name of the personage 
who invented it, or under whose auspices it was 
introduced, or the name of the country or city in 
wiiich it was firat used. Looking into the history 
of weapons, I find that in almost every instance 
one or another of the foregoing conditions have 
been observed. Thus, the eariier firearms had 
given to them either the names of serpents or 
ravenous birds, as "eulverina" or "colubrinua," 
"serpentines," " baailiaqiies," "faulcona," OT"aa- 
cres ; or designations suggestive of the sounds thev 
emitted in discharge, as " calivers," " petronels, 
"pitatras," "muskets" (moichetti, gad-flies), and 
the like. As for " pistol, its name is said to come 
ftom Pistoja in Italy, as " bayonet " comes from 
Bayoone. Consider the ancient weapons of war- 
fare. Their names had reference, as a rule, to 
their qualities or attributes. Thus " Aries," the 
battering ram, the "catapult," the "malliol," the 
" Iraluero " or " from the maw," out of which 
were cast great stones. Take King Edward I.'s 

huge engine, the "war wolf," used by him at the 
f Brechin. The"cal 

. )vedl, 
the siege of Dunbar, were also formidable engines. 

siege of Brechin. The "calhouse" (Ve„ 
tat), and the "bow" employed by Edward III. 
the siege of Dunbar, were also formid 
but of what shape or potency we know not. For 
these and many others see Camden (Eemaineg, 
chapter "Artillerie" patn'm). Touching proper 
names, the "Bricolle" (the English Espnngold 
or Springald) was probably derived from the 
name of a Frenchman so higbt; just aa a certain 
Milanese sword was baptised ^ter the cutler 
" Andrea Ferrara," and as m modem times we have 
Colts, Dahlgrens, Kruppa, Remingtons, Snidera, 
Martini- Henry 8 (a title which may puzzle pos- 
terity sorely), Mantona, Westiey Richards, and 
the tike. Fanciful female names, often those of 
a lady sovereign, given to pieces of ordnance, are 
common, as " La ^rande Josephine," now mounted 
on one of the fortifications of Paris, " La grande 
Louiaon " on the ramparts at Lille, " Mons Heg" 
at Edinburgh, "Queen Elizabeth's pocket pistol " 
at Dover " ; and to this list, I doubt it not, many 
of your contributors will be able to make additior 
The Americans have been even n '-"»-•*!" 

e fantastic it 



[4*S.T1I. Jjis.21, ' 

cbristeoing tbeit ordnance. DuTinjir the dvil war 
tbtj had one monster f^n uicknamed " The- 
Swamp ADgel," and uiotlier dubbed the " Pefer»- 
burg Eipress," because, in the bombardment of 
that town, the great gun alw&js opened fire at 
four F. M. — the hour of the publication of the 
OTening paper of Petersburg, The Exprett. But 
JD none of these names can I discern aQjthing so 
weaklj and vaguely loose in derivaUon as there 
seems to be in ciinaon, from canna; because, for- 
sooth, a cane is long and slender (which a cannon 
is not), and can be made tubular. I am aware 
that mere surmises and hypotheses 9Xti rarely 
permisuble in philnlo^; but backed by some 
GtrODg chronological evidence, I venture to broach 
the theory that the word catmon is derived from 
the Itnlian canonc or cannons, a big dog j and that 
this title was given to the first gun discharging 
shot propelled by powder, for one nf two reoBODS : 
the first from the roarin>r, bellowing, baying, and 
growling sounds it emitted— as those of a huge 
mastiff; and does not Mr. Sykes, the burglar, ciSl 
Lia pocket pistols "barkers"? and did not our 
soldiers in the Crimea nickname the sharply sibil- 
lant rifle bullet " Whistling Dick"F The second, 
that it was orif^oally bmUKht into use under the 
patronage of Francesco I., Imperial Vicar Adjoint 
and Duke of Verona, Vicenza, Feltre, and Bassano, 
who " flourished," as the saying goes, at the pre- 
cise period assigned to the invention of firearms, 
and who, from bis heraldic cognizance of a mas- 
tifT's head, was sumamed Can ffrmtde or II carmone. 
"The court of Cangrande was the most magnificent 
of the age in Italy, and eihibiled s combination 
of military splendour and profuse liberality and 
hospitality to the stranger, and enccuragement to 
literature. His palace became the refuge for all 
who, embracing bis political opinions, had in any- 
wise subjected themselves to persecution; and it 
was here that Dante found an asylum." If po- 
litical exiles and distressed poets could be made 
welcome at the court of the ^at Ghibelline, why 
not inventors, and others of that luckless race 
also in modem times all known as " patentees " ? 
Chronology bears out the Otngrmtde theory Tery 
remarkably. The Great Dog became co-sovereign 
of the Veronese, with bis weaker brother Alboni, 
about A-D, 1311, and he died in 1329, 
Now hear Camden : — 

■■ The veij- time of their invsntian [cannon] la nncer- 
tatn ; bat cemin it is that Kiag Edward the 'i'hint uxkI 
them at tbe siege of Cilic« 1847, for gnnner* had Ihtii 
pay then, as sppeireth by rrcard. Abaal thirtjf-lhret 
Start bcfort thry am ttrn in Ilalg, and about that lime 
they b^n, u it b« and JD Spain, but named 
by wrilera Dnlia ign. ronio, aa fire.fluhing reasels." 

Can Grande or II Canttone "flourished," bo it 
remembered, between a.d. 1312 and a.d. 1329, 
jumping almost paripasju, like Hippocrates' twins, 
with Camden's dates. Finally T find, in Neu- 

man and Barctlj's i^MttiAIHetionary, this notablo 
entry : " Can, an ancient piece of ordnance " — 
this would have referenca only to the growling 
voice of the cannon — " ' can que mata al lobo,' a 
wolf-dog," — a dog, moreover, that can growl and 
bay most sonorously. I have said my sny in the 
matter, and must apologise for the length tn 
which this communication has extended. 

Georse AveDBTDS Sali. 

Professor Stephens, in his great work on Runic 
inscriptions, derives gun and cannon from the 
old Northern ■word cund or pund, battle, war. 
But it certainly seems most likely to be connected 
with cauna, a reed or cane — which indeed the 
earliest cannons, made of stares of iron welded 
and hooped together, much resembled (see Bou- 
tell's Amu and Armour, ch. xi. pt. i.). I have 
long understood that the prefix Gan- in " Gua- 
ness" and "Gunthorpe," names of places on the 
river Trent, means reedi, but 1 do not know on 
what authority. There is "Reedness" on the 
Ouse. J. T. F. 

N. Kelaey, Brigg. 

(4"' S. vi. 34, 73, 104, 124, 240, 30.3, 423.) 
I have made a diligent search for the song 
inquired for b^ F. C. H., but without success. 
The last line is a proverb, and is found, with 
variations — /cite, philosophie, &c. — in numerous 
songs. One of the best drinking songs is that of 
Adam Billault aUae " Maitre Adam." It was n 
great favourite with Cardinal Richelieu, who ob- 
tdned a royal pension for "The Virgil of the 
plane" — the title given to the carpenter poet. 
There are many versions. The variations are 
considerable, and the metre is not always the 
ime. In the following imitatioa I have omitted 
a quatrain which, although strictly mytholi^cal, 
borders on profaneness: — 


When thg gun-beams appearing 

Illnmine toj cat, 
Mr coarn I am steering 

And yet, when air* done. 
Cant come op to my nose ! " 

Though our inonarch is mighty 
And great in the flgbt. 

Grejtoire's strong aqna Title 
Wonld settle liim quite. 

It would make him un^tablf. 

And poll do< 
Till under the 

He'd atrelcb oat hii length ! . -~- 
When, ripe as a beri7, 

I chance to depart, 
D've think I'll be very 

im off from my quart ? 


J'l'S.TII, JjiT(.2l,'7l.l 


Ill aUrl by AveniDS, 

A Ureni of note. 
That Cbinm won't spnrn as 

He cornea from his boat- 
So caT»-nt inspector 
A >py on m V w»ya, 
III moke a prime nectar 
That Pluto will prniae. 
If Tant'Ia. inclin'd 

la to give me the meeting, 
Thinly dng ! he iball find 

Wioe that iinowa no retreating ! 
Id my " parloar " the Fnrie* 

Shall uniliagly reat ; 
O'er my Hine that ao pure is 

Thtvll frolic and jest. 
The Parrae their portals 

And weaving aiiall quit. 
Letting poor fated mortala 

Look in fcr a crack,' 

HnM carry him back. 
And aa for Ixion, 

m make bim to feel 

Shonld I e'er get permiasii 

T" emerge from the gloc 
Id IDT niiual condition 

I'll Tisit my tomb. 
And aboald there be near 

Can kick op a staine I 

Don't give Die a marble — 

Tia well onderatood. 

The wild birds can warble 
The best from the aood ! 

"ES" AND "EN," 

(4^ S. Ti. 896, 514.) 

Roquefort Tenders it, "ches, dans; et urn, et 

miHret, chez lee niM, chez leg autree"; and it, 

a, "In prdpodtion en, dans, in; void, ecce. 

Elle est encore uol^HU palaU." 

CotgraTe givea it, " preposition ever set before 
words of the plorall nnmlier, aa en before those of 
the nngular. In the, at the, into, or unto the." 
Surcnoe gives " is, contrac of en les." Both 
Laudaifl and Tarrer eonaidei it contracted from 
daru let. R. S. CaARBOCX. 

GfiT*! Inn. 

• Goaip,titUe-Utt]e: — 

' Come Nicpl, and gie ns thy cracks." 

The confidence ivjtb which Dr. Dixon sol?es 
philological difficulties is eomethinr quite re- 
marltable. In the case before us, witbout a word 
of argument, proof, illustration, or any warrant 
from authoritj (for Idenj that AsbomedeChaate- 
lain is in any sense an autboritj), he pronouncea 
ex cathedrd that (1) it and m have the same 
meaning; (2) that " ^sia as good a French word 
as en " ; (8) that " it has nothing to do with en 
les"; andC^Jithat "^ihas nothing to do with any 
abbreviation, except it be the Greek tir, from 
whence it is derived." He then gently reproaches 
me, by implication, for not having referred to " so 
common a French dictionary" as De Chastalain'a, 
and assumes that if I had done so I should have 
been at once converted to the doctrine of that 
author (whoever he may be) that " it is derived 
from the Greek." The fact is, however, that Be 
Cbastelain's and Db. Dixon's " guess" (for it is 
nothing moie) that it is derived irom the Greek 
weighs little with me against the grave authori- 
ties ef Scheler, Burguy, Littr^, Amp^^ and 
Bracbet, assuring and convincing me that it baa 
nothing at all to do with Greek, out is a contrac- 
tion of en let. 

The argument itself may be very brieSy 
stated. Tbe process which converts tk let into delt, 
and then into det, converts en let into «nb and 
then into ent. This form is found, but as the 
combination nt was in early times distasteful to 
French ears, em soon became et, just as transpat 
became tre^utt, and enfant, enfts. Those who 
wish to see this little problem fully worked out, 
with illustrations, may consult Scheler, Littr^, 
and Bracket's dictionaries, tubvoce, and especially 
Bumiy's Orammatn de la Lanyue d" Oil, i. 64. 

Unfortunately for Dr. Dixon, be has not only 
laid down mlesfounded on no other authority than 
hie ovrn, but he has ventured to illustrate them by 
self-made examples. He tells us that in France, 
Belgium^ and Switzerland — countries where 
French IS spoken— the acadenucal diplomae are 
made out in the following fashion: " Bachelier ea 
Science," "Doetenr £a Ihwit," " Docteur ha Phi- 
losophie," where, as he adds, it is used as being 
e official and clsa^cal than en." Being 

^ Jy surprised at this iuformation, I resorted 

at once to the great treasury of the French lan- 
guage— Littrd's noble dictionary— to see if by anv 
chance such an anomaly as " Docteur ^ Droit 
had ever found its way into French literature. 
Not one example, however, could I find of it be- 
fore a noun in the singular number. " Es perils," 
"es mains," "esbestes," "esplantes," "esMbree^" 
"ea lettres," "es arts," 4c, nave all been in use 
in difierent stages of ftench, but never " espSril," 
"es art," &c. It now therefore remwns for 
Db. Dcios to tell us where he discovered " is 
arience," " ie droit," and " 4s philosophie." 

^ J, Patdx. 


[iu-aVIl. JiM.31,71. 

I cannot admit that the word is ia derived from 
the Greek. The French dictiouary that «ajB bo 
must be particularly worthless as regards^ ety- 
mology. How is ia sometimes a contraction of 
eb, and sometimes of «i fc«, is explained ia Bur- 

St'b Grammaire dt la Langtie d Oil, ■volt. pp. 54, 
; see aUo toL u. pp. 277, 287. 

1, CiDtTk Terrace, Cambridge. 

(4"' S. vi 1S7, 207, 290, 364.) 
Dr. Rakaoe KSTe some interesting papers on 
" Old Mortality ' and his descendants, espresMng 
DO doubts as to the relationship of the Baltimore 
Patersons to "Old Mortality." Is he aware that 
Sir Walter Scott acceptad the statement of Mr. 
T^ with conriderable reserve P I find tie fol- 
lowing letter in the work entitled — 

" The Contemporaries of Bmrns and the more Recent 
Foels of ATishlre, witb Selectlcai (Vom their Writings." 
Hngh Paten, Edinbacgb, ia40,— 
to which Bb. Bakagie has referred (4*^ S. vi 
467): — 

" ITth April, ia29. 
" Hy dear Train, 
" Toot falaable commuoiodon arrived in clipping 
time, and adds tiigbly to t}ie obligations irliich your 
kindness baa so often conferred on me. I shall bardly 
ventnie to mention the extraordinary connciian btlarun 
du Bmaparit /amity md lAal of Old Xotlalitv. till I 
leam from. you how it ii made out; whether by eon- 
tinned aeknowledgment oztd correspondence between the 
families of the two bnil^en, or otherwiw. A stream of 

Cui (too highly toned in the old patriarch) seems to 
I rnn thronen the whole family. The minister of 
Galashiels is a cUver man, and so is hie brother. Wbst 
a pity Old If ortahty's grave cannot In discovered 1 1 
would certainly erect a monument to hie memory at my 

In reply to this Mr. Traill stated that he had been 
preventAd itom answering his kind letter sooner, 
Mr. PatereoD not having drawn up his account of 
his family so early as promised : — 

" I thoaght it wonld be mora aatiBfactoiT to yon," add* 
Ur. Tmia, " to have an account of his relatione in 
America, written by Umaelf, than anytbiag I could sa^ 
on the BDhject. Althongh yoa will see that what is 
stated does not amount to p<MidvB proof of the Queen of 
Weitpliaha't father being Iht ton o/ Old Martaiitf, I for 
my part have no doubt Chat he was." 

Then it goes on ta say that Robert Patereon— 
" givce a distinct acomint of his brother John sailing in 
a veoel called the Ooldea Role, of Whitehaven, from 
the Water of Cree in (Salloway for America, in the year 
17T4; of hia making a considerable fortune daring the 
American War ; and of hia aiUrwarda Bettllng at Balti- 
niere, where he improved his fortune, married, and b»- 
eame highly raRWctabie. He had a sou named Robert 
after Old Mortality, his father ; and a danghter uamed 
Elizabeth after bis mother, whose maiden name was Grey. 
Robert married an American lady, who, oatlivlng hini. 

bas become Uarchioneaa of Wellesley. Elisabeth was 
married to Jerome Bonaparte. Estraordinary as these 
drcnmstanoea may appear. Sir Walter was convinced of 
the tmth of the statement, and declined publishing it 
solely in deference to the Duke of Wellington." 

Now I have little doubt that Db. RAMa6B is 
aware of the hesitation which Sir Walter, at one 
at least, felt in accepting the relationship 
between the two families, and has probably ex- 
amined the qneation. Would he do ua the favour 
to give the grounds on wliich he assumes the 
relationship P He will also observe that there are 
some additional circumetanceB noted in what I 
have quoted, which do not appear in the copy of 
the paper which ha gives. Tnis account stops at 

the sailing of John to America, but 
Train gives some account of John's career 
America. ?■ B. 



(4" S. vi. 369, 479.) 
J. Ck, R. aays, " The lowland Scotch surname 
of Con is an ascertained Scandinavian personal 
name, found also in the place called Comcat/, the 
Conovium of the Romans." The Scotch name ie 
more probably a nickname of ConteUiu, or from 
the Erse- Gaelic cu, gen. con, a do5,m6taphoiically 
" hero," found in compowtion o? many names of 
Celtic orif^. (Conf. TAef oar itforier*.) Camden 

" Canaviunt, mentioned by Antoninus, recuved its name 
from tbe river ; which (own, though it be now quite 
deetroyed and the very name, in the place where it stood, 
extinct, vet the antiquity of It is ptraerred in tbe present 
name; for in the ruins of it we find a small villwe 

named Eaer hen, which dgnifles the old town The 

river is called in Ptoleiny Tottomui for Canomia.' 

Gibson says the name Conovium may mean " an 
extraordinary great or prime river." Perhaps a 
more reasonable etymology of Conovinm would be 
from cicn-ui, " bead of the water." 

R. S, Chasnock. 

Gray's Inn. 

P.S.— J. Ck. E. thinks Tenby a purely Danish 
name; and he wys the first part of " tna name 
Tenby seems identical with that of Twibury, 
Worcester. Tann. Tatneaoa, Termmoa, are Eng- 
lish sumames." I take it th&t Tenniaon is i. g. 
Deunison, " son of Dennis," i. a. Konyrius. 

One feels bis breath almost taken awM in 
wading lirough the long Est of names and Scan- 
dinavian derivatives riven by J. Ok. R. in a recent 
number of "N.&Q." 

He is very ingenious in construing eTery name 
quoted into Northern origin ; but I, for onejmuat 
enter a protest agwost his neglect of the Welsh 
derivation of such names as Tenbt/ and Penycwn. 
He appears to act on the injuncbon of Bishop 
Percy, but it tells a* forcibly ^gwnat himself u 

*»3.TII. J«.21,71.] 


he thinka it does agunst thoae who put forward 
any other ai^gestion. 

Tenl^ was originally called JJinbych y I^tooed, 
baTiiig been a fiiehiiw station of the ancient Bri- 
tona. The name b taua analysed : Dm, a hill; 
bych (a corruption of b«ch), email, and Fyteoed, 
£ah, reading thus — "the fiaherj hy the small 
hill." This, I conceive, ia the correct origin of 
the word ; and bearing in mind the compoaition 
of asTetal woide forming one, in Welsh names, 
the rules of etymology ere not broken. Denbigh 
is another name in which we have Din bech, a 
email bill ; probably so named from the com- 
parison with the higher places surrounding it In 
the word Pe^cwH there are three distinct Webb 
words, Tia. Pen y, the head or promontory, and 
CUM, summit. The mamier in which such a name 
as this is coDstroed is snrprising. Suppoung the 
ScftDdinsTian origin to be the true one, it foUows 
Datnially, I think, that such words as Fen y 
boot in Radnorshire, Fenstrywed (written some- 
limee Feu y Strowed) in Montgomeryshire, Pen- 
maen or Pea j Uaen m QlamoigaDshire, Feniarth 
in Herionethshice, Penderin or Pen-y-daren in 
Brecknociuhire, must testify to Doniah or Scan- 
<lin«Tiaa inBuence ; but I am a&aid tJiat J. Ck. R, 
would not pennit this. It is hardly sound rea- 
soning to say that, because the Danes were in 
South Wales, it fbllowa comqiUd names tnuit be 
DaniA. 1 am aware of the presence of traces of 
Buush or Northern in&uenoe in Wales, but to 
what ezlent I am as yet unable to say ; but so 
far as the words in questioa are concerned, the 
Welsh deriradona are and must be satisfactory to 
an impartial student. 

If J. Ck. B. or any other Noree scholar ciui 
prtrve the names I have put forward in support 
of my podlian to be of Norae origin, then I sn^ 
only be too happy to acknowledge my error; but 
till than I am content to accept the Welafa ex- 
planation. J. Jekbuuh. 

The first of these namea is clearly Celtic. Fen- 
y-tir-aSI agnifies in Cymric "the head (or end) 
of the poor land." In Claelic it would take the 
fonn of Ben-a-tir-nlacb. 

There b an infiltration of Cymric forma in many 
of the Scottish namea (^places, which ia probably 
dne to the Fictid) elemest, midway between the 
Cymric and Gaelic 

The word Om-Oone is evidently Scandinavian. 
Kcma or Kmta signifies woman or wife — a word 
at cognate derivation with the English queen. It 
i« a fair inference that the name is connected with 
Ae cliambered tumulus mentioned by your cor- 
iMpondent. It would then signify the queen's 
(oE wife's) cairn or burial-^lace. 

Tha pertinadty with which your correspondent 
J. Ck. R. (4* g. vi. 479) dings to the exploded 
fillip of the Danish deriration of such common , 

Welsh names aa Conway, Llugwy, 4c., ia quite 
wnuang. If Celtic forma, with a Celtic intel- 
ligible meaning;, found in a Celtic district, are not 
evidence of a Celtic origin, I am at a losa to know 
how anything at all ia capable of proof. The 
science of etymology haa gnevoualy sudered from 
being identified with the guesses and riddles, 
ftequently ingenious enough, of persona who mis- 
ondetstand its very elements. As Max Miiller 
observes — 

bas DOthiiia to do with sound. We 
know words to be of the same ongin which have not a 
nngle ktter in commoD, and which differ in meiaiDg as 
much as black and while. Mere gnesKe, however pland- 
Ue, Bca comptetely diacatded ham the proviDce of aden- 
lific e^Tiioloey. A derivation, even Uiough it be trae, is 
of no real vune i/ it cannot be proved." 

Take for instance at random a passage from the 
letter of J. Ck, R. He aaaerta, without any at- 
tempt at proof, that Pen ia a personal Daniah 
name, and then proceeds — 

" Tlieie is PeiB/cw», in Pembrokeddre, one of the chief 
uttlemeols of toe Danes or their predecessora Uw I^cla 
on the English coasts, in wliioh is found the pordf 
Danish name of Tenby." 

It would be difficult to bring tosether in so 

small a space a larger number cf fallades. In 
the first place Pen-y-ctom, the head (or end) of 
the hollow, is one of the commonest of Welsh 
appellations. There is not the slightest ground 
for the oesertian that it was ever a Daniah settle- 
ment. When did the Ficts settle on the English 
coasts P or if they did, where ia the evidence of 
their ever being in Pembrokeshire P 

Then sa to the name of 7>n6y, The suffix by 
is assumed plausibly enough to indicate a Dsnish 
town or setUement (not a fortress). But what of 
Ten, the prefix f Mr. Taylor says it ia a corrup- 
tion of Dane. J. Uk. R. very conveniently aasumea 
it to be a Danish proper name. 

Now the facts about Tenbv are simply these : 

i orifiinal name was Dynbud^-Pysgod, "the 
little hill-fort b^ the fiahery," which exactly in- 
dicates the position of the castle rock projecting 
into the sea. The Danes harried the coast in the 
tenth century, but effected no settlement here. 
No town existed until the end of the twelfth 
century, when Tenby was founded by the Flem- 
ings and English after the destruction of the castle 
by Mglgwn, son of Rhys ap Gty^th, Prince of 
South Wales. Tenby then is simply the English 
corruption of the original Cymric DynbyiA, as 
another Dynibych in North Wales haa by a sinuIaT 
process become Denbigh. 

If etymology is ever to take its proper rank as 
a true science, the first thing to De done is to 
discsrd all such fanciful and baseless ^leculation^ I , 
and to build upon the solid bads of known facts. \ 

J. A, PiCTOK. 
SaadrkMWS, Wavsdns, LiverpooL 




FiUKCiB, Eabl or Boihwell (4* S. vi. 422.) 

AKM-o-ScoTua aays that FranciB Stewart, son of 
James Stewart, CommeDdator of Metros and Kelso, 
was created Earl of Bothwell in 1587 bj James 
VI. I do not pretend to enter into theoe ques- 
tions with one so thoroughly coDTersBUt with such 
subjects, but it maj' interest him to have his 
attention drawn to the following old charter, 
which Bcddantallj came under my notice when 
I was investigating the " Temple-lands " of Dum- 
friesshire, and miicb seems to contradict the 
statement as to the year whan he was made Earl 
of Bothwell. The charter, of which I have a 
copy, was among the archives of the " Kirk- 

Satricka " of Closebum. It ia a charter by 
ames VI. dated "apudBunfermeliDg penultimo 
die Menais Junii anno Domini miUeumo quingen- 
teamo octageaimo sexto regni nostri decimo 
nono." The - 

" PerdiUctis DiMtiisoJDMagniDeli etconailiarilaJMDne 
Domino Hsmiltoen, eaDiioendatorio moautuii Doatri 

Jc Aberbrathek, Arcbibildo Ant^e, comite, Domina 
Dalbyleg ? et Abemcttaie. Reveicndisuno ■<: 

vencnbili pro paliibiu Patrido Sinctiuidre Aichi- 

epiieupo, WiltUD pnore de Blant^ie noaUi lecreLi idgJUi 
costode ; dilectui nofltris fimilunbiu at coniiiliAriiB, Do- 
mino Jotaae HaitUcd de ThirlsUne miliu nogtro Hcre- 
taiio, Alexindro Hay ds £latei," Ac 

This charter is confirmatory of the church-lands 
and temple-Landa of Closebum to " Petro Col- 
lace," which had been granted bv a charter (which 
in recited) of Francia Earl of Bothwell : " Perdilec- 
tum nostrum coosiliarium Frauciscum comitem 
de Bothwell, dominum Hullis et commendatorem 
inonast«iii de Kelso," and this charter was signed 
" spud Castrum de Creichton die vicenmo quarto 
mense Januarii, anno Domini milleumo, quingen- 
teaimo oct^esimo quinto." 

Here we have Francis Stewart styled in this 
charter of January, 1686, Be Earl of BothweU. I 
throw out this bint for the connderation of 
Akglo-Scotus, without preteadiog to pve an 
opinion on the subject. 

Cbautubii Tatt Rama OS. 

MorniT Caltaky (4"- 9. -vi. 642.)— The holy 
Scripture, it is true, says nothing as to the place 
called Qolgotha being a mountain or a ralley. 
But the uniTerssl custom of calling it a " mount " 
could only have arisen from a knowledge of the 
spot, and the tradition of the first ages of the 
Christian Church. J. W. H. observes that " if 
the tradition of an eminence were of respectable 
anUquity, it might be," &&; by which he seems 
to doubt if it be of respectable antiquity. I think 
the testimony of St. Cvril ought alone to suffice 
onthispoint. St. Cyril was Bishop of Jerusalem 
in the fourth century, and there he delivered his 
famous Cateehati, or catecheljcal ins[ruction& in 
sight of the holv placea In his ISth Cata<Aaii 

still to be seen, and as bearing witness at that 
very time of the rending of the rocks at our 
Lord's Crudfizion, by the appearance of its rocky 
surface. These are his words : — 

" 'O riATotli elrgi t S,yia%, i bnpartarit, iral liijcpi 
riiiitpaw foif j^trot, Hal itiatwr iiixpi rSr twmi tlk 
Xfiiarir al Wrpoi tot* iftiyitaat." (Cateehtiit xiii. 
S xxxix.) 

(That holy and npcrcnunail Golgotlia ; and to b« seen 
at tliii day, and sboviDg CTsn ncnr, hoir by CbiiiC the 
rocks were then rcut.) 

F. C. H. 

There are at least two passages of earlier date 
than the middle of the eleventh century (the time 
when Mb. Feeousoit supposes the transference of 
the Holy Sepulchre to the western hill to have 
taken place), in which CalVary is referred to as a 
•' mount." The one is in the Ecdaiattical Hif 
tory of SosomtH, ii. 1, where it is said that the 
Greeks, " the more efiectosUy to conceal them, 
had enclosed the place of the resurrection and 
Mount Calvary within a wall " ; the bther in the 
tract of Theodorus, written somewhere about tho 
end of the sixth century, where it issaid.speaking 
of Calvary, that the mount is stony, and that the 
ascent to the mount is by steps. (See Smut 
arohaohgiqtte, Aug. 1864, p. 109, and PaUtdinte 
Detcriptitmet ex Sacuio, iv. v. et vL Titus Tobler, 
St. Gallen, 1869.) There is a curious passage of 
a later date in Geoffrey de VinsauTs Itinerary of 
Sing Richard I. cap. 79, where, speaking of the 
capture of Jerusalem in a.d. 1187, the writer 

" When the city ira» taken, the crier of the Maboraetun 
UiT proceeded to the Bammit of the reck of Cilvary, aad 
there pnbUahed tbdr raise law in the pUoe where Christ 
had connimmated the law oT death upon the cross." (Sm 
Bohn's ChTtnadaof (ht Cnaada, p. 79-800 

Alex. B. M'Gbisob. 

19, Woodside Temce, Glugow. 

Rhime to "Widow" (4» S. vi. 346, 44S, 

569.) — Rhymes might be multiplied. Skiddaw, 

Kiddow (a Cornish bird), and if proper names are 


1. " Fie, fie, Monuenr Dido ; 

What, jilt the poor widow ? " 
a. " Al Mr Roger de CoverUy, 
Bo Croat was in love early. 
By a besDtlfal widow, 
A yeomau higbt Prideanx." 

CaABLES TsntioLS. 

Falls op Fothrs ahd Qlaxka (4'" S. vi.Ml.) 
The name Foyers, which I find set down in an 
old map as "Foirs," I take to be a corruption of 
the Old Norse fort, Norwe^an fou^^ a waterfall, 
from Old Norse farta, to rush ftinously. The 
Gnrlish word ^oit is an adventitious accretion, 
obviously superinduced after the original meaning 
of the name bad ceased to be understood. " Fall 

A'^S.Tri. J*ii.31,71.] 



Waterfall." A eimilBr impodtioD ia fonud in the 
Dame StrathhelmBdale ("Strath" and "dale" 
being woide of like Bignificance), and in the name 
of that group of ialanda belonging to Beomark 
called the Fftroes, to which we apply the redun- 
dant denominatioD of Faroe Itlet — oe and ith being 
one and the eame. The general name for a water- 
fell throughout Cumberland is /ores. The deriva- 
tion of the name Olamma ia not quite so erident, 
but may either be the Icelandic glaum, the name 
of a man, and li, a river, or possiblj' gtamr,* an 
evil spirit — the aupposed abode of the water-fiend. 
Pink erton mentions "the cascade of Olamma" as 
eitnsted "amidst the constant darkness of hills 
and wooda " — ph jucal peculiarities, not onl7 aug- 

feative to a superstitiouB and imaginative neople, 
ut con^tent with the known belief of theNorth- 
men, that the mountun peaks and hidden recesses 
of the valley were inhabited by supematurat 
being&t What renders thia solution somewhat 
probable ia, that in a verj old map this name ia 
written "Olamoir." In Norway is tbe river 
Glommen,t the meaning of which may be either 
*' The river epirit," or " Glaum's river," or pos- 
sibly "The turbid river" — Qenuan glum, tur- 
bidns. J. Cx. S. 

AnroMATON Chess-Plateb (4"* S. v. 663; vi. 
40, 116,513. — The pamphlet mentioned by Mb. 
Noble (The Speaking ^gure and the Automaton 
Chest-Player exposed ana detected) has been at- 
tributed to Philip Thicknesse, F.R.S., and father 
of Lord Audley. W. E. A. A. 

D . G : " A Kibe FEOK Yabmouth TO 

WiLK8 " (4*^ S. vi. 529.)— I can confirm the accu- 
racy of Mb. TownsHENs Mater's statement re- 
prefixed to Cumberland's series of plays, eighty- 
seven ot which were published by Dolby before the 
vork paeeed into Mr. Cumberland's hands. The 
critical obaervations which prefaced these eighty- 
seven nnmbeis were then cancelled to make room 
for Mr. Daniel's. Those who, like myself, had op- 
portunities of knowing that voluble gentlemao, 
mnat have relished your interpretation of the 

1^^ D G ; hut not many of even these 

were aware that when that model of " eelf-iepre»- 

* From this ths Scotch word glamtr, to ezsrdse a 
Waii infloenee over one. 

t Fmrgaton says tbe Nekii, in Norway, derives its 
name fyoDi*'ttM wst«r apirlt called tbe Neck": hence, 
I prctnnici our Dime " Old Nick " applied to deslgnste 
tbe Devil. 

X Tbis osiae, it la said, coDtaiiu " tlie demonatritive 
form of tbe word if, a river, becoming in Old None iin, 
iMt river," The old form of the oame of oor oirn nortbem 
tity pTobiblj affords an example of this, viz.—" Abir- 
dna," L e. lAiuted over or beyond the entrance of the 
riv«r. An ezunple of tbe pienx Aier, Dot yet recorded 
ia tbe p*g« of " N. & Q." is Aberflort, a smul waport of 
XOTway, forty-eight miles soDth-west of Chriitiana. 

won," George IV., when Prince of Wales, was 
reported to have received a well-deserved chastiae- 
ment f^om Lord Yarmouth, on account of Lady 
Yarmouth, Mr. Effingham Wilson, of the Boyal 
Exchange, issued a versified account of the affair, 
intituled A Side from Yarmouth to Wake. This 
squib was written by George Daniel. It was 
bought up on the morning of publication at tbe 
cost of some thousands of pounds. But although 
bought up at this cost I will be bound to say that 
a copy of it was found among Mr. Daniel's bhrary 
accumulations. John Watsok Daxby. 

Richmond, Surrey. 

It is stated in an editorial note that it is pos- 
sible that, an index hand pointing to D Q 

(George Daniel) might he used by the writer in 
reference to the handwriting on the wall, indi- 
cating that be was "a Daniel come to judgment." 

R L. Blbnkinboff. 

Springtborpe Kectory. 

"WhutstMoor" (4"' S. vi. 503.)— This poem 
has been printed, with an important dissertation, 
in the appendix to the Rev, J. C. Atkinson's 
Oloaeary of the Cleveland Dialect, p. 696. It may 
also be seen, correctly printed from the only 
koowB manuscript, in mj edition of Mjrc's In- • 
itrudiorufor ParithPrieitt (E. E. T. S.), p. 90. 
Edwaed Peacock. 
Bottesfoid Manor, Brigg. 

"She took the Citp," etc. (4* 8. vi. 526.)- 
These tines are to be found in tbb Arunditiet Cami, 
" editio quart*," p. 147. They are there headed 
" Epitaph," and '' Anon. " ia appended. They are 
thus rendered into Latin verae by Dr. Kennedy, 
the late Head-Master of Shrewsbury : — 

" Parrala libSnt vitam Melitilla : led eheu ! 
DLnpticuit nimia potns amaritie : 
Leniter amovit tenero cratera labello. 
Alqne iterum Kimno lamina composuit" 
The lines, I imagine, form one of those epitaphs 
so common in churcbywds, of which it is so diffi- 
cult to trace the paternity. 


Bolton FeT<7, near Tadcaater. 

Lakoashibe Futjbeal Folk Loee (4"* S. vi. 
496.) — The writer of the paragraph yon have in- 
serted Irom the Datly Telegrt^h ia mistaken in 
suppoaing that the poor Hindley people used sprigs 
of box as a humble substitute for rosemary or 
thyme. Tbe use of the Utter plants would pro- 
baoly have been as foreign to their notions as the 
oboIuB for Charon, or the honey cake for Cerberus; 
but the use of box is so universal among the 
humbler classes in tbe neighbourhood referred t(^ 



[4»S.Tir. Jaf.JI.TI. 

that, u a plant grown in gtirdenB, it is commonly 
smomn of as " burjing-box " ; uid it b no donht 
Ranted in cottage garaeoa for tbe eipregs purpose. 
The custom is alluded to by 'WoraBworth in his 
little poem of " The Childleas Father":— 
" Fresh sprigs * of green box-wood, oat six mootlu 

Filled the fimenl basin at Thnotbr*! door." 
And in a note (vol. i. p. 203, ed. 1827) it ia stated 

" In ■everal parti of the Xorth of England, when a 
foneral takes place, a basin full of sprigs of box-wood is 
placed at the door of the house fh>m whfch the cofBn is 
taken Dp, and each parsoa who attends the fonual ordi- 
narily takes a fng of the box-wood, and throws it into 
the graTe of the deceased." 

Qy. the ori^ of the custom ? J. F. M. 

NioouB HAMBt (4" 8. Ti. 540.)— This prieet 
and French grammarian sold the MS. of hia 
grammar to Messrs. Longman ; he iviis then IiTing 
in Someis Town, ne«r the present Catholic church. 
The firm still holds the transfer of the copyright 
and the cheque. Jakes Gil^bbt. 

Gl, Hill Street, Peckham, S.E. 

ThB Hon. CiTHBRIfrE SOBTHCOTE (4"" S. vi. 
546.)— Although I em not able to identify this 
lady, who is stated by your correspondent 
J. C. Q. H. to haTe been living in 1736, perhaps 
the following infonnation may prove of Bervice to 
him. A. " Dame Catherine Southcott aiitu Fair- 
■ fax, widow," was one of the parties to an inden- 
ture bearing date Aug. 35, 2. Chaa. 11. (1675), 
and recited in the will of Roger Falmer, Earl of 
Castlemaine, in 1696 (Mite. Gm. et Htr., i. 162). 
She was the daughter and heirees of John Elliott, 
Esq., of the county of Essex. She married, first, 
Sir George Southcote, Bart, of Bliborough, co. 
LJncolo, who died in 1664, leaving issue a son, 
OeoTM, at irtiose decease, before 16S1, the baron- 
etcy IS said to hare expired, and a daughter, Ca- 
therine, who became tne wife of James Palmer, 
Esq., brother to the above-mentioned Earl of 
Castlemaine. Lady Southcote married, secondly, 
in 1665, the Hoaourable Nicholas Fairfax, a 
younger son of Thomas, second Viscount Fairfax, 
of Guling Castle, co. Yorii, by whom she bad, 
with other issue, a daughter Mary, who was 
baptised at Walton, Ang. 8, 1666. 

BoBBKT H. Sbair. 

The HoQDt, York. 

" BuiiE Laws of Coknbcticut " (4'* S. vi. 4S6 ; 
vii. 16.) — In answer to Mb. Pictoh', I give at full 
the title-iMige of the stnall book from which I 
took the quotation mentioned by him : — 

"TheCodeof 1650, being a Compilation of the eariint 
Laws andOrdws of the General Coort ofConnecl' 
IT Civil Compact entered int( 

. _ . .. [fhna the Laws and jndkdal Froceedinge of Naw- 
IttveD Colony, cenunonly called Blue Laws. Hartlbrd : 
published by Silas Andins, 1826." 

I shall be hap^ to lend the book (12mo, 
ISO pp., one wooacnt, fall page) to Mx. Picioir, if 
he wisoee to sf* "* *"'' — "^' .-™;4- 4« — .. *l.«....l 

[Let as take this opportonity of doing what we had 
intended to do bafeie— call Mb, Picratfu attention to 
a valuable aitid* by a gentleman connected witb the Stats 
Libraiy, Biitfvrd, Coniiecticat, on " The Blue Laws " in 
our !•' 3. si. 321, which gives the history of this pre- 
tended code.] 

The " Seah-Vah Vouht " (4» S. vi. 477, 683.) 
There are two versions of this song, one beginning 

" Tie a glorious moonlight night," 
and another, 

** There are ebtps upon the sea," 
in the Wearing of the Green Song Book, published 
by Cameron and Ferguson, Glasgow. 

Jakes Reid. 

Fissi Book prihtbd id Mabchbbteb (4*^ 8. 

iii. 07, 169.) — No earlier exemplar of our Maib- 

chester press than chat mtmedin my former com- 

municatiOQ appears to be known, and yet it seema 

Srobable that some may hereafter be louad. Mr. 
ohn Owen of Manchester has favoured me with 
the following, which he copied from an entry in 
the registers of the Manchester Cathedral: — 

" 1693. March.— Jonathan, son of John Green. Man- 
chester, Printer, baptised." 

It is also possible that some of the Lancashire 
Civil War Tracts, issued ».t, raayhava been th& 
fruits of a IochI press. 'WnLIAlt E. A. Azox. 

MiseALE AD DBUM Sabitii (4'' S. vi. 43C, 558.) 
Your learned correspondent F. C. H., replying ta 
a query of A^ncmr Rbos as to the date of a 
Sarum Hissal in the pOHsesaion irf the latter, savs 
that the owner may deteroiine whether or no the 
edition in question is that published by Peter 
Violette in 1609 " by ascertaining in what year 
about that time Easter fell on March 27." I have 
just purchased a copy of that curious book, the 
DadyUtmut Bceletiastievt of Pompeiua Ijmnius, 
fo. Venice, 1613. This most labonous calculator 
gives two tables, the one supplying the day of the 
month on which Easter day fell trom A.n. S26 to 
A.II. 15S3 inclusive, the other carrying on the same 
table from A.D. 1583 to A.i>. 8196 I By these tables 
I find that the year« nearest to 1609 in which 
Easter Day fell on March 27 were 1440, ISOS, 
1613, 1524, and 1622. It is somewtat provoking 
that three of these dates should be bo near 1609, 
whilst the other two are remote, thus perhaps » 
little perplexing your correspondent Akikum 
Reob. W. Spareow SiHPSOir. i C 

4*S.Vn. JA!i.Sl,'7i.] 



If Toa apply to Eev. W. G. Henderson, D.C.L, 
Head Master at Leeds, tou will find him learned 
in all matters connected vith Sanim and other 

On eJI qnestiona relating to earlv pnnten or 
old typographj, Ton would do well to show your 
Tolnme to Mr. W. Blades, 17, Abchurch Lane, 
City, Loudon. 

Fruicib T. Batbbsax, 
librarien of Hereford CathedraL 

The Bookwobm (4'*' S. tI, 627.)— I cannot fur- 
niih more than one inetance of the TarageB of book* 
wonoaiDaDyToIumeofsorecentdateulTSO; buti 
bave an old copy of St. Jerom of 1616, in folio, which 
has been very assiduously gone through by book- 
worms. I could collect from it many examples, 
hot the two following may suffice. One perfora- 
tion extenda through thirty leaves, which together 
ue more tbao one-eighth of an inch thick. Its 
neatest loigth is one inch and one-eighth, greatest 
breadth three-Mghths of an inch. Another per- 
vades twenty-eight leaver one-eighth of an inch 
thick, and its greatest length is one inch. 
About the middle, the worm has made a complete 
island foui^ghtns long and three-eighths broad, 
BO that the intermediate paper of the island has 
fallen out of Bereral leaves, leaving a hole of the 
above dimensions. The insect seems to be futi- 
dions in his taste, and h gotcrmel in his way, bavinc 
a decided relish for the paper of old books, which 
it seems to take n century or more to season for 
his palate. As above noted, however, I have one 
book niinled in 1819, decidedly worm-eaten. 

R C. H. 
1 have never seen the bookworm, and, after 
many enqoiriee, have failed to discover any one 
who has. Is he known to entomologists F I infer 
&om the cessatioa of his ravages, that about the 
middle of the last centsry some new ingredient 
wasintrodoeed in the manufacture of paper which 
he does not like. I have an editicvica Montaigne, 
4 vols. Palis laoa, the calf binding of which is 
extennvely wormed, but the paper has not been 
penetnited. Faii-^aling booksellers, when a book 
la " wormed," say so iu thur catalogues ; and I do 
not remember any one so marked of a later date 
than 1750. R B. C. 

U. U. Clob. 

ThoQgh I have been greatly plagued by the 
ravages of this pest, 1 am not enough of an ento- 
mologist to distinguish the genuine insect from 
preUmders, and should only be misleading yonr 
readers by measnring the diameter cf their holes. 
Generally speaking, the plague is confined to old 
books, and even some of them appear to be pro- 
tected by the nature of their paper or other pecu- 
liarity. The solitary instances to the contrary, 
irhicb, as far as I luiow, I am able to produce, 
are, a copy of Tasso's Aminta, printed at Florence 

in 1824, which the creature has eurionsly per- 
forated for S80 pages, at about two inches &om 
the top, without any apparent outlet; the second 
volume of the London edition of Johnson's Xttvi 
of the Pott*, 1783 ; and a volume of "Whiston'a 
Joiephta, 1787. C. W. BraaHAx. 

The Rev. F. Hatekoal, Librarian of Hereford 
Cathedral, will be most happy to give the writer 
some information, and slso some samples of paper 
eaten recently by bookworms on being favoured 
with name and address. 

Thb Zobiac op Dbksekah (4** S. vi. 629.) —I 
have no knowledge of the calculations of Mr. 
John Cole in 1624. whereby he estimates the 
sodiac of Tentyra (= Denderah) to date from 
2261 S.C. This sculpture, of circular form, about 
five feet in diuneter, was discovered by General 
Desaix,Bndwas bronE;httDParieinl821. Fromthe 
Greek inscriptions on the temples of Denderah and 
Esne, Ohampollion and Letronue ascertuued 
(Frfcit du ^tthne kta-oglt/phique, Secherehes, 
&C.). that those edifices were constructed or 
flnisned during the times of the Roman emperors. 
But the antiquity of the lodiacal scheme or map 
there represented is another matter. Depuis car- 
ried it to 150 centuries before the Christian era, 
which, however, was afterwards reduced to about 
four centuries A.C. {prigitie del Oultee, 1796.) 
When Jollois and Devilliers eaw the stone, they 
at once detected figures nearly eimilar to those 
represented on the celestial globes of the rttesent 
day. Biot (_Ileeherchee tur PAttronomie Egypti- 
emae) showed that this zodiac represented the 
poution which Uie pole of the world must have 
oeonpied about the year 7X6 n.G.; also, that the 
zodiac of Esne gave the poeition of about 700 b.c. 
It is to be observed that whilst the pyramids 
coincide with the meridian, the axis of the temple 
of Benderah deviates 17 degrees, and that of the 
Rnall temple at Esne 71 degrees from the meri- 
diwi, both of them being from the north towards 
the east. T. J. BnCKTOir. 

9 RictuDond Place, Brighton. 
The small planisphere which was on the ceiling 
of one of the lateral chambers of the temple of 
Hathof behind the Pronads, is now tobe foundin 
the Egyptian museum of the Louvre, The three 
zodiacs known in Egypt as Denders, Esn^, and 
E'Dayr are all of the Ptolemaic or Roman eras. 
On good authority, the planisphere in question 
dates back little more than 1600 years. 

A. S. W. 
Union Gob. 

Jacob Bohuk (4" S. vi. e2».)— The following 
is the title page of one of the works mentioned 
by your correepondent Mk. Bakclat. It is in r 
my possession, and if this edition is of the sli^hteat^ 1 1 
service to your correepondent I will lend it him 
with pleasure. 


[4'^S.TII. J*B.2l,71. 

[or nccDcdlng to] the Tbrn Pruidples, by Jsoob Bcbmea 
alisa TeutonicoB PhiloBopti- "f-"— =- "■- f^ 

T H. Blonden, at the Cutle ia C 

43 Chorlton Boed, Muich«sler. 

John Yabkbb. 

Haib QBowma aftbk Dbath (4" S. vi. 624.) 
As a parallel case to that cited hj Mfi. Ficefo&d, 
I transcribe ibe follotdng from llawtIioiiie'a.^i^- 
liiA Note Bookt (vol. i. p. 06) :— 

" The gruidaiather of Mn ilied fiHj years ago, 

■t the age ot tirmtj-eight. She had great peraanal 
cbarms, aad among them a head of beaatifol cheataut 
heir. Aft«r her banal ia a family tomb, the cofBa of oae 
ot her childrea waa laid an ber own, to Uiat the lid aeeoia 
to have dacayed, or been broken from this cause ; at aoy 
rate this was the com when the tomb TU opened, about 
a year ago." 

Hawthorne wrote on Good Frida;, 1854 : — 

*■ The grandmothBr's coffin was then fonnd to be filled 
vith beuitifU ghway living chentnat rioglets, into which ' 
her whole snbBtance seems (o have been tranafonned, for 
there waa nothing else but these shining curls, the growth 
of half a century, in the tomb." 

A remarkable instance to the contrary will be 
found in Sir Henry Halford'a account of the open- 
ing of the coffin of Charlea I. in 1813. (The Life 
ofJamei II., by the Bev. J. S. Clarke, LL.B., 
vol. ii. App. iy. pp. 669-70.) 

'^The pointed beard, bo characteriAtic of the period of 

there^of King Charles, vas perfect The back 

part of the scalp was entirely perfect, and had a remark- 
My fresh appearance— the pores of the skin being more 
distinct, ss they oanally are when soaked in moisture ; 
and the tendoni and ligaments of the neck wen of con- 
siderable satffitance and firmness. The bair was thick at 
the back part of tlie head, and in appearance nearly 
black. A portion of it, which has since been cleaned and 
dried,is of a beaatifiil dark brown colour. That of the 
beard was a redder brown. On the back part of the head 
it waa more than an inch ia length, and bad been pro- 
bably cut so short for the convenience of the executioner, 
or, perhaps, by the piety of friends soon after deMh, in 
order to furnish memorials of the unhappy king." 

The indestructibility of hair is shown by the 
fact that at the same time a portion of Heniy 
VIU's beard was discovered to "remain upon 
the chin." 

It may be thought that the moiat condition of 
King Cbarles's bead prevented the posthumous 
growth of his hair. But as a seneral rule m(»»- 
tnre induces hur to ktow. At Whitby, last year, 
a young man* was drowned while bathing, and 
his body earned out with the tide. At the flood, 
two or three days aft«r, his remuns were re- 
covered, and bis hiur was found to have grown 
between three and four inches, 

S. B. TownsHEHD MlTBR. 


e, (or obviona reasons, I do not give. 

Barbara, Duchzss of Clevblard (4*" S. v. 

401.) — Your correspondent Q. S. S., who is en- 
gaged upon a life of this lady, asks for evidence of 
her " BBserted residence at Chiswiok." In a MS. 
note of Horace Walpole'a (penes me), I find it 
Stated — "The Duchess of Cleveland died at hur 
house at Chiswick of a dropsy, Oct. 9, 1700." 
And the burial legisten of the pariah (which I 
had occasion to consult some time since) record: 
" Barbara Villieis, Duchess of Cleveland, Oct. 13. 
1709." Edwabd F. RmBATTLT. 

Ait diedited Elboy bt Olivsb Qouwhith 
(4* S.vii. 9,)— It would he indeed "poorQoldj," 
as your correspondent "Mooblass Lad" styles 
bitn, if in 1770 he could descend so low as to 
produce such a specimen of the bathos as this 
miserable elegy. Any attempt to foist such trash 
upon the author of the Traveller and the Daerled 
VUlage can only be met as the poetaster was of 

fore, " Muse furcillis pnedpitem eiiclunt " ; aai 
cannot but think that the careful supermtend- 
ence which is generally exercised over what ap- 
peals in "N. & Q." was somewhat at fault when 
such a commuoication as the one I am referring 
to was allowed to pass muster without aome 
editorial comment. I can imiieine the expression 
in the face of my friend Mr. John Forster, Gold- 
smith's admirable biographer, on having the line:! 
MooBiiAHD Lab has produced put before him ad 
a genuine addition to that charming poetiy which 
he has illustrated so welL Jas. Crosslet. 

Outer thb Spy (S-* 8, ii. 21, 87, 862, 523.) 
The name of this character, once so notorinup, 
appears three or four times in your earlier indexes ; 
his subsequent career after he retired from the pub- 
lic gaze on the conviction of Thistlewood may rtot 
be BO well known. In 1820 or 1821 he was sent out 
to the Cape with letters of recommendation for his 
services to Lord Charles Somerset, then governor 
of the colony, who appointed him to the lucrative 
and reaponmble position of superintendent of pub- 
lic worKS, is wWh office he built the present 
English cathedral and Qovemment House at Orsf- 
ham'a Town on the eastern fronUer, two of the 
ugliest buildings that can possibly be conceived, 
and which cost enormous sums of money, the ex- 
penditoie of which could never be very accurately 
accounted for. Oliver died in Cape Tovro in 1820, 
under the name of Jones, his widow survivmg 
him for some years. He was, I believe, the lASt 
of his class nno was rewarded by a handsome 
colonial appointment for his diabolical treachery 
to his countrymen at home. H. H. 



** 8. Tn. Jax. 21, 'TI.] 


OmayrdaiKe to Oie (Arutim Ytar. (Parker.) 
JfuDwi aver " The CArifCiaii Tear" and "Lyra Innif- 

eetaaom." By CfaarloICe Maiy Yonge. To<nlhtT aith 

a fta Gfeaimgt of Recollectiani of the Btt, Join Kebit, 

gatkend by levtml Btnub. (Parker.) 

Hothini ■ ... 

hold whicl 

mind of EngUnd, and bow ieep is the reTereiice in vrhtch 
tbe memoiy ot jobn Seble is beld, not only by Ihose 
irho «nJojed (be btesnng of his fricudtbip, bat bv thoa- 
sandi wbo know bim only bj his irorks, than the tvo 
books whose tilles ire have just truncribal. Nearly two 

ihe world wis famished irith ■ coDcordance to hia writ- 
ingi : and the eatne period, or aearl; so, before the poems 
of Milton recdved the same tecogailion; aad with tbe 
exception of the Lanreate, to whose poems a concordance 
was published little more than a twdvemonth ago, Keble 
it tbe only modem poet so read and gnoted as to call for 
sach an accampaniment to his 
book is of 

itereellng character. It cc 


Hnrslay 'Vionge and its {doas houaehold; but what 
will be very acceptable to all the admirers of Keble, an in- 
tenaUugninniDg com mentary.explaininK all aaions, clear- 
ing up dark passans, aod nnveiling hidden beauties, in 
tbe two setiei of devo^onal poems, which hare leavened 
Ihe reliKiaas literature of the day to aa extent of which 
it il dlfflcnlt to forMce the limit. 

Urn BaydK Striei. A Dietumary of Science, eompraing 
Attromamy, ChtmiMtry, DynanUei, Eleclrieityt Heat, 
Bydndynamia, Byebvttatiei, Light, JUagiutiivi, JHe- 
daxict, JHctecraliigy, Pnetniuiiia, Sound, and SInticl. 
Prteeded by an Eiiaa on the Fhyiiad Seiencei. Edited 
by G. F. Kodwell, F.R.A.S., F.d.S. (Moson.) 
There can be no qnestlon of the utility of hooks of thia 
when properly executed. Tbey are specially 
loi to two clasMS of leaders. Tbey are useful to 
ae who aecatioQally dedra iaformation upon special 
nts of sdentilic knowledge, bnt whose ivocatiooa 
Dot allow them time to demote to a Ihoroogh study 
Uiem ; and th»y are useful alw aa compendinms of 
infonnation for those who in theae days of competitive 
examinatloiu — when everjF'body is expected to know 
every) bJDg— desire to obtam a general, if not thorough 
knowledge eA physical science. It is no wonder, there- 
fore, that Ihe publishers of Haydn's Dictionary of Dalit, 
who, encouraged by the success of that invaluable hand- 
book, have decided on publisbiuff a series of analogous 
volumes, should follow up their Dictionary of Biogtaphy 
with a Dictionary of Soience; and they have done 
wisely in securing in its preparation the seaietance of the 
wveril eminent men whose names are recorded in the List 
of Contributor* which precedes tbe Edilor'a " History of 
the Pbyncal Sciencce.' 

7^ Yortrhirt Areh^otogieal and TopographiealJtmmixI. 
Vol, J., pp. S9^. laued to Membert only. (Bradbury 
and Evans.) London, 1S70. 8vo. 
The first volnme of this jonniBl is now completed, con- 
taining many interesting articles on the Topography and 
Archeology of the greateat and moat intereatmg orEngliah 
connties. Soma excellent illustrationa add moch to tbe 
Tolmne. When we mentton, amongst its contributors. 
>Kh antiquaiiins ■> Canon Raine and Robert Davies, 

Esq., of York, a sufficient guarantee is given of the ac- 
curacy and value of the journal. To add to Oie nsefnl- 
nesa of the book, a most carefully compiled index \i 
1, in which nearly every person and plaice ia 

Sir Johh Maclean. — We are pleased to record that 
the Gazette of Tuesday announces that the Queen had 
been pleased to conAr the honour of Knighthood on Sir 
John Maclean. Deputy Auditor of the War OtEoe ; for 
tbe gentleman in question, who is the author of The Life 
of Sir Peter Carea, published in 1857, and tbe hiatorisnof 
The Deanery of Brigg JUanor, in the county of Cornwall, 
baa been, as oar readers will remember, a frequent OOD' 
tributor to these pages. 

T^K Death of tub Dkax oy CASTERBOar. — The 
Rev. Henry Alfbrd, D.U.. died at Canterbury on Thursday 
week, after a verj' short illntM, he having preached at 
the Cathedral on the preceding Sunday. lu Dean Alford 
the Church of England haa lost one of the most active, 
intelligent, and liberal of her sona ; and if any evidence 
were wanting as to the high character of the hunent«d 
digcitaiy it would be found in the presence at his funeral 
of men of all shades of rehgions opinion. The Bishops ot 
Gloucester and Salisbury, Uie Deana of Westminster and 
Ely, the Rev. Dr. Stoaghtoo, and the Rev. Newman 
Hall, all alike testified by their attendance their sense of 
the worth of this eminent Christian scholar. 

TiiK Abhmolkan Museum.— The new Keeper of tbe 
Ashmolean Museum, Mr. Parker ot Oxford — whose leal 
and knowledge vie with each other — has just published 
the Interesting Lecture on " The History, Present Sute, 
and Prospects of the Collection " under hia charge, de- 
livered by him to the Oxford Architectural and Hla- 
tottcal Society in November last, which our readers will 
find well worthy of their attention. 

lnTEBNAiioirAL ExHiBiiiON OF 1871.— The following 
noblemen and gentlemen have consented to act as jndgce 
to select pain&gs for the forthcoming Exhibition : — 
TheViseonnt Bury, M.P. ; Tbe Lord Elcho, M.P.; Sir 
Coutta Lrndsay, Bart.; AUred Eimore, Esq., R.A. (repre- 
sentiug the Royal Academy) \ Alfred Clint, Esq. (repre- 
senting the Society of British Artists) ; Alfred Hunt, Esq. 
^presenting the Ijociety of Patutera in Water Colours) ; 



Eunnd VwXH^i oil^imaoi Sl«rne, ftom tbe FKlDtlrLEbr Sir Jothoft 
EnnvTed Portnlt oT LAdj Afuy Fe 

An EnamTlna— Tbe gbIj Dauflilcr.bwi cu umriu T. .J 
Wuleil br llH Kec- Jatm Pidtfurd^.A; Boltoi 

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tfottcnf ta <«rrtit|iotiIunU. 

Wt art tampeHfl to poilpone unlS next attk teetHtl 
Notes OD Booki and Bepliea lo Mtcerat CorretpnudeHtt. 
Htberhia. Rathtd, and under comidtration. 


wiB fimd Mil ivlgtet trtattd at grtat lemgth in aumtnnu 
artialei in ow FirMi and Stcoud Seritt. Sec Index. 

W. G (Rlcbmood.) T^mit; Imt tt "X.&Q."2°' 

X. Y. Z. a-KldiMg-i SnlTalk (3 vols. 4M, 1846-8) vW 

F. G.'l ^mirv m (o tir. bat mndt nf prrraUing mail 
palling through tcalli an-l Jfonri ihfuJd be addrattd In 
lis BDiUer. 

R. G. F. (Sindgate.) Wt da tot hm imj yauti^ 

3. C. Will find the informaCim retptdiag Ike mertd 
Jferilli mtnliatid Ay him it Bn/dgt'i Edition tf Collins'a 

t*. ir^llmnMwr.'IraiHf, PTC. 

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L011D02T, SATVUDS T, JAKVAST S8, 1«1. 

CONraHTB.— H* 161. 

HOraSi— Th*Qiul(ariaIte>en Mtb» Biilidilliueam: 
HOamb L«M«ri of tbe AbM d« Fleunr, Count de Mot- 
tUIil >mJiiU«i. as— a BUok-GoUDtrr tieeDd, H -> Pedl- 
BMitf HamtlbeHuloHki]: Buon BiURe, n. — A Ne<r 
liBirnQm PBru.TS''ChliulIsiii»~"01d Father Antic, 
tteliw" — PolkLoTB: FroMOQ thoSbortertlMr — a»t- 
Ikk goe4etl« — EtonMcribsd to Xlunlora Hook — Lord 
AdKio'B Oplnton of GerniinGen«>k — An Iiiwrlplian — 
OaBbu — TbeJtiteJoKph pukn— PuroeH Abbeyud 
tbs Cbetliui BDOiet;. 73. 

OUBRIKS : — Vriut Edition ol the Bbbon' Tenlon wu 
nnd bj th* TrmnilBton or the AutbiHlMdTerfloi] of 1811 r 
T* — " Ari» ! Aii« ! BriUimta'i Bora, Arjn ! "— Au»ttn 
hmilT— Amu of CfaiTlemiae— Tin Dnf Old Woman 
—DeOounr: Kins»l8— Derby PwoeWn— Gentlemen — 
BUmp OlbKMi — Onck Tnoriitlon — I«d« OrlinMoii'a 
Onn Id TewinCfaurebtud— TheCuaof Marj Jobnn 
— Loocaof BijntOD — Lionel Lane, Vke-Adoiinil oT tho 
Fleet, ma — " Mal« BritSDnions" — Sir George Moore — 
"Pboc* fortitsr " — Pnnce PueoUer Uuskwi, Ac, Ti. 

BBFUB6: — American "NMiooal Song." 78 — Ordrelm- 
p«ri>l Aaiatique do Moisle llniienelle, lb. ~ Wrong Datea 
in certain — Forlnilt and SkuUi of Caro- 
Iw, le. — flwWUliiin Koger, KM., BS — Mr. Windham 
and the Bsporten— Legal c:ommonti1ape*,^ni]).Jamei I. 

Bod" — Cbowdfl- — 
Duke or Seat Id Can 
ITotea (Hi BikAb. Ac. 

Ic Lore: Teeth — E.K.H. the 


Knee the appeuanee of my last article in 
"N. & Q." I have been informed that the Mar- 
chen Campejia is engaged upon a history of the 
Stuart family, whiui is to compiiBe a large 
mmiber of quotations from the Oualterio MSs. 
The fint two Tolomes of the -work are, I believe, 
actually printed, and will be pabliehed as soon as 
the otate of the Continent renders undertaldDgs 
of a literary kind tolerably feasible. In the 
meanwhile my readeis cannot feel Bunirised at 
my withdniwiDg the promise I had made of for- 
warding to " N. & Q.'' a few specimens of Queer 
Maria of Modena's correspondence. I would not 
OD any consideration whateyer, even seem to taki 
away from the interest of the MarcheBa's book 
aBdtheQuAlterio1US9.areBOiichiadocnmeDts of 
all kinds that I can draw upon them for many 
piquant paragraph without eo much as alluding 
to the Stuarts. Tbe following letters refer to the 
fajetary of Fraoce, and the one I publish first was 
aUi^saoi to Cardinal Gualterio bytheAbb^de 

it post of goremor to the young 

Je me ttitte qua V. E. n'a pu tootVfaJt oubM im 

icien wrvileDT qa'elle honoroit de see bont^ et qui a 
inoara Tail nne profeBaion particaliire de lai £tre atU- 
i6. J'a;r rhmoeiu d'escriiB & Sa Saintetri poui abtooir 
d'elie nn iadolt poor conf^rer ea commende tons lea 
prieard d^pendanta de nnn abbaye da Tournna.* Ja 
ania oblige de ma servir de plnsieura gens de leWrea pour 
r&iQcatioa do Roy, et ja ne poia leor faire aneanWen 
qoB par le moyen da cat indoll. Si V. E, Monedgneur, 
veut bien m'accorder' Thonneur de aa protecliwi dans 
calls ocea»ioii,j'«ptre qne S( Saintel^ ne ma reTonra 
pas cette giice, de laqaeQe certainement ja ne veaz faiia 

3q'ud bon nsage. Le Boy ae porta par&ilemeat bien, et 
onne de grandee eap^raacee. Je profite avec plaiair de 

V. £., et raaaarer du re8pMtD«Dx attachemeot avec le- 
qaelje serai touta marie, 

le tris-hnmble el Iris-ob^iasant aetvitenr, 
A. F., anoien ^Teqoa de Fr^qs. 
Paria, te 1* mara 1717.1 

M. de Morville, the author of the next letter, 
had been ambassador, and then Secretan of State 
for tbe Navy; hia colleagnee in the adminiatrt^ 
lion organised after the death of Cardinal Dubois 
were M. de Maurepas, M. de Breteui], and M, 
d'Argenson, ail young men, like himself. (See 
Bar^'t Joynu^, Charpw.tier's edition,!. 297.) 
A Tersaillea, IT aooat 172S. 

Je regards, MooadgDanr, comme nn des premieii, et 
en mime tempa, comme an dea plua agrSibles soina du 
miniatttre que la Bof m'a coaM, celnj d'informar votre 
Em°* dee cbaneemena auxquela la mort de M. le Card' 
DaboiB a donn^ lieu dans lee diapoaitiona da goaremO' 
ment. Le R07 a remia VadmlniBtratian g^nfrala dea 
affaireadasonrOTanmehH.leDuc d'Orl^ana.qoi a bieo 
vooln accepter le litre et ae charger dea fonctiona de 
premier minietre. Sa Hajest^m'aen mema temps bonord 
de celuj de aecr^talre d'^ac dea afiurea ^traag^ies, poor 
ex&nter sous lea ordres el soua lea yens de §. A. K. ce 
qaipeut ; avoir rapport. 

(Tasl SODS ca titJe et sooa celaj de I'homma dn monda 
qai parte an pins baut point la veneration, le z^le et la 
iKvonement pour V. Em"» que je la aapplia da ne ma pas 
lefuaer lea secours qu'elle vouloit bien denner h mes pi^ 
d^ceSBeuni dana cet important emplov, par celte corras- 
pondanca oil ils out puia« si soavent lea avis et las con- 
Bcila lea plus utiles au aarrice du Boy, C'eet una giaoe 
qne je demande tr^lnstaioment & V, Em~ en Inyprotes- 
tant quej'en auray la plus parfalte recoDneiasance. 

Je TOudtois bleu qua la coujoDcture ojl nous noua trou- 
vons melalssit tout la tempa n^cessaire poor r^pondre 
die anjourd'huy ii calles de ses lettrea dont M. le Card, 
Daboia ne lay avoit paa marqu^ la r^ption \ elle recon- 
_,..„.. „.. — =!_, .!,_ .1,^ port* aveo 

d'nn mi^moire coDcemant M. la Due de Comia, dea inU- 
r£la duquel je me feray un objet capital, comma de tout 
ce qui aura rapport k ceni da V™ Em" ct b sa aatis- 
factioo. C'eat ca dont je lasupplie d'etre penuad^ et 

* Flanry had reaifpied bia bisbopric in'order to be 
nearer Madame de Hainlenon, irho iras at the bngbt of 
her poner, and he had accepted as aoompenaatJOD tbe 
Abb^ orjouniDB, in Bargandj. Sm Smt^im ' 





Cardinal Gualterio was, m we see, the faithful 
and indefatigable adviaer of the French Crown 

on matters of foreign policy; his cor" 

experience gpave the utmost value to t 
Bpondence which he carried on with the 
Bt VerauUeB and their a^nts abroad; and his 
■well-known partialitj for France had transformed 
him into a kind of uon-official chargi iTaffaira, 
whose duty it tras to watch ttie procaedings of 
the coalitJOD, and to keep up a leeltDfr ofcor- 
diality between the Pope and His Most Cbristiaa 

Unrville writes to him, it will be observed, in 
a tone of great obeequioueness : — 
Je ne peax ma dlapenwr, MonseigncDT, de marquee 

encore plus particuli^rement i Voir- "-' — 

billet edpu^ coriibieii je tuis touchi! di 


re. J'ai fiit part i. M. le Garde dea Seesaw f 
n'a fait la Rrllce de m'^crire ; il y eat pluH ser 

u'il parta|;e bien viTement arec may la ri 
:ocHie je " """" 

lui I 

A juali 

IS la rsUlion que i'au 
ie CDtifiauce hbdb bori 
le ma conduite, et a 

Emineuce le ti6a>buinb1e et 

k Vocre Eminence, 

ana la plane danlje auts re- 

» en Yotre Eminence sen U 
e paroitra loujoura le seul 
jrvir pour remplir dignement 
tny et i. Son AUeaee Rnyale 
lupplie done Voire Eminence 
et de croire qae peraonne an 

De M or villi. 

A Teraaillet, ce Si aapl' 

The fourth letter— the last— which I shall gire 
here, is one of the most interesCing- in the whole 
series ; it was written to Cardinal Gualterio by a 
well-known personage, Julien, who, after having 
been a Protesljint, and even received a colonelcy 
from the Prince of Orange (William III ), had 
Tetumed to France and embraced the Komnn 
Catholic religion. Court says of him — " Sou z^le, 
amer et bigot, ne liussoit rien a d^airer a cet ^gard. 
Lea Protestants n'eurent pas d'ennemi plus redou- 
table." (ffitt. de la Guerre de« Civame>, vol. i. 
153, 164.) Julien plaved a conspicuous part in 
the persecution directed against the Camisards. 

J'>nirayiFaria,nion Incomparable Seigneur, le IS 
dn Gourant, et hnict jours aprfea ie vina i, «eKe belle 
campagne, oil nous pawons agr^blement Ie tempa, ^loi- 
gni! dea diKoura ennuTsnx et liulea qui aa d^itlent h 

Paris enr la mibh^ gfn^rale, Bnr U ruetf d'ar^nt,et 
ear ta continuation de la guerre lorsqu'on ae flattoit de 
celta paix tanE ii»\iit, et qui a eat^ rompne depuls pea, 
conime je vaia avoir I'lionneur d'aprendre k Voire Emi- 
nence. Ella aura aceu <("« M. da Toroy 6Unt k La Have, 
et que le IS may milord Halbourong y ^tant arrivd 
aveo milord Tonsaend [tic in the mannaoript j it ahonld 
be Townaend] pldnipotentlaiiea d'AngleCerre. lea con- 
f^rencea commenc^rent le 19 eatre cea dens measlearg, 
U. de Torcy, U' BoailU, lea trola pensionnairea d'Hol- 
lande, H. ie prince Eug^e, et rambaaaadeni de Savoye, 
ce qui continua chaqne Jonc. Le 31, le comle de SioHU- 
dorf ariiva k La Haye et entia le meame aoir dana leg 
lonferenoea qui avoient eat^ tenuea pen de joura anpa- 
lavant deux fob par jour. Endn, pour conper court, 
M. de Torcy demanda k cea meiaieurs lea articles par 
Aitil, adn qn'il lea portit aa Roy pour a^avoir ai S. M. 
tea voudroil aigner, et CB miniatre eatant arrivrf le 1" du 
courant k Venailles, il y ant conaeil le 2 aoir et matin, oil 
cea articlea furent truuvea ai dura et meame ai injarieux 
it la peraonne du Roy, que S. M. ne put ae n<eaudre & lea 
aigner, de aorte que tout tourne k la guerre el plna k la 
paiit. Toicj-, k ce qu'on pnblia k Faria, I'artiole easentiel 
eur tequel le Roy a rempn. II est question de faire revenii 
Pbilippe V d'Espagna dana deux moia, el de donner pour, 
eearete et otags Bayonne. Pampelune. Fontarabie et 
quelqnea autrea places' en Flandres fronti^rea de rArtoia, 
toates lesjuellea placea reateront am ennemia ai au bout 
de deux muis le Roy d'Eapagne n'est paa rerenu en 
France, leaqnela ennemia pgutronl continuer la gaerre 
contra nous, et eomme le Roy n'est pas maitre de fairs re- 
venir le Roy aon pelit-fila, quand meirae il y empluierolt 
la force, lea deux moia ne auSiroient paa. et nous anrioas 
Hvr^ lea pottea de notre Royaume aux ennemis. V. Kid'* 
volt bien que cet article ne peut eatre ex^uli! da la part 
du Rov, maia S. M. s'engageoit de parole 4 ne aecnurir 
pina le Roy SOD petit-fik 11 y a nn autre article anr le- 
quel le Roy anroit eu peine de ae r^udre, c'est I'artide 
concemant te r^iabliiaement de ledict de Nantea, qua 
lea ennemia demandent. On pretend qn'ile laiaaeut I'op- 
tion au Koy, ou de Ic r^tablir, on bien de permettre tant 
k eeux qui aont aortia, qu'& ccux qui voudront sortir, de 
vendre pendant SO ann^ea leurs bieus, et ae retlrer dkos 
le pays Granger. A l'%ard de toua les aulrea artiolee, ila 
aont aasei dura, puiaqu'il s'agit de nous remeltre aux: 
Iraitda dea Pyr^niSes et de Miinster, k la demolition de 
Dunkerqae, de Bergnea, de ThionvillF, il donacr qudqae 
portion da baat Dauphin^ aa due de Savoye ; touta 
I'Alaace, et meama ce qua noua aviona avaut le traits de- 
Uuneter. It y en a qui aieurent qa'on ne demande paa 
la Francbe-Comptf. Un verra lenra iryuatea pretentions 
dana un manil^te que te Roy doit donner an public, et 
cependant on eg prepare k conlinner la guerre, Non- 
obatant la rarel^ dea denr^ea, Uieu veuille qu'it ua 
ienne una famine dana ce royanme, et que lea enaeiiii& 
e aoyent anasy henreux en Flandrea eetta campat^e 
n'ila I'ont iti lea pnfc&leatea. Cast le mareachal tie. 
'illara qui commande notre arm^ Manaeigneur n'y vs 
plus, non plus que M, le Due da Bour^rogne en Alsace oik 
commande le mareachn! d'Harcourl, M. de Beaona an £a- 
pagne,ayanteat^ declare' avant-hiermarescbelde France ^ 
aana doute qu'il y gagnera ce bSton, De voa chferea nou- 
vellea, mon incomparable Seigneur, je prie V. Emo 
d'ontonnar que voa lettrea me aoient tomonia adress^es 
il Avignon par le pMon de Rome on de G^nea ; le CDmt« 
d'Urban aura aoin de lea retirer, et da me lea envo^er ^ 
Paris, oil je eompte de reater juaqu'en aouat. que ja re- 
gignerai Orange, a'il platt au tieigneur. Le plus aensibl^ 
plai^r qneje puisae avoir, c'eat d'apprendre le bon £tat 
dela aanli! de V.E(ii°*, et que la Pape I'aconBol^ detou^ 
I(« malhenra qne la dnrel^ et Injustice dea Imp^rlau^ 
Tous a attir^ pour avoir ^l^ trap fidella b Sa &*« ofc 

4'*S.TII. JiB. 28,T1.] 



Diea >olt lou^. et me donm 
Taiiun V. E. d« I'lttachema 
tueas Bvec leqad je leiay t, 
de Votra Emiaaux, 1b trta-hi 

Gdflle, tenure et r«9pec- 
e ma vie. MonseigDeur, 
ble«t Icte-oMiaaant aet- 


Mes unities icy an bravo Tamisu ... . . , 
tUttbitt i V. B. Me« rEspeoto et oWiaMnces, a'il vona 
pUit, ft meBsiean Toa frferea, & M. le Cardinal Aquarlva, 
«l k U. de Piaanj qaand vous lui ifcrirez. Moaaeigneur. 

J'adrerae celle-cy k M. VnbM de U Tour, <<vlque de 
CavailloD, et eovoye i, Avi};non i Mad' de Guyon la 
mvr« le piquet, la piiaat de le faiie mettre an pddoa de 

■nla, ttia dismal 

.ing the last few 

i of tbe reigD of Louis XVf. is certunly 
cimous enough. Qustate Massok. 



Early in the present centuij,t when Bilston 
v&a A long stnggling Tillage with one mnin 
etreet, which form^ e, put of tbe mul-road front 
LondoD to Chester and Holyhead, the Bull's 
Head (adrertiaad for sale Lady Bay, 1870) was 
the principal inn of the place, and a well-known 
hostelrie on the old Irish route. It was Daturallj, 
and almost as a matter of course, the house at 
which the town worthies were wont to meet, 
diink good wholesome home-brewed ale out of 
the Stafinidshire black glazed pots, emoke their 
long Broseley pipes, and talk over Uie politics of 
thedajand tne tittle-tattle of the ndghhouthood. 
One bright sununer's eve, while thus pleasantly 
ei^*g«d in the modest smoking-room (coffee- 
Hioma had not as yet come into existence), a 
gentleman rides up to the door, followed hy his 
servant with tbe saddle-bngs. There is, of coune, 
great curiosity amongst the assembled guests to 
know who the stranger may be ; and from the 
communicative valet they soon learn that ha is 
an Irish officer en route to London. They become 
immediately desirous of his company amongst 
UiemMlvea, both for society and news' sake; but 
the gentleman unaocially keeps his own room 
tipataua. So that at last, driven to desperation 
ami perchance somewhat pot-vnliant, one of the 
(ompauj, Mr. Edward Woolley of StonefieldB, a* 

• Brit. Hus, AddlL MSS. 20,336. 

t Bilston wu It this time the village of tbe Block 
CoimlrT, poaseasing the well-known Icn-yard aeam of 
coal, which proved the making of the diatrict, but la now 
TMlud out ; and having a larger trade in bnckles, 
VQoden screws, Ac, than Wolveriiamptcn ilaetf. The 
third Gaoige gave an impetaa lo it* declining trade by 
wtsring a bnckle of Bilston make; and eueh was his 
nqeaty'a affection fbr oar connty that on one occasion, 
Wkao a nbbei; had been committed, he said : " Oh ! if 
m • ataflbrddiice man that has done it, take no uotiCB 

Bcrew-maker (i. e. of iron screws for wood), sends 
up the servant with his chronometer, to ask tha 
Irishman if he can tell what time it is by an 
English watch. Qreat anxiety ensues as to the 
result Presently the aervant returns with his 
master's compliments, and he will be down 
directly with the watch and an answer. .4 great 
shuiHing of feet is heard overhead; and by and 
by appears Mileuus, foUowed by his body-guard 
bearing a tray with the watch and a brace of 
pistols on it. He unheailatingly announces that 
he b come to challenge the owner of the watch, 
and hopes he will have the "dacancy" to claim 
it and take up one of tbe pistols. (To the ser- 
vant: "Take the watch round, John I ") "Is it 
yours, urF" The old doctor, Moss, was the first 
thus addressed; and amongst others present were 
Messrs. Price and Bushbury. " No, sir I " was 
the invariable answer from each put to this cru- 
cial test. At length it comes to uie owner : " la 
the watch yours, sbP" "No, sir!" "Well 
then, John, smoe no one will own the watch, put 
it in your pocket ; and as we do not appear to 
have fallen amonf;: 'jintleraen,' bring out the 
horses, and we'll nde on another stage." The 
tale of course soon got abroad, and to the end of 
his career poor Woolley, or rather " 'Oolley," as 
he was more generally called, was accosted with 
" What's o'clock, Mr. 'Oolley P " Only within a year 
or two of his death, while riding along quietly in 
his carriage, a young urchin thus annoyed him ; 
and in getting out to make a dasb after him, poor 
"'Oolley "was upset and grievously injured: so 
that he had gooi cause long to remember the 
loss of his " family turnip," and his prestige of 
Quixotic combativeness. Sta^ffokdiehsis, 


Hume the historian, in the autobiographical 
fragment he left behind him, states that he was 
of good family "both by father and mother: 
my &ther'a family is a branch of the Earl of 
Homes or Humes, and my ancestors had been 
proprietors of the estate, which my brother 
possesses, for several generations " (p. S). Tha 
name of the family estate was Ninewells, and its 
last male possessor was Bavid Hume, a Baron 
of Exchequer, and tbe author of CommeiUariet 
upon the Criminal Law of Scotland. By the death 
of the baron's only son Joseph, which occurred a 
short time after he passed advocate, the succes- 
sion opened to daughtera; and it is believed that 
the estate now b in possesuon of a son of one of 
these ladies. 

Although the Humes of Ninewells had been r 
for at least three centuries in possession of that ) I C 
estate, the assertion that they descended from a 
branch of the Earli of Hume cannot be accepted. 



[4"'S.VII. JAr.M.TL 

There 18 no legal evidenee of the fust, and the 
circumataQce that ia 1636 Andrew Hume of Nine- 
mlla was with James Quhjtehead, one of the 
baillies of the prior of the monaaterj of Coldiag- 
ham, militates afvinat the historian's aMumption. 

One of the duties of a baron bailtie was to give 
obedience to tbe preceptor command of aninerior 
to infeft and give posaeesion to a vassal of lands 
lield of the oTer-lori. Thus Adam, prior oi 
Coldingham, gare prec«pt to Andrew Hume of 
Njnewells and James Qujtehead, or Whitehead, 
on Janoarr 34, to give sasine to Sir Walter 
Ogilvj of Dnnlugns and Alison Hume, bin spouse, 
of one-half of the lands of Lnmniaden, nunc nun- 
atpat. Faatcastle, in the barony of Coldinfj^iAn] 
and ghtre of Berwick, 

This mandate was obeyed iipon Janturj 26, 
16S6, and the fact was certified by a nolaiy 

The charter, which is tbe warrant for the pre- 
cept besides the conrentoal seal, has the sabscrip- 
tions of the monks. It is also addressed to James 
Whitehead and Andrew Hnroe of NinaweUs aa 
haHUti oi the prior and convent. 

The Hamea of the border were more ^ven to 
warlike than peaceful pursnits; and it ia not 
probable that any of the cadets of the family 
would humble themselves to beoome baron baillies 
of tbe prior and convent of ColdinghMU. When 
held by the functionary of an earl or baron, the 
baillie had wtthin that juriadictioD of the over- 
lord great judicial powers, being aubatantjaliy the 
commiaaioner and representative of hisraMter,and 
as such could adjudicate in all civil and certain 
criminal eaaes. To discharge the duties of such 
an office required a degree of education and 
legal knowle<^ which could hardJy be expected to 
be found in a moss-trooping family. Indeed, baron 
bMlliee were generally the legal advisers of the 
baron, and were mostly brought up like the cele- 
brated official of tbe Baron of Brsdwardine, as 
writers, AngUei attorneys. 

It must not tharefore be imagined hy Southern 
tenders that a Scotiah baron baillie or baiUlf is 

come irom the pen of hia majesty's phytidan, 
Br. Patrick Anderson, was presented to public 
notice. We give the title from the first edititai, 
printed in black letter, and supposed to be oniqaa: 
" The Copie of a Baron's Court, newlj trandatid by 
WbKts-yon-callrhim, Clerk to the lame. Priated at 
Htlitim, beside Pamtatta, and are to be gold in Cale- 
doaia." (TiTClTe leavu, black letter.} 

In this dramatic production the cluef peribnneia 
are the baron, hia lady, his chamberlain, hn 
tMuUie, bis clerk, his officer, and his teoanta j and 
the plot turns upon the relative duties of the par- 
ties — not forgetting the frailties of the great man, 
hia pecunia^ difficulties, hia lady'a Allies, the 
trickeries of'^ those under him, and the vices of 
tbe time — and presents a curious and probably 
tolerably accurate picture of tbe portion of too 
many of the lesser borons prior to the death of 

This amusing production was reprinted at the 
beginning of the last century at Edinburgh, and 
in 1824 by David Webster— a remarkable man ia 
his way, much patronised as a vendor of old and 
curious books \y Sir Walter Scott, Principal 
Lee, Archib^d Constable, and other collectors of 
literary rarities. To this edition Webster prefixed 
short preface and added explanatory notes. It 
I now quite out of print. 
Whether the historian's ancestor could claim 
any relatioBabip, or any other connection othar 
than that of a clansman of the haughty Barons of 
Hume, is problematical; but that he was a male 
descendant of Andrew Hume of Ninewells, a 
baron baillie of tbe prior and convent of Cold- 
ingham, is plain enough ; and the inheritance of 
an estat«, especially in the Mcrse, for consider- 
ably more than three centuries in the same fa- 
mily, is in truth something to be proud of, and 
much more eatiBfactory than any remote relation- 
ship, supposed or even real, to the higb-bom 
Humes, who, it will be remarked, had no earl' 
dom until 1604. J. M. 

which a counsel learned in peerage lore 

fell into, to the amusement of hia hearers from 

the North. On the contra^, the baillie required 

to be well educated, and a man with whom the 

faaron could consult and advise tthen it was re- 


In Scotland there used to be. in former days no 
small fondness for satire, as is evident from the 
gTMit variety of pasquils and equibe of that de- 
scription which have been preserved, and many 
of which have not long since been collected and 
published. The faarou and his baillie were not 
allowed ,to remain nndisturbed, as in the reign of 
Oliarlesl. the foltowing work, uuderatood to have 

Ah an illustration to Mr. C. W. Bikbhah's 
communication referring to " the unbroken self- 
confidence which tiie French, like the Atheniana, 
have ever retained amidst the greatest diaaatera, 
I beg to enclose a song which I received per 
balloon-poat^ with a note mentioning that tbe 
same superseded the "Marseillaise": — 
O mon Dieu 1 la faim me presse ; 
Je donnerais pour une bifteck, 
La prindpaut^ de Heaae 

Et le grand-duch^ de Tack. 
Je donnerais & cette henre 

Le dudid de Penigny 
Pour nne livre de beurre 


Bretagne ou d'larigny. _:; Q Q O [ (^ 

*»8.TIL Jaw-M,-;!.] 



Oh t y«aago qnand je penee 

Que le mai^ehfLl Lebceuf, 

Lusement e'empUC k pEuise, 

£t que je n'ai pas iin ceuf. 

Je Tois toujoun dana mes sooges 

La iMneherie I>uval 
Arec sea filete, ses louses, 

Kemplscfo par du c&eval. 
Ls IMfenae Nationale, 
B'ime liMrale main 
De chaiogne nous rdgnle, 

Fouraujomd'liui; m&U demain? 
Ces bieos que Bieu nous envoie, 
Lftpia de gontti^ ou cliieo, 
Je laiBserfus avec joie 

Four ddcouper du FniBBiea. 
TiiBse humoiotis lines, which are perhaps the 
notes of the expirmg swan, are anoajmous ; but 
I MD iucliaed to think that tbe^ were composed 
by a ;oung lieaUtiaiit of eagineera, who waa 
^rtl; educated in London, and fights now in 
Paris in the edacity of an electrician. 


CsQiA Masia. — The mania for cbioa, which 
it at present raging, is no new taste, as the fol- 
lowing curious extract from an old connti]' paper, 
7ii« Wettem Flying Post and Sherborne and Yeovil 
Mtraay, will Badafy the readeiH of " N, & Q." : — 
"PIymooth,Feb. la, 1760. 
"Uanr people in tii«*e parta ire ' Chiaa mad' ; thsy 
don't onlf Isj ont all the moaey tiiey are oirners of, 
bat CTen Pava thrir Cloaths to go on board the Cbina 
Ships to bay Tea Cops and Sancera. Nothing a more 

"■— ^-"oto the Nation than the China trade; In the 

~ e Goodi are chiefly pnreha»ed vlth Treiunire, 
; naoadl;, tba importation of China pre- 

rmmptioo of our ttone ware — Tea, the Con- 

. »i of MaltLiqDor — Wrought ellk the Consamption 
of onr own mannfactarvfl — And Luttj, now two thiraa of 
I the Poei'i labour ia expended In Tea and Sugar." 

H. W. D. 
I "Old Fathbb Autic, thb Law," — Some few 

Iftws still remain unrepealed in the statute-book 
which at the present iaj are more honoured in 
tfa« breach than in the observvnce. The parliS' 
OMtita of Charles IL, Wilti«m IIL, Anne, «nd the 
first and third Georges seem to have conaidered 
the subject of buttons to have required legislation, 
■fl Tarioua mactmenta of these reigns tell us what 
battons to wear and what to avoid. Thus bj 
10 Will. HL c 2, no poreon may nee or sell any 
battflns made of doth, serge, drusget, flie^e, or 
camlet on pain of paving forty ahimnga for every 

IAatMB. Buttons Blade of wood were evidently 
I emidered prejudicial to the intereste of society, 

far the Mitor who malieR, sets oo, or sells any 
loeh forfeite for^ shillings for every doira. 
Agijn, by 6 Anne, c. 6, it is prohibited to nujce 

either bnttons or batton-holee of doth,, mi^, 
drugget, Meze, or camlet under a penalty of five 
pounds per dozen. 

The next enactment is that of 4 Qeo. I. c. 7, 
which, as a commentator remarks, is so looae and 
ungrammatical in its garb that it might have been 
made by the tailors and button- maliers them- 
selves. By this statate the penalty ia reduced to 
fuT^ shillings, and a power is conferred on the 
magistrates of sentencinR the offender to impri- 
sonment ; and by the Act/ Geo. I. at 1, o, 12, the 
wearer of ctmtrabaud buttons is suhjected to a 
similar penalty. ; Joluh Sbabium. 

Folk Lore : Frost on thb Shortest Dat.— 
The workmen (or delphmen) of the atone quarries 
of South Lancashire e^ that, if a frost sets in on 
the shortest dav and holds out for twenty-four 
hours, there will be frost for the next three 
months. Should this prove true, '»e may now 
expect frost until the end of If arch. 


Scottish SociETiEa. — As Scotland is admitted 
to be deficient in coun^ histories, it baa occurred 
to me (from papers which have come into my 
possesion) that a mass of [reliable materiab 
might be made avmlable for supplying to a cer- 
tain extent the present want by publishing in 
" N. & Q." lists of the earlier membera of the 
following Bodettes, &&, from their commencement 
down to tbe year 1800, or even to 1820, the close 
of George In.'s reign. These lists would gra- 
dually invite useful annotaUons; — 

1. The Society of Advocates. 

2. The Writers to the Signet 

8. The Royal CoUege of Sur^ons (from 1687, 
with any lists of previous prsctitioners). 

4. The Royal CoUege of Physicians (Edin- 

6. Convmera at Trades (Edinburgh). 

6. Lord FroTOsts of Edinbu^h, and Provosts 
of Leith, 

7. Royal Sodety of Scotland, 

8. Matriculations at the ColleEes of Edinhu^h, 
Glasgow, Aberdeen, and St. Andrews. 

0. The Canongate Kilwinning (Masonic) Lodge 
of Edinburgh/ 

Many lest or entirely neglected branehea of 
andent houses might by tbe above means be 
again brought to Ught, and identified with con- 
siderable advantage le Scotch historical literature. 

Stout iboribbd io Thkodobe Hook. — An 
article in the Sptdotor of Jan. 7, 1871, entitled 
" The Author of tbe IngoMiby L»gtn4*," contaim 
the following passage ; — 

* This waa the prot«t]^ of modern Scotch cIoIm. 
Amongat ita members were Johnaon'a Boffwel), Murrav, 
■eeretary to Prince Qtarles, aad other wetl-^nown pubUe 




" An Iiiah BI017, tolJ bj- Theodore Hook, msr com* 
next A gentlflmaa na« dnviog hia serraot iD a cab. and 
Slid to him, half jooalarlv, h«lf ia anger, ' If Ihe galloi"- 
bad Iti due, ron rascal, where would ynn be now '.^ 
'Faitb, then, yoar honour,' was the replv, 'it's riding in 
this cab I'd be, aU alone by mj-self, may be.' " (P. aO,) 

I believe this storr, though in a slightly dif- 
ferent form, is older tlian the ere of Hook. I saw 
it in print in 1827, in a very old quarto Tolume 
entitled the Cotmty Magnzute, where it ran thua : 
" Aa a Tankee so cule and Pidd; quite tlj 

Were riding to town, they a gallows pass'd by. 

Sud the Yankee to Pal, 'If 1 don't miketoo (^ 

Give that gallons iu due, and pray where would yon 

Slid Pat to the Tankee, ' Sure, that'* easily known ; 

I'd be tiding to town by myaeir, all alone.' " 

Wit. Penqellt. 


LoBD Nblmu's Opinion of Okrmah Oexb- 
BiLB. — It will be iaterestin^ at this time to call 
to mind Lotd Nelaon'a opinion of the Gernuui 
generals, as expressed by him in 1795 : — 

"As for tbe German generali, war a their trade, and 
peace is min to them ; therefore we tnnnot expect that 
they should have any wish to finish the war." 

This, it is to be feared, i» widly Applicable in 
the jew 1871. F. C. H. 

Air InbcRIftton. — On an old silver spoon at 
Etwall Hall, Derbyshite, is the following macrip- 

"In dyming bye there was a fall. 
But yet except the goodwill of us all ; 
ThoQghe fortune frouude agsinsl our will, 
Tet hope i we! ind wil dow still ; 
For in 3^* straightea of Hagalan, Captyan Cotton, so 

called by name. 
Caused mee to be nuid in y* monthe of May, 1692 % It 
is Irewe y" 1 aaye." 

UooRLum Lad. 
GoAWBAir. — I was informed the other day that 
between forty and fifty Tears ago, an old lady at 
UqcoIq vore "a chawhan"; and on inquiry I 
learnt that it was " a narrow band with a small 
neat Mil on each edge, and went under the chin, 
irom ear to ear, to fasten the cap on her head." 
Tbe word appears to be compounded of the 

TaB LITE JosBFB Pareb9.— I have been, dnce 
his death, Hoping to see an announcement of the 

fnblication of hia memoirs and correspondence, 
believe his letters would be found as full of 
interest, humour, and good sense as Sydney Smith's. 
Has it never occurred to his daughter or other 
friend to preserve the memory of him by tbia 
means ? Eixcbe. 


CIBTI. — Ifl it not matter of regret that when 

BO much has been done for Fountains Abbey 
by the Surfeea Sodety, so little has been done 
for Fumess by tbe Cbetham SodetyP Would 
it not be better for this lenmed society to discover 
and edit the Coueher-book of Fumesa than to 
expend its funds in republishing scarce tracts? 
(4* S. vi. 149.) The Duke of Devonshire, to 
whom Fumeaa belongs, expressed himself some 
years ago, at an archceolof^cal meeting within its 
walla, fully alive to the sacred trust which had 
come into his hands, and he would no doubt 
render any assistance in his power to further such 
an object. It is possible that the Coucher-book, 
as a whole or in detached parchments, may he In 
his muniment-room ; or if not, a search among 
the duchy records would moat likely be rewarded 
with success. Some years ago the Chatham 
Society published two valuable volumes (the T^an- 
cashire Chantries) copied from the duchy records, 
which are now, or were promised to be, as access- 
ible as the other natdonal records. A. K L. 




It LB stated by many authors, even very re- 
cently, that they used the edition of 1668. Such 
a statement once made is quoted by various 
writers without eiaminatioD. The instruction 
as given by Pettigrew is — " The ordinarv Bible 
readiu the Church, commonly called Thehiihopf 
Sibh, to be followed," &c. No edition is here 
named. As the first edition of the Sishops' 
Version was printed in 1668, tbis date has become 
almost as a part of the designation of the veision, 
and added, as it seems by common consent, to the 
term "Bishops' Bible"; and therefore, without 
examination, it is said that the translators used 
tbe edition of 1566. One author says, "the 
Authorised Veruon was based on the Bishops' 

ibie, 1568." 

I bave compared some chapters in the edition 
of 1668, 1672, and 1602. Aa it may interest some 
of your readers, you have the result of two chapters, 
3 Kings, chap. vii.. twenty veraes. This chapter 
of the 1602 differs in twenty places &om the 1668. 
Tbe Authorised Version follows the 1602 in ten 
of these variations; it follows neither in nine of 

from the 1666, though in this chapter they agree in 
these readings. TaJce a chapter in the New Tes- 
tament, John, cbap. i., fifly-one verses: here the 
1572 and 1802 differ from the 1668 in thirty placea, 
while tbe 160S differs from 1668 and 1572 in one 
place only. Thus, in this chapter, tbe 1572 and 
l6ffii agree in thir^ differences frma the 1568. 

l*S.Vn. Jjs.!8,7l.] 


The Snt isBue of the first edition of 1611 
follows the 1672 and 1802 in fifteen places: it 
follows the 1668 in six pkcea ; it follows ueitner 
edition in nine places ; and it follows the 1602 in 
one place onl; ; total, thirtj-one TariatioDS. 

So that twentj-six readings in our present 
Bible, in only two chapten, are due to the edidna 
of 1602, and not to the translators of 1611 havbg 
alter«d the text of 156B. 

It is very probable that the "ordinary Bible 
read in the Church" in 1603 wa* that of 1802, 
or other late editions, and that but few of the 
&iBt edition then remained in use. 

It was^ DO doubt, well known that the text had 
been reyised more than once aince 1666, and the 
translalora would, aa a matter of course we may 
■nppoee, use the last improved text printed by 
the Idng's printer in large folio. Dr. Cotton gives 
eight e^tiona which were in large folio after 
1668, including that of 1602, whidi were in all 
probability used in churches. Other chapters are 
compared, which afford similar evidence ; and does 
it not show that the edition of 1602 was the 
edidoD of the "Bishops' Bible" used by the 
translators of our prepent Bible, and not that of 
1608 P FuNCisFsT. 

CoihuD, BrlaloL 

" Abisx 1 Arisb t Briiaiiiiu.'b Sons, Abise ! " 
Who wrote the words and compoeed the music to 
this old aea song? The tune is spirited, and 
merits better woras. The song is a favourite with 
oar awloTS, and is often sung to a cracked fiddle 
in the parlours of Wapping " publics." The poor 
otd blind fiddler, who for so many years used to 
scrape his tin violin at the doors of the Bank of 
England, had no other song. N. 

AvsTor Familt. — Among the Pilgrim Fathers, 
or at the same date, some members of this family 
emigrated to the New World, and their descend' 
BDta now occapy an influential position in the 
citf of Boston, Maseacbusette. They posHess an 
old seal, bearing the following arms: Argent, on 
a fesae between two chevronels sable, three cal- 
vary crosaes or. The. arms also bear a label of 
three points, indicating that its original owner 
was the eldest eon, and that his father was stilt 
living when the seal was cut. 

In the little church of Kencott, Oxon, and 
wainst its eastern wall, there is a monument to 
Uary, widow of William Oldswnrth, of Fairford, 
CO. of Oloeter, and daughter of William Austin of 
Surrey. I&r arms, identical with those of Austin 
of Boston, Massachusetts, are impaled vrith those 
of her husband, Oldsworth. I should say that in 
her case there ia no label. 

I am very anxious to trace the connection 
hctween the Boston family and their English 
^weitora, and I cannot help hoping that I nave 
kff« got a cine. 

This Mary Austin died in 1686, a^ seventy. 
She must, therefore, have been bom m 1616, and 
must have been a contemporary with that gener- 
ation of her family which migrated to America. 

Can any of your readers help me here ? Wil- 
liam Austin is described aa "of Surrey." Perhaps 
thecountyhistorymightthrowaomehght. When 
were these arms granted f W. M. H. 0. 

P.S. Mary's son, James Oldsworth, rector of 
Kencott, married Anne, daughter of William 
Mountsteven, rector of Coates, Gloster, by his 
wife Elizabeth, daughter of .Tohn Feiebee, rector 
of Poole, Wilts. 

Akks op CHABEEiCAaHS. — Where can I find 
the arms, traditional or otherwise, of Charlemagne 
and his descendants, including Charles the Bald ; 
Hugh Capet; Geofiiey Plantagenet, of Anjou; 
the counts of Acquitaine; counts of Navarr^ 
Sentia and Vermondois P W. M. H. C. 

Thb Dka? Old Womau. — Can any of your 
readers say who is the author of the four follow- 
ing humorous lines, well known in Scotland P — 
" ' Auld wifie, aDld wifie, will ye go a-sheariug ? ' 

' Speak a 1ill1« louder, elr, I'm noco' ilult o' beanng.' 

' Auld wiHe, auld wlfie. will ye let me kisi ye ? ' 

' I hear a little belter, gir: mav b' the warid bleu ye.' " 


[We do not know the aothor of theee lines. But wa 
remember many yean ago— alas! how many !— hearing 
the late Ur. Donee repeat, in his grand soaorons voice, 

" 'Old woman, old woman, will yon go ■■shearing?'' 
'You Dinst speak a little louder, sir, I'm rather thick 

o' hearing.' 
> Old woman, old -woman, will you let me kisa yoa 

dsintUy ? ' 
* Tbsnk yon, kind air, I bear you quite distinctly.' "] 
Ds CouBCT : KiMsALE. — In one of the earlier 
volumes of " N. & Q." I think that it was proved 
by reference to inquiaitiona pott-morUm, temp, 
:E!dw. U. or III. that one of the Lords Einsale, 
who appears in all the peerages as having been 
succeeded by a ton as next baron, in truth left a 
tole heireii, whose name, t« the best of my recol- 
lection, was Alice. The names and dates vrould 
be an assistance to me in connection with another 
subject. S. 

Derby Porcklaih.— Where can I get any par- 
ticulars of the pottery manufactured at Church 
(Jrealey, in the attempt to establish which manu- 
facture Sir Nigel Qresley is said to have lost 
80,0002^ f Though mentioned in Miss Meteyaid's 
Life of Wedgwood, very little seems to be known 
about it. "=''■' H.W.D. 

GEHTtEMBH. — Will any of your readers inform 
mewbat is the meaning of the word "gentlemen,"^ [p 
as used in the description of the complement of i^ ' v. 



[4*S,VU. jAM.a8,Tl. 

Bisaop GiBSOH. — Wantad, informadon reapoct- 
isK the motber and wife of the R«t. Edmund 
Gtbson, who diod 1748, Bishop of London. The 
wife'B name was Joues, and she was a co-heirees. 
The mother's name I do not know. She is buried 
atBwnpton, co. Cumberland. T. C. 

Gbxbk Truiblatioh.— We read at p. 61 of 
HowAon's lUutlrated Guide to the Carioaiiea of 
Craven (Whitaker, 1860) that a tranalatdon into 
Onek elegiacs, by one Andrew Dennj, of the 

P. J. F. GAMniiOif. 
LAur Gbduiob's Gkavx nr Txwnr Cbuech- 
T&KD. — In the churchy Bid of Tewin, Herts, is a 
lemarkable ash-tze« growiug out of the tomb of 
Ladv Anne Grimston, nit Tuftun, daughter of 
Lord Thaaet, who died in 1718. The tradition is, 
that being doubtful of a future state, she expressed 
during her life a wish or prayer that if there were a 
fvtwe itate a tree might yraw out of her heart. 

What foundation is there for this traditi 

A. P. S. 

[Oddly enoqgh the following parimph, extraeled 
from tbB Spiritual Timci (Dec 23, 1865), bearing on the 
Mine eubject. reached qb aimaltaneously nith the above. 
To ua« lli« words of onr correuiondcat Mr. Axon ; "Can 
Uij one elucidite thia marvdloas leeend ? " No reftt- 
aace to It is mule io Clutlerbuck's Iliit. and Aiitiq, of 


" The churchyard of Tew 

n Hertforc 

e Rating place of the mortal remaios of Lady Anno 
Orimstone. The 'old wife"! tale' of the neighbtnirhoad 
ia to the eStet that the said Lady Anne tirimstane was 
an Athdat, without a ehadow of belief in the Deity; and 
that, 30 Smi was her belief in the nun-esistence of God, 
that at her death-bed her last words were to the eSbct 
that if God exiited, seven elm treea would grow out of her 
tombstone. Whether such words were used, and in such 
a manner, it is impossible at this date to determine ; but 
whether the tale be correct or not, seven elm trees have 
sprung up througb the solid tomb, and bs,ve broken 
awav the solid masonrj- in all directions, msking the 
reading of the inscription a difficult and almost impoasibte 
feaL The iron railings that surrounded the manument 
are in many places firaily imbedded in the trunks of the 
trees. The numerous names carved in all avulable parts 
of the truike atl«t the number of visitors curiosity has 
drawn to the spot. The trees are each distinct and 
separate, and, notwithatandinD the straDgancss of the 
locality, appear to thrive well. Many suppositions to 
account for their growth have been started, but some are 
of so improbable a nature that the country people still 
(Ung to their favourite story of Lady Anne's Atheiam."] 

The Case op Mart Jobsoh.— Can any North- 
of-Eofland cotre^ndent tell me whether time 
hw thrown any bght upon the heavenly music, 
blood-droppiuKs, mock suns, and strange rapmnn 
which excited so much attention in die Nortn 
some thirly years ago, and concerning which Br. 

Clann^ of Sunderland published a drcumetantial 
narrative in 1841 P SooiT. 

3, Gordon TiUas, N.W. 

Loses OP Batstoh.— ^Mi any of your corre- 
spondente kindly inform me where I can find a 
genealogy of the family shore mentioned ? Burke 
{LoKded Oentiy, ii, 864) says, of the four sons (of 
" Thomas Long of Little Che-rerill snd Melksham, 
who was baptised 1679, died 1654), the youngeet, 
William, was ancestor of the Longs of Baynton, 
now extinct" I wish to trace the relationship 
said to have existed between this family and that 
of the late Jolin Palmer, Esq., M.P. for Bath 
and inTentoT of the mail-coach Berrice. Wnlter 
Long, Esq., of Bath, oifered to leave his property 
to Mr, Palmer on the condition of his taking the 
name and arms of Long of Monkton. This Mr. 
Palmer declined doing, and ultimately Hi. Lonp* 
left his fortune (on the aforesaid terms) to Daniel 
Jones (Long), whose mother was Ellen, youngest 
daughter of Richard Long of Rood Ashtnn, who 
died m 1760. H. P. 


1653. — lam desifous of ascertiuning the date of 
this officer's death. In the great battle a^nst 
Tromp off the North Poreland he acted as Vioe- 
Admiral to Admiral Penn, and commanded the 
Victory, sixty puns. I learn from the Rot. J. B. 
Deane's moat mt«resting life of General Richard 
Deane that in the above memorable action only 
one captain besides General Deane was kiUeJ, 
and that, singularly enough, his name has been 
forgotten. 1 suppose Vice-AdmimI Lane may be 
identified with Lionel Lane (of Beocles, co. Suf- 
folk J, who was bom in 1617, andmarried Dorothy, 
one of the daughters of Edmund Bohun, the 
author. He belonged to a Suffolk family long 
seated at Rendlesham Tltuston and Oampsey Ash. 
C. J. KosnisoK. 

"Mela BRriAamcrrs," — There hre some pam- 
phlets published under this name : one curiosity 
IS a letter to the Dilettanti Society on the wor^ 
in progress at Windsor Castle, 1827, sufrgesting the 
removal of all the building except the lower ward, 
and erecting in its stead a palace of dasaical archi- 
tecture. Who was the writer ? C. B. T. 

Tbe foUoninf^ title appears in the Catalt^oe of tlH 

1. r*'.' 

British A 

"Hela, Britannicaa, 

"— 10 tha Sodetv of 

It Windsor. By 

the Dilettanti on the woriu u 
M. B. London, 1817."] 

SiB Qbokse Hookh. — In the Hungerford 
pedif^e in Qough's S^ptddirtU Moautnatt* is a . 
mamage of Elizabeth Hungerford with Sir George 
Moore, Ent. In Hosre's Himgerfordiana, p. 2S, 
he is styled " of London, Knt" Many of the 
Heraldic Visitations, &c, refetred to in Sims's 
Index have been consulted without succeae. Any 
reader who can furnish a clue to the paiticnlar 

«»aTIL Jak28,710 



fftinilv and arms of the aboTa-oamed knight will 
gieatl; oblige a puziled Seabcheb. 

Pris'CB Pttboelbs Mijsea.i;. — I sfaonld be glad 
of any informatdoa about this prince. He wrote 
two biDoka, Semiiatso in Africa and Taar in Qer- 
meaiy, BoUand, and England, Itait, 

Nehexuh Bosbbs. — Wliat ie known of Nebe- 
miab Kogera, -vicar of Meaaiiig and prebendaiy of 
Ely, author of — 

- A Mitroor of Hercv, and that on God's P»rt and 
If an'a. Set cat In two Plrablca : I. Tba F«niteat Citizeo, 
or Haiy Uagdatea'a CooTenloD, &c.; II. The Good 
SanuuiUo, Ac. Londoii : Piintad b; G. H. for Edward 
Brewilct . . . 1640." 


Sawhbt Beasb, the Mah>eates.-— Tlie sub' 

ject alluded to in 4'* S. ti. 437, 6G9, induces me 

to ask whether the chap-book history of the above 

Scottish penonage has any foundation in fact ? 

Stbpheh Jackbon. 

sucosides usb tsb " codbi slkaihioits. " — it) 
a paper by Dean Alford od " The Goepela and 
Modem Critidsm" in the Conttrnporary Review, 
T. 360, there is the followinf^ reference to the 
celebrated Codex StHailicut: — 

"A eorrespondcnt of Tfte Cuorrfinn of Jnne 12 of this 
year [1867] is aniioos to know whether the internal 

factoiy. having had hia failh in that genulnenesB some- 
what 'ihiken by the narretiTe prefixed to this tract of 
Dr. Tisebendorfs [i, t fKa™ umrden mwn-f EvaJ^lkn 
vrrfaat T Leipsic, lS6o, which baa been translated for 
the Belieians Tract Society by B. H. Cowper]. We ate 
pcnaidd Ilut he may set hi» mind at reat on this point. 
Tba text of this MS. bears to us the strongest possible 
marke •>( Driginalily and genalnenees. If any man were 
capaU^ tma his knowlei^e of ancient MSS., of forging; 
aach ■ text, it woold take hia> almoet the daiadoD of a 
lifa (o accompliah the forgery. Besides which, we are 
mable to see in the very straightforward narrative of 
Dr. Tiacbendorf any grounds of suspicion. One friend 
'- — ■- " — "-'i trumpet befere him somewhat lood, 


1. Wei 

1 anxiety — oudis- 

pdlcd bv anytbiag he says at the end- 
the good tnonka of St. Uathcrine have got hack, or are 
Hkely to get back, their prefious document, which was 
bonowed to be taken to St. Petersbnrg.~8ea p. 17 of 
tks OeraBB, p. 94 of tbe tianalalion." 

A diacnnion of this question might perhaps 
iMkd into forbidden ficlda. There is one point, 
hmrever, connected with lischendorf 'b discovery 
OB -which I should be gtad of farther information. 
It ia Raid that Simonides, whose audacity aa a 
fitersry forcer, has been many times mentioned 
IB tliMe ctunmns, asserted that he himself had 
1 the MS. and placed it in the 
err where it was foimd by its learned and 

._ ^__ nf t.w.n«tn«. bv«i 

ftwtn such a muuwiu tu/et as Simonides, should b« 
refuted, but after a long search I have only been 
able to And an alluaion to the matter in Th* 
Aliautum review of the Coifer iSmntftcui. Will 
some correspondent be kind enough to say whrae 
Simonides' assertion is to be found at length, and 
what replies have beeit made to it P 

W. E. A. A. 

Joynson Street, Strangeways. * 

William Skith, 1539-1655.— A certun Dr. 
Smith preached at the martyrdom of Ridley and 
Latimer, and made himself oonepicaous on one 
or two other occasions of a similar character; 
and, from the testimony of another martyr, he 
appears to hare been a pervert. I am anxious 
to discover whether this man was or wag not 
identical vrith a priest of the name of William 
Smith, who was parish priest of Calais, and was 
banished from that city, after recantation, in IS^. 
I have no interest in the preacher of the sermon 
if be be not the same as the Calais priest; but I 
ebould very much like to ascertain what became 
of the latter. Can any one kindly help me ? 


SwoKD OP Sib Edwabd Fust. — Can any one 
tell me what hag become of a ulver-mouuted 
sword which was presented by Charles II, to Sir 
Edward Fust of Hill Court, co. Gloucester, Bart., 
in 16C3, and sold at the Hill Court Bale in 1S46 F 


jAcaiTES Stella (Crabb Robinson's Diary, i. 
44T.)— In the text of this pa^ Crabb Robinson 
mentions a picture _painted in Rome by Granet in 
No. 245), repreaentintt Stella drawing- a picture 
of the Virgin and Child " on his prison wall." A 
note to tbe same page informs the reader that 
Stella on his arrival at Rome was arrested, but 
soon after found iimocent and liberated. Also, 
that "so late as tbe end of the eighteenth cen- 
tury this sketch of the Madonna (on the prison 
wall) was shown to travellers in Rome." The 
note, however, gives no further information. Who 
was this Stella P When did be live, and of 
what crime or misdemeanour was he, as it ap- 
pears, unjustly accused ? 

NOELL Raceclifpb. 

[Jacques Stella was bom at Lyon in 1596, beiuR tbe 
son of Frmtois SteDa, a painter, who died when his son 
was Doty nine years old. Having gone into Italy at the 
age of twenty, the Grand-Dake Coemo II. engii^ed 
Jacques to carry out the deeorations designed fnr the 
celebration of tbe marriage of bis son Ferdinand II. At 
expiration of seveo j-eari Stella 

-acted a friendsliip w: 
milator, Hav' 

he became 
:reaehery or ml^under- . 
* Rome, Stella amused 1 1 (:> 

himself by tracing on the wall, in charcoal, the ilgt 
the Virgin with tbe infant Jeans in her arms. Car 
Barberini, hearing of the exceUenee of 

In-Mad lamo waa 



[*oS.TlI. J4».W,7l. 

•aapmded over it. Retnnline in 16S4 by Venice ud 
Miu.Ti [D Frucr, with the inUntioo of viutine Spain, 

the direction of Ibe Aosdemv tt Milan wm offeretl to Dim, 
bat declined. Hie jouniev,' however, to Spain was frae- 
trated bj- Cardinel Richelieu, who secured him the tills 
of painter U the King, with apartments in the Louvre 
■nd a penaion of 1.000 francs a-ye»r. In 1644 the Order 
of SL Michael and the rank of principal pwnterto the 
king were conferred on Stella, and in 1657 be died at Paris, 
■ome of the cliurches.ot which poesen painlinga b; 

Trench's HuLSKis LKcnniEs, 1840,— Toirhut 
TTOida does the Archbiabop iillude at p. 43 of these 
lectures when he refers to " the p-eat ijoet of our 
modem wotI4 " u maldng " the glfid voices of the 
Sssteni hjmn of potency sufficient to ■wieat the 
poiaoa-cup irom the buid of one who h»d already 
wised it to his lipa ? " P. J. F. GAMxiLLOif. 



(4* S. rii. 11.) 

I hare great pleaeure in fnmiahiiig a copy of 

this soDg, which I bo much admired on its first 

•ppearance in our pitpera in 1813 forita fine poet^ 

and spirited composition, that I have preserved it 

ever since. ' F, C. H. 

" Gjldmdia. 


Cotnmbia e bills are higo ; 
And radely planted aide bj al 

Her forerts meet the eye. 
But narrow mnat those shores be made. 

And low Colunihia's hills. 
And low her aodent forests laid, 

Ere Freedom leaves her Gelds : 
For 'tis the land where, mde and wild. 
She played her gambols wben a child. 
" And deep and wide her streams that flow 

Impelnous to the tide ; 
And lliich and green the lanrels grow 

tta averr river's side. 
But ahoula a transatlantic boat 

Poltnle her waters fair. 
We'll meet Ihecn on the rocky eoast. 

And gather laurels there ; 
For oh ! Colnmbia's sons are brave, 
And free as ocean'a wildest wave, 
" The gales that wave her mountain pine 

trid must those breezes blow. 

That SOD must set in gore. 
Ere footsteps of a foreign foa . 

Imprint Columbia's shore : 
Fur oh 1 lier sons an brave and free ; 
Tbelr broaata beat high with Uberty. 
" For arming boldeat enlrasder. 

We've minea of sterling worth. 
For sword and bnckler, spnr and (pear, 

Embowelled in the earth. 

For ere Colambia'a bod) resigQ 

The boon their fathers won, 

Ihe polished ore ttoia evei; mine 

For brinit'a the blade and sharp the ipeir 
Which Freedom'a sons to battle bear. 
" Let Britain boast of deeds she's done. 

Display her trophies bright. 
And count her laurels bravely woa 

In well-conlasled fight ; 
CatamUa can a ban array, 

Will wrest the laurel wreath ; 
With truer eve and steadier hand. 

Will strike' the blow of death. 
For whether on the land or eei, 
Columbia's fight is victory I 
" Let France In blood through Europe wade. 

And la her frantJo mood, 
In civil discord draw the blade. 

And spill her children's blood. 
Ton dear the skill in arms is bought. 

Where kindred life-blood flows, 
Columbia's aoaa are only taught 

To triumph o'er their foes; 
And than to comfort, soothe and save^ 
The feelings of the conquered brave. 
*> Then let Columbia's eagle a 



The thunder from hi . , 

And lightning from her eye. 

And wben she sees from realms abov^ 
'Ilie slorm of war is spent; 

Descending, like tbe welcome dove. 
The olive branch present; 

And then will Beauty's hand divine 

The never-tkding wreath entwine ! " 



(4"* S. V. 360, 472, 512; vi. 165.) 

Dr. Robert Bisbbt, in his reply to queries by 
Lzs rekting to the above order, referred him to 
M. Gourdon de QenouiUac's IHctiojaiaire hidorique 
del Ordret de Otevalerie (Peris, 1860) for an ac- 
count of its creation ; and Ma. Woodwabd sub- 
sequently conferred an obligation on many of 
your readers by giving (vi. 16fi) an extract fiom 
that work to the eSect that the Oidre Imperial 
Asiatique de Morale Universelle owed ita origin, 
A.n. 1636, to the Sultana Alins d'Eldir during h«r 
residence in France. 

Ms. Woodward perdnently asked certain ques- 
tions based on tbe imperfect information afforded 
by M. Oourdon de Oenouillac, but they have evi- 
dently escaped the notice of Db, Biqsbt, who, as 
e constant reader and correspondent of " N, & Q." 
(vide V. 61S and 615), and as the "Grand Haitre 
Conservstour " of the order (v. 472), would in- 
dubitably, bad he observed Mb. Woodwakd's 
queries, liave readily afforded eihaustive replies. 
And that a full explnoation of certain difficultiea 
is absolutely needed, I venture most strongly to 




ftTcr, nnM, owing to tbe retieencs of the Knights 
of the "Imperial Order" which she founded, 
maoT hud tlungs have been said of late TegardlDg 
an illustrious lady whose conduct has been criti- 
eiaed, whose antecedents have been animodTetted 
npon, and whose exalted tank has been pniuounced 
bj more than one of the would-be coffttotcenH to 
be as mythical as the honours which she is mid 
to bftTe conferred. All this is most lamentable, 
but ie it not entirely to be attributed to the cul- 
pable silence of those bound by every law of chi* 
Tslry to defend herP Now that public attentdon 
has been aroused, contemptuous silence will not 
tatisfy it. The fate of tbe " Imperial Order," the 
honours of its diatinguisbed members, are inex- 
tricably interwoven with the rank, power, and 
dignity of its founder, and must stand or fall with 
them ; and although Dr. Biqsby, in his restricted 
reply to Lex, undoubtedly did say that " for any 
further communicatioD Lbx might look to others, 
aa he cerhunly should not condescend to enlighten 
Ids darkness, yet since the "Grand Maitce Con- 
•ervateur" of an order must with justice be uni- 
Tenally regarded as tbe mouthpiece and champion 
of the confraternity, and nnce the world's ver- 
dict cannot fail to be gravely influenced by any 
further reticence on his part, I do trust that Dr. 
BiesBT will reconsider his somewhat too hasty 

. ._ — , lis less t. 

least, who, from having travelled much in the far 
£ast, as welt as from other reasoue, takes a deep 
bterest in I'Ordre Imperial Asiatique de Morale 
Univenelle. Injustice, therefore, to the deceased 
Sultana, and with appropriate respect for the 
Sovereign Order which she created, I repeat one 
of Mr. Woodwabd's unanswered queries, and add 
certain others of mine own. 

I ask, firstly, in what pert of Asia is situated 
the Sultanate of Eldir? Both of my old-fsehioned 
guetleers fail to help me, and I am not satisfied 
with tbe somewhat vague information given to 
me recently by a distinguished Fellow of the 
Geographical Society, to whom, seizing him by the 
hnttoQ at our club, I propounded the inquiry. 
I should have thought, wuen I accosted him, 
that he was about tbe most idle man in town, 
but he became suddenly animated on hearing 
my questiun, and stating somewhat confusedly 
that Eldir, as everyone knew, formed part of the 
andent dominions of Frester John, he pleaded an 
important engagement in the City, and hurriedly 
took bis departure. But I require something 
more definite than this — the latitude and longi- 
tode, for instance. Secondly, I wish to be made 
acquainted with certain passages in the history of 
"U Sultane Mogols AUna d'Eldir." Was she 
bom in the purple P and if so, from what royal race 
did she derive her august origin ? Was she in ber 
ownrigbt eoTereisiiof an AnaticreatmPor, aaone t 

of the four wives dear to Mahomedan orthodoxy, 
did she reign supreme over only five-and-twenty 
per cent of the heart of the Sultan of Eldir ? 

In the former event, was it the disaff'ection and 
rebellion of her Moghul subjects which drove her 
into unmerited exile and to a lifelong banishment 
in a foreign land ? or, in the latter case, did she 
incur the displeasure of her exalted hut capricious 
master, and escape the fatal sack, tbe deadly 
bowstring, or even the minor evil of the absdsuon 
of ber nose andears, by eluding the vigilance of the 
euDuchawho guarded tbe hated harem P But a 
third and more commonplace cause occurs to me 
for the expatriation of the Sultana ; death may 
have dared to strike low the king of kings, tbe 
monarch of Eldir, and Alina ma^ have collapsed 
into a dowager I Uuder such circumstances bei 
flight would not have been interfered vrith, for 
the sultan who filled the musnud of ber deceased 
lord would have cared too much for the comfort 
of his own wives, commisuoned and non-com- 
missioned, to have (^ven himself much concern 
about the ancient encumbmnces of the zeuanah 
who mourned tbe loss of bis predecessor; and 
Alina, left to her own devices, would have made 
ber way to France, and have found in its gay 
caiatftl consolation in her widowhood. 

Thirdlv and lastly, I seek to know bow, under 
either ot the above supposirioos, the Mogbul ex- 
Suitana Alina, during her impoeed or voluntary 
exile, could legitimately have created in France a 
Christian Order of Chivabry, or, in short, have 
exercised any " imperial " powers whatsoever. 

Dr. Biobby will not consider any apology to 
be due from me for thus spedally and urgently 
calling upon him by name to answer the above 

{[ueries, for in a work which be has recentiy pub- 
isbed he has himself announced tbe high position 
which he holds in the Order under notice ; and 
there can therefore be no discourtesy or impro- 

C' ity in my publicly addressing a public omce- 
rer on a question in which tbe public is 
evidentiy interested. Nay, rather am I con- 
strained to believe that Db. Biosbt will esteem 
it both a duty and a pleasure to guard the honour 
of the order of which he is the " Conserva- 
teur," and to fin^cate the fhme of its illustrious 

But, apart from these supreme conudentiona, 
it is certain that one who has so recently subscribed 
himself in your pages {v. 61C) " Enigbt of St 
Jemes of the Sword, and of other Order^" will 
be only too eager manfully to do his devoir as a 
gallant chevalier, and to shed the last drop of his 
ink in tbe service of Alina d'Eldir. 

by Google 


[V*S.VU.3ituia, 7L 

wbokg dates in certain biographies. 
(4"'S.tL410; to. 48.) 

A simplfl explanntioa will account for whst 
would oui€7mM aeem unjiutifiable oArelesaneM 
on my part in oonnection with in; remarks about 
the date of the Ettriclf Sbepherd's birth, and 
Messrs. Blackie's late edition of his work. At 
tiie baginninc and end of the second Toluma of 
that edition, Messrs. Blackie present narratives of 
the Shepherd's life — a memoir, and an autobio- 
graphy. The work was iaaued in monthly parts ; 
I laid my hands on that part which contained the 
antobiograpby, and in which, without Dota or 
comment, these words occur :— 

" I am the aaeond of four Bans b; the siroe father aad 
mothar — nauMlj, Eob«rt Hoek and Margaret Laidlaw, 
and vrat bom od tbeSBth of Janouy, IiiS." 

As this waa likely, in the late as in the for- 
mer edition of Measra. Blackie's issue of the 
poet'a wrilings, to be allowed to stand aa part 
of the memoir, did I err far in concluding that 
this was the oiil;r statement intended to be put 
forth by the tnographer f Where there are 
two memoirs, tme at each end of a book, most 
readers would, like myself, accept the facts ^ven 
in the Jir^ he fell upon, and would not think 
of waiunff for any further relation in an additional 
biography which might or might not be forth- 

Since I am writing about the Shepherd, I may 
remaik that Messrs. Blackie have retained is 
their late edition of his poems three songs which 
I showed in the first edition of my ^oottuh Min- 
strel (1866) were composed by others. ' iThese 
are — " Is your war-pipe asleep^ and for ever, 
UcCrimman P " "0 saw ye this sweet bonnie 
lassie o' mine P " and " Bise, rise. Lowland and 

Ettrick hard tbe three song-writers seem to hare 
sent compositions for approval, and their songs 
being found among his papers at his death, were 
included among his posthumous writings. The 
mistake was Tenial, no doubt, but when corrected 
it ought not to have been repeated. Otberwiae 
Messrs. Blackie's edition of the Shepherd's works 
is piepaied creditably. 

Charlbs Booebb, LLJ). 
Soovdoim Tills, Leirlsbam, S.1S. 


(4* S. Ti. 324, 392, 507, 548.) 

I am quite unable to discover the " proofs " or 

" undeceptioDS " which Mb. Pihkbrton professes 

to give in his latest communication nommally on 

and unjust to Ireland, which is not at all un- 
common among the nativea or ib.e pretended 
nativra of (hat great and just and now universally 
respected country, from which Ma favours are at 
present dated, and " uadeceptions " which all 

subject and eschew petaonalitiee, but be a littla 
consistent with himself, even suppose in expressing 
rash or erroneous judgment. 

However, aa Mr. Phtkertoit appears to put in 
an argumentum ad mierrioordiam m stating he is 
" away from the bulk of bis books at present, and 
cannot speak so positively a* he could wish," and 
that on the veiT subjaot at issue, I suppose I 
must not be too nard on him, though the question 
naturaUy augceste itself, why then has he written 
at all P 

To assert as he does that " the skulls of Irish- 
men never produced a saleable article " until the 
bones of die dead began to be exported to bonnie 
Scotland, and to the other great and " universally 
respected" countrv, may be very tasteful or very 
witty, or at least facetious ; but it certainly is not 
tme, or even to the purpose. For instance, the 
heads of Edmund Burke and of his friend Gold- 
smith, of Swift, of one Henir Giattan, of a person 
called Tom Moore, of Berkley, of Boyle, and of 
some few other Irishmen, have imdouhtedly 
" produced saleable artidee " in abundance, thougk 
the possessors of them were not quite so com- 
mercially minded as to sell their country into the 
bargaio, which we have no doubt some of the 
rmtvun bouiiquiire would not scruple doing as part 
of their trade. 

Again, Mr. Pinkxbton's innocence — the word 
ignorance would not he polite^of Irish history, 
which has led him to make the discarded and dis- 
credited statement that there were few, if any, 
national harps in Ireland in the seventeeuth cen- 
tury! — a blunder of his which he does not pre- 
sume to repeat — leads him now to assert that 
" tbe Irish after battle never buried their dead," 
an assertion which will cause some amusement 
no doubt among the weU-informed readers of 
" N. & Q.," and make them exclaim with Shake- 

" Han, proDd miD . . . ■ 
Hoat Ignorant of what ha most aKamaa." 

This asserUon of his is a libel on Ireland and 
the Irish. Dean Story, it is true (A CoHtimiaiion 
of fht Hiitory of the Wan of Ireland, p. 147), 
gives a sad picture of the field of Aughiim after 
the battle in July, 1691, when— 

«*8.TU. Jan.!8,TL] 



" night and ittj " hy the boc^ of his 

" And tbo' he ftd upon other Corps with the leat of 
Um Dob*, jet be would not allow tbem or Wlf thing elM 
to uiu£ tut of his Master." 

(One of CoL Fouli's soldiera shot the faithfol 
animal.) But we hnre no proof that it 
the cuttom of the Iiiah to burj their dead after 
battle, from this instance, or from othen in addi- 
tioD. At p. 229 of the same histoid, Dealt Storj 
infonns u that, on September 26, 1691, after the 
oantolatioD of limenck, several of die principal 
officen and ot^en of the Irish armj' came from 
their Horse Camp : — 

"And dlniog with the ganeial, the; went afterwards 
into town in a boat roved b^ Freach aumsn (there 
being Uwn three venels diami np within the Key, Mid 
dse of them uink a-cross it, to pnTent onr coming ap 
the rlrer in the Night by vraj' of Snrpriae ; as they rid 
In- the End of the Bridg towards the Boat, a parly of 
their own Men were turyinj, dit dead kUltd '- " - ' — ' 
attin ; tktif tiopped and eHonindfor Mur 
titt^f tiUrt fotad daad ; ana the Ct*9aUon 
fill mit d^attaa dock." 

We are asiured on tiie same authoritj that 
Lieutenant Storj, brother of the writer, who was 
killed in the war, *' was buried irith mititarj 
honors " bj the Irish ; and there can be no doubt 
whatever that when the churchyards were filled 
witi) the dead, places contiinious to tbem were 
ajjpnipriated to purposes of interment bv the 
Inah — a fact very recently more particulariy de- 
monstrated near the cemetery of St John's, in 
the city of Limerick, where, some feet beneath 
tbe aurface of the street which hod been opened 
1^ layen of human bones became exposed to 
new — the bonea of those who were buned after 
the nege, whilst the stone tablet on the wall of 
the churchyard io qaeation states that the wall 
itaelf was rebuilt after the slaughter of that siege. 
It may be mentioned, too, that in the msmorable 
battle which took place near Buttevant, in the 
coun^ of Cork, in the days of Maoalliater, the 
dead were removed to the churehyard of that 
town, where some of their bones may yet be seen 
tfaroaeh a rault wall, in the interior of what was 
once ue chapel. 

Here then we have not only the irish dead 
bmied after battle, hat buried in consecrated 
gmnmd. Can Mb. Fihkerion say tfae same of 
KiaTea of English soldiers who have been elain in 

I raally do not sea tfae appropriatenesa of the 
new isBoe raised in Hb. PmsERioir's letter touch- 
ing "moss grown on the human skull," except it is 
aoather argmttmtmin ad mittricordiam to aceonnt 
tea: the impeifectioDS of his defence, or that in 
Wiittog thus he eapposea he has done the correct 
Ung in acting on the principle mentioned at 
p. fiU of the same issue of " N. & Q.," vib that 
'^Hm philoMpfaeT shonM end with medicine." 

Neither can. I see why the Bev. Br. Tisdale could 
not present a {lortiait of Caroian in court drees to 
the Royal Irisli Academy because there was 
soother Ur. Tisdale in the time of Deas Swift I 
Still less can I discover any establkhmwt of 
Ub. FmxKroN's claim to be esteemed a judge 
of the merits of Carolan'a rich poetry in the state- 
ment made by him Ihathe knows the bard's poems 
" only from trendalions," which he naively adds, 
" I say is not knowine tJiem at aU." Well, I say 
BO too; and I woold aak him to consult Haxdi- 
man's Irith Miiutrelti/, with which he profeHsee 
to be acquainted, more closely and patiently, and 
inquire why does he attempt not only to criticise, 
but to decry Oarolan'e songs P And why will he 
be so unwise as to rail at his music, which aJl the 
rest of die world admiree ? 
. I have now before me — 

" A Favorite Collection ofthemneh admired Old Irish 
Tunei, the OriKinal and GeDoine Compoaitlons of Caroian 
the altbraUd Irish Bard, aeC for the Harpsichord, Piano 
Forte, Violin, and German Ftute." 
They were "published by Hime, 34, CoUege 
Qreen, Dublin, about the close of the leat cen- 
tury. These airs awake an echo wherever they 
are heard in Ireland, even at this moment ; and 
nothing that Mb. Pihebbton can say to the con- 
traiy is calculated to deprive then of a high 
order of merit They are expresmve, national, 
full of feeling, force, soul, and energy. 

As a lener laebe of Mb. PmxEBiOH'a, I may 
mention that be mistakes the ciroumetances and 
facte connected with the anecdote which he quotes 
about Caroian and O'Flynn. Supposing the stato- 
mente reapecting the principal points at issue to 
be correct, what does Mb. PzHXEKiON'sargument 
if I can so demgnato it, amount to, after altr 
Just this — 

1. That he has not as yet been able to identify 
Wat^ Cox's likeness of Caroian with that pub- 
lished by Hardiman. 

2. That a friend of Mb. Fibkebton's at the 
British Museum states that one portrait sent by 
Mb. Fikkbbtok is not like Hardiman's, which 
conveys the likeness of a young man, while that 
of Watty Cox is of an old man I 

8. That Mb. FmKERToii thinks that Caroian 
is, in Ireland, a greatly overrated man. Ue 
(Catolan), however, has left more and better 
mufflc than any Enalish composer; and I hope to 
eee the day when that mumc wUl be republished 
in a style worthy of it and of the composer'a 

Mb. PurxBBTOir has fUledto prove that foreign 
artists did not viut Ireland lin the ei^^teeoth 
century. I have shown that they did. 

Mb, PnreBBTOK has " some words to say to I ,, 
Mb. Lbbihas on his knowledge of Iriih history." ' ^ 
a, sul^eot OB which be thii^ he has alreaay 
damoMttated Mb. Pihkuxob's innoeeoce quite 



[4<»B.VII. Jui.18,'71. 

Bufficientlj to preclude the necemty of prolonoinK 
a controversj which he has wantonly provoted, 
and in whicb he has manifested an abaurd con- 
tempt for Ireland and thelriah. Ab to hia random 
BSgertions, unsupported by the slightest proof, on 
the sahject at issue, ■viz. Carolan'a skull, and the 
other iaauea he baa nused in hia discursiTe flights 
of fancy, on Carolan's poetry, music, foreign artiats 
in Ireland in the eighteenth century, the burial of 
the dead by the Irish after battle, moss on skulls, 
&c &c,theydonotmakeitclear that he is gifted 
with the true scholar's raodeety, or even with the 
cooler jndgmeut of the Englishman. 

There can be no doubt that Carolan was well 
received in the mansions and at the tables of the 
principal nobility and gentry of Ireland. He 
dedicated the chief part of his compos! tiona to the 
O'Connors, the MacDermots, the Loftua Joneees 
("Bumper Squire Jones"), the Burkes, Lords 
of Mayor ("Tiema Mayo"), the Kellys, the 
Cruises, the Loutbs, the Soscommons, the Staf- 
fords, the Feytons, and others also of the leading 
families of Connaught. He travelled south, and 
waa equally well received in Clare, Tipperary, 
Waterford, and Limerick. Hardiman supports 
our conjecture that the gaiidne portrait of the 
celebrated Irish hard was punted bv Van der 
Hagen, who was employed when Carolan was in 
the zenith of manhood and fame, at Lord 1^- 
Tone's (countyWaterford), Mr. Christraas'a (Whit- 
field, eame county), by the eilr of Waterford 
Corporation, &c., and doubtleas elsewhere in this 
Gountty, At Doonas House, the truly picturesque 
reaidence in the neighbourhood of Limerick of 
the then Dean Massy, Van der Hagen met Caro- 
lan, and it ia believed that it wan at Doonas the 
genuine portrait of the bard waa painted by the 
well-known and clever Dutch artiat Strange to 
say, Mr. Pinkertos admits tbia, though he still 
peraiata in his unaccountable cooteutionB. 

MAimicE LEKmAN, M.R.I.A. 



(l" 8. i. 468; iv. 167, 222, 342, 645; v. 97, 214, 

336; tL 482, 562.) 

As an accompliahed heraldic acholar I am sure 
tiiat, on reflection, Mb. J. C. Rooek will pardon 
ine for helping to settle the t^uestion aa to the 
genuineness of "the casts "which he communi- 
cated to Mr. H. Laing for his "Supplemental 
Catalogue of Scottish Seals," The question is 
twofold. First, How did hia father, the late Mr. 
Charles Roger, obtm these casta? Secondly, 
Are the casts what they purport to be P With 
reference to the second part of the question, Ms. 
J. C- BoBER may eaaily satisfy himself that Sir 
William Ro^r (tectmdiu) neither owned nor waa 
connected with Wd in Oalston in 1S33, the date 

of cast No. 851 in Mr. Laing's volume. There 
never was such a knight Aa te the first portion 
of the queation, Ms. J. C. Boqbb has shown that 
the heirs of Mr. Thomaa Meik, the alleged pur- 
chaser of the Coupar Oran^ estate, need not be 
troubled to produce their title-deeds, aince " the 
casts " turn out not to be family heirlooms. To 
hia fatherj Mr. J. C. RosER writes, they were 
" commumcated by the late Mr. Deuchar, aeal- 
engraver, Edinburgh." Mr. Deuchar was an 
excellent heraldic scholar, and was altogether 
incapable of perpetrating an heraldic forgery. But 
Mr. Rooer baa, I fear, been misinformed aa to 
Mr. Deuchar having any connection vith " the 
caats." In 1817 Mr. Deuchar published a work 
entitled "British Crests." In thatwork no Scottish 
family of Roger or Rogers is named as using even 
a crest. Of four Engliah families whom Mr. Dea- 
char names, none have heraldic inaignia auch as 
those in " Uie casts." Some time after the pub- 
lication of hia "Crests," my late father, the Rev. 
James Roger, minister of Dunino, Fifeahire, re- 
quested Mr. Deuchar to discover bis coat of arms 
with a view to its being engraved. After a aearcb, 
Mr. Deuchar reported that the Coupar Grange 
family had no crest or coat of anna. He oflered 
to devise one. " Make something," swd my 
father, " which will suit the motto Le JRoy et 
rUglue." Mr. Deuchar did so, exhibiting as a 
crest a dexter band holding a crosier. This am- 
mounted a shield with charges entirely difi*erent 
bom those of " Uie casta." But might not Mr. 
Deuchar, in the course of further research, have 
got new light on the hiatory of the Coupar Orange 
family P It is certiun that he did not, The whole 
of hia reaearches connected with the crests of 
Scottish families are embodied in " Fairbaim's 
Cpests,"awell-knownworkpubliahed at Edinburgh 
in 1860undeTthe superintendence of Mr.Laurence 
Butters^ seal-engraver to the Queen. In that 
work my father's creat, designed by Mr. Deuchar 
forty veara before, is described as that of the 
ScotUan house of Roger. Mr. Deuchar died 
before 1860. To the day of his death he never 
had any communication with the father of Mb. 
J. C. RoQRR. Tbia I aaaert positively. The Mary- 
well scidpture, it now appears, was not found at 
the non-existing Marywell, but " in a ruined 
house at West Town of Coupar Grange," where 
a John Playfair lived in one century, and where 
a George Roger, to suit the letters " O. R." on 
the drawing, might have lived in another. In 
Mr. H. Laing's supplemental Tolume Mb. J. C. 
RooBR'a father is repreaented as having described 
the seal of Sir William Roger (teamdtu) thus : 
" Sir William Roger, Knt, from an ixutrument 
datad 1633 concerning or conveying a piece of 
ground witbinthe parish of Galston." In "N.&Q." 
Mb. J. C. RooBB states that the narrative of the 
crests waa not ia hit fathtr't handwriting. Uor« 

A"- S. Til. Ja-t. 28, 71.] 



lecently he finds that "the casts" were "com- 
nninicated by Mr. Deuchar." 

Mb. J. C. BoQEB charges me with bSTing, in 
1867, claimed descent irotn Sir William Roger 
in B book nhich I then published. Most trne ; I 
beUeted his statement contained in Mr. H. Lning's 
work published the vear preriouslj. I have long 
beld Mr. Rookb to be an expert heraldic scholar, 
bis heraldic drawiopi and descriptions bein^ ex- 
quisite. I wonid have respected bis authority 
still, bad not inTestigations lately made led me to 
perceive tbatin the present instance he is in error. 
And let mj mishap be a wamisf; to all genealo- 
gists, for I have subjected myself to be twitted 
not only by the gentleman whoso authority I fol- 
lowed, but by another ( W. B.), to vhom Me. J. 
G. RooEB is evidently a Htrang«r. 

Charles Rouebs, LLJ). 

Mr. WiyoHAK i 

I nEPOBTBM ('4'' S, 

i. 417.) — 1 find among some letters in my pos 

- -■ - -' '" ■■■'-■ - '■■ apolitical 

dated Pal 

Mall, Feb. 8, 1810, addressed to a relative of my 
own at that period, connected with the public 
^nea, which throws lifjbt on the subject in quea- 
tJOD, and a copy of which I annex, as you may 
deem it suitabfe for insertiou in your columns. 
I am inclined to think that, after this letter had 
been written, the interdict was removed, and Mr, 
Windham's speeches were duly reported : — 

"FaU Halt, Feb. 8tb, 1810. 
** Upon reenning again to your letter, I find in pirC 
of it soma eqaivocal expreatioaa which lead me to sgp- 
prcM the annrer which I was othenriie diepowd to give 
to it, and might prevent my relying to It at all, if it was 
Dot for the apprcbension that I migbt be aapposed either 
not to have rectived it, or to aoquloce ia the trath of the 
dkargc of treating contcmptuoasly or contamatioDjdy the 
tsleouorcbiractera of men whom nothing but the led- 
dCDis of worldly sitnation could diatinguiih in any decree 

mpiaiot 1 

hMrge, o 


iTould fi 

a Jnst ™Qn 

H it should 

publick body or descrip- 
tioa of men can be cenanred, without the censure being 
fli(q>oa«d to be ipplied directly to each individnal of 
whom the ttody was compoaed, or who wu in *n; way 
coBoecIed witb it : ■ position which would Bound but 
oidlv as nuning on the part of those who are every day 
analgning, in the coarsest tad most unreserved terms, 
every Iwaach of the legislatare. 

" With respect to priviltged places, I bt^ to assare 
yon that I shall never apply (thongb I believe I might) 
to any privilege of ParliameDt to protect me in any- 
thing which I have thought it right to say there. 
" I am, Sir, 

Your obedient 
Humble aervant, 
(Signed) W. WraDnAM." 

E. Rawdon Power. 
Tenby, S. Wales. i 

Leoai CouiroiiPi.ACEs, temp. James I. (4'" S. 
vii. 6,)— I bad no expectation that my extracts 
from Uiis MS. which I submitted to your notice 
would have been at once adopted for publication, 
or 1 should have taken more puns in their selec- 
tion and arrnngement, and I am sorry that your 
printer did not receive my revision of the proof- 
copy before it went to press. Will you now per- 
mit me to supply a few amendments to some 
errors in the "acute et graviter dicta " ? — 

P. 8, line 28 Irom bottom, for " patrem " rend 
"perrsm " (tic in orig.) ; col. 2, line 1, for " puah- 
ing " read " pusliog ; line 12, for " nnllo " read 
" nollo " J line 24 irom bottom/ for " feofm. " read 
" psona " ; line 14 from bottom, the s^ing of Et. 
Jerom touching speech should begin "Tria neces- 
saria"; p. 7, line 16, 1 doubt whether the jewel- 
ler's name shouU not read " vsnlote " instead of 
"vaulose"; line 30 irom bottom, the blank 
should be filled up " NorthumierAmiJ m the stanr 

The anecdote about Mrs. Babington, Mrs. Ashe, 
&c., is so illenble. that I can make nothing out 
of it; but in Uie toird line, "ahees" should read 
" thea . . , Who were these ladies P and who was 
old mother Stephens f 

I take this opportunity of drawing observation 
to two passages which may lead to ue identifica- 
of tlie reporter. Under bis head of " General 
Observations," he remarks that his father was one 
of those authorised by the Lord Chancellor to 
make or pass green Iraoks (whatever that may 
mean), hut not in the character of Clerk of the 
Crown. The writer's father then filled the post 
of Clerk of the Crown. 

One of the "acute et graviter dicta" ofBacon 
was spoken of the writer himself in the case 
between Francklyn and Gascoignei he was there- 
fore one of the counsel in that cause, in which he 
was opposed to Bacon. G. A. C. 

Haik oRownro aiteb Death (4* S. vi. 624; 
vii. 66.)— May I suggeat that, when Mr. Towns- 
HBND Mafeb instanced the case of Charles I. oi 
contrary to that of the lady quoted by Hawthorne, 
he should have remembered that no substance for 
the growth of the hair could pos^bly he derived 
from the body of the decapitated monarch, since 
all the natunU ducts to the roots of the hair were 
severed. Assuming that Hawthorne's statement 
he correct, where he says "her whole substance 
seems to have been transformed," i. «. into "beau- 
riful chesnut hair," the wonder would have been 

have discovered any growth whatever in the 
beard and hair of Kins Charles, since the head 
alone could have supplied the substance for that 
growth. Geoboe Wallis. 

South KenslagtOD Moaeum. . 

It is observed In' Mb. TowirsHEini Hateb ^ I C 
that the indeatiuctibui^ ot hair ia ahown by the 



[11^3.711. JAK. 58,71. 

fcct thst a portiwi of Hemy Vm.'s iNard was 
ibund upon liis chm at the tirae when the coffin 
at Charles I. was opened in 1813. I can adduce 
tk much more remarkable inatance, I aadated in 
the jear 183S in unwrapping an embalmed body 
disoorered in front of where the high altar for- 
merly Stood in Wymondham Abbey in Norfolk, 
It was the body of a female, who was satisfac- 
torily proTeJ to hare been the wife of William 
D'Albmi, the founder of the abbey. She had 
died young and in childbirth. Her hair had been 
cat o&i and we found a profiiuon of it lying de- 
tached on the right side of the neck, of a bright 
anbum colour, and in perfect preaerfatioD. I 
brought away a small lock of thu hur, which is 
now lying before me, and perfectly pieeerred after 
more than 700 years from the lime of the lady's 
decease. I wrote a full account of the discoTery, 
embalming, and appearance of the body in a maga- 
zine at the time. F. C. H. 

Air IiTEDiTED Elkst bt Olitkb Qoldshith 
(4"* S. vii. 9, 66.)— Me. CRoesi.Br'e right«oas 
indignatiou seems to have been moved in no ordi- 
nary degree by the prodnction of " poor Goldy's" 
di^. Granting that it is twaddle, and that 
" mediocrity is not allowed to poets, either by the 
gods or men," can he have foigotten that even 
'' good Homer sometimBa nods "r I had it ori- 
ginally, many years ago, &om the late Captain 
Adderley Sleipii, K.T.S., in whose family to nave 
doubted of its authenticity would indeed have 
beenwoTsethauanyheterodoxy. Moreover, one of 
tlie primary objects, I take it, of " N. & Q." is to 
drculate these fastaelea with a view to their 
passing through the crucible of its readers' intel- 
^ence ; even as pictures, when broug'ht togeUier 
from all sorts of private collectionB at some great 
national exhibition, have their merits and genuine- 
nees at once accepted or rej ected : — 

" Condo et compoao qns moi depromere ponhn." 

MooBLAiTD Lad. 
Whale's Rib at Sobbbnto (4* 8. viL 36.) — 
In the inscription, which was most correctly 
copied, the word in the first line is costaia. 

W. H.B. 

" CnrasBLAini's British Thbatre " (4** 8. vi. 
403.)— I doubted that the late George Baniel was 
the editor, because the text ia so incorrect pam'm. 
I speak not of printers' errata, that a stroke of the 
pen can correct, but of frequent omissions of 
whole lines, bad punctuation, &c. Duncombe's 
Thaa^e is &r more correct in the text, though 
inferior in other respects. Bv-tbe-bye, this last- 
named worii contuns " Mr. taul P^," by Dou- 
glas Jerrold. It is a better play than Poole's 
comedy. One of the characters ia Sir Spangle 
Kvnbow. It was produced at the Coboni^, and 
amongst the acton named in the dramatu per- 

totua is Mr. Bnckstone. If the play is by Jerrold, 
why is it not in the published collection of his 

Stbphbb Jackbon. 

it will not bear a mouse afterwards. 

A somewhat similar saying prerails in Notti^ 
hanuhire and neighbouring counties, which is 
perhaps not unworuiy of note :— 

" If there's ice in Kovember Until beir a dock, 
Therell be nothing after bat alndgs uid nuck." 

The country people in Nottinghamshire pro- 
phesy that the ensung winter will be a mild one, 
EMsing their prognostication upon the fact of the 
wind being son^eily on St. Martin's Eve I 

A. E. L. L. 

I have heard this given in another form :— " If 
the ice will bear a goose before Mardnmas (or 
Martlemat as my informant pronounced it) it inll 
not bear a dude after." Can the experience of any 
reader of " N. ft Q." varify this saying P 


WABii=WBiETHT (4'» S. IT. 2B5, 326, 489.)— 
Slightly appoute is one of the anagrams given in 
Camden's Smtaitu, p. 219 (od. 1674) :— 

The Pied Pipbr of Haublx (4" S. iv. 364.) 
I beg again to notice this extraordinary story, to 
elicit, if possible, a satisfactory solution for it as 
a eommemoratiini of some deplorable calamity. 
Was it a great famine ? Howell (Familiar LOten, 
1753, p. 308), writing in the year 1643, states that 
the inhabitante "date their bills and bonds and 
other iostruments in law, to this day, &om the 
year of the going out of their children." 

Beckford, in Vathek, gives a somewhat umilar 
incident. An Indian, renewing his loud shouts of 
laughter, and exhibiting horrid grimaces, is kicked 
hy Vathek, who repeated his blow with such as- 
ridttity as mdted wl who were present to follow 

udea at the blowe of his auailanta, who 

ETHsed alter him, wherever lie tamed, with xa eagerness 
eyond conception, whilst their nnnibers were every 
moment inereising. Tbe ball. Indeed, la pushig fTom 
one apartment to ■nother, drew every person slier it 
that csjne in It* waj. The women of the hirem. no 
sooner did Oaf catch b glimpse of the ball, than feeling 
tbemselvee nnible to refrain, thOT- broke from tbe elutcfacB 
of their ennuebs, who, to stop their flight, pinched them 
«U they bled ; but in vain ; whilst themselves, though 

*S.VII. lui.2a,71.] 


„ tenor >t tbt CMipe of tlieir cbiTge, mn 

a> iaci|>^e of reabting the attnctioo," ie. Ac. 

Ib tiiia account a flctioD oE Beckford's, of does 
]te obtain it from anj older " Arabian tale " P 


FotTHTAIire OF QUICSBILTXB (2^ S. »!. 189.) 
As it would appear that thia querj hai naver been 
replied to, I reuture after the l^se of nme jeus 
to (five the reference reqoired. 

The Bath lecturer -was accurate. Gibbon, from 
Oardonne, aaya that — 

"In ■ loftj pavUlon of tho garden" [of Bagdad] "one 
of thcM buiiis and foaatniDS .... wai nplcniihed, not 
with mter, but viCh the pnrest qaicksilTer." — Hilt, of 
Dtdauaid Fail af Ihc Soman Enipirc. vol. vi. p. HI 
(Bohn's Britisb CUwica). Vidt alao notea to same paa- 
ngo ■> to the Albambia. 

Mr. Disraeli, in his "wondroua tale " of Ahoy 

(Wame'e ed. 1866, p. 66, and note 31), mentions 

the nme magnificence on the authority of Gibbon. 

8. R. TownaHXHD U&tbs. 

Blchmond, S.W. 

" PiKacB THE PLOTreEQUH's Crxdx " (4** S. i. 
244, 378, 448, 490.)— 
" Hjt waj good y-now of grotmd . grajti tor to beien." 


I am incUned to take thia as referring to a 
enrrent proverb of the time. In his noble defence 
of poor Richard II., Thomas Kerka, Bishop of 
Cariiale, sajs, vrith ^1 the epiarammatic terseness 
of Fuller, "It is a bad wool that can take no 
colour." (Collier's Sled. Siit. nf Great BnUaa, 
f<A. i. p. 612, fol.) So the better the wool, the 
tidier the d;s it is capable of taking. 

The date of the poem of Pxtree the Floughmc 
Crted is given by Mr. Skeat (E. E. T. 8.) 
" about 1394, A.s.>' The deposidoQ of Ricbaid U. 
took place ia the year 1399. 

The speech of Bishop Merks displaya a courage 
and a manliness eo rare, that I cannot forbrar 
reconunanding it ai 

Fatehhig Sectary, 

Noire (4"^ S. iv. 272, 370.) — Yonr correspondent 
CosinTB. quotes from a poem published in 1798 to 
determine the period at which the word noiu was 
mcorporated with the English language. The 
following is from the Ihmciad: — 

" Ah think not, niitma, more true dqllnem li«a 
Id Fdlf's cap or Wiadom's grave diiRTise, 
Like buon tiiat never link into the fiood, 
On kaifiing's mrftoe we bat Us and nod. 
Thine is the Keaoiae head of many e hoose 
And mncfa divinity witbont a rotif." 

JnuAK SsAHUur. 
" Thi Bitmb End " (i^ S. -n. S40, 427, 510 ; 
TJi. 33.) — ji^td here I take to mean die rtttilt; and 
I think LoBD Ltttelton will admit that the 
W\» exceeds in any sense, good or bad, the 
vpmiu, Aristotle saya it does. In war deftat 

hope." While the erent is pending the end may 

be nivi) not Tpni. There is room, at all events, 
for hope. JEhnnruD Tbw, M.A. 

Cbowoks (4'* S. iv. pamm; t. 163, 261 ; tL 
448.) — To support the derivation given' of this 
word at the lut reference, I beg to mention that 
on the cabartti and gitingiuitet of little fisbing 
TillagBB along the coast of Brittany "id on fait ta 
ehmuHh-a" is a frequent ugn. Faire ta ckaudiirt 
is to provide a cauldron in vrhich is cooked a meas 
of fish and biscuit with some savourr condi- 
ments — a " hodge-podge" contributed by the 
fiahennen themselves, who each in return receives 
his share of thepiepared dish. Now Canada was 
settled by the French, many of them from Brit- 
tany, wiUi Jacques Cartier, a Breton, at their head ; 
and it is precisely horn those states which border 
upon Canada that we derive both the word dune- 
der and the very palatable dish it designates. 

Folk Lobk: Tbsth (4"" S. vi. 66, 131, 340, 
560.) — Is it not likely that the "ring with a 
tooth in it," mentioned in the advertisement quoted 
by E. C, may have been a relic of some saint F 
I have in my cabinet a heavy silver ring of French 
workmanship, and, I ahould think, of the early 
part of the seventeenth century, in which is set a 
tooth of apparently some considerable age. 8, 
Apollonia was apecially invoked for the tooth- 
acne. See Bishop Jewal's ErpotUion upon the 
Second Epiit/e to t/te Theualonimit, ii. 9, 10 :— 

" Hereof it eame to pass that each saint wu assigned 
and allotted (o his sundry charge and several office apart : 
S. Blase fbc the choking, S. Boche for tba pestilence. 
Anthony for the baming, Valentlae for the fillinf 

Blase fbc the choking, S. Boche for tbi 
.thony for the baming, Valentlae for the filling ai 
ness, Romans for madness, Apollonia for the tootnac 

PetroniUa for agues, and others for other pntpoHe." 

In the Roman calendar S. Apollonia finda a 
place on February B, and in Alban Butler's Lives 
of the Sainte, under that date, I find it stated that 
the heathen population of Alexandria, in the last 
year of the reign of the Emperor Philip, attacked 
the Christians rerident amongst them ; and that — 
"Tba ■dmiiible Apollonia, whom old age and the state 
of virginity rendered equally venerable, was seized by 
them. Their repeated blowi on hei jaws btat mtaaher 

Frequent (illusions to the popular belief in the 
virtue of the invocation of S. Apollonia vrill be 
found in the uublicationa of the Parker Society. 
Compare also tae "Fantassie of Idolatrie," printed 
in Foxe'a AcU md Moiumentt, v. 406, IBth edit 
" To Saynt 6yth for my pone i 
Saynt Loyo mn my horw ; 

For «y teth to Baynt Apolyne." 

Were the teeth of B, Apollonia ever worn as 
relics or as charms against toothache? . \i 

W. Sfahkow Simpsoh. n 


[4'^S.VIl. JAy.28,7L 

H. R. H. THE DtJKB of KeiTT IK CilfADA IK 
1791 (4'" S. V. 633.)— The following woik may be 
of aerrica to Mb. Macdohald. It waspubliahed 
a few months ago bj Hunter, Rose & Co., at 
Ottawa Knd Toronto, 8va, pp. 341, and maj per- 
haps be fouDd At Ttiibaer's, 12, Paternoster Row, 
Loadon : — 

•• The Life of F. M. H. R. H. Edward, Dako of Kent, 
lIloBtiated by bii Correspondence with the De Salibeiry 
FamilT, never Iirrure published, ex teailine from 1791 lo 
1814. By Dr. Winiara James Anderson, L.R.C.S„ Edin- 
barfth, Preiident of the Qoebee Litaraiy and ilistoricol 
A paragraph in the " Introductory " ia aa fd- 

<■ The Duke of Kent -was an able and TolnmiDaas coi^ 
reapondent, and from the care with whieh hu letten hare 
been preserved he hae unconBcioiulf become bia own 
biographer; but this biography has hitherto been eon- 
flned to the limited circles of tbe families or friends of bia 
correapondenW, and the few of his letters which have 
been pnblished in bia Lifi, by the Rev. Erskine Neale. 
bave oaly excited a desire to »e more." 

I hare nexer met with Mr. Neale's work. Mr. 
Aodetmn does not elsewhere in his book refer to 
it more particularly than in tbe above paragraph, 
and it is not mentioned in either Watt's B. B. 
or Lowndes' BiSl. Maraud. 

As the prince-duke arrived at Quebec in Au- 
gust, 1791, in command of the 7th Royal Fusi- 
leers; in 1794 as^ted in the reduction of tbe 
Fnnch West Indies, and was then aptninted 
Commander of the Forcea in Nova Scotia and 
New Brunswick; and in May, 1799, Commander- 
in-Chief of tbe Forcea in Rritish North America, 
in which command he continued until August, 
1800,— Mb. Macdohalu will probably find "the 
full details" he requires in the duke's ofRcial 
correspondence with the authorities at the Borse 
Guards, where I presume ij is still preserved. 

TiUe-Maiie, Canada. Ebic. 


71u WarhM i^Altzmder Pope. Nan EdUiim, including 

aeeeral hundred impubtUhtd Lettert and lather JVat A/a- 

leriali, collecled in pari by Vie lale Richt Hon. John 

Wilion Croker. (TitA InlmdielioiK and Xnlet bg the 

Kev. Whitwell Elwin. FbI. II. Fotlry. H'M Fiirlralii 

and oilier Jlluitmlions. (Murray.) 

If the admirers of Pope iiave had their patience sorely 

tried while waiUng fbr this long-promised edition of bis 

worka, few of them hut will confess that that patience 

hu at length its reward in a coUoctioa of the poet's 

writings, which promises to leave little scops for the 

labours of fiitare commentatoni or fature editora. Tbia 

new volome contains the ■■ Essay on Criticism " followed 

by " Warborton's Commantair and Notes," " The Rape 

of the Lock - followed by the " First EdilioQ " of it ; ' ~ 

Eleityto tbeUemoryofanDnfortanateLady;" "Eloisa 

to Abelard ; " the " Essay on Han ;" and " The Univenal 

Prayer," the two latter being accompanied by Warbartan'a 

Commentary and Notes, While, in the iltustntlon of each 

of Ibesa poema Mr, Elwla has availed himself freely and 

Jodldonaly of the laboors of preceding edilon, he has, 
with great advantage to the stadeots of Pope, brought 
critical powers to bear asmnch upon their judg- 
s upon the Poet's wrilioga; sotbat his comments 

portion t " 
which « 

late Mr. Croker bestowed in clearing up and illus 
passages which change of times and manners have ren- 
dered obscure, and which conld only be explained by 
thoroDgbly finiiliar with the literature of the time. 
Ally of nur readers who remember how much has been 

Lady." who was 
greatly amused n 
poem, in which, following up a bint tint thrown oat we 
believe by Mr. Dilke, he shows she was altogether an 
Imaginary ptrsonagni and thei,-will be as greatly pleased 
with the sound and vigorous criticism in which be has 
exposed the many fulw prindplei enanciated in It by 

Sritcl UUen nf Pliny the Yoimger. Latin Text, rilh 
Englith Xotei. Edited hp A. J. Chorch, M.A. of Un- 
cola Collie, Oxford, and Head Master of the Royal 
Grammar School of EingJameaUUenlev-on-ThauifS, 
and W. J. Brodribb. M.A., laU Fellow of St. Jobn'a 
College, Cambridge. (Longmans.) 
This is a selection, amnnnting to abont two-fifths, of 
the Epistles of Fliny the Younger, and arrangcil in the 
present form with a view to making them more accee- 
">1e to classical stndenCs. The comparative oblivion 
lo which these letters bave fallen is the more strange, 
uMdering that sometimes Pliny supplies missins links 
the history of his friend Tacitus. SWuld tt 


this volume, who, in order t 
book for the npper forms of schools, famiah each letter 
with an analyais, and point out such words and phrases 
aa do not exactly belong to the Angnstan a!i:e. Copious 
notes are likewise given at the end of tbe volume. 

Books BEcatvuD.— Vn(i«. n/ the Jeai bg the Qauie 
Writert of Antiquity, being a Cnilectim of Faeti and 
Qpiaiom from the fVorki of Ancient Heathen Anthort 

1. oOn, iv John Gill. (Longmans.) The 
notices reier to the £:codus from Egypt; the Origi 
Rites, Customs, and Peculiarilira oFtheJewsi and Notices, 

Geographical and MUitsry, extracted from about fifty 
various authors.— rA* Cieil Senim Hillary nfEnglmal, 
bring a Fact-Book of EngliJi Hilton/ arranged erprenly 
for Examination CundidaUi. Public Schooli. and Sladenti 
generally, by F. A. White. H.A.; Reciied throaghoul and 
enlarged by a. A-Dohnon. (Board of Trade.) (Locknood.) 
Preparedby one gentleman of great experience intliepre- 
- 'm of caodidatai for the Civil Sf—' " ' 

iraphy issned Viv the same publisher! 
Atlai of Britieh Hiitary, by Keith Jo 
inston, Edinburgh.) llilrty-one map! 

:e Civd 


tifuii, __„._ . . .--..- 

lag Europe and the World generally at different import- 
ant historical periods, maile complete by an Index to all 
tbe places named iu il, deeeives to be widely circulated, 
and ii published at n price which certalnlv admits of iL — 
Dranatic Alnuinach for 1871, by 3. W. Anson. This 
carious little year-book deserves * good word on two 
groands: first, for tbe amount of amusing infonnation 
connected with the Drama which it contains; secondly. 

le ediui, Is, ^ 

4* a Vn. Jaw. 28, 71.] 


Eddcatiosal Books.— Ilie editor of Ibe Patliilien' 
GraJarta* bna collecting brortnitioa wilh ■ rierrto 

LHoing an index or cataioj;De. diusified lecording to 
ubjecu. or Khool, coUe^, tcchniul lod g«nenl tSacM- 
tionil works in u>e in Gmt Briuio. So muij letnrns 
hkTe bcm ilieedT recdvtd from publi^hcn, tlut it would 
lake eight or ten page*, dowly printed in three colnmas. 
to giTC tbe short titlea of merclr elementary publication! 
which teach Ihe Engliili langoige. Instead, ttierefore, of 
a tapplement to the periodical abore-named it will ba 
n-ceoary to make the catalogue a diitinct I'olanie ; it 
will not, >i a general rale, induda any work of which 
there haa been no new edition within the lost three yean. 
Thb Gebxahb of ins Fie-t ami Ni:iKTKE:cni Cci- 
TL'EUis.— A cDrrespondent of the J'oZJ AfaU Gaitttt 
writes ^m inside Puis ; " The other night Ibe bamhard- 
meat wu >o noinr that I conld not sleep, so I took 
Tadtos' Dt oBTibtu tl papula Gtrvanix. as a ' lecture 
pleino d'actualil^.' I >aw there nme things which are 

(the German 

ler that to retreat, provided they 

a charge, is pradence, not cowardice.' The 

French an lety much ilrack with this now, and an 
constantly taken in by the manmutre. Alio Todtns 
uys that the Gernuna areo in dnabttui enoonnldrs carry 
onbeii dead. Thii is abo true dov." 

Omlt a few daya before hta death tba late Dean Allbrd 
revised the pnwf-iheet of h)s recent Advent Sermoos 
(includlEig the oae preached befi>n the Queen), wblch 
will be isaoed jmmedialelT In a small volume by Measn. 
Ilodder * Stou^blun, entitled Trvlh and Tnat: jCewiu 
ofOit Var. 

A pEBstAn maaascript of great beauty, containing 
nzty futi page nilnialnre illuminations, and profusely 
onumcDItil throughout in gold and colours in the highest 
c]asa of ancient art, was sold by Measn. Putiick & Simp- 
son, of Leicester Square, last luesday, for 'iflhl. \ 

The next number of the Ilbiiln^ttd Rtvino will be 
published on the lit of February by Mfasri. Houlston i 
Sana of Paternoster Row. The subject of the memoir and 
portrait will ba John Ruskin, U.A. In future tbe Illia- 
trattd Rrvlrv will be paUished oa the 1st and IStb of 
tbe moBtb instead of fortnightly. 

Tht. Cobimratioh Records. — The aecond Report of 
tbe Library Committee contains tnach valuable infonna- 
tlnn aa lo the records of LohJoh Bridge ; the Chapel of 
St. Thomas, and the Fnternily or Brotherhood upon Ihe 
Bridge ; tbe Payments to the OfficiaLi eonnectod with 
this ediike, anil tbe Price of Materials provided (or fta 
repair ; the Tolls charged npoit Vwsels peseing throngh 
and Carts, Ac. over the Bridge. Many of the deeds b^r 
ttw aeoli of the earliest Mayors, snch as Fitz Ailwyn, 
Serle le Mercer, Hardell, Benger, Daalng, Ralph de Saod- 
wieh, &e. Some have the old Citv sal attached before 
its alteratioa In 1639. " When the Saale was alteryd and 
cbanged, and th' Armes of thya Cytvc made yn the 
place of the «ayd Tbooias Bekk'et on the one svde, and 
on tbe other svua tbe Imsga of Saynt Ponle." The Rolls 
of Paymentfl commence in 1381. Some of Ihe volumes 
have omomental initial letters at tbe commencement of 
eachcbapter, and an in the original binding. The Com 
Boekt, containing the account of the com bought and 
stored In tbe Granaries of Ihe City and the Companies 
at the Bridge tjoaae, explain the custom adopted to 
praviflon Ihe city in time of scarcity. The documents 
alating to tha Fradnm of the City commence in 16B1, 
and they eoolaln much genealogical information. The 
jrerloska booka were dotroytd in the Great Flra. Th« 
naport eondndca wilh seven! aenalbleand practical ang- 

gesticD* for Ibe better prcaervallon of these valnable 
arcbivea, and there can ba no doubt that the Court of 
Common Council will see the detiratdlily of eanylng 
these raeanunendations iaco effect. 

Ub. W. R. UoRrrrr, M.A, Oriel OMtst. Oifoid, baa 
in the press a new work, "The Slavea," their etbDolog}', 
early histoi^, and popular traditions, with some account 
of ^Tonic literature, being tbe subatanea of a ootirae at 
lectures delivered at UxfonL 

tribute their great priias, have postponed their iiwemhly 
till the 31st <? March. 

JoimsoN CLirn. — Tha first Meeting of the Second 
5ieasion of this Literarv Societv for (ha purpose of Current 
Liierarv Review, was'held last night, TbursOav, Jon. 2tl, 
at St. John's Gala, ClerkenwelL This Club h^ taken a 

a Gate, or 6, Harrbigtuu 

wahtbd to purchase. 

S tba (bllovrlna BoDki ta ba teat diree 

We nw( bn o 
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that it can bt nod, 


flatittt ta Carrc<|iaii&enU. 

nifnti to vritt d 
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leetled, at regueMtid, 

P. GrbEH aaltfind the alliternliee 

"An Aostiian army awfully arrayed," 
ia our 8^ S. iv. 88. 

BnWHAM TDK CK<ITK:tAntA!(. The OUtltHM it itnt 

Khtlber it vae pnaible thai £iviwi> U<^ed to be 118, bM 
whelhir hr did. Our flfaxcbetler mrrtepoadtnfi iigemina 
paper etnifi goei to prove tbe poatHrtiiJjl i aard re oonof 
ipare tpace Jor to Ioki a paper on tahat I'l mat reallf the 

O. B. IS (Aonlof. Ffi haee Ibe letter alrtady I'a typi. 
CocKSURK.— B. S. W. *'or deri-cation ite "TH.h Q." 
3" S. Ix. 61, 109, 248. 

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n01S3i-Oa the Modem tJ«o( Iho Wort " Art." 89- 
Iietlor or Jama Barl of Oleixaini to Jamca TI., Hu«h4. 
1(07. W — St^onlehire Hid Ameriswi Polk Lore, 01 — 
llTinnld HilJ, lale of Hwn, Sj — Lord Plunkelt — Adti- 
mitt of Lsdies' ChlRoons — Colnddence of TtHiiigtlt — 
neUnkbtGate taa Nuraar Wbt— Eli^m^ainntt- 
HeoM —tiimA Buttoiu— Cariouifplttph-TlM Bnp- 
BOHd Uiltonie Bp!t*ph — FbatogispliT ; the Wmr ud 

QTESEBS I — AathoR mitted — KedlKMl Banu — litKond 
OD B*ll»-The BIrt Cage Walk—Brttiib Boftbed OwMta : 
Mn. lUrktBai — Duariiu of Dniiui, Ben for— Curl oua 
BDcniliiB— Meaning ofFoa:"— The Koboid of QHtban 
— Vsnl Dell and Fnrli — VHe oTGhuko NerilLAc.— 
Pht-BaM-Eappa Sooietj it Boaton— Tbe "FotterB" of 
11» Nortbem Counties —" Tbe Uearta of Men vblch 
fcnd^," So. — QnotatlonB wauled — 8t. Joi^h'e B™ — 
Tbomas Btaoler, BiaboD of Sodor and Mm — " Thoughta 
€* Patrldoa " - " Tbe Thnea Whi«Hfc" «t. hr" B. O?" - 

BBPUBS r-k RMtonhlp of Biebtj-ine Taan, >7— " Soma 
80toChareb,"Ac: (Hd Rliymea,Ba~OrdeR of Enfgbt- 
£oad, l«a— BarfaarouaMinaore, 101— King WUtlam IlJ.'a 
Btlnrun ud other Bella at Oirriokblaolier, co. Armacb, 
Kfi — md Eandown Caalle. Iile of Wlgbt — Mount Onlrarr 
— OndwlnBvlrt—DeacsndanU or Bishop Bedell—" Son" 
~ KLoedPnfii- Bichard Terriok, Biebopof Londfm.lTM- 


nBorealli.Ao., IDS. 

I opinion 


Within tbe msmoir of tbe preaent generstioD 
the popular uae of tbe word art has greatlv in- 
creaaed, while its papular Biguification has 'been 
much modified. It is indeed not uncommon to 
meet with fairl; well-informed men who would 
deny its appropnateneH when tbej hear it ap- 
plied to certain puranits and studies which from 
lime immemorial have been claeaed among' tbe 
arte. I Tenttue to ask for space in " N. & Q." for 
some few Temaiks on this subject, in the hope 
&a,t tb^ ma; elicit lepliea and su^estions &oni 
jtmr leaders. 

Tbe Latin word art, genitive nrlU, whence art 
u daiived, ugnified with tbe Komans acquired 
skill, whether mental or manual. Hence art, 
accotdii^ to Roman notione, waa both theoretical 
and practical, and the arts either liberal or il- 
liberal. A master of the liberal arts — artes iSteralet 
or iagaMta — waa termed arltfex, while one who 
laboi^ed with his hands at the illiberal arts — arte* 
tardida — was termed opiffx. This dietiDction re- 
mains in ouc own language, as artiU and arfiton, 
or artut and crafttman. 

Among- tbe varioua arte, liberal and illiberal, 
namad Tn itoman authors, we meet with art 
tmtdiea, rhetoriea, grammatica, mumca, medaniea, 
mttkeinatica, ff^mnaflica, in^eraloria, manuaria, 

In tbe Middle Ages, seven liberal aita were 
studied, divided into the Trivium, wbiidi com- 
prised grammar, logic and rhetoric, and the Qimit- 
rknum, which comprised music, arithmetic, geo- 
metry, and astronomy. The universitv deg>ee of 
maffitter arlium implied a command <^ "tiieaa 
libeml arte. Tbej are constantlv referred 'to in 
early writem, e. g,, Siahffui in defautotum teatetn 
Arliam liberatiuTn, by Th. Qreamond, 1497. 

The term " art " was widely used in the da 
senie by early writers; thus the Ar» Magna of 
Jerome Cardan, published in 154S, is a treatiie 
on algebra. Erasmus published in 1626 a trans- 
lation of Oalen'a Exkokatio ad honat Artetpra- 
terUtn Medidnam. So also we meet with Smtaxis 
ArUi Mirabilu, 1581, JDe ArU OccaUa, 1613, Of 
CertayiK Smulral and Dieeluh Artet, 1561. 

Ueny of the arts above named would at the 
pieeent day be mtber termed sciences. The dis- 
tinction between art and science is well expreaeed 
by St. Whewell in his JUktory of the Indtietim 

"The object of art i^ work, the solution of some pro- 
blem, the prodiicikm of some visible result. Tbe o^c«t 
of acienee is knowledge. Hence in art, thoosb know- 
ledge is naefnl, It is osefnl as a means to an end. But in 
science it is itself the end," 

Arcbbisbop 'Whately, in tbe introduction to Ms 
Elsmeati of Logic, saya : — 

"It is to be remembered, that as a science a con- 
versant about ■paculative knowledge only, and STt is the 
application of knowledge to practice, hence logic (as well 
as any other eyitemof knowledge) becomes, wben applied 
lo practice, on art; while confined Co the tbcorv of iBssan- 
ing, it is itrictly a science." 

The teims "fine arte," "polite arte" appear 
to here come into vogue about tbe middle of the 
last century. In theopeningaddressof Sir Joshua 
Reynolds to tbe Boyal Aimdemy on Jnnuary 2, 
1709, he eays: "An academy in which the 
polite artt may be regularly cultivated is at last 
opened among ue by royal muuiBcencu." 

From this date onwaida numerous works on the 
fine arte appeared; thus — in 1782 Valentine Green 
publitJted — 

"A Review of tbe Polite Arts in France at the Time of 
tbeir Eetablisbment under Lonia XIV. compared with 
tbeir prawn t State in England." 
Tbomas Bobcrtaon's "Inquiry into the Fine Arta." 

Sealcy'B " Concise Analysis of the Bellee Letties, the 
Fine Arts, and the Sciences." ITSB. 

Bromlev's well-known "Histoi7 of tbe Fine Art^ 
Piintingi'ticiilptare, and Architecture." 1793. 

Aa compared with these, let us take two works 
iaaued respectively in 176S and 17C7 :— 
Harris, Jss. (Author of Hermci'), " Tbreo TreaUses. 

.Art-, 2. Mofic, Painting, Poetry ; 3. Happinf 
Duff, Rev. W., " An Easay on Original Ue 
vationa Modea of £zenJan in Philosophy 

Ueoius and 

Fine Arta, parlicniarly in Poetry." 





Here the limilstion of the temu " art " and 
''fine art" a not eo definite as in tbe other 
worka iwaed after 1768. 

Hazlitt, in the article " Arts," contributed bj 
him to the Encychpeedia Britannka earl; in the 
preaent centuir, aaje : — 

•■ Tha tenn jhit artt may b« viewed u embtaeing ill 
tliMa art! in which the powor* of ImitiUon or Invention 
an ezeitad, chieflj with a view to ihe prodnclion of 
pleaiare bf the immediate impres^ioii which they mole 
on the mind. But tbe phnse haa of late, we thiak, been 
teatiicl^d to ■ namiwei and more tccbnlcai signiflcstion, 
namelj' to painting, acolptnce, enf;nviiig and architeo- 
ture, which appeal to the eye as the medinm of pleaaare, 
and tj V17 of eminence to the Gnt two of tLaa aits." 

May it not be assamed that the restriction 
which Hazlitt notices was due to the influeace of 
the Boyal Academy of Arts F In the preseDt daj 
the prevaleDCO of Art Exhibitions, Art Srhoola, 
Art Museums, et hoe genut omne, has familiarised 
the public earwith the word used in thia restricted 
aenae, and baa at the same time led the unii~ 
atructed andthe unreflecting to suppose that art 
something apart not onl^uom the artisan or tL. 
artificer, nut also from the master of arts ', and 
that it should be confined sole); to the arUst and 
Ilia worka. A. C. K. 

which had l«cn purchased from the re[ 
tivea of Sir Jamea Balfour, the Lord Lyt 
' wards the end of the centuiy before Inst It refers 

Lyon, to- 

to the existing feud between the noble familiea of 
Cunninghani nnd Montgomery, which, lilte the 
Conican " Vendetta," had subsidted for a long 

These two families, after the fashion of the 
Capulets and Afontagues, being bitter enemies, 
tooK occaaioD to injure each other when a fitting 
occasion occurred. At last matters came to a 

hames of Kobertland, Coreehill, ana others 1 
clan, npon Hugh fourtii Earl of Eglinton, of the 
same of Uontgomery (for the latw earls are Se- 
tons). His lordship was riding from his own 
house npon April 15, 1680, when he waa basely 

* " It ia fbr (be fint lime, I beliere, in the annals of 
your nnirersity that (be line arts will hare received ihat 
canaideralion which I betiere to be their due— ■ oon- 
rideiation which may, I hope, in time remove Ibe re- 
proach that oar leading uniTeraitiea confer degrees as 
masten of aria npon students from whjMe course of 
aludy sltnost all re^rence to the fine arts liaa haen, as It 
ireie, aednlouily eiponged." — Sir Digby Wyatt'i Lte- 
tura o» liiK Art, dtlitend at Oambridgt. 

to the Scotiah diadem. So that it was not until 
James had been quietly .placed on the English 
throne that he ventured to interfere between the 
two powerful families. Whatever may have been 
Ihe monarch's demerits, and they wore not a few, 
he never omitted any opportuDJty which presenteA 
itself of mitigatdng the miscliiea his oridnal un- 
certain tenure of power had produced. His ma^ 
jesty, through his privy council, and especially 
with the aid of his great favourite the Earl ot 
Dunbar, contrived to patch np matters between 
the rival noblemen ; and it is to this eettlement 
that the present letter — remarkable for the odd- 
ness of the spelling, as well as its singular phrase- 
oloCT — refers. 

The earldom of Qlencairn was originally a 
creation of Jamea III.— a ruler who has met with 
little justice from tha chroniclera of his time. He 
was an accomplished man, food of architecturer 
delighting in music, and a patron of the fine art*. 
Hence bis semi-bsrbarous nobles first despised 
and then rebelled against him. He was, alter his 
defeat at what is called the Battle of Ssuchie 
Bum, assassinated in the village of Sauchie b; 
some unknown per*on. The house was in ex- 
istence some years since. The bonotus conferred 
hv bira on his adbcTents were rescinded. Amongst 
these was the earldom of Glencaitn, which was 
subsequently revived in the person of Cuthbert 
Lord Kilmaurs, his grandson. 

"PuciasKTOwaKOiSTSACEBiDMAiKSTii, According 
to yowr Uaiesleia command, 1 submittitt the paiiecnlar 
binidis and contrawaraeis alandiog betirix the name of 
Hongowmer^, me, and my name* to Seiko frelndis as 
waa schosin befoiryowr Haiesteis consaill and ihe dnv 
■ppoynlitt be Ihe cunsajll, to conweae befjir thaoie tit 
eieeptt Iha aamon, qhilke day we baif all keipitt, and 
Ihe Jngia exeeptiti, and ower clamea on ather syid was 
giSn in: then reetilt tlie commoneris to acre on (be 
owctiiman, quhilke thay wald nocht do, and iwa it b 
cammen in yowr Haieateis bandis, qabairaf I am mairt 
glayd, ewer expecting yowr Maiesteia moiat gratiowsa 
favour to me and myne, quha hea and sail ewer earin 
maiit aerwyabill bsrtis as we salbe commanditL Glf 
tbair sail comme any reportia of me to yowr Majeslie, I 
am sertsne, according to yowr Malealeia wanlilt and 
moiat gratiowse eustownie, I wilbe callilt to my awin 
Bccont. I dowt noctit bott yowr moiat Sacreld Uaieslie 
will iwa aetlill thsit tunia, aa heirefler thay be na 
cawiaas of gnge on alher svd, and that ewerilke ane of 
ws mayjoiaae ower awin kyndlie rowmes and poses- 
aiownis in all tyroes cnmmeiiig. This erectiowne of th« 
Abeasej of Kllwyneing, quhilke my lord of Eglingtown* 
menis to suite att yowr Maiestje, will nocht failTto in- 
lertTBe) Ibe acid of Imbill amsogia we, for we wilbe all 
enterest thairby, and I protest Sefoir voi^r Maiestie, I 
hild rather IoImo my lyf or ony occatiowne war gifin ba 
metobreke thatwnitej qnhi Ike yowr Maitstej will com- 
mand. I man crawe yowr Haieateis hnmbili pardowse 
— '— * aiwrvlt. kj moiat 
-'-" - '-Maiei 

• See BaUbar'i A<mat», IL 16w 


<* S. TIL Fbb. 4, 71-1 


I pnj tlu Lord lo gif your MaiMtie gnd hiilths, Isng 
lyf, with uia praaaepemwK rjng, la the hit of tha Lord, 

Tour MaiMUis maiat hnmbill and 
obtdyeDt lubiectt, ewer redej to be com- 
minditt with all humbill mtwIix, 


■ EdinbnrKb, the fbnrtt 

of Htn^s, ie07. 

" To hii moist Sacred HijaMv." 



I send you a collection of folk lore, wbicli I 

found inser^d as marginal notea in an edition of 

were dictated l^ an aunt of fais, a native of 
Smethwiok, Stafiordsbire, who was liTing in 1866, 
but very ag«d. Should you think them worthy a 
place in " N. & Q.," jou will oblige by inserting 

To curt Cft^n-Mii^A.— Take out tha child, and let it 
look at the new mooD ; lift up Ita clothes, and nib jonr 
risht hand tip bd4 down iti itoniacb, and repeat the 
fcUowing liiK9 (looking iteadl^tlj at the moon, and 
rnbbioj; at the UDie time) :— 

" What 1 see may It iocreaa^ 
What I feel may it decreaae ; 
In the name of the Father, Sod, and Hoi; Ghoat. 

When JOU have jour hair cat, be sare to bom the hair 
which is cat off; fur if yon throw it ont of doors, and 
toads Uke it into their holes, joa will hare a perpeloal 

OD foai back. — If yon liill a black beetle, yon will 
it to thnnder, and yoa will be atrock by lightoiog. 

Find a briar growing in 

-.. -- - — . r he child andor and over 

times, fur three mornings before the son rises. 

" Under Oie briar; and over the briar, 
I wish to leave the chin-congh here." 
The briar mast then be cnt, and made into a eniall cross, 
and worn on the child's breast. 

The devil always pats hiscloven foot npon blackberries 
on Hichadmas Day, 29th Sept. ; therefore after that day 
none sbontd bo gathered daring the remainder of the 

Day.— Cows go down on their kneci at 12 o'clock on Old 
Cbristotas nIghL 

When yoa see a rainbow, lake two straws, cross them, 
place them on the ground, and the rainbow will Instantly 

A black cat coming accidentally into a house aad re- 
maining there, is coosidered a lign of prad ln<^ 

Tba fint time yon see the new 

roar money in yatu pocket for good lock ; 

, thing, and ft will snraly happen. To see 

■a new moon throngh the branches of treea, be the flist 

tiau, is considered very unlncky. 
To aee wie magpie alone Is also very unln<^. 

rung oi mo dog. 
Galherh^ Ftni-ierd.—Oa Hidsnmmer night at 12 
o'clock go where the fern grow«,draw a drcla round you. 
Inscribe the twelve ugns of the Zodiac, place twelve 
pewter plates nnder the fbm otia mHuK tit ethtr, and 
repeat the following — 

" In the holy name of Jesns may 1 be fittA 
From every harm, whilst gathering fern esed." 
After repeating this be sare yon speak not, or coma ont 
of the circle before 1 o'clock; the seed wilt drop throa(^ 
eleven of the platea. bnt the twelfth will catch it. Let no 
person attempt to gather it, for terrible will be the con- 
sequences of a failure.' 

Id the village of Smethwick, Staffordshire, It is cn>. 
tomary with boys, promising anything to each other, to 
repeat the follonlag (first making the sign of the crosa 
on theli throat) : — 

" Hangy Bangy, cnt my throat. 

At 10 o'clock at night; 

Hang me ap, bang me down. 

Hang me all about ttie town." 

Believing, if they do not perform according to promise, 

the spirit invoked will certainly appear and cut their 


To core Ou Mtuapi. — Lead the person afflicted three- 

ndasprint ' """'■ '" ""' - 

b« blindfolded! 

Tn curt H'urfs.— Eab them Drarwith a dead man's- 
hand ; or steal a piece of beef, mb them with It. aad then 
bum tbe beef) or rob them with a black snail, and then 
bang the snail on a blackthorn boah; or rub them, night 
and morning, with fasting spittle i or rub them with the 
tali of a tortoiaeshell Tom cat in May. 

A dead person's tooth, carried tn the pocket, cnrea the - 
tooth-ache. Ittnust be a woman's tooth for a man, aa<L 

. __ _o the 

water, exclaiming: "Ague, agut^ tboa hast tormented 
me. snd now I'll diown theel" Walk away without 
looking behind yoa, and the ague ia cnred. 

A small hone ont of a sheep's head, carried in the 
pocket, cures tbe tooth-ache: it most be taken fhim the 
light side for a man, and the left for a woman. 

Wittheraji. — Go to a monntain-aih baftjre the aon 
rises, and cut therefrom three twigs ; be careful they do 
not touch the gionad ; lake them home, and make three 
small crosses of them ; tie vilh while wonted, and plac* 
one DEer the door, one under the door, and DM in tha 
bosom of the person bewitched. 

■ In Marvell'a poem of Daplaut ami (^Um (mM !1), 

.jijj^ " Or the witch that midnight wake^ 
For tbe fern, whose magic weed 
In one moment casts the seed. 
And inviuble him makes." 




[l* 8, VII. Fm. 4, 71. 

AjnKiour FouLosb. — 'In P^asylTWii*, U.S. 
America, it is beliOTed that, if you do not kill 
the flnt black makB you see, you -will hnre bad 
lucb tlie remainder of the year. 

In Virginia h is belieTed that, if yon KH a 
black ftnuce and lianft it on a Fenimmon treo 
(IHvipfroi Virginica), it oaiuee it to rain. 

I copy the folloYring from a DoYenport (Iow&) 
paper. The writer ray»: — 

X Chatthig with H aged ladr, we noticed the vondcr- 
ftd pneerratioD and beau^ of her l«eth, and eoald not 
lefraiiilVDBimentioiiiagll. ' Ye»,' said she, ■ I neyer had 
■ toothache or loit a loach, bacaaM I bit the eoakc' On 
Inqaiiy ihe atated thu. vbta children at home, their 
bther had maile Ihem bite a rattleanake, be holding the 
reptile by the bead fiDd tail ; each child bit along the 
entire length of the backbone, not violent];, but Just so 
u to indent ttie sltin ; and this was considered an ln(al~ 
lible recipe against tootliache and deca;, and which tbe 
old lady believe* la np to the present hour." 


Philadelphia, Fcmuj'ivtuiia, V. S. America. 


J. Ck. B. in « H. & Q." (4'" S. vL 480) prea 
t, Mef, but interesting, deacripldon of this his- 
torical wHnen, vhioh links the past with the 
present by the twofold promulgation of laws 
maularly establiahed. J. Ck. R. writes : — 

" The moat perfect specimen of this [-^law mount] Is 
that in the Isle of Man culled T)/na!alfl-hill, sltaated 
abont two miles from Peel, so named from the Norae 
Thing, pronounced Was (from Old Norse Hiiitga, to dia- 
ooursa or deliberate apoa), and void, a bank or monnd." 

" This monnd, which is still in nsa, ' consists of ftmr 
circular terraces, or plitTorms, each sacceaaiTely rising 
above the other, and diminishing in breadth. The breadth 
of the lowest terrsoe is eight feet ; tbe second six feet ; 
the third four feet ; and tbe Ibnrlb and Iitst, forming the 
apex, six feet. Sacb terrace Is three feet high; the total 
height of tbe hill is twelre, and its circtimterence at the 
base two bondrtd and forty feet. The ascent is b; a 
flight of slcpa cut on the UBtern side Irom the biaa to the 
■Qmmit.' " 

In Cregeen's Maitkt Dktwnary I find tlie fol- 
lowing statement: — 

*■ Crokk-kbbillown b John's Chnich-hill, or the bill 
of Joba'a Church, called also Tynwald Hill, is sitnate 
about tbree miles fVom Peel, In the parish of German, ou 
the main road to Douglas. No doubt but the latter part 
of this word Is a corruption of Em or Ptum (John). 
This is the hill or mount on which the eoDStltuled an- 
thoriticB promulnte all their Statute Laws, In Hanks 
and English, to the people." 

In the (Quotation by J. Ck. K. the distance from 
Peel ia said to be about ttvo miles. By Cregeen 
it is stated to be abnut three miles. In exoavnting 
for a buried monument, or ruin, au error of a 
mile might prove seriously and vexatioWy incon- 
Tenient It might also now be well to ascertain 
and record the number of steps, and the drcum- 
fbtence of each terrace. 

My chief object in this communication, how- 

ever, is to note that, IS the height, 4 tbe numbai 
of tenacM, 8 the height of each ascent, 6, 6, 4, a 
the respectiTe widths of tiie terraces; S-i-4 Uia 
firstand third=e+'6 the second andfourth— are 
all factors of 240, the drcumference, which is in 
pn^rtion to 360, tbe great (urcle, as 2 is to 8 ; 
that as 360:340:: 3: 2; — so tiie height 
13x2-t-3-8, the first width; and the height 
9x2-1-3=6, the second>idth; and tbe height 
6x2-i.3 = 4, the third width; and the height 
3x2-6, the fourth widtii. That there are four 
UKwnte, because four units compose the equam, 
four weeks the month, four seasons the year, 
fourquartersthecircIe,andfour = E.N.'W.S. That 
three feet is their e^usl ascent, because three 
unite compose the equilateral triangle, three eidce 
-any triangle, three ^ trinity genertdlj. That 
the product of the triBDgle*snd square, 3x4 = 12, 
the duodecimal number, and the first two digits 
1, 2, which, added to tbe digits 3,4=10, tlie 
decimal number; and by simple addition the 
digits (1, 2^ 3, 4,) 6, 6, 7, a, 9, (0), result. That 
the ascent is bj steps on the esstern side, because 
the sun rises in the east; that the height is 12, 
because there are twelve signs in the zodiac, 
twelve diyiuons of the great circle, twelve montba 
in the ^ear, and that, as the sun in his zenith 
always indicates noon-day or twelve, so the sum- ' 
nut of the hill is duodecimal or twelve ; that 
the sum of the uiuts of tbe triangle end square, 
3 + 4 = 7, the days of the week, and the extraor- 
dinary septiliteral number; that the udes of the 
simplest right-angled triocf^le ara 3, 4, 6 = 12, the 
sum, and - 60, the product — of such general 
application in astronomical, gsograpbical, and 
temporal computations. 

-AJl the preceding and other lessons are con- 
tained and may be read in and learned from tbe 
construction of Tynwald Hill, when perused by 
an^ one capable of reading that ^moolical hill 

Thus this mount or hill is evidentlT a very 
symbolical book for the initiated to reaa, and for 
inquirers to decipher. And as the sun, in run- 
ning W circuit, illuminates the face and rules or 
gOTems the order of nature, so the promulgation 
of laws, bv ascending to the summit of the mount, 
tends to tne enlightenment and good government 
of society, which would be otherwise chaolic and 
uncivilised, were it not for the influence of an 
enlightening ruler or an enlightened lawgiver. 

And 'for lurther information, I should now like 
some correspondent to state whether tbo fact of 
Tynwald Hill, and Cronk-Keeillown or John's 
Church Hill, being interchangeable designations, 
ia accidental, inteiitional, or symbolical. 

J. Rl AtE. 

SpitU«gate, Gnmtbam. 




LtOBj>Fi.DNEETii.— bft»B««a!aof Mr. O'Ftmia- 

iW new number oS tli» Quai'tarb/ Sevievi, the 
rerieweT says in his Dotdce of Lord PbtokeU— 

"Tbe most celebrated of hii imigei ia thMoTTiine 
with tbe houT-gluB and tbe scythe, which hii emplofed 
to iUutnee the e Act of the Statute of LiButatione." 

Lofd Brougham gives the ^jneasge m ^oeation 
ui tb« fbllowiD^ words : — 

" Tim* with his scvtbe In his hand ii ever mawiiig 
dowti tbe eridencea of titles; wherefore the wisdoiaofHw 

a ottt the periods of poaseasioQ t^ 
tjw pUa* of tbft HwrniwontB hia x:7tb« bu destroTwL'' 

Lead Amigtem Mfsiato (bis passage moie than 
•BC«, and cJwwfs with uitbouiidad contm^td^lJOB. 
It is no doubt T«^ fine and very striking, but it is 
t» ba regMtted tt^t it is pure nonsetwe ; and it is 
beyond meMura sttaage tbat ka absurdity should 
not bftve been seen by its leanied ntterai, Lord 
Plunliett, ot by either of its admiring atitics, 
Lovd Brongham on the QuurUriy reTiewet. I find 
tbe Blatter noticed in the following terms in a 
pamphlet priiited for private circulation ; — 

"The hom-glae* meteiDgont Che periods of pooKSsIon 
U Dot for tli> pnipou of supplring the place of tlie moni- 
menta which tbe scythe has liastioyed, bat jost the oou- 
traiy — (bM is. ta protect tbe man io poaaetdon against 
muDJiiKDts which the scytlu hsa failed to destroy." 

It agpeara to m« that it is time that this 
lauded illustratioD should be rated at its true 
value. While the ques^n ia before me, I may 
D0ti£e that there is a passace at p. 1^ which will 
give some surprise to English lawyers. The re- 
viewer, speaking of Loid Xhurlow and I<ord 
CUre, says:— 

"Neither the Eogliah nor the Iriih chancellor pos- 
■caiedtbe nqoired amoantariearniDEor practicst know- 
ledge. IfosC of Tburlow's decrees were drawn, op br 

Lord Eldon, speaking of Lord Thuriow as a 
lawrer, always spoke of him as " that prodigious 
mai" u. H. C. 

AirnauTTT 07 Ladigs' Chiijxoks.— It may be 
interesliDg to soma of your lady readers to know 
tfiat there was a Oreek author who lived in the 
second centuiT of tbe Christian era, and that he 
wrote a very leamod book upon Dr«amt, in. which 
ha incidentally refers to the bellei of his day as 
we^ng chtgmma, and adapting the same eipetU- 
cote (that are said to be) employed in this da; for 
ttepurpose of increasing their solidity and beauty. 
These are tbe words ascribed to Artemidorus : 
" If a -woiBHn dreams aha has long and lovely' hair, it 
is a dream signidcaDt of good lock, efeaimptilcnrihtdirtia 

C'a qmandoipit ttiam aaenit capUlis muiitrtM tttiMbtr ; 
use women, for the aske of adding to their attiactiona, 
make use of othei women's hair." 

I have not a copy of Artemidorus, nor could I 
procure one in this bookless French ville, and so 

cannot veeCy Aa accuracy of the quotation; but 
I give it as I find it in a modem Oeroian author, 
Dr. Pfa7e, who^ at tlie Bam» time, notifies his 
abbonence of du^om in tiiese terms :— 

"JkDd eO( it seems, this abominable puetlGe was in 
fssUoa amonuttbe ancisnts! Dieee abacbeuliche Si^ 
Echeint also scbon in AJtcrthume genesea zu sein I " 

The chignon of the second ceotury, it must bs 
admitted, was not so monstrous as the pyiamidicBl 
headrdtessee of the Roman matrona'of Uie first cen- 
tu^, of whom it is said by Juvenal (Sat. vL 600- 
603), that a lady has her head piled up into so 
many folds and stories in height, that when ^a 
faces you she looks as tall and stately aa a tragedy- 
queen, and when she turns her back she seems to 
be BO diminutive as to be somebody else t 

"Tot nemit ndioibaa, tot adbac compagibus altnm 
JE^hnaX caput ; Andromacban & fVonte videbie, 
Foat minor est : credas allam." 

W. R Mao Cajjb. 

Hoacoatour-de-BiMagne; Cotes du Nord, France, 

ConfcramrcB of TsotrsHT, — Dr. Johnson baa 
Budthat"no one does anything toi the last time 
(knowingly) but with regret" 

I met recently with this passage in Bishop 
Hall'ajifo/y Obseniaiiiini, xxvii. ; 

"Nothing is more abaurd than that Epicurean resola' 

11 die," &0. 

J. A. G. 


The SiBAiaHi Gate asd Nabbow Was.— 
Matthew viL 14. " Straight is Uie gate, and narrow is 
the way, which leadeth nnto life, and few there be that 
And it*' 

Compare with these' words of our Blessed Lord 
eome ungulariy like, utt«red by Keb^ upwards 
of four hundred years before ; — 

OiiJcoiii' mil Bipay tuu nutfit, no] iSuv Tira uph t^i 

Tni ; . . . AEttj TottTjr iinii' ^ iSis, l^v, fl iyoMa 
wphs tJj* iAijSipJji' TrcuSilay. — Ild'n^ 

. This, aaid he, is the way which IhkMIl to true 

EebSs was a Theban philosopher, and a disdpla 
of Socrates, whom he attended in bis last mo- 
ments. He wrote three treatises, less knovra than 
they deserve to be. Of these the most celebrated 
is the ni'NAH, "containing a beautiful and afi^ct- 
ing picture of human life." He flourished abont 
B.O. 410. Edhuhd Tew, M,A. 

EnnrBB BuPBBStinoHS. — I gather the follow- 
ing from a Sittory of Snlyrt, hr Peter-lCIidiOflki 
(CMopbeltown, 1870) : — I - nzea by tn O O »^ I C 




Old John M'Taggut vas a trader between 
Kiatyte and IrelaDd. WisliiDg to get a fair wind 
ta waft bis bark acnsa to tbe emerald isle, lie 
applied to an old woman who was eud to be able 
to give this. He received from ber two sbringe, 
on each being three knots. He nndid the tint 
knot, and tbere blew a fine breeze. On opening 
the eecond, the breeie became a gale. On nearing 
the Irish shore he loosed the third, and such a 
humcane arose that some of the bouses on shore 
were destroved. On cominK back to Kintyre, he 
waa careful to uulooM onl; two hnots on the 
temaining string. 

" On the lalanil of Glgba ii ■ well with same Btonea la 
it ) and it is aaid that if Lhe Monea be taken out of it a 
great storm irill arise." 

D. Macphail. 

Thread Btmons.— Tbe making of thread but- 
tons, which was once a flourishing trade in Dorset- 
shire, has DOW almost ceased to De. It occurs to 
me that before it finally departs it may be as well 
to record its nomenclature. The more common 
sorts of buttons were Jam*, Mrti, ipraag/ei, nnd 
muSet. In Mr. Baraes's Glouary, j ams (tbe lai^st 
size) are noticed, but not the pretty little sprangles 
and mites, which are far too delicate a mauuhc' 
ture to be superseded without regret 

C. W. BnraHAii. 

CuBiouB Epitaph. — In the last centory opera- 
tire surgery does not appear tu hare been confined 
to the T^ular surgeons ; for in the beautiful little 
church of Stoke Holy Cross, near Norwich, is a 
mural monument to a qjer^man who died in 
1719, and is represented^ in an inscription (sur- 
lonnded by designs of various surgical instru- 
ments) as having been distinguished for his abilities 
in theology, physic, surgery, and lithotomy : — 

" Memoric Sacrum Th«u(e Havers, derid, qnl Th«i>- 
logia, Hedicina, Chimrgi* eC Lytbotomis, doctoi fait et 
ezpsrtus: Erga Deam Pioi, Erga Homines jiutus: pan- 
peribua et cKrotii aemper amiciu. Obiit !7° die Janll, 
A' I>amiDi 1T19, cUtis sue 60." 

I am tempted to give ^ou another very short, 
but very beautiful, epitaph from tbe same 
church; — 

" In the womb of this tomb twins in expectation lay. 
To be bom la the mom of tbe Bcaanectlon Day.''^ 
Chablbs WitiJAiis, F.R.O.P. 

The supposed Mutohic Epitaph. — The 
phrase "calcined into dust" occurring in the 
epitaph in question was deemed barbarous by its 
critics, who even made the phrase an a^ment 
for its spnriousnfss. The so-called barbarous ex- 

Creasion we find, however, is uaed at least once 
y Locke (J^Moy on tit Human UtuUritandmg, 
book II. ch^. X. J 6) : " Since we oftentimes find 

("be is speakii^ of memotr] the flames of a fever 
m a few days ealeme all uiese images lo dial and 
confuuon." I am not aware thij passage has been 
noticed before. J. B. 


PHOToeBAFHT : THE Wab asd " Thb Tikes." 
" N. & Q." was, we believe, the first journal 
which showed its recognition of the great value 
of photography and the important results, literary, 
artistic, and social, which might be anticipated 
from it by opening its columns to photographers 
until tbe science had sufficiently advanced to have 
a journal of its own. The following interesting 
account of tiie manner in which tbe science has 
lately been adopted lo relieve some of the social 
exigencies resulting from the dreadful war may, 
therefore, verr pro^Iy be transfeired to its 
columns from Tfte Tunes of January 30; — 

leagaeied inbabitants of Paris aod tbelr relatives and 
friends beyond ibe Uermin liuu bave given rise to many 
contrivancea vbicb are not unlikely to make a new 
era lo the history both of aerouanlica and phologriphy. 
Among them mav be meotioned tbe iogenioas device by 
which tbe matter of two whole pa^ea of 7% Tima baa 
been tranamitted fhim London to Parie. This baa been 
■ccompiiabed by photography. Thoee pages of the ^per 
which contained commanicaliona to relatives in Paris 
were photi^iapbed with great care by the London Ste- 
reoscopic and Photiigrapbic Compacj on places of tbia 
and almoat Iransparcnc paper, aboot an Inch and a half 
in length by an inch iii width. (Jn then impreoions 
there could be seen by the naked e^^'e only two legible 
words, ' 77ti Tlmtt,' and aix narrow brown'bands lepre- 
aeoting the aix columns of printed matter forming a page 
of the newspaper. Under the microacope, however, tne 
brown spaces become legible, and every lioe of Ihenews- 
paper waa found to have been dintioctly copied and with 
tbe greatest clearnesa. The phot«grapha were sent to 
Borde«ni for traunoiaaion thence by carrier pigeon to 
Paris. When received there thev were magnified, by the 
aid of the magic lantern, to a large die and thrown upon 
a screen. A staff of clerks immediately transcribed the 
messages, and sent tbem off to the places indicated by 
tbe advertiaers. The eucceBS of tbia experiment givea 
the hope that the new art of compressing printed 

r inb 

smaU c 

ifill n 

If a 

Tht TVnui can be compteased Into a space littla 
lan that occupied by a poatage stamp, tbe matter 
of an octavo volume might be made to cover not more 
than two of its own pages, and a libraiy could be re- 
daced to the dimensions of tbe amallest prayer-book. 
What a relief It would be to tbe learned persons who fre- 

catalogue of books, they had iL 
bondred Volnmes reduced to a space a yard square, over 
which a microscope could be hurriedly passed. Such 
tnggestions are now occupying the thoughts of pholo- 

a by Google 

*'»S.Vir. Feb. 4, 71.] 



AiTTRoaa WAiTiBD.— Who is the aDthoT of — 

" Bertrand, or Heinoira of a Korthumbijan NoUeman, 
in the ScTentecntli CcnCur}-. WrilWn by HlmMlf." In 
8 vob. " London, printed «t the Minerva Preu for Lane, 
Newnun, & Co, Uadenhall Street, 1808." 

J. FERRr. 

Walthsm Abbey. 

" Marv Magdalen's Tears irip'l off ... . Londoo : 
Printed fur Kobert Tairlrtt, n( Iha Bible in Cbancer/ 
Lane, near Fleet Street, 1670." 

The vork AdvocatcB strouglj private conreuioD 

Medieval Babks.— In those inaUnces \Th«re 
the finiids Btill remaiit ua the gables of the roof, 1 
have obaeired that, instend of being as ia usual, 
npright, they are of a beot form. I hfiTe never 
observed them of the same form in nay other 
mediasval biulding ; and this form being, eo far aa 
I am avTue, conmied to buns — and being more- 
over, as I thiak, aingularly ungraceful — I have 
been led to coojecture thst it must have hud 
some symbolical meaning. Can any of JOur 
correspondents offer any explanation of itP A 
representation of a finial anch as I refer to will 
be found in tlie Oxford Olouaiy, 6th ed. plate 66, 
At yii& Iiittleton, in Worcestershire, there is a 
barn on which there are four such finials, all bent, 
if I recollect rightly, towards the south. 


Ltoens oh Bblu.— Can any lover of bells tell 
me where the following legend is F The initial 
cross and interrening stops are very elegant, and 
the letters highly ornamented. I possess a rub- 
bing of it, but nave no memorandum where or 
when it was taken. I am informed that the same 
cross and slops are on bells at St, Mary's Bever- 
ey, and at Slanground, Hunts. This is the 
legend in ejieiuo ; — 

» €iiit<ul : ttoiUaum : Mi^wl : (t : Su|; : 

H. T. Ellacombe. 
Oyst St. George, Devon. 

The Bird Caob Walk.— When I first remem- 
ber the Bird Cuge Walk in St. James's Park — 
"In iD.v hot yootfa, when Georea the Tliird wsi Idog" — 
it waa the drill-gTound of the young soldieis 
belongioff to the 1^1 Ouards ; and the length of 
the stri(U or step which they were taught waa 
marked by rows of narrow white stones let into 
the gravel. Is this a common practice, end how 
long is it nnce they were taken up? How this 
honid war recalls to mind the distressing scenes 
I have witnessed in the Bird Cage Walk, when 
detachments of the Quards wen marched off to 
foreign eervice I W.J. T. 

British Sotthes Chariots : Maa. Mare- 
BAX. — I have just read with great interest Mr. 
Trollope's graphic summary of Csasar's Commen- 
tatiea in the admirable series of Ancient Clauka 
for English JReadtrs, edited by Mr. Coliina. It 
contains a note at pp. 70-80 denying that the 
Britons used scythed chariots. This question waa 
brought forward in " N. & Q." in 1860 (2»* S. 
ix. £S5), but was never followed up, though the 
Editor invited special attention to it aa an inter- 
esting subject which deserved further investiga- 
Uon. Mr. Trollope, I think, does not state tlie 
case very happily or fairly, and seems to me to 
do scant justice to the excellent writer who is so 
well known under her adopted name of Mrs. 
Markham. He angles out Mrs. Markbam and 
Eugene Sue as peciuiar people who have mainly 
fostered the popular deluaion that the Britons u^d 
scythed chariots, whereas the matter was never 
questioned (as the Editor of " N. & Q." observes) 
until the year 1840, when the Marquis de Lagoy's 
work appeared— .«. o. see the Pemy Cyclopceiui, 
Lend. 1838, s.». "Chariot." 

As to Mis. Penrose (" Mrs, Markham "), I ven- 
ture to say that her Mittory of England (first 
published in 1823) is the beat history for the 
young that ever appeared, and is fiu superior to 
many works of much higher pretension. It is 
well written, well informed, and marked by sound 
judgment and Kood sense, and is moreover ex- 
tremely interestug. I know of no history used 
in any of our public schools at all comparable to 
it It is on a different plan from Hiss Yonge's ex- 
cellent Laadmarkt, but is equally meiitorions. 

^ ^ ' «.Q. 

DBifARics OF Drubus, Sebior. — I have in my 
cabinet a denarius of Druaua, Sen., struck when 
he had the title of " Princeps Juventutis." The 
obverse has a plain, unlauieated, and very youth- 
ful bust Legend — 


On the reverse are four sacred implements — 
Tic the lituus, tripod, patera, and ladle for liba- 
tions. Legend — 

nvK . BX 8 . C 

It is the reverse legend that I cannot under- 
stand. What would it be in full, and what is the 
meaning and application of it P J. U. M. 

CfRIous EireRAViira. — In a volume (De Arte 
CahoUitica) containing works of P. Riccius, l*o 
Hebneus, Renchlin, and Ficua Mirandolus, printed 
at Bssle, 1587, there is a curious print, extending 
over both the open folios, representing a tourna- 
ment in a court euclosed on all sides by houses. , ^ 
Nine knights are on each side, six actually en- 
gaged. One has just tmhorsed his adversary, and 


[iu-S-Vn. Fm.4,'71. 

Ib tbiowing up bis epeta into the air in token of 
'toiuinph. His nnhorsed adverenry is placed, «p- 
pMently in derision, on a wooden rail. The fol- 
lowing is written above the plate in continuoiu 
Unes over both folios : — 

" Exemplum Indicra cominisslonU cqnestriB oliin ib 
eqnestn ordjae «t nobilitaU GennsaicB concelsbrari et 
ezJiiberi toliCie in qno qas (obindB a nobis toto libro 
secnndi tomi PandecUrom triumphalium da cnratoribus 
wl clrd limina, da fonium incisiona, de modiperatoriboa 
pugriE de Beptornni in eqnilatiotie ftmosa, nnnommqae 
et equi arnissione. cle detiodioTum deniqae ampiitttione 
nr, D<;uloriim aeniibiu maaifesda- 

1 aubtici 

Mbakibg of "Fob." — What b the origin or 
meaning of the word " fog" as Applied to the later 
growth of grass in fields for teednig purposes P 
The word ia common, I believe, in only parts of 
Yorkshire, where at "WTiithy I was struck first 
with it, in an advertisement of " so many acres of 
fog to be sold," S. H. 

i Wedgwood eonnecis Fog and Fuj, which he deflnea, 
TII8B not eaten down tn the anmmer, that ^o«a in 

Wvlcb/u'ir; but it would saem Irom Atkinson's Glonan/ 
of the ClrtcloMt Dialat , tb«t in that district and ia 
neltniortland, while ./ng is applied to the aReigrovtb in 
meadows when the hay has been cut otF,^ iliDply means 
a dried grass Stem.] 

The Eobou) of Gbobbn.— What is the pre- 
(ase title of on BDODymoas work on this subjeot 
.published in 1719, and also of Oottfr. Wahrlieb's 
naTTstlTe P I have 7a»i^U» der nitien Wahrheit, 
1723, by Jeremina Hemiscb, and VntenicU toie 
man Getpentler und OetpemtergeschichUn ptiifin 
toll, t. I., 1723 (by whom?), and wotild be glnd 
to learn if there are other tracts on the same sub- 
ject Scott. 

Manx Cat3 atjd Fowls, — Can any of your 
readers refer me to any theory which has Been 

Eut forward to account for the existence of the 
reed of tailless cats and fowls, so common in* the 
Isle of Man P MoRiENSia. 

Wipe ov Oborsb Nbvill, etc.— Who was the 
wife of George Nevill, Lord Latimer, eon of Rnlph 
Nevill, Earl of Westmoreland, by Joan, daughter 
of John of Gaunt ; also, her armorial bearings P 
J. C. 
Phi-Beta-Kappa Society of Bostok.^— Please 
say why this society is so called. What do the 
three Greek initial letters mean ? 

Jaitm J, Lahb. 

[Consult " N. 4 Q." i"' S. iii. lOB.] 

The "PoTTERa" of the NoHTHBiwr Coinr- 

TiEs. — Has any correspondent of " N, & Q." ever 

nuaed a discussion on the nbuye nomadic trihesP 

They have all the diaracteristics of the gypsy 
tribe ; but are they gypsies, or are they not tha 
descendants of the Scotch and English moss 
troopers ? Some of the real gypsy tribes disown 
the potten, biit others say they are the same. 
The jollowing are surnames home by potters in 
the North British isles : Jollie, Younghusband, 
Ibbetson, Bell (Wordsworth's potter was a Bell), 
Storey, Stanley, Cooper, Solomon. I cannot in- 
crease my list, which I know is imperfect. Of 
the above names I think that the only gyiny 
ones are Stanley and Cocker. It is curious to find 
the Jewish name Solomon borne by " potters." I 
could say more on the subject, but I postpone 
further remarks and conjectures, in hopes that we 
may have informaliou from some one who haa 
studied the subject more than 1 have done. 

Jai[E8 Uehkt Dixoh. 

" The Hbabts op Men which pokblt," etc. 
W ho is the author of the lines inscribed on the cor- 
nice of the domed gallery at the Royal Academy, 
Burlington House, and which run as follows : — 
"The heatta of men wbich fbodlyhere admire 
Fair seeming ihewi may lilt themselvea up higher, 
And Iram to lovo with zoalons humble duty 
The eternal {boDtaiu of tliat heavenly beauty." 

E. K. T. 


" Rua hoc vocsri debet, an domoe longe ? " 


Who b the author of some stanzas entitled 

"Good Night"? They appeered in the ioiirfon 

Literary Journal (I think) before October, 1829. 

I give Uie commencement of the first : — 

" Good night to thee, lady, though mnny 
Have Joined in the dance to-night," Ac. 

L. T. A. 
" A glowing iris bending o'si the »tonn, 
A swan emerging from the waves as bright," die. 
St. Joseph's Eve.— 

" This is the Bong one might perecira 
On ■ Wednesday mom of St. Joseph's Eve." 
These lines occur in Longfellow's translation of 
The Blind Oirl of Cadil-Ceilii, from the Gascon 
of Jasmin, and hear reference to nn approaching 
wedding procesuoa. Can yon help me to any 
meaning of them, oi tradition connected with this 
dayP I have read that St. Joaeph'a Day is 
unlucky for marriages. A. S. 

Thomas Staxxet, Bishop of Sobob and Mak. 
In the Lancashire Chaniriee, vol. i. p. 60, note, 
being vol. lis. of the Chothnra Society, this pro- 
late, who was also Rector of Winwick, Wigan, 
and North Meoles, issaid to he "a younger son of 
the second Lord Monteagle." In an article ly 
BnuoTHECAE. Chetham ("N. &Q," 4" S, vi. 

*& Tn. P«B.4,T1.]. 



iltjmeB, to be the "eon of that Sir EdwttHl SCfm- 
leywho, for hia votour' Ett Floddea, was orssted 
Lord Monteagle " — the firat Lord Monteegle, I 
mppose. AutboDj k Wood (Alhen. Oxon., vol. ii. 
coL 807) conteote himeelf with Mying tiiat he 
waa a cadet of the fiimily of the Stanleys, which 
is true ; but I want the whole truth. Where 
was tbis prelate boried, Mid where else than ' 
priratelj printed books can a oopj of the Stanley 
poem oa the Earls of Derby be found P 

"Thocohis ot Piraicnia."— Who was Ibi 
uthor of the above work, of which the full title 

" Tfaoogbts of Patririnis sn Ulilitist, on the Interasla 
of Hankind and piTticulirly on Ihosa or die Xiiiii Nation ; 
■iM ■ few occsnonal TiscM. The whole writUn late in 
life hj an Honoiarf Member of ihe Dublin Society. 
I>abUD, 1785." 

On the title-pflge iu mj copy ia the following 
MS. note:— 

" Aod ia trutb lo fuithfally priDtod, tbet y* author is 
almost ashamed even to beatow it to his much admired 
Bolingbroke. He )uppre«wd ;■ sale of it, because of Its 
defects, bat dispersed ft to his dssceiidaati, in y* hope of 
iU doiuK some good— linoiriiig that a good InUntioa 
dfOtted it. Deo. T'', 1795. B. G." 

E, Ph. SaiaLEr. 

Loi^ Fea, CurioknuicraBS. 

" Thb TiMBa WnwTLB," bto. bt "R. C."— In 
"The Times Whistle," which I am now editing 
bom the Canterbury US., occuib the following 
IMWge: — 

" Carrier of late would Iiava made hii otreer 
(Th inking perhaps to be uteemM dear 
Of th' anUcbrisdau prdatc) to tbe oiltj 
Ofaeven-biirdHome: -O, and," say some, "twas pilty 
That his (boir e're [hey grant it lewd) intent 
Met not s look't fbr prospcron* event. 
For tae. beeaose big learmng wu not small, 
Uiglil in abort time have twen a CaidinaU.' 
What bis Hicceese had prov'd I dare not say, 
For he was cat of from bis nishM prey : 
High Jove, infens'd (hat Ihuj he sbould backslide. 
Stroke him, and in a neighbour land he died. 
Some tblok he ifai not Apottdicall. 
Bat alwaiea in bit heart papbticall," Ac 


. __-8 this description of "Carrier"? 

2. Can any reader of " N. k Q-" surest who 
"R. C, Gent." wasF 

The date of the satiies may be placed & little 
earlier than 1616 ; the poema in thb latter year. 

Farerabam. 3. M. COWPER. 

MncTAL EaouiTT o9 thb Sexbs, — It would 
be intereatinr, as tonchiDg thia mncb-debated 
<iaeBtion, to leam whether that atrange f^ft of 
natural calculation (possessed amon^ others by 
tlu late Archbishop Whately in bi» boyhood) 
W erer been bestowed om girie. I have put 

this- <]uery before without receiving any nply. 
Surely among the readers of " N. & Q." thue 
diouM be some able to give one. 


Tbohsoh a. DstUD. — Why does Collins, in his 
ele^ on Thomson, call him a Druid F I am not 
asking for a learned dissertation on the term. I 
know the meaning of Druid. But how was the 
" poet of the seasons " one ? 

Stspukit Jacksoit. 

Ts& Canal of XEBXse.— In Cox's MytJidlogy 
of the Aryan Natimu (i. 03) occurs the following 

" It ia now asserted that ■ OfTa's dyke ' is a natural work, 
and OSk himself is thus carried suspiciously near the 
cloud land of mythology. The fupposed canal of Xerxes, 
at the base of Mt. Athos, has shared the same fate i and 
tbe anspidoD of Juvenal (^ 74), that the atory was a 
tnyth, has Ihns been verified. ' OSa's dyke ' and the canal 
ofXerxcfl are, in short, no more artificial than Fingol's 
Cave and the Giant's Causeway." 

As regards ths canal of Xerxes, this seema a 
bold assertion, and especially in spite of the 
authority of Tbucydides (bk. iv. lOG) and of 
Herodotus (bk.Tii.), whose testimony alone would, 
I should think, be quite strong enout^h to prove 
that it bad existed. Col. Lealu, in bis Travel* at 
Greece (vol iii. ch. ttit.), gives particnlara of a 
careful survey of it, and likewise B reason why it 
sbould be made. The auspituon of Juvenal, con- 
sidering his well-known tendency to ezaggeratioa 
and his contempt for the Oreeklings and " para 
Nilinci plebis," sc, cannot be taken into account. 
What is Mr. Cox's authori^ for die asaeitioo, 
and what tbe verification of Juvennl'a suspicion P 
T.E. C. 


Con any one inform us when the government 
stamp on picture canvas was first imposed and 
when taken offP H. O. & ( 

K 4 Co. 


(4^ S. Tii. 50.) 
A correspondent^ who dates from TurveT, says 
that tbe psri^b register of Enossington Grange 
" records '' Richard Sanwon as rector of the parish 
from 1568 to 1039. Although I have no acquaint- 
aace with that register, I can venture to assert 
that it "records" no such fact. Tbis corre- 
spondent has been misled by an absurd fitUacy, 
excusable in one who is evidently not an expert 
in perish registers. The bets are these : Parish 
registers began generally bv an injunction of 
Thomas Cromwell in 1638. ^bese registers vrere 
small books of paper, liable to decay and to be 
lost, and many of them did thus sufier. In the 
fit«t year of James I., 1803, an injunction was 
issued (see Gibson's Codex, i. 229) commanding 



every jwrish lo 1» provided nith 
booli for the renEtei ; flnd it wu further ordf red 
that the old legiatera from 1638, or as fnr back as 
they could he fouDd, should be copied into this 
new book, and that the miuiBter and church- 
wudena should Bubscribe their names at the foot 
of every page or year. Hence it is found that 
li«flrly all the regislere -whieh extend back beycDd 
1603 are signed from the beginning by the incum- 
bent of the latter dale, and of course continue to 
be ao signed till the end of his incumbency. 
Thus, if the registers of EnoiBiogtou Grange had 
gone back to 1638, as they would have done had 
some not been lost, this correspondent would have 
astonished ua with a rector who had reigned one 
hundrrd and one years, and whose age must then 
have been at least a bundled and twenty-five ! 
Here ia another centenarian vox et pretterta nihil.' 

You will doubtleas receive miiny 
tioDS showing that this supposed long incumbency 
arose from Bichard Samson signing the new 
registers i but would it not ba well, by way of 
clenching the matter, to ascertain from the dio- 
cesan registers, if possible, who the rector or 
rectors of Enosungton Orange vera betveen John 
WestmiU and EicWd Samson F II. F. T. 

The difficulty of your correspondent 11. is one 
which presents itself to all sluaents of old regis- 
tere at the commencement of their researches. In 
explanation let me quote a few lines from the 
Cambridge Camden Society's Churche* of Cam- 
hridgethire, p. 16. The church being described is 
Cherry Hinton ; — 

"The parish r^rter dates back a> far u 1SS8> tbe 
^tar in wbich Cnuawdt, then vicsi-genfnl, iuucd 
bii injunclioD with r«g*ri. to Ihem : il i> nol, however, 
to be inferred that Iha existing vuln me ia ofthatdite; 
for in tlie laet of (bs coDslilulions of tbe synod of tbe 
province of Canlerbnry, hdd in 1697, it vu ordained 
tbal tbe parish booka,ni09t of which liad beRire that time 
been liept on paper, librii eharlacca, should ba trto- 
scribed on parchment, nnd so kept for the fbtarei eiefa 
page of the transcript befof; signed by (he minister and 
chureh wardens, gardiam or the church." 

In the register at Cherry Hinton some observer 
had noted that eveir page from J638 to 1004 
was signed by Hr. Moigne, ricar, who had thus 
entered in the book that he had been ricar for 
sixty-sis years, and had had the same church- 
wardens for fifty-nine years. But this aame 
Thomas Moigne died before be was seventy years 
old, and was made Bishop of Kilmore seventeen 
^ears after he resided Cherry Hinton. In a note 
IS mentioned en instance of the same thing at 
Bishopsboume church, Kent, wliore the signa- 
ture of Richard Hooker occurs as early as 1606, 
at which time he was about thirteen years of age. 

In this neighbourhood I hara mot wilh many 
^^llutrations of the above. At Whittlesey St 

Mary the rignature of I^ancis Gates occurs as 
vicar from 1660 to 162S ; and a subsequent vicar 
has made note to the effect that he whs vicar "for 
sixty-four years or thereabouts." But in fact he 
was presented in 1690 and died in 1633, and vraa 
consequently vicar when the order of convocntion 
was mode for transcribing the old books. In 
Elton the register begins at tbe year 1660, yet it 
was "made in the yeare of our Lord 1508," as 
the heading informs us. At Eye and at Peakirk 
the copyists append their name's. At Castor the 
curate and duircbwardeDS testify to the correct- 
ness of the transcript. This is done in Latin, 
except once thus : " It agrveth with tha original], 
as witnesseth Edward Stokes, Curat," &c. And 
the following is the heading of the register-book 
at Marholm : — 

"Tbe Regr books belnngioK to the pish of Marhsm 
whcnn is recorded tho names of all tncb as have been 
maried baptized nnd buried sence the years of our lord 
cod one thomand Ave hundreth tbrrescore and five befbni 
the w''' tyme is not snvnsmes Kegistred to bft found 
tnity coppved oul in A" I)°> 1533 acrordine to the Qneen's 
Ms'^ Iniunction and statute." 

relerborongb, "W. D, SWEETIKO. 

The marvellously prolonged incumbency of 
Richard Samson, supposed to be rector of knos- 
sington in Leicestershire from 1558 to 1639, is 
readily explained, but not in the way suggested 
by the editorial note. It is amusing that thia 
hallucination of the last century should be revived 
just now, only a few months E^ter the appearance 
of an excellent essay on Fariak RegiiUr*, by Rob* 
Edmond Chester Watery Esq., B.A., of the Inner 
Temple (reprinted, in 8vo, 1870, with Additions 
and corrections, from The Some and Foreign Jit- 
view for April, 1803), This ossny is in many 
respectsmore complete than the History of Parith 
Mtgitlert 'by the Iste Mr. John S. Dum, of the 
second edition of which (1802) it vras originally 
written as a review. 

The importance and value of pariah registers 
seem to have been never better appreciated by 
the OeroT than at the close of the sizteanth cen- 
tuiy. TKer had then been kept for about seventy 
years, and tho old paper books were in many places 
decayed or wearing out. Provision was therefore ■ 
made that they should be transcribed, and on 
parchment instead of paper. Mr, Waters stetea 
that — 

" On October So, IfiBT, the clergy of Cinterbury in 
convoeation mad* a new ordinince rsspecting registers, 
formallyapprovedbythsqaeca under the great 

nees by noticing their very great utility 

), and lays down minnte regulation *~~ 

tbeir p 

preservation, wiiieb vera uftervrards 'embodied in 

tha 7l>th canon of L603 Tbe canon directed that 

every parish should provide itself wilh a pardiment book, 
and that (he entries from the old paper books should bB 
traoKribed therdn, each page being aathenticated by tbe 
■ignatnre of the miiilster and churehwanlens.'' 

4»8lVII. FfiB.*,*71.] 


ludieroDB notioD rupoctiDg the longevity of tbs clergy of 
tba nxteeoth oeDtorv, which at one time tbuad itrenuDoi 
Mteden aiiKingst ■nCiqaarian writer). (Cole'a MSS. xll. 
810.) Thns Dancumb. in hU Hiilory of Htrtfordikiri, 
ii. es, gnvelj ossertg that BaberC Barnes wu vicar of 
Bromyard dnring eighty-two years, an his Dsme appears 
doriDg tbe whole of Ibst perioil in the parochial regislera, 
and that one of hia cburcbwardeoa filled that office from 
1335 to leOO iacluidTe. Another iattance of this enp- 
poud longevity was a certain Mr. Simpson, vho was 
muKined to have enjoyed the living of Keybam in Leicea- 
Icnbiiv fbr ninety-tiro years, and to bave had the same 
charchwirdeaa for seventy years." 

In the SiUory of Zeicetterthire, iii. 080, iinder 
Eekme (*» the DBme of the chkpelry is there 
^It), will be found a loDf; extract from a MS. 
EtBAj on Pariah Kegisters, written t>T the Bev. 
George Ashbr, B.D., Premdent of St. John's Col- 
leee, Cambridge. Hr. Aahbj fell into this absurd 

miaapprehensioo, but it was detected hj Dr. Car- 
4«Ie « Bothley, and confuted by Lord Went- 
worth in the Oaieral Eoeamg Alt in 1786, and 

again b^ Mr. Bfaj, afterwards the historisn of 
Snrroj, in the second edition of his Toitr. 

JoHS QoDOH Nichols. 

Id the burial register of St Maiy Alderman- 
borj, ]liondoa, under date August 13, 1017, 
the following: — "Mr. Robert Harland, 

writing Irom the portion that precedes it, b.ut 
foRns part of the record. I am conviiuwd that 
whoever made tbe addition did so I)ecauH he 
bond that Hr. Harland had Ngned each page of 
the register as far back as its commencement in 
1538, exactly Mveatj-nine years, but without 
knowing, or taking tbe trouble to ascertain, that 
down to about 1600 tbe regiatet was the tran- 
script ordered in 16D8, and that it was the duty 
of the incumbent and churchwardens to attest the 
accuracy of the transcript. Perhaps this will 
explain the cam at KnoBsiugton. 

JoBKFH LEUtrsL Chbsteb. 


(4'" S. Ti. 396, 404, 663.) 

Hr. JiJJKSOH desires to see the old rbjme in 

tartauo. It has just been communicated to me bj 

kfiiend, who remembers hearingit in his youth: — 

** Some B° to chnrch to take a walk. 
Some there go to laugh and talk. 
Some there (^ tbeir faults to cover, 
Otben go to meet a lover. 
Some there go to sleep and nod. 
Bat few go Uitn lo worship God." 
i an tampt«d to add here some other quaint 

to the unseen Ii 

The lines which follow this anient gentleman 
used to attribute to a schoolmaster named Byrom, 
whose pupirhe had been in his younger days :— 
" He that bays land, boys many stones g 
He that buys fla^h, buys many tiones j 
He tbat bnys eggs, buya many shells i 
He that buys good ale, seldom huys aught else." 

(The last word pronounced as if written in 
gloaaic #&). Tbe writer of it is said to have been 
a liTing example of its truth. 

Barbers, trom Burchiello, whose utterly nnin- 
telligible -verses are models of classic Ittdian, 
down to the genial anthoroftbe " Barber's Shop," 
my good friend Mr. Richard Wright Procter, who 
is at once historian and laureate of the cunning 
shavers, have often been ffm» d'eiprit. Amongst 
them should bo classed old Jerry Dawson, whose 
shop was in the neighbourhood of Red Bnnk. He 
bit upon a plan for keeping his customers in 
good humour whilst they were waiting their turn 
to be shaved or polled. His device for their 
amusement was to write scraps ofpoehy, which 
he put up conspicuously in his shop. The parti- 
cular period of the year often frave him a subject 
for biB rhymes. Thus for Shrove Tuesday ho 

"Hake pancakes of the best of liatter, 
And drink good ale that minute after. 
And keep Shrove Tuesday like a mon. 
For hungry Lent ia coming OD." 

The old barber was, unfortunately for himself, 
no teetotaller, and ale was a feature in his Tersea, 
as may be seen by this on Easter: — 
" Eat Easter dumpHng with good spice, 
And drink |n<od ale both warm and nics ; 
Elat and dtink till you've got red faces. 
For you're not sure of seeing th' races." 
Easter be pronounced in the true Lancashiie 
fashion, whicn in glosaic notation would be 

Another rhyme which was a favourite with the 
Id gentleman is the following quunt reflection 
_a the relative importance of the lawyer, the phv- 
sidsn, and tbe clergyman. Tbe structure of toe 
Terse appears to show that it must have been 
written in the "golden days of goodQneen Bess" 
or soon after :— 

" Iaw, Physic, and Divinity, 
Being in'dispote, could not agree 
W'bidi of tbe throe should have the superiority. 
** Law pleads tw dotb preserre man's lands. 
And all tbdr goods from ravenoiu bands. 
Therefore claims he to bave the superiority. 
"The doctor neit, with redpea for health, ',..,-.,,1,, 
Which men do value above tbeir weatthK-^ t Jt JV 1 1 
Therefore claims he to have the superiorly. ^ 



[4*S.VII. Fbb.4.71. 

•■ Next ooDMi the print with &oe dewortt 
Wbo of men's bouIb lakea care and cnre, 
Tliercrore of light challeoge bath ha to IibtS tba 


•If men vonld keep the golden rale, 

They need not bs the Uwyei^s Ibol. 

If men would keep from exoeea and rioti. 

The; need not S-xd OD docCoia' diet. 

If men nould do what God dotll teach, 

They need not mind irbat persona pieaeU. 

But if men both knarea and Awt> irilt be. 

Why Ihoy may be oss-riddeo by alt thiee."' 
This reminda me of a grnva deliftte tbat once 
took place in a discuBMoa aodety which met in 
Mancheater about 1780, aa to which- vtm tba 
greatest benefactor to Booiety, the lawyer, the 
pb^ndnn, or the eoldier. ACter oil the proi and 
can* had been adduced the vote wee tslcen, and 
peaceful Manchaater, the rery homo of the " fair 
'wfaile-'wingpd peacemaker," Commerce, solenmlj 
dedded that ol tUe tliEce the greatest benefactor 

". . . . the nd-eoat bully in big boota 
That hides the march of men from OS." ' 

WiLEiiM E. A. AiOff. 
J^iuan Stieet, Strangaways. 

" Some go to charch to fetch a walk. 
Soma go to church to have a talk, 
Some go to church to meet ■ friend, 
Some go there an hoar to spend. 
Some go there to hear the oemi. 
Some go there to sleep in pews,. 
And yet, 'tie veiy etrange and odd) 
flow few s' tlwn to wonhip God." 
No doubt, as is tba case with sdl poimlar 
rhymes, there are man^ Toriations. WillLxiiIABD 
oblige me by Btating- if his Tersion is traditioual 
or takea &om a printed copjP 

Stbpoeit Jacxsoit. 

The follo-ning rersion has been mpplied to me 
from memory as having appeared in a Sniffolb 
newi^per early in the preaent centiuj ; — 
" Some go to church just fi>r a walk. 
Some go there to scoff and talk. 
Some go then to meet a Mend, 
Some go (here (hdr time to ^>end. 
Some go there lo see a lover, 
Some go there Ihcir faulls to carer. 
Some go there to doze and nod. 
Hut few go there to worebip God." 

W. D. SimmKO. 

[E. D. gives a similar TMsion to Mn. Swretikq's 

with the exception of substituliog " laugh " and " seek" 
tor " scolf" and ■■ »ea " in the secoud ami fllth lines. — Eu.'\ 


(4* S. V. 300, 472,' 613, MI, 607 : tL 121, 44t 


The reply of J. W. at p. 674 of the laat Tolume 
of " N. & Q." is in fact nearly an admission of all 
Uiat I har« been mwnlaiaing. "This^.nflerall" — 
Bubmiseion to t^e Holy See— "is the gist of the 
whole matter," is J. W.'a obsecration (p. 675). 
Undoubtedly 8o_ If the Archbishop of Ctoiter- 
buiy should establish an aasoiuatJon or order, for 
imrtBnce, of yisitors of the Proteatant sick in hia 
diocese, it would probably be felt indecent if Ilia 
Bishop of Natal Dr. Colanso, or Dr. Nonuan 
Mflcleod, or any other respectable Presbyterian 
minister, clamed a right to fill up any yacandes 
or to establidi a branch. But it niu*t be reeol- 
lected that ^e attsmpt has actually been made hj- 
the English association calling itself the Eag^isa 
Langue to obtain racognitioQ at Borne. The at- 
tempt failed, of course ; but an asaodatiiiB which 
did such a tbing is disqualified from speaking 
against Papal jurisdiction. I ba^ once more t» 
draw tiie attention of J. W. and bis fiiendB to th« 
letters of I&STOBiorB- and ScBniiTOB in tiie third 
volume of " N. & Q." 1863. So far &om wiidiinK 
to ignore the pretended restoratian of a so-called 
English Langue in France, I have already referred 
to tue answer made by Hinw&icus in that volume, 
and I beg^ now to suggest toJ. W. that he.shoolA 
reply to that able wnter, and to Sckdtatob, and 
also to two most interesting noteaby J. J.W. ia 
volume iv. pp. 190 and 212, who tJieregiyea-detaito 
of tbe prooeedingB at Bome. If any r^y to thoB» 
writers is possible, let it be made at onca>. In tlia 
maut time I have no doubt, aa I said, that most 
thinldng parsons will hesitate to aoeept X W.'a 
authority. The whole tbing may be uluatratod^ 
but not exhausted, by a short, not entirely ima- 
ginary, qnlogue. 

Mr. St; John, a gsnOemnn of aneiaBt descuit, 
with large family connection in Europe, waS( th 
long time ago, attacked by a set of burglars,, de- 
prived of all his houses and lands, and had to nut 
lor bis life to bis kinnnen abroad. The law o£ 
bis own coimtry would not help him, for the 
rogues had bribed the Bench, and the King took 
his share. So, as they bad no use for churches, 
they^ blew up and pulled down all that belonged 
to him, took the houses and money, eat, drtmk, 
and were merry. And it must be owned that, 
with these and Other little pickings, they had a 
very fine time of it. But not long (tfo the ie- 
BCendant of the Mr. St. John who bad been 
driven ioto exile came back tO' England; not 
with the least idea of Tecovettog any stolen pro- 
perty, but merely to settle himself, as well as he 
could, in the ootmtjy of hia fathers, aa Mr. St. 
John of SL John. One day, walking about his 
buunesa in London, he meets en exseedlngly fine 

*8,Tn. FxB.i.Tl.] 



rilemnn, 'Who imiaBdiately stops, pats Btm on 
ifaouMer. and eaye, "Old fellow, very gM to 
see jou. Here we are." Mr. St. Johii, perh&pa 
prejudiced in favour of knowing your friends, 
reqneste to be informed of tbe Tmrne at hie soci- 
tibn bat nnexpected mterlocutor. " Ob," Raj's 
the Btrmger, " aont you know P I'm St John of 
St Jobntoo ; took the name, you know. Second 
nrftrain in the Timet, dont yon see, deed poll, 
and an that; I, and dl the family. We ftre one 
cuuceni now." Hr. St. John expieeses his amaze- 
ment. He was not awwre that there was any 
existing brandi of his family in Eagtend besides 
hia own. "CHi, yes," says the Stranger; " we 
are a real bnmdh; we hnre got the name, and 
faftTe token the arms, and are always known as 
St Johns, and have set up new houses, and, what 
I am son yon wiB like bejt, we have made a 
pedigree, don't yon linow, and there we are all in 
It, as dasr as possible. You and all your foreign 
connexion are there, side by side with us." 
Upon this Hj. St John au^^ts thnt the Stranger 
ahoi^d accompany him to the Hera]da' College, 
that these statements may be authenticated. 
"Haralda' College P Pooh I old almanarfiB. Yon 
can gfo if yon like, not I, We don't mind Sir 
Gorgeona Tintach, nor the Pope, nor anybody 
elae. Depend uptm it, my dear feltow, if s only a 
matter of Opinion. Yon call yourself St. John, 
10 do we. no one here knows any diJFerence ; 
and as we have taken the name we shall stick to 
H. Qoodbye. BememlieT me to all oui kinsfolk 

It Tomaina io he seen whnt Opinion will do for 
tiie new Mr. St John. 

"Vb vobia qni edificatla monumcnta ProphetArum : 
pttm aulem T«Btri occicleruDt illoa." 

D. P. 
BCosrts "LtiSgt, Mslvem WcIIb. 

I have read with great interest the diacus^on 
which has been goiag on for some time about this 
subject in "N. & Q." and also in the Spcdatoj-— 
a diacuHtun which was carried on with a courtesy 
on pne side that made the absence of it on the 
other rather too conspicuous. The suggestion of 
HoinrKCutus in Ro. 157 seems to me deserving 
of the highest consideration, end well worthy the 
attention of the conflicting parties. Tiie English 
lisgne have at all events the credit of fulfllling 
to the best of 'its ability the duties of the order, 
and not merely forming part of a court pageant 
(not very muclt respectea), as I have seen the 
" Maltheser IRitter in their scarlet coats in 
Konicb. I woiild offer one more suggestion : 
&e Queen is sovereign of ISalta; what if she 
were to assume the protectorate of the English 
laa^e F the knights would then at court wear 
fiteir crosses (1 believe they bare every right to 
do to now); fhe order would, have a publicly 

recognised status, which must tend to its advan- 
ti^; and as the knights would claim no prece- 
dence more than the wearers of an ordinBry war 
medal, while the rules under which alone -Qm 
order can be conferred^ would efFectuaJly prevent 
any but gentlenieo belonging to it, the court 
drele womd at all events lose nothing by thdr 
presence. The privilege might be confined to tho 
"Ohevaliera of Justice." Otwbk, 

Porth yrAur, CaniBrvon. 

(J'" S. vi. 626.) 

Ben Fran^cos d'Almeyda, the firit viceroy ef 
PortugUHse India, was appointed governor t^ the 
Indies in 1505. He sailed from Belem in March 
of that year, wid reoohed the coasts of Portugueaa 
India in the month of October. In 1S08, after 
the defeat of the Portugaese forces in a naval 
engagement before Daboul, Don Alfonso d'Albu- 
queraue arrived in India to supersede Almeydik 
The latter, burning to avenge the loss of his vm. 
in the previously named naval engagement, re- 
fused to yield up his authoritv until he had chaa- 
tised the infideb. After in&icting a summary 
retribution <at the inhabitants of Daboul, he en- 
connterad bis enemies at sea, opposite the island 
of Diu, and con^ete^ destroyed titeir fiaet. Is 
November, 1609, the viotor of Diu finally quitted 
the shores on which hie nunebad becomeaterror 
and his veagoanoe a proverb. Don Pranjois d'Al- ■ 
mm<k perished in March, 1610, by the hand of ft 
Caffre at the Cape of Good Hope. 

The " barbarotts massacre " Mk. Elem refers 
to Tcuc^ be that which was conducted by order cf 
Alm^da at DebouL His proceediuge tberOB 
have been thus described : — 

" AloHirdK poutively it(aa» 
Dnlil be riionld bare avenged 
<l«atrDCtion of (be boOil* fleet. Being suppoi 

dealh I 

isobedienee to -tbc rovul mandato by several leadin, 
ofRcere, he refmcd lo allow Albunnerque even to tak 
part in the iottDdcd expedition (agunst Daboul).'' 
There, we are told— 

"once on tbotr, by the order of tlie merciless victor, s 


, The 

o the 

with blood, and the diatmcted i 

cii«B of the neiRhUourinE monntmnB. This diagMCcTal 
«»Tie had a roilaUe conclusion ; for Almeyds, onatds 
to withdraw bis tnaope from their horrible employment, 
<MUieA the town to be set on fire. The flames extended 
rapidly over the light timber roofe, and after reflacing 
the Btately ci(v to a pile of smoking wood -and aahce, 
feached the harbour. The Tioliye shippiag w«« d&- 
stroj-ed ; the Portugnese vewels wltb dtfficullf tteaptO, 
and proceeded to tbe (iutf of Cambay." 

He £11^ up fhe measnie of hie bnrbaiiliea bf 
causing his priBDners to be shut up in lito pnis 
veaaels and burnt with them. 

ihappy I 

It of that cr 





If the maaaacie occurred about the ;ear 
1611, Don Alfonso d' Albuquerque waa then the 
Portuguese soTemor-geDeral of locUa. It there- 
fore mi^ht have been in connectiou with the 
Bcquieition of Goa. The city was taken bj sur- 
prise in the earlT part of ISIO, recaptured a few 
months later by Yusnf Adil Shah in nerson, and 
finally conquered by Albuquerque at uie close of 
the same year. The contest was prolouged and 
aanguinan', and the after-slaughter must have 
been temflc, since, according to Sousa, " not one 
Moor was left alive in the island." (Port^ueit 
Atia, i. 172.^ The Hindoos were treated Teiy 
difierently; lor Albuquerque confirmed them in 
their posaenions, and promoted the intermarriage 
of their women with the Portuguese br band- 
some dowries, at the same time proving his con- 
fidence in hia new subjects by emploving them 
in both dxil and military capacities. Albuquerque 
died at Goa, December 13, 1515. 

N,B. ThedesignBtion"Moors"BeemafrequentIy 
applied to Arabian and African Mohammedans, in 
contradistinction to Moguls and Patans. Bouaa 
speaks of them as "inhabitinr from Choul (in 
the Concan) to Cape Comorin. The honour of 
the discover; of the Cape route to India does not, 
I Tenture to submit, belong to Vasco da Gama. 
It was Bartolomao I>iaz, ten years before Vasco 
da Oama'e voyage to India, who passed the Cape 
without knowing it, and despite the murmnra of 
his crew, proceeded as far as the mouth of the 
Great Fish River. Compelled most unwillingly 
to return, he now first discovered the sonthera 
headland of the African continent; and reaching 
it in stormy weather, he bestowed on it the 
designation of " Cabo Tomientoso." Diai re- 
turned to Lisbon in the December of 1487, after a 
Toyage of little more than sixteen months. The 
ivay to India was now open. In 1497 Elmanuel, 
the king of Portugal, equip{>ed a fleet of four 
ships for the purpose of rAching India by a pas- 
sage round the Cape, and gave the commana of 
the expedition to Vasco da Qama. The expedition 
euled from the mouth of the Tagus on July 8, 
1407, having in aUiaO men on board. It doubled 
the Cape on November SO, and coasting the 
eastern sea-board of Africa as far north as Me- 
linda (1st. 3° S.}, it sailed under the guidance of 
a native pilot for the shores of India. The voy- 
age from Melinda to the Malabar coast occupied 
twenty-three days; and the tieet anchored before 
the dty of Calicut on May 20, 1498. Two years 
and nearly two months elansd between the date 
of Da Qama's departure and his return to Lisbon. 
The Beeond Porhiguose fleet to the Indies was 
de^lcbed in the year succeeding his return, 
nnaer the oommand of Alvares Cabral. 



(4"- 8. vi. 477.) 
A query having appeared in your Nnmber of 
December 8 last respecting a pur of slirraps seen 
some years ago in the possession of the - BeTi 
James Steuart Blacker, lector of Kesdy, county 
Armsgh, it maybe interesting to state that these 
relics, along with many others appertaining to 
that eventful period, at« sdU at Carrickblacker, 
the seat of the BUcker family, in the county 
Armagh, near I'ortadown. The reverend gentlfr- 
msn was family executor at the time adverted to, 
and thus was in possession of the hdrlooms, and 
these amongst them. 

The stirrups, however, bear evidence in them- 
selves of an earlier'date than the Boyne battle 
(1600), and as being the property of an earlier 
king than William ILL, viz. Charles I. ; for on 
the interior of the upper part, where the leather 
was looped on, is plamly marked, dotted or in- 
scribed, a royal crown, with the cypher C. R. and 
the date 1626 beneath. They stand eight inches 
in height, with a breadthof five-and-a-half inches 
at the swell for the foot. On the outer sides a 
Bcallop-ahell pattern is inscribed. The whola 
accoutrement bears a darkbronte colour enlivened 
with gold welded into the parts where the shells 
occur, or are marked by incised lines. That they 
belonged to Charles L, however, is no reason that 
they snould not have been worn by William IIL, 
his relative and descendant. The saddle-cloth is 
also at Carrickblacker, a gorgeous affair of crimson 
velvet, superbly embroidered in gold, with holster 
trimmings complete. The saddle itself is said to 
be in the posseseson of the Marquis of Drogheda, 
and without any stirrups or other paraphernalia; 
How they became separated is not very clear, but 
probably in the scramble of attached attendanta 
desirous to secure memorials of such historic 
scenes and personages. Most of those at Carrick- 
blacker came from an ancestor, Qeneral Frederic 
Hamilton, side-de-comp to King William III., 
with estates in llpperary, Londonderry, and other 
counties. He was originally of Milbum, in 
Lanarkshire, and called a property near Colenuna 
Milbum after it. He is mentioned by Captain 
Parker as his chief patron in bis interesting and 
now scarce record of the Irish conflicts at that 
period, and also the Marlborough wars in Queen 
Anne's time. 

Amongst other items traceable to this source, 
kept at Carrickblacker, are King William IIL's 
gloves, rather rough chamois leather gauntlets, 
ornamented with bWk satin and gold embroidery 
trimmings; the original MS. draft of the brass 
money proclamation, with William IIL's signa- 
ture, dated July 10, 1690. " Given at our camp 
at Finghu." N3. Then is no mention of 

A^S. Til. Feb. 4, 71.] 



" vood«D ehoea," but ipecimeiu of the bnse coinaga 
ue hung ID chiuna lound tha frame. Tha fint 
pattut toSirThomoa, afterffards Lord Con yugabj, 
whc bound up King William's arm when wounded 
at tie Bojne. The handkerchief itself U said to 
be b tbe posaesaion of the Earl of EaBex, a 
deacmdant : also a bandsome massive cruet-atand, 
jpKMtted bj the lung. Lord Eaaes preaentad 
tha muetaid-pot to the present Earl of Enniakil- 
len ; h is the aixe of a amall lankanl, containing 
fuUj a pint, and when filled with good liquor, 
muat be drained to the glorious memorj without 
drawing breath, in order to obtain " the freedom 
of Fbroice Court." 

But to eoatiDDe tbe list of hbtoric coriouties 
at Garriokblacker. There ia tbe celebrated Derrj 
deed, with all the rignatorea and seals of the 
owners of propertj deetcojed in tha aiege of 
1686-9, dauuing compensation from the British 
Oovemment — we are sorry to sa^ yainl^ and 
without aflect. The uamaa of fiumliea still em- 
itting and possesHng property ate eaal j traceable. 
Stone balla fired at Derry when meUl was ex- 

*" ' K Bcrap of the flagof the Inniakilling 

it the Boyne; a lai^ remnant ia adll at 
dllcD or Florence Court A chair of oak made 
from the platform on top of the cathedral tower 
of Derry, on which cannon was mounted and fired 
during ^e siege. Tha old form of the cathedral 
ia carved, as awo the walla in relief on tha back. 
CoL Hitchelbum'a aaddle, used in a eortie at the 
aiege befbra thay ate their horses. Two rapien, 
one of them used by Qeneral Hamilton at tha 
Boyne, and the other bv Wm. Blacker at Derry 
and the Boyne. The long-ehotted gun of the 
Diamond fight ; the gong of Ohumee ; and the 
laat added articles to this curious collection, vit. 

not presented because the Dnke of Newcastle 
■would not allow H.R.H. to land ; and laatly, the 
Confederate flag of the celebrated privateer the 
Shenandoah, which is said to hare done more 
destruction and mischief than the much-abused 

The walls of Carrick blacker are hong with some 
interesting historio portraits of the WiUiamtte 
period. Besides the well-known ones of the King 
and Queen Haty, by Eneller, are those of Duke 
Sehemberg and Da Qinkle, Earl of Athlone ; a 
contemporary picture of the mege of Derry. by 
Wyke; General Hamilton, Ooremor Walker, 
£c. &0. But, quite apart from this period so 
largely illustrated, there ia a very remarkable 
portrait that would take a dissertation to itself — 
that of Sr Wm. Wallace, tbe celebrated defender 
of Scotland. It waa brought over more than three 
hundred yeare ago by a family of that name, and 
came to tha present proprietor of Carrickblacker 
with the remnant oi a amall proper^ bam his 

grandmother, who had received it in the same 
way from her grandmother, the last of that family 
of the name. It is not in oil-colours, but in 
fresco varnished and iDgeniously removed to can- 
vass. In individuality and grandeur of character 
it quite throws into shade the usual conventional 
and commonplace portraits of this hero, Ahon. 

OtD Sahsowh Castle, Isle of Wight (4* S. 
vi. 5C0.)— Lord Conway was made Captain of tha 
Isle of Wight, Dec. 8, 1024; Lord Weaton (sub- 
sequently Earl of Portland) succeeded him, Feb. 
8, I63I. The authority for these statements is 
Dugdale's Saronagt, where a reference ia given to 
the Patent Rolla, 22 Jac. I., part 16, and Car. I., 
part 0, respecUvely. Portbiud died in March, 
1036, and Isee by a letter of F. Brooke of April 
11 (State Papers, Charles I., vol cdxxzvi.), tbal 
his eldest sou Jerome, second Earl of Portland, 
was hia successor. O. 

MorNT CALViRT (l" S. vi. 642 ; viL 62.) — I 
am competent to give no opinion as to whether 
Calvary was a mountain or not, but I am quite 
sure that Sozomen does nol aay it was, as atated 
by Mb. Alex. B. M'U&ieoB, To establish this 
point the Editor, I trust, will permit me to give 
the passage in the original. The reference ia 
right The words are: — 

Ql fif wi\v rqr innKiitiar ti^omi *EAAqMi, fri 

varrii imiiAi, S«i toXX^ X^I""' ''*' '^'* rinar im- 
rlapv^ay, koI fit Eif» tlyvfai Bf^irtftr trwifxfirra, tit 
■ol nr ^olvtrai. npiAoMrrtl U i>/pi{ aivra tit T^l 

Miif tV tiifiHuui imirrpnaar .* nol 'Afpoltrqi «i>' 

For Uw Graaki. striTiDg to tbelt utmoet, bj means or 
perMCation, to gxliDgnUb tbe chnrdi In its lobiicj, con. 
eealed that place under a haga maand of earth, and, as 
LOW appeals, raised (he ground lo a greater height than 
it wu before. Aad baring drawn a fence roand the 
entire aite of the nvurrecCloD. and ■ the place of a skall ' 
(Calvary), they arranged the anrTaM^ aad erected upon it 
a temple to Tenoa, in which ttaej placed her itatoe. 

Not a word, as Mr. M'Obisob will see, of aay 
motmtain, or of the slightest acclivity. The very 
opposite ; for prior to these operations the aurfaca 
was Imctr (Sa6^tpiiy) than it was after. So from 
this account the natural inference muat be, that 
the mount was not real but arti/icial. Homer 
uses the kindred word aopiwr for the top of a 
mountain— Oix^iiToia tofiirmr (11. a. 167)— whence 
it is not improbable that this may have given rise 
to the notion of Calvary being a mount. There ia 

• By order of the Emperor Hadrian towarda the latur 
end of hii raign — soniewhere atiODt *.o. 188— irhen lie 
built Iba Roman city of ^lia CapUoUna on the fo 


[♦^S-VII. Fbb.4,71. 

no anthotitf for it in any of tbe wntiags of tbe 
New Testament at tbe eiirlieT fathers. As to the 
teatimoDj of St. Cyril, it is valuelea*. He lived 
and wrote long aftei tbe trauABction lelated bp 

I mi^ be permitted to mention that I have 

? noted from Satding, the best edition of the 
Ireek ecclesiastical historiana. 

Eduukii Tew, M.A. 

GoD-wnt SwiPi (4» a T. 66, 18*, 159, 211, 
306, 410.)— Mr. SwiTTB'a family pedigree VMf 
be quite -correct, but no one who is fanuliar 'wiui 

Sligrees "certified " (not "verified '") as " taken 
m the records of hia offioe" under the iainA 
and seal of office of Sir William Betham, would 
think of pladng implicit reliance on them because 
they were so " certified." I regret to say that I 
know pedigroee "-which in ewne very important 
reepecte ore pore inventions, and were, notwith- 
standing; proofs to the contrary in bis office, so 
certified. In one instaoce the very arms recorded 
ware altered without any reason whAtever. These 
are grave charges, bat unfortunately they are 
true. If the late Ur. Godwin Swift was " He 
jure Vifconnt OarliDgford," bow did it happen 
that his right waa never proved before the Com- 
mittee of Privileges P It le really preooateroue to 
c^ a mere pretender to an extinct title the nght- 
ful peer because, without a Bhudow of right, lie 
pertinadouBly assumed and claimed the trUe. 

T. 8. TS.. 

DBsanrBkvm ov Bishop Bebbll {4* S. v. Sll' 
691 ; vi. 188.)— Isabella BedeU, daughter of the 
Rev. "Williani Bedell, was twice married. By her 
first hnaband, Daniel French, she had a daughter, 
Eleanor French, who married John Stanford, Esq. 
of 0am, county Cavan (bom 1680, entered Trin, 
Coll-BukNov. 37,1701). She married, aecondly, 
Tuke Stanford (who died in 1733), hia firet wife. 
Tuke Stanford married, eecoodly, Anne Heccle- 
field, and by her bad (with other isaue) John, 
who married Eleanor French (m above.) Hie 
bead master of fieanmaris Grammar School is tbe 
Bev. William BedeU Btnnford, M.A., of BaUiol 
College, Oxon,great-great>gi«ndson of John Stan- 
ford and Eleanor Frencb. Y. S. il. 

"Dun" A9 A LocAi, Trkfii (4"" S. vi. 153, 
238, 656.)— There is no reason to suppose that 
the Celtic ddH is e^rmotoncally connected with 
toicn, A.-S. Ian. The literal meaning of the Utter 
is an " enclosed place," from tynan, to encloee ; 
whereoa dim is properly a hDl, and may be derived 

. iu.T.. \j. ivunjiDd HMja LUB ruoL ui auii is tue 

Knit dutid, but it would 1m quite u rsasenable 
arive it from the Chinese tmt, a " hillock." 
E. S. Chabitook. 

RioBAVti) Tbbeiok, Bihhop of Lofuott 1734- 
1777 (4'" S. vi. 6«9.)— He wae the eldest soi ot 
Samuel Terrick, rector of W^eldrake, and esnoo- 
rendentiai^ of Y-orit, by Ann, widow ofRathiniel 
ArlnA, Esq., of Knedlington, county Tork, and 
daughter of John Gibson, Esq. of Welburn, in 
die same connty. He waa naptiaed in York 
MniBter July 20^ 1710. His vrife waa TAitba, 
daaghter of William Stwnfortb, rector of fymon-. 
bnrne, county Northumberland (eldflot son of Di, 
William Stainforth, canon of York), 'byJ'taBceB, 
flenghter of George Prackett, Esq., recorder tk 


The Moanl, York. 

The arma of Tenick, as quartered on Lord 
Harrowliy's banner in St. George's Chapel, are 
those of the Tyrwhit family, with the addition of 
a plain bordure argent. Eduditd M. Botlk. 

Rock Wood, Torqoay. 

Br. Terrick ia one of those prelates of wliom 
Dean >ni"»(i|i, in Lis AsmaU of &. I'taiTs, .has 
written : — 

" There iras then ■ rapd saecCHiDa «f decent prdatu^ 
who no doubt djacban^ tbeir hinclioDt with quiet 
dignity, and lived tbetr blameleaa Utm in respect and in 

The following passage, extracted from Addit. 
M3S. |;5847, p. 404) in the Brit. Museum, in which 
the bishop figures, may interest the raadeia cf 
"N. &Q/' — 

pole) paid Tor an hour one Sundn'aneniaao, while I we* 
with biiD, about ten yean ago. it was when tbe rnnut 
Bl^op of LoudoD waa Bishop or PcterboTDDgh and tfam 
minister of Twiokenbani. The viirit was to a Jew, whore 
■nd wme Diwantcn. I reuMmber not tbe dbdim. but 
this I remember because it aCrnck me. The bisbop poa- 
albly mijtlit have asBumed some airg which Mr. TValpola 
might think aid not become one wlio waa a lord only by 
aoddeut, and not bv birtb or creation. In oidn, tbere- 
ff«e, to Iowa- and hasble tbe )ir)de aC Out nnlata, who 
liaa enoogh of it about bim, I remembar Mr, Walpcde told 
me, onbia retDtn, for Ittidnot attend him, that be called 
bim ftequently Mr. and Dr. Terrick, in order (o mor- 
tify bim. Snrelv this waa not ripbt or proper. The tawi 
of tbe land and custom unalterable have fixed Mdi and 
snoh titles to sucb and anob digDitiea and office*; and 
whoever diaregaida tham, acts like a olown «nd impro- 
periy. I pmnme no one loves titles better than bimsell^ 
as will be evident to any one who looks over the Dttcrip- 
tim of the niln of Strmfbeny lliU, Where ia a most 
falsome enumerstion, on every oocasion, af tie meat 
minnte titles of all the Walpole family and Its moat dis- 
tant alliances. It would have been tbougbt coarae un- 
bred hehavionr in Bishop Tenick to have addressed Lai^ 
Walpole without the tide of Ladrsbip. To judge impar- 
tiallf therefore, to omit Eiving the due title to a bidiop 
canaot be jaatiSed in any light." 

RF. T. 

Teri (S* S.^wMim; 4" S. vl461 ; vii. 22.)— 
A note signed with a ilaod induces me to eay a 
word or two on thia subject. 

Tlie whole queation was debated between Ub. 




WooDWAED aod mjaelf in coiMeq.ueiice of ftqueiy. 
by Ma, Datibmh, which apmaw on p. D& of 
voLix. in the third seiiw o£"^W. & Q." JTj reply 
to at p. 400. Mb. WooDWiiED'a at p. 478 of that 
Toltme. The remaiaiug repliea by BIr. Woqd- 
"W-ixt and mnelfmll be found in voL xj., Jao. — 
June, 1867. Mb. Woodwabd stated his case vith 
great force ; I did my beat to state mine. I have 
not ctanfted my opinion; I hare no reason to 
aup^oK that Mr Woobwabi) hu changed hie. 
I think it might save " Hand " aotne trouble if he 
would leikd botli udes at the leferences which 1 
have supplied. It would be a waate of his time 
to go over tha same around, unlaw be can give 
wme new Uct^ on, aitfier Tiew, ot on both, 


StauiM L(ids*.llalram WdU. 

WiBSiMB or iNPiirre {4* S. v. 48ft)— A bill 
was filed in ebancOTy In ftrfand, May Sff, 1679, 
V Ed*tBd VilliBni, Esq., aoi Catherine his wife 
(the only child and heir of John Fitigerold, Esq., 
rf t*B Decies^'co. Wsterford), Rgainst Biohsd 
Barl of Tyrone, nnele of Mre-VaHera. The hill 
states that Xt. and Mrs. Tilliers had been mar^ 
ried in the pnc«Hng monft of Wiuch. The eart 
answered the bill, and stated that he admitted 
the plaintiffl) were manied as stated— 

"dt facia udmnidt jun, fbr on the 9lh Mir,,!!;?!), the 
plumtff Cstherfna was ]«wfiilly married, 'by Gilbert 
Arthbiahop of Cintetbory, to John Poim', thwi -E«qui«,' 
and now 'ViKtraat Detdee,' the ddm aan vaA hetr- 
^^areatot tbu defkndoot'. tbn Mnfftluii abeiU Iu^h 
jnn old, ead John Powet beiag about j»n oc abeoA 
ajAt yean aid. That ah* cohabited witti Jolio Power, 
iiibed her name and took her place as YiMouatea 
imjl alM Stole away daodCBtitiely out of ttM 
Uie Baj'l of Angleny, gDndfathar ofVIwonot 

I hare no note of tbe decre» in Hiiesuit, but I 
presume the second marriage was hrid good, and 
of anuae the former one iuvalid : for I see in the 
Peerage that by Mr. Villiera (Brigadier- General 
the aaa. Bdward Tilliei^ elder son and heir- 
Wpaient of Geoi^, fourth Yiscount Graudison) 
Catherine had (with other iwae) JtAin, fifdt 
viscotint^ cnated Earl of GnndiMn. Y. S. M. 

LocA£ TonuTAiCKEris (4"* S. yi. 438, 66D.) — 
To the list must be added Smithfield, by the- 
dtiiene on Snhirday afternoons. 

Jaues GmiBBi:, 

51, HIU Street. Fedtham, 3.E. 

Shard or. ^axh (4* S. vi. 324, S87, SSL)— 
U some parts of tha conntry, to my own peraanal 
knowledge, Aard or aAhth ie used as a tenn deaig- 
Dating cow-dung only. In tbe north-east district 
of Aberdeenshire, my native ia>unty,.it la one of 
tile most familiar provincialisms among the aiiTi- 
cultural population ; but it is never em[doyea to 
dtngnate hoiesi, sheep, pg, or, in fact, any kind 
at dung sttve that of cows, oxen, &c. An indi- 

vidual who has donned any very smart or gay 
article □£ apparel is often addressed in a haotenng 
way, thus: •' You cast a dash, at a distance, like 
Aam on a len rig (ridge)." A, Paxerbom. 

Baraeley, Torks, 

The " vulenr word " at which Stspkbh Jaceboit 
hints in a foot-note u much more likely to be 
connected with «Aoot. In Lineelnehiie' a cow 
with dianhcea is said to be "shoeting." Cow- 
aAorda ate here called ^'caeaons" (castings) { and 
"A primrose in a cseson" is a: proverb anawmng 
to " A jewel of gold in a swine a snout." In Mr. 
Peacock's Bolph Skirtaugh we find, a former's 
sens stacking (UHCfw fbr winter fuel, in. accordance 
with an old proTerb reacting fuel and soap, 
wh&h, a»HiL JACKSoiraaj^ " I oan only bint at." 
J. T. F. 

Pabodito (4''' S. TL 476; riL 16.)— I do not 
know if the Book of Ballada, edited by Bon 
Qnultier, published bj Orrft Uo., Id46, w«uld 
nut W. G-. ft p. p. 

There wa» a eapiW pwody on Colraidge'a 
ChntbAil puhliebed' about tfairiy-Sve yean ag» 
in the Bneijebmadia ^ Atieethle and Wit. It 
commenced, I think, an I write entirely from me- 
mory, wilh — 

" Tis ten o'clock by the eaetle clock," Ste. 

"-TUUn o'cloek by tbahaion.'a dock," Jkf. 
Who was the author ? A. J. DimxiH, 

The PAT^oirmic "-mrr" iw NmtTH-EHSUSB 
Pu.ce-Name9 (4"' S. V. &59j vi. 61, 120, 308, 
418, SCO, STO.)— I think tin fidlowing instance,. 
taken iiram deeds of tha reign of Edwaid III. 
relating to the same fkmily and snbjeot, go &{ to 
prove tbe correctness of Mb. ATKuraoH a state- 
ment " that the stroke over the vuwel denoting 
the omission of n is often omitted by old scribes, 
and not tbe least frequently in namea iuTolving- 
tile element -tny." A name is thus written vari- 
ously: "de Flomyngwold, de Homingwold, de 
Homin^wold sivo llomiwold, de Homiwold." 
Thflie IS no gtroke to deodte the omieeion of tho 
n OP I/, although the nnme ie materially altered, 
T. C. G. H. 

"His owv opiniok wab ku law" (i'" S. id. 
271, 355, 562.)— With great respect for Dr. Tait 
Ravaoe, whose papers have always interest fbr 
me, I submit that it ie widely different to say of a 

Eerson that his own opiniua ie hie law, and that 
e "is a law unto himself." As I interpret the 
expreesionc, the former conveys censure, Ihe lattei 
commendalion. The quotation from Juvenal,* as 

a nxonious hiuhaad. Thj*, 

*Jav.Ti.£n. TtnUngBageoTaidl-willfdin 
•cennn to her nuaillantniaiu nxonious hiuhaad 
freai the Anth^ogif, has eoKia ruamblaeaa ; -^-y . 

rurl) 7ip oi^Sif dta *A.)* V A<itA*i^C)C)Q IC 
A womm'i wit U bonodad by her wUL O 



[4'»S.Tn. FeB.4,71. 

applied to thoae from Sbakespenre nod Evagriui, 
is Ktminbly to the point ; not ao that from the 
Elhiet. Ab b psrallel to this one, I think, might 

fairly be given Komaiis ii, 14 ; — 

cErit ti6iu>r nil tx""'!/ i^ifHi tlai njfioi " 

Edmund Tew, M.A. 

P.S. In the character of the Emperor MauriciuB, 

as given bj Evagriua (lib. ti. i.), we hsTe a 

splendid example of the tynixerlii := the num who 

is " a law mito himaelf." He saya, — 

'EirroiSajLK ti Koahv d^ic ir t^ mifiari, i\Xi yip jtal 

ngA abroKpirvp ivrttt ytrifttvojf T^jr filf Aj^AsKpaTrfar 
tAv waSar 4k t^i olielat iitrtiKirnri •^v^t ' ipurroitpo- 
Ttiar a iv Toh iaurav \ojur/ioi% ■anumro'd^rcir, {*»' 
ifftT^s S.yatLHa laurbii vaftirxrrc, vf))t (il^tfff» /mroi- 

Hmceforth he made It bis boslDMi not oalj to adorn 
YAa penoa, bat more eBpeoullj bis mind, vlth regal di<- 
nltiea. For he alose, of all nho hid yet worn the purple, 
Btrore rigorooslv to rule himself; «nd as became hi» liigb 
position, wbile bRaisbiog from hii mind all evil iffeo- 
tioDB, to Bcbool himself in every virtne, and thai to h«- 
eome a liviBg ezamide for the Imitation of hia sulyects. 

AuBOBA BoBBALia (4* S. Ti. 406.)— The fol- 
lowing narration occurs among "Prodigies in the 
HeaTens," in a work entitled ; — 

"Mirabilia Anans Secondusi or, a Second Year of 
Prodigies; being a true and impartial Collection of many 
slisnge Siongs and AFFAHtTions irhich have tbie lost 
yeiir been seen in tbe Heavens, and in the £arth, and in 
the Wfllers," 4to, Printed in the Tear 166S. 
« Tht HtattHt all on Fire. 

» At Lewes in SuBsex, Jane 16, 1ES1, abont three of the 
clock In tbe morning divers persons observing a more than 
ordiBsrv light, being then in their beds, preaenlly ro«e; 
and looking out, they perceived the whole visible hemi- 
sphere on every aide to be aa it were on fire, tbe colour 
whereof eeemed to be more inclining to a blood-rad than 
the ordinary flame colonr. 

"At tbe same time also, at a (own called Bawcomb, 
alraat twelve or fourteen milea from Lewes, a person of 

Snality, being in bed, perceived so creat a light ia his 
liamber that he verily thought his bama and out- 
hODeee had been on Are; but when he arose and looked 
forth, he aaw, as he conceived, the heavens on fire, in tbe 
same dreadful manner as la before eipressod. This Is 
attested l)y eye-witnesses In both places, and a thing ft»- 
qoently and commooljr spoken of In those parts." 

WnxiAM Bates. 

LoED BrBOH's "EifOLiBH Bards," etc. (4"' S. 
vi. 368, 449, 460, 654; vii. 23.) -I am quite 
cognizant of the sentence quoted by Mb. J. A. 
PiCTOH, but it does not alter my opinion of Mont- 
gomery a WoHderer of Smizerland, and of the 
ws^ce of the Edmbwgh reviewer'a critiqae. 
Byron's dMa on poeta are of small value. He 
found tbe Faery Quern of Spenser very dull. Ho 
eaid to Leigh Hunt, " Take him away I I find 
nothing in lim." Thia was aaid on returning to 

Hnnt that immortal allegory. In one of Byron's 
note.s to 2>o» Juan we find " Cowpsr was an 
amiable man, but na poet." Byron blew hot oi 
cold, aa it auited hia bumour. The first edition 
of Simini was " a retUty good poem." Afterwards 
he discovered that "never were ao many fine 
thinra spoilt as in Simini; " and, aa a climax, he 
could write — 

"O Gemini 1 

What a nimlni pimint 

Story of Riminf!" 

Many of Byron's " neat guna " are now held 
in slignt esteem, while other writers that he 
bespattered with acurrility, particularly Coleridge, 
Wordsworth, and Sonthey, have risen in public 
estimation. " Stupid " Qrahame, too, is an ia- 
atance of the latter class. I know no modem 
poem more truly beautiful than The SabbatA. 
It well merits the pruaes bestowed upon it bj 
the late Professor Wilson. It is very popular ia 

Mb. Picion says 7%« C^turch and Warmiitff- 
pan " was not a tract" I can merely aay that 
the onl^ copy I .ever saw was an 8to painphlet. 
It was m the haikdaof a bookseller of the "Row," 
who has retired from busiaeas. I called it a 
trad becauae it had hardly pagea enough to be 
dignified with the name of pamphlet. Perbws 
my tract was Mb. PKnoK'e " BurreptitJoua edi- 
tion " : I believe it was so. 

I beg to assure Mb. Pictor that I am a Tery 
great admirer of " tbe real KCoutgomery," na 
Wilson once called him ; but my admiration of 
Tht World be/ore the Ihod and The PeUean 
Iilmtd does not blind me to the imperfections of 
the Wanderer. I saw them long before I knew 
Switzerland, and with my present acquaintance 
with Helvetia I see still more the puerile absur- 
dities of Montgomery's " wandeiings." 

Jakbb Hbhbt Bixon. 


PUKHINO AND jBSrDta ON NaUBS (i'^ S. TI. 364, 

681.)— CaiEF Ebuixb has spoilt the puns which 
be admires by revernng the apeakers. Sit Wil- 
liam Dawes, Archbiahop of York, was lamentinr 
that the clergy who visited him would not find 
things in such good order aa in tbe time of his 
beloved Mar^, " She was, indeed, mare pac^ 
CMTn," to which a curate rejoined — " True, my 
lord, but she was mare mortimm first" 

In 1715 waa a total eclipse of the sun, followed 
in a fortnight by an eclipse of the moon. A lady 
asked his grace if he bad seen the eclipse of tha 
moon. "No," said be, "mj chapWn aaw that; 
/ aaw the eclipse of the sun.^' W. G. 

Has not Ohibf Ervinb taken tbe point out of 
this story by inverting its details ? I have always 

heard it thi 

" Sir William Dawss, ArchUshop of Totk, ' 
rand of a pnn. Hia clergy diaing with him for 



tim iftcr ha bad hat hii lidj, ha lold them ha fund 
iht^ did not find tbiugi In so good order u the}' used to 
b« II the time of poor Uiry ; and, looking extremelj 
•orriwrnl, added with a deep »iBh, ' the w»»> indeed, more 
paeifimm.' A enrat^^ irho pretty 
had leen, said, 'Ava, my lord, bal 
tiMM Int.' "—Sea Hark Lemoa'a Jt 

Th« pan 
think, by the following :- 

" Admiral UnneaD's addreaa to the officem who came 
m board faia ^ip (br inttTnctions pTevioui la the engage- 
t with Admiral de .Winter wu b«tii laconic and 

Jtil Boat, No. 1036. 

n the name of 'Winter is equaUed, I 


"—Ibid. Ha. 1265. 

a good 

W. Spasbow Simpson. 

The beat pnn I erer heard was made on Lord 
Arthur Hill, one of Wellington's ai^ei at Water- 
loo. He was nmownad for hia convemational 
powers. After a dinner party, at which he had 
ahone with UDuanal brilliancj. Mine one remarked 
«f him, " It will be a great pity when hie mother 
di«a." " WhyP " " Because now he ia a plea- 
atmt Hill ; then he will be Baron Sandys." 

A nmilar play on namea was the followinK : — 
Mr. Falls, a weU>knowii Irish sportaman, bap- 
peoed nnfortonataly one day to ride down a 
lUHUid. The irasdhle but witty master attacked 
him in no tb^ measored laoBuage. " Sir," was 
the reply, "I'd have you recollect that I am Mr. 
Falls of Dungannon.'' The answer was ready : "I 
dm't care if you were the Falls of Niagara; you 
•ha'n't ride oyer my hounds." 


Saabbbitcx Ccstom (4'" S. vi. 477.) — Your 
corrMpoDdent A. S. asks if any reader of "N,&Q." 
can t&row any light upon the history or exist' 
enoe of coatoms similar to that observed at Saar- 
briickP I have rtad and heard of such cuetoms, 
but I must confesa that I have never previously 
heard of an application of the protecting influence 
of tree booghs to rulway carriages. The " march 
of idencA must account for this. 

To hang branches by the doors of houses ia an 
ancient and waa a popular custom. Thus I read 
at p. 133 of a sm^ anonymous book entitled A 
eiwri Account of lh« CUy end Chit of lAchJiidd 
la Khach it addta a Short Account of tht Callicdrai, 

■It waa I 

cnatom on Aainrndon Day for the clergyman 

■idesmen, and followed 

cbildren bear- 

le goipel for the day, after which 
Aey ware regaled with cakea and ale ; during tha cera- 
mmy tha door of ereiy boose wu decorated with an aim 
boo^," &c Ac. 

Further: I am informed that in the villa^ 
lA Lejland, I^ncashire (which villa^ ipve* its 
name to the hundred in which it is located), 
ih«e pivrailed a cnatom (my informant helievea 

on Hay Day) of the following nature :— The viU 
tagers would hang by the doors of the better 
known or more notorious inhabitants houghs of 
trees, the different shrubs or trees having varied 
^gnifications, and speakinK as to the popular re- 
pute, good or evil, of the dweller tu the tenement 
so decorated. This was nearly half a century 
ago, and I ^ould be glad to learn — 

1. Whether such practice is still in vogue. 

2. The emblematic meanings of tiie Tarious 

Again, we have the May Day custom of bus- 
pendmg hawthorn houghs by doors. 

Thoku Tdllt, Jun. 

BiPTiBH FOB TBI Dead (S-* S. TiL 33 ; 4* S. 
V. 424, 644, 666.)— So much has already appeared 
on this fUfutio reriifii in the pages of "N. & Q." 
that I am surprised none of your correspimdents 
refetted to the interpretation inserted in the 
Odd. Mag. vol. ulii., as proposed in part by an 
eminent cuvine, Bishop Pearce, and further sup- 
ported by a no lees eminent critic, Isaac Reed. 
It is, in my ojunion, worthy of resuscitation in 
this i^x^r iaT^;ru>, ^though it has at great length 
been revived in the Joitmai of Sacred Literature, 
V. 396-414; and I shall, with your permission, 
supply the interpretation referred to in an abrid(red 
form, and as succinctly aa the subject will admit 

The commentator shows that 0airT(i'<aeiu wg- 
nifiea to die a violent death by the hands of per- 
secutors, and the critic adds the precise idea of 
Srlp lao riHpir, which in this place means those 
to wham the gospel was preached (those tcAo eat 
in darkneu and the ihadov) of death), and upon 
whose account the preachers of it suffered: — 

" Tha interpretation here propoaad is not only In per- 
Act aocordaDca with the word of God at large, with the 
language and aentimentii of SL Paul bimaalf in other 
parts of his epistles, with the train of reaeoning pur- 
sued in the chapter in which theae word* are fotmd, and 
with the aenea or the word* elsewhere separately and con- 
nectivdy; bnt all the argumenta add need in it« eapport 
have been drawn from these sonrcm, than which none 
can ba mora Intimate or better entitled to deference; 
each of them poaw M a o s in Itseirsome strength, and com- 
bined, they appear to prove that the Apoatlea are the 
peniana here spoken of aa boptjied— that the baptism 
referred to is that which our Saviour aanonnced ai thair 
portion (Mark x., Luke xiL) i and that by the dead are 
meant the people of God, the body of Chriatians in tha 
apostolic limes who were led bv the Apoatlea to con- 
aider themselves dead, and to lead them to do which 
they endared that afflictive baptism ; and Anally, that 
theae words in this sense are well adapted lo mm op a 
powerful appeal like that of the Apostle, as descnbing 
in the conduct both of those who preached and those who 
racnved tha Ooq>el, if there was no raanrroclioo. a depth 
of iufatDstion and an axtent of folly periectly onae- 
oonnUble. 'Their life' in thia caao 'would have been 
madneea' indeed, 'and their end without honour.'"— . 
( Witdom of Solommi), B. K. in Journal, Ac. | ( 




St. Lbonasd (4<^ S. vi. 371.)— -la this mply 
(In the Editor) we are told th*t there wen two 
aamtaof the name: ooe being abbot of VandceuTiie, 
the other abbot of Noblac. Is then anjthing ia 
the history of this "pair of aunts" to aoooimt 
&i ihat extreme popularity with atu forefathers, 

"Vebitas is Pbtbo" (4« S, ti. 474.)— This 
snyin^ of Democritua (who died B.C. 367^ is, so 
br as I have been able to discover, fiint given by 
Cicero in his Aeadetmci (i. 10), supposed to have 
been written Fibout b.c. 45 : " Naturam accuaa, 
quie in profundo veritatem, ut ait Democritua, 
penitna abstrnserit." Possibly Seneca (SeHrfic. 
ti. 23) has it in his thouehtB, when he aaya i 
"Involute veritna in alto utet." Dr. Walcott 
(" Birthday Ode ") teferatoit: — 

" The s»ge> Mil-, djiiOT Truth ddjglita to dwell — 
Stisoga RuuiHOD— in the bottom of s weU." 

Goethe, in his Maxims (iii. 169, ed. Stnttgsr^ 
1840), speakH of Truth with the saintr olloaion: — 

" Der Irrtfaum let viel triditet zn erk«nnen, ab die 
W^riMJt m fioden:Jener liegt aaf darObtrfki^ dMnit 
llMt eidi volil fBEtig wtnlwi ; dl«M mbt In dn Tub, 

There, is a very pretty idea ia J3on Qmirale 
(t. 10), whicJi aemu to aafer to Taith bung in a 
■wall: — 

no reM^ a^d it tinajt geta above fAUehood ai oQ doei 

I have never seen the proverb in any Greek 
-writer. Among the sayings of Democritus quoted 
by Dic^nes Laertiua it does not appear. Can 
any one give a passage where it occnra in a Greek 
writerF C. T, Bxkaqb. 

etrctraBBit (4'* S. vL 474; vii. Ifl.)— Gherkm 
is Scorn the Swed. gttrka = Teut gurcke, a cucum- 
ber, more particularly a smaU eucumher iot 
piokliog. Soma aMtert the word a. oonuption, 
tbough Ae T., of the Latin cuewbita. J. J. J. 

The metuing of gherkin, inquired for by P. P., 
Is, little cucumber) itom. gm-he, a cucumber, in 
German. Ths Dutch have Hie word aiptrk/e. The 
terminal tn, I take it, is a diminntdvej and it 
would seem probable that alt words are allied : 
t£.oiuiurbiia~kmiuMiordemgotuA. A. H. 

J. P. asks why young cuenmbers are called 
gherkins, and for the etymology. The pickled 
cucumber or gherkin is prabablv of German or 
Dutch origin, and the w(M ghericin aeemi to be 
ttom the German fftirke, a encumber ; or the 
Dutch ai/to-kfe, gurk/e, rendered " a small pickled 
cucumber." Wachter thinks giirke, km-Jce may be 
derived from, its curved shape; "Nam Celtica 

liogiuL ciorcea eat enmia, incur«ti% teste Bbxham 
in Lex. Ant. Brit. Succis ' krSckia,' etiamnom est 

currare, ot krock cutvub. Varro quoque nomea 
Latinum a eurtore conatur deducere, quamvis satia 
violenter, utpote litera B in medio dstfitutnm." 
Ihro says the Su.-Gothi ^imta may be from on- 
gurta (med. Lat. aufitriiut). "quod emt cuanmia 
~ '^ 'i genus," &c. &c. ; but tie Uiinka it may alao 

The probabla derivation o£ the different foixns of 
the word in the Gotho-Teutonio and ^aronio 
languages, as well as of liie modem French oourga, 
is from the Lat. cticurbita. Soqnefort, under 
"couconrde, couhonte," refers to coorde, coordie, 
oeotni*, oourdaj/t (fi>i)nd also oonMnrdt), which 
he xeuden "dttouille, ot^ebBasa, t imwi Jt a; ea ' 
Languedoo, oougotfU, cotiffonrda," 



A Jacobus Soho: Cook-ftohttto, etc. (4"" 
3. vi. K43.) — I qnot« the following from a Bitiory 
of Einlyrt, by Peter M'Intoah. (Third e£tion. 
Campbeltown, 1870) r— 

"■In thowi days (a oentnTj ajfo arid later) the acbool- 
naaCsn being Ui mniUMialM for tlwir labonr, and sobool' 
ttm bung vny low, tlia teanhar daimad a Cnw-will 
offBiing OB C^dlemai day, it baing an old ooaCoa ; and 
tha parents oT tbe childrui took a yraat interest iatliat 
dav, making an effbrt to provida tbe scbolara with mids- 
tbiDK haodNDie to oSisr to their teacher ; and to BDimats 
the childnn, a ooek-tlght was prapowd, with other amuse- 
In some Dnes of verse that follow, tbe author 
tells ua of the delight of the boys in preparing 
their birds, and gives a description of a fight, con- 
cluding thus :^ 

"All tboae who die In tbe gnat fl^t. 
The master cUinu them aa hia right." 
Further on he tells us that — 
" The teaoher coUaotad his oS^rlng; and tbsbo; and 
prl who gave most lecalvad tbe envied tilla ot King and 
Queen, which title they had tbe honour of carrying to 
the fint da; of May." 

D. WiiCPHAtt. 

Ciaciir (J* 450, 556,)— "A Frbscb- 
■iir" does not aeem to have seMi the Cancan 
danced lately in the Jardin Uabille of Parie, the 
Tivoli at Hamburg, or in the public gardens in 
Berlin, dss be would not have vHitnred to defend 
its decency. It may be interesting to your readers 
to know that the cancan, as danced by a Fxanch- 
woman, formed the chief source of the amiis»' 
meat of the Beriiners up to, and even ^ter, the 
deduation of war. The cylinders for adveiiise^ 
ments in the Uuter-der-linden continued to be 
covered with invitations to see this lasctrious 
dance for three or four dnys after war was de- 
clared, up to ths time tluA tiiey wwe required 
by the govsnunent for advertisements oalllng out 




tbe Landwelit and 'wHotkig peraam to work in 
the anmak, and till &6 anti-GnllioHB feelii^ 
Bm<ng lie |ieople caused tlie arfiite to mtraat. 
Cancan ie derived from Lat. quaaquam, althou;^. 
In tiie flckools of die Middle Agea the promrn* 
ciation of this word was the aat^ect of fierce 
contention, one partj pronouncing it crmeem and 
the other gnanquam - hence it cmne to eignifj 
tittle-tattle, gosdp, soanda^ nodue fainiliarity, 
&c. J. H. 

" Hic UBKK EST IB avo," ETC. (4'" S. iii. 506.) 
!%« aathor of this ie inquired for by Mb. Wattsh, 
who will find the anawer in joni columne given 
by J. S. (2^ S. i. 140). The-anthorisWrfireDfels, 
Iro f ewor of Divinity at Beale in the early part o! 
the laM oentuiy. thieof your-eorreapoBdente, M. 
(1" S. xi. 78), fumishee a tmnslttion ; may I eug- 

"Herein do Mcta of every kind 
For their own doelrihss looli; 
And just as mrety do rtiev find 
ThoM iMtnata^ia Ck« book." 

W. T. X. 
JxtSB FoRFKinnrM (^i'^ S. ri. C 45.)— Probably 
one of the books Telating to the Irish forfeitureB 
of 1689, of which Ma. KU01.EAN is in search of, is 
A Sook of Poainffi and Sale of Forfeited Estates 
in Ireland, now in the British Museum ; the date 
is 1703, and there is a MS. index of the pur- 
chasers' names aj^ended to it. There is a good 
deal of information on the same subject in the 
JtQtortt of the Commianoaeri of Public Secordi in 
Ireland 0821-25), the third Tolume of which 
giTm " Abatracts of Grants of Lands, &c., under 
the Acta of Settlement and ExpUnBtion, A.D. 
1666-1684}" and, as trail as I remember, ab- 
■tnoti from conreyanees of tbe forfeited 'Catatee 
of 1088. The latter estates were sold at Chiches- 
ter House, College Green, Dublin, in or before the 
year 1703, by truatees appointed for the puroose. 

8L Petor'g Square, Hammenmilb, W. 

DKMfnnACS (4"^ S. v. 680j tL 78, 183.)— The 
AMob/tical Luettigation of the Scry^ttral Claim* of 
the Detil, by RiMsell Scott, 1822, has been attri- 
buted in your pages to Dr. Bair of Liverpool. 
Has this gentleman written on both aides of this 
vexed question, seeing that A Letter to the JUv. 

vexed quest 

Bow DT CojfiKJK Praim (4'' S. vi. 486, 860.) 
I have a Prayer-book of the same kind : — 

-LoBtfoe, pTiMed by J^m BetHeH, Printer to the 
Eiig^ HoM Ezoelknt Haj«s^. and t? the At^imt at 
noma* J w rw i ni, sad Mnry BUh, d«e«M'd. ITSS." 

ft is In its original black calf gilt binding, and 
has bound -whb It " A Companion to the Altar," 
(fiftariL !Piriier, Bible and Crown, Lombard Street, 

17SI), and "Stemhotd and Hopkins's Psalnu" 
(printed by Sue. Collins for the Company of Sta- 
tioners, 1718.) It eontmns many coarsely executed 
Slatea. The frontispiece is a portrait of King 
leoi^l " Joseph's Dream " is in the carpenter^ 
ahop with tools about The illustration to "Gun- 
powder Treason " ia an eye in the clouds sending 
a column of rays on to Guy Fawkes's hand as ha 
is carrying his lantern by night to a conventional 
parliament house. Mv copy ia very neatly ruled 
throughout with red Imes. J. T. F. 

loae sight of the -word f eased, meaning untwisted, 
unravelled, bein^ the verb of f ease, from l.feten, 
also fiu, the hair of the head, same as, and per- 
haps derived from the G.fax, a.ft^x, T. faha, all 
meaning hair, or fibres of fiaz j thus we have 
Ihirfa.T; but I cpite fail vrith Jomr Addis in 
seeing a eonneetion with /awe. T. Jxexhuh. 

Mr. Addis concludes his article on this w<»d 
with the following seuteuce: — "How far the 
'ravelling' and 'driving away' meanings are to 
be comiscted, 1 do not see.'^' Wedgwood says 
that the two main sensea of the word are, " 1, to ~ 
whip, chastise, harass j and 2, to ravel out the 
end of a rope"; and Mb. Addib adoiowledgea 
that "io beat," and " to beat into flight," are 
meanings not difficult of reccoicUemeiit. If ho 
had remembered that the whip most in use among 
sailors ia a rope's end, I do not think be would 
have found much diiBcnlty in connecting the two 
meanings. The nautical meaning of the word 
feme may, after all, be the primary one, and the 
whipping or driving memf only secondary. 


54.) — Q.E.'s communication appeared in '"N.&Q." 
S*^ S. ix. 688, without alicitiDg a reply. Hahne- 
mann observes that— 

" Tbe author of (be book *tp\'rirni'rSr Kar' JMpanrar, 
which la among the wiitiiigi attributed to Hippociates, 
has the folloving naurkibk irorda : — l^ ▼& W" 
rauaia fimoi, vol iii ta jfigia*f<Mr^pofi*ra in raatir- 
Ttir {r/mioemi, ka. "Byaimilar things diMase li pro- 
duced, sad by timilar tbinga, administerHd to tbe sick, 
they ara beali of their diseasea. Tbu3 the aarae thing 
irhtch will produce a straajraiy, when it docs not exist, 
will Temove it when it doea.*' 

These sentiments are thus expressed by Coma- 
rius in bis translation, hi 1504 : — 

"Per aimilia morbns fit, ct per eimilia odbibita ex 
morbo unantur, Velnt nrineD Mflicidinm idtmfunl ti 
Mil n't, tt ti $il idrm udat," Ripponrates. Opera, Jauo 
Comarlc intrnpiM*, 1564, pp. 87, »*. Qnated by Wm, 
Sbaip,M.D.,in TVaclxmJfawKfBtity, Mo. 1, p.4. 


Bows iifD CuRiSETs (4* S. TI. 668).— M. D. 
aaks fot the Ihrt teowd of the curtsey. Is it not 



[lU' rKB.*,*:!. 

ID Genesis xli. 4S F " And Le made kirn [Joseph! 
to ride iu the aecoad chariot vhich ba bad; And 
they cried before him, Boa the knee." The cuitse; 
was formerly used by the male as well as the 
female sex. E. V. 

Behabkable Occubrgucs to Bklls (4"^ 8. vi. 
384, 407, 486.)— When the Royal EichaDge was 
burnt down a few years wnce, I remember the 
newspapers telling us, as a curious coiocidence, 
that the lost tune the bells in the clock chimed 
ero they fell was, " There's nae luck aboot the 
boose,"' I cannot vouch for the fact, but only 
for reading it. P. P. 

Mancbbsteb Ceap-Booib (4"' S. ti. 336, 460.) 
A few remarks on the list (p. 466) may be accept- 
able. The Shepherd of SaUtlnin/ Plaiu is from the 
Cheap Repository Tracts of Ilaunah More. The 
Old Woman of ttaicUffe Highv>ay was one of the 
old Aldennory chap-books ; it is A curious bit of 
nonsecae &om begioniug to end, in the same style 
as Foote's "He died, and she very imprudently 
married the barber " (vide " N. A Q." 3"" S. iv. 187, 
237.) However, it must not be forgotten that 
the " old woman " was laid under her "wooden 
stone " long beforeFoote was bom. Washington 
Irring and many others introduce a "wooden 
tombstone," but the earliest instance that I know 
of such a memento mari is the one in The Old 
Woman of Satdiffe Sightcay. 

The Merrt/ Piper is a modem Teraion (but not 
ft very modem one) of 7j(« i^'iw and Bo^, which 
was reprinted by Ritson. The Merry I^per is in 
tolerably smooth ballad metre, and contains a few 
laughablB incidents that are not in the old ver- 
sion. Ur. Swindells presented me with a copy 
of this chap-book, ana with an old edition of 
part I., apparently printed about a century ago. 
Tumtnua and Meary is from Tim Bobbin's (CoU 
lier) LaneaMre Direct. 

Dvdtt and [prem] Peas, or the NevicaMe Rider, 
b a Newcastle story founded on a domestic inci- 
dent in the old northern family of Coolisoa. The 
Tahle-Book of Richardson gives full particulars. 
There is an interlude on the subject that has often 
been acted in the north-country tlieatres. The King 
and the Cobbler, Tom Hickalhrift, Doctor FaaUtit, 
Nixon'e Propheciet, Simple Simon. Tom Thumb — 
all these (except Nixon) were Aldenaary tracts, 
and are well known. 

by Mtt. Harbison^ are evidently mere abridge 
ments of popular and well-known works, and do 
not call lor any remarks. There was another 
Manchester chap-book printer, who bad the re- 
roarliabte name of Shelmerdine. I think there were 
two, father and son. Has Ms. Hi.bbisok any of 
the Shelmerdine prints ? 

Jdiss HxiTBi Drtoir, 

TiiLBKSOF 8noiB(4*S.Ti. 66fl.) — Loaf su|^ 
is put np in lar^ lumps called "lumps," weighing 
twenty or thirty pounds each, and in small 
sugar loaves, with which every one is familiar. 
But there is a loaf of intermediate axe, waighins 
about ten pounds, and these loavea ai« called 
" Iddara." F. C. H. 

*■ TiTLEK ; A Urge tmnested eona of refined sugar." — 
See Wduter*! VietioHary, nvised by Goodrich and 

A. S. W. 

Ross or WiSTONBHiKE (4* S. vi. 6C9.)— -Your 
correspondent will find three generations of tbe 
Rosses of Balkail in a sheet peoigree of tbe family 
of Freer, which appeared in the MiiceUanen 
Gmeaiogica. Some comes of this pedigree w — 

■ ■ • ■ ■ ' * ssell Sn 

F. M.S. 

Anciehc Bvildings ih Kashkib (4'*' S. vi. 
627.) — When tbe snake is in a boritontal position 
it has the same meaning as the lingam— phallus; 
t. e. creative or " vital energy." A circular snake 
is emblemaUc of eternity. QirBKiST should con- 
sult the writings of Pa^e Knight, Qodfrej^ Hig- 
gins, and Henry O'Bnen; also, "Prinpeia mu* 
diveriorum podarum m IViapum luma, iUuetrati 
comment. G. Shoppi, Frond, &c. Patavii, 1664." 
I cannot say more or be more explicit on such a 
subject. A^ to tbe i«Bsage in Oen. iii. consult a 
learned work by the Rev. Mr. Rendell of Preston, 
The Antediluvian BiOory of the World. 

SisFHBK Jackson. 

OiFSiES HI iRBLun) (4* S. Ti.627.)— " Twenty- 
five Tears ago there were many gipsies to bo 
found between Londonderry and Belfast" (Sim- 
son's Sitfory of the Gipiiet, p. 358, n.) In the 
above-named work frequent mention is made of 
Irish gipsies. W. R. DRXHNAir. 

AtheD«QiD, HancheatCT, 

Bell-bihoihs (4*^ 8. vi. 667.)— When I was 
an undergraduate at Cambridge, more years ago 
than is pleasant to contemplate, two of the churches 
there had a peal of three bells each, which re- 
spectively did duty for four. One was rung in 
this order — 1, 2, 1, 3, with very good effect. The 
other had tbe third bell erackm, and made this 
music — "dingdong drngfAiul.'" With the ez< 
ception of the glorious peal at Great St. Mary's, 
and one or two tolerable bendes, Cambridge was, 
and atill is, wretchedly furnished with church 
bells, tbe greater number of churches having only 
one or two each. The Abbey Church has lately 
received a present of two bells, and if the orijjinal 
use of bells was to frighten away tbe evil spirits^ 
as some say, then these two bells ought to be 
most efficacious for the purpose, for tbe most 
frolicsome of the imps of Beelzebub, even " Cob," 
"Mob," and " Chittabob," of the Ingoldtby Le~ 

iUiB-YIl. Fkb.4,71.] 



gendt, would ba " off in a crack " at aoon m the 
jangle of thsM bells reached their ears. I>. S. . 

Akms op thb Coimis op Pebchb (4*' S. vi. 
643.) — The anus attributed to the house of Be- 
leame are, Bendj or and azuie, Botron, Count 
of Percbe, was the son of GeoffinT, and (it is 
BDppoeed) grandson of Ou^iin or Warine de Be- 
le-ime ; Trhich Warino was brother of William de 
Belesine, surnained Tahmte, whose onlj child, 
Mabel, married Itoger de Montgomeiy, Earl of 

Rotron'a (trandson, also named Rotron (son of 
hiaeon Oeofftej, bj Beatrice de Roue;), married, 
for his first wife, Maud, e natural daughter of 
King Benrr I.: and for his second, Hawjse, 
daughter of Waiter de Salisbury, by Stbilla, the 
preaamed daughter of Amuiphde Heeding. Sand- 
ibrd, in bis Oerteahgieal Hittoty, calls Ration the 
"ton of Annlphde Heading, fiiet Earl of Perche," 
and Burke, in his Vimtatton of SeaU and Arms, 
iL 61, asserts that a famiW now called Hedding 
are descended from Amulph's son Rotro, Earl of 
Perche, by his second wife, " a Saxon lady." 
Both these statements are, however, 

The Nugent family are also stated by Burke 
(Peerage, art." Westmeath'*) to be descended from 
the house of Belesme, their immediate ancestor 
being Gilbert de Nogent, son of Fulke ahd grand- 
BOQ of Rotron I., Count of Perche and Lord of 
Noeent de Rotroa. This Fulke married, it is 
Bud, Uatilda, daughter of Gilbert de I'Aigle ; 
that ia to aay, his grand-niece, for Gilbert's wife 
JaliaDa was toe daughter of Fulke's brother Geof- 
inj. (See Orderiau VitaUe.) 

I beg to refer your correspondent to a very able 
and interesting paper on Arnulph de Heeding by 
Mr. Eyton, the historian of Shropshbe, in The 
Serald and Oeneaiogitt, Ti. 241, and also to an 
article in the third rolume of the same periodical, 
p. 173, by TH. J. G. 

Book OBirAiuNUTioir (4"" S. vi. 667.) — I beg 
to inform F, H. S. that in our family library there 
is a volume appropriately omamented with a land- 
scape on the edges of the leaves, which is only 
viatUe when they are slanted. The leaves are 
Bot pit The book ia supposed to have been 
bound between fortV' and fifty years aco at the 
shop of Taylor ft Heasey. If the sight of thii 
booV would be of any interest to your correspon- 
dent, I conld offer it to him in a few weeks. 


F. ti. S. may be interested in a volume in my 
Boeeeasion entiUed Poema and Sttayi, by the late 
Jliea Bowdler. The sixth edition, published for 
the benefit of the General HoapiUl at Bath, 1788. 
When slanted, a very pleasing picture ia presented 
of ft tropical landscape, snd a very great variety 

of shades is formed by widening the slant of the 
edges. I shall be pleased, if your correspondent 
wishes to consull my specimen, to place it at bis 
disposal. J. W. Ja£vis. 

IS, Cbarln Square, Iloxlon, N. 

Half a stoij is worth little, and as I have for- 
ffotten the binder's name, it is but half a stoty. 
However, there was a bookbinder near Leeda or 
Skipton about seventy years dnce celebrated for 
this style of ornamentation. I have seen a beau- 
tifully drawn storm at sea on a Falconer's Ship- 
vireck, and a landscape on another volume. It 
was only when the gilt edges were slanted that 
the pictures were seen. Whan the book was shut 
they were invinble. I have tried to do this on a 
gilt book, but it showed a little. Hy notion is 
that the edges were cut, then sloped and drawn 
on, and then gilt. The designs were coloured 
properly. p, p, 

" Let them TBiK aiu," btc. (4"" S. vi 569.)— 
The poem from which ;A. O. V. P. quotes, not 
quite correcOj', is called " The Martyrdom of 
Marius," and is contiuned in a little hook entitled 
Amd Jane'i Vertei for Children,hj the late Mrs. 
T. Crewdson of Manchester. The book was out 
of print some time ago. E. M. 

Colham, BristoL 

"DoLOPiTHoaj OB, THB Kiira iifn ihk Sbvbit 
WiSB Men (4'* S. vi. 544.)— I take the following 
notes hoax Thomas Wright's introduction to The 
Sesen Saget (Pevsj Soc.), which is abstracted from 
M. Loiseleur Deslongchamps's .£hiii lur les Fablee 
ladiennetj etc. (1B38). 

The onginal Indian romance is named Sauhiad, 
after its author. The Arabian historian Masaoudi 
says that this writer was a contemporary of a 
King Gourou. InMassoudi's time (died a.d. 966) 
there were Arabic and Persian translations of the 
romance. Two Oriental writers cited by M. L. 
Deelongchamps state that it was composed under 
.the Persian dynasty of the Arsacides (b.o. 25Q to 
A.D. 223.) 

From the Indian original are derived — 

A, The Arabian romance. The King, his Son, 
the Faiioun'te, and the Seoen Vvcters (translated W 
Jonathan Scott, 1800). 

B, The Hebrew romance, The Parablet of Sea- 

C, The Greek romance, Syntipae, 
The date of these three is unknown. 

From B (which is at least as old as the end of 
the twelfth century), it appears, was derived the 

Sose Latin romance Stttoria smtem tapienlum 
oma, by John, monk of the Ablwy of Haute- 
Selve (early thirteenth century) ; thruQgh which 
veruon the work was communicated to nearly all 
the languages of Western Europe. 

From this Latin version Herbert or Habert, a . 
trouvire of the thirteenth century, madaaTe^M 



[4* a. TO. Fm.*, 71. 

ft«« translation in FrancK v«n«, wliich is beat 
known by tho tilto Dol<^athot, th* name of the 
IdBS vrho is fatlKr of the ben> of the powa. 

For deteils I refei B. B. W. to_Mr. 
Wright's preface. 

The [omaDce in all its Caims a & collecnon of 
BtorisB coDuected togethsT by this prouud-plob. 
A pnnce, E&lselj accuaed hj one of Ma father's 
wives of having o£Eered hei TiolsBce, is defended 
by seren philosopheis, who taU stories ahowiug 
up feminine malice and perreraitj. The wife hu 
her turn at Btory-teUing in soswer to each □£ the 
philDsophfizs; sad the final cesuUi is the bjum^b 
of the pionce'a innoeeocei 

The separato atones vary considerably in the 
diSforent veiwons, Johh Aokw^ 

Dbah Swift-; Loitdok Chtjkoh» ^4**- S. vi. 
860.)— '^''^ G^ntUman'i Magaatia, Tol. Iit. fart 3, 
p. isb, contains a list of the fiftv new chuwhea 
built in London by Sir Chriatoplier Wren, with 
the cost of each church. At n. 567 it is stated, 
" tbe churches of which you gate aliat, were not 
the fifty new ones, for hardly any of those wore 
built eo early, but of churches, rebuilt by Sir 
Cluiatopher Wren after the fire." The anony- 
mous writer added, " I think it is to be found in 

By Act of Farliamant, fifty new churches were 
ordered to he erected to replace those destroyed 
in the Great Fire, and the rebuilding in this 
instance was to a great extant, if not entirely, 
entrusted to Wien, In the tenth year of Qiteen 
Anne's reign, however, another Act passed for the 
erection « fifty ronre, the object being not menly 
to remedy the ins«ifficiency of accommodation 
afibrdad by the then esisdng cbutches, but also, 
in the words of the contmisaion appointed to carry 
ool th» Act^ the " radManng the inconvenience 
and growing miachiela which resulted &om the 
increase of Dieaenters ud Popery." QueenAnne's 
Act wa» but imj^rfectly realised as regards the 
number of bniidmgs to be erected, out to it 
London owes some of its very finest churches, e. g. 
St. Mary's-in-the Strand, and St. M»rtin's-in-tho- 
Fields by Gibbs, St Mary Woolnoth by Hawks- 
moor, and St. Gilea's-in-the-Fielda by Flitcrott. 
It would be veiT desirable to have a list of the 
churches, with the name of the architect in each 
case, which owe their existence to this measure. 
Any account would, I believe, embrace St Ann's 
Idmehousa, St. George's Bloomsbury, St George's 
Hanover Sq,uare, St Luke's Old Street, St. John's 
Westminster, and St. Botolph's Kshopsgate 
Street H. t. T. 

"Locm'B OEDDtiBT" (4* S. vi. 669.)— The 
"story tfrfd" of Sir George Etherepe is probably 
just as true as a bundrea others that be^ with 
de same words. Where the original is to be 
faund I cannot say; Uie eailieet relation of it, as 

br ea I knov^ occurs ii 

>'» ike Slreett of London by tiia bte Joha ThoUM 

Smith (ed. 1846, L 147.) 

For the plays as well as other wiitinge in 
which thb once celebrated tavern is mentioned, I 
refer Mb. 3. Fbkei to Cunningham's H<miStook 
of London, where, under the heading " Locket^" 
ha wiU find all tlw puticulars he is in search o£ 


HsABtB Tax (4^ S. n. 47Sy. 4SL>-Tbis tax^ 
or whatever it was, could not have bean vAolly 
sepealad 1^ 1 WiUiam and Ma^. I can well re- 
mamben forty-five yeaes baalt, uid renkember th« 
mair calling fiit ua " heantlt. nMvay," aa U wa« 
styled, when I was vary yow^ ; and I 

badaoonik fire^oces heuig blodieti 119^ 

Although I cannot contribnte any of tiie ballads 

asked for by- Cfl., I seniiL lAat t ventnn to 

think win prove almost aa interesting^ — aainely, 

epitaph Rora Folkestone churchyard, in vrtiich 

made to " tbe badg« of slavery " : — 
" rn HamoTT of Rebecca Rogers, iriio died Aogiut 
22°^, 1688. Aged 44 Year*:— 

" A bottM she hath ; it'a made of inch good fiMhioi^ 
The tenuit as'«r ahttll pa; fi>r lepecation ; 
"Sot will her luuUonl bwv Jtim her nnt. 
Or iBTii hor oat of diMS for uDDparneiit. 
From chiamey moaa; \ao thu cell k free. 
To lucb a tkouae who would not tenant in? " 
The above is engraved on a headstone phced 
agtunst the north wall of Uie chancaL 

J. 4.1^. 
" HlLAElOM'a. Sbotami, ihs Sa8B Ceow" 
(4'' S. vii. 11.)— Uilarion was anabbot whA lived 
in the latter port of the fourth century. He re- 
tdred to the deserts in the neighbouriioocl of Mb~ 
Juma, where he led the life of a hermit. After 4 
time, accompaniad by a Caw chosen foltewara, 
among whom ia e^eoially mentioned ona Us- 
syehiua, he betook lumself to the islimd of Cyprus, 
where he died in 371. There is a tradition that 
supplied with food by birds ; hence, n 
!.„ „ii.>^ ri D T> 

doubt, tbe allusion. 

C. B.P. 

This is evidently a mistake of JSlarion for FauL 
and tbe allutuon is to the miraculous suMOit of 
St. Paul, the 4rst hatvit. St. Jerom ratatea of 
him that a t^w brought him every day half a 
loaf. F. q. H. 

"The HALt of Wattob " (4" S. vi 645;)— A 
story of the loss of an Englishman who attempted 
to explore in a boat an ancient subterranean cis- 
tern at Constantinople, called the " Botan Serai," 
or bitiiied palace, appeared aboid 1846, 1 should 
atej, m iSharpe't- Magamm. Thwe wm rathe« a, 
striking engraving of the ciatani, giving the idea 
of vaat extant, t£a loof being supported by Co- 
■ haKsr"^ "- 


«*S.TIL Bib. 4,71.3 


I (4* & iri. 488.)— Conf. Thrmetoii 
{liMKierly Timestone), oo. Noitbampton ; Thrip- 
l«w, CO. Cwnmidge; ITiropton, co. Northmnbor- 
land ; TtiTup or Trup, co. Berks ; and the Sazon 
thorp (Qai, dorf), wbioh oomipta into thn^tp, 
dfHp, In^, tkarp. It doM not, howevsi, follow 
tfait ihe suffix 'ie tharr<tp. It may be tiarrap, 
arrap, or arf. Among tbe eighteen Afferent formH 
TVhich the TOCahle ira ia liable to uaume aie 
<n^ 'and tmJl Trdrorsh might mean dwelling 
cm the water ; f)v<-«r-u&, dwelling on the hsi^t ; 
mt-itamf, dwellii^ of Hanap. Hamp is an 
&igfifiii enniame, but I am not aware that it is 
found in CornwaU. R. S. Chabnoox. 

Gray's Inn. 

P^. Mr. Lonm M^B Tkorpt in some diatricts 
ifl oomipted to Thorp, and that in Hampshire 
persona named Sibliiorpe are called Thary. 

E(iinTAi,EirT FoKEieK Tttlbs ('4"' S. Tii. 15.) 
I d)ould be glad to know how T — s would dis- 
pooa of the exiled royal family of France, or of 
thoee of Spain, Naples, Slesmg Holatein, Han- 
orer, &c.,in ^Is scale of precedence ; and how he 
can coi^paie nobility, although derived from the 
Saxon, Norman, Flantageuet, or Wdah princes, 
with ue suona of bonsee that haTe occupied the 
frincipal thrones of Europe. S. 

Fools, ok MomHB of Sxrhaus (4"> S. vii. 12.) 
The brooks nnS watercourses which empty them- 
aelree into the river Wyre, within ita tidal influ- 
ence, have dotal or fioodgatet placed at some dia- 
tance from theb mouths in older to prevent the 
" mland " from being OTerflowed by salt water, 
Belowthe the river, those tributaries 
are called poolt. The streams which fall into the 
"Wrre beyond the reach of the tides are never 
called by that oame. Jaubb Peabsob. 

Letter of Guileo (4'* S. vii. 12.)— The ori- 
ginal MS. of the letter of Oalileo to CastcUi, 
dated Dec. 21, 1013, which is doubtless the epistle 
referred to by M. H., was in 1813 in the collec- 
titm of the well-known liitirateur Foggiali, and 
was printed I^ him in bis SSrie de' Teiti di lingua 
<1818, i. 160). It was afterwards printed by 
Ventnri in his Memorie e Lettere Hi OaHlei (1831, 
pcrtl. p. 203), and probablj' also in Alberi's edi- 
lion of the Opav A Galiiei, which I have not at 
hand. Gbosoe M. Gbsbh. 

57, Eiog Williaat Strut, Strand. 

The FuDfT of "Guibo's Aueora" (1" S. ii. 
S9I ; 2^ S. iii. 206 ; 4"' S. tu. 13.)— Probably 
the readers of " N. & Q.," even if tbey remember 
it, will be unable to find the reply to this query 
in the firtt seriaa, because it is not referred to in 
the Index, having been insBrtad only inddentally 
in a long gommanloation <m a subject of the 
anne deecriptioii. It is as follows : — 

" There Is by the game author (AlMiader Mtoha, 
apod Golenm ad Partbeaium XioBensem) anotber de- 
scTiptioD of tha rerotution of the pluiala, whiah i< worthy 
of notice, iaamnnch as the Lathi traaslatiim contains 
many of the expressiinia la the verses subjoined, as Ha. 
Davtbos Tvasett informed as (I" g. ii.G91),to apiint 
of Quido'i c«t^rat«d Aarara at Roma, an UKouOt of 
which is,^T«n Id ffotia dm Eitampa apOKa -a la £U- 
lialAegKt du Boi,.l2mo. A Talis, 1823. 

'Qnadi^i^ iDvectaa equEa So 
CiraamvNat ouim Inaa ' — 

Imitated In tuelfa- ait ltt ok a. Tb» nmnber of n^^nphs 
b; vhich tba sun is acooinpaDied, and which hand to 
band sqimuod tda chatiot, indieates not the bonis (!■' 8. 
iii. 287} bnt the days of the week, the namee of which In 
several langnaees are derived from the aevao phnets, 
tbst golden ifain in whioh originated the pnncipal 
deities of pagan idolatry."— 1" S. viL 132. 


Rev. SiBTJBL H«ST«T (4^ S. -vii. SB.)— Be was 

oufe Professor of Moral Fhlloeophy in the Wil- 
liamabuT^ Collie, Vi^^ia, and the lanthor of 
several literary worts enumerated by Watt. I 
Blwa3's understood that both the French and 
English text of fathek was the production of 
Beckford. The notes alone in the Bayard edition 
are assigned to Dr. Henley. 

Tsoiua E. WmriNftioir. 

Heform Bill in 1831 C^" 3. vi. 645.)-J well 
remember refusing to pay the tases then, the 
Marquiaee of 'Weatminster and Lansdowns being 
mv exeniplara. Ja]|[£3 Gil^ibt. 

51, Hillkreet, Peckbam, S.E. 

Gobs (4"" S. vi. 546.) —Oort or gorcc (from 
the French gorl), a weir. By statute 25 Ed. UL, 
c. 4, it is ordained that all goroea, &&, whereby 
the king's ships and boats are disturbed and can- 
not pass in any river shall be utterly destroyed. 
Sir E. Coke derives this word from " gurges, a 
deep pit of water," and calls it a gort or gtdf: but 
this seems to be a mistake, for in Domesday it is 

called gotti-t and gori, the French word fc " 

(JacoVs Law Diet.) ' 

O. M. T. 

The meaning of this word is a point, a pike, a 
horn, bmig the Saxon gort, originally applied to 
n prickly shrub, the juniper, and restharrow. 
Some suggest the German gein but the Saxon, I 
think, is sufficient. • J. J. Jk. 

D . G (4'' 628; vii. 63.)— For a 

fuller account of D G aee 8"" 8. v. 846. 

It is strange that several thousand potuds should 
have been pud for the suppression of a libel, and 
still more so that the libeUer should tell it in 
print Mr. Daniel, however, only says, " a large 
sum was given by order of the Prince Regent." 
In The Modem Dtmciad (p. 28, ed. 1836) he eays 
of himself, " I who abhor a bribe." Gifford 
{Saviad, 1. 146) says, "I who receive no bribe," 


t**s.vir. fbb.*, 71. 

and the vhole passage is altered &om Qifford foi 
the worse. 

I am BOiry to think ill of a writer -who hasp Ten 
mo much pleasure. The tone of Th« Modem 
Dundad is bip;h, aad its crilidsm generall; sound, 
ftnd, though large approprtalaons are made from 
Pope and Giffori, the greater part is gwd and 
original. If Mr. Daniel reallj took the Ragent|8 
money, he could afterwards write highly of his 
generosity whan well applied. In the eariy edi- 
BoDs of The Modem Dtmciad O'Keefe's age and 
distress are thus noticed : — 

" F. I'll name 0'K*eft. J". I can't b« grare with him. 
A rare compound of oddit/ and wbim. 
His natira ease, his qaaint amnNng stjle, 
And wit groteviae woald make a ilolc amlle. 
Ye wbo have lauRhed when LIgeo trod tha stage 
Bttan this dull and nntimental age, 
Ba Kratefii! for the marrimeEt he gave, 
And Muooth hie cheerleu panage to the giaTC." 
On this, in the edition of 1835, is a note :— , 

" King George the Foorlh, wilh that fine feeling which 
Btampa an additional valae on a favour confen«d, ap- 
pointed a b^b dignitary of the church hia almoner. 
The Bishop of Chiehejter was the bearer of the royal 
bounty, an annual pension of oae hundred poanda. 
" Deeds Bach as these shall bring^ 

And prore the brightegC Jewel in his crowa i 
Shall ehed around his throne Bublimer ran. 
And dim [he brlghtneisof the diamond's hlaie." 

The lines are creditable to D G— 's 

feeling but show that he was stroDget in satire 
than in panegyria H. B. C. 

O. U. 6nb. 

"He took thb Doe's Xosb" (■!"' S. vi. 406 j 
Yd. 43.) —These are the lines that I always 
heard: — 

" There sprang a leak in Noah's ark. 
Which made the dog begin to barlu 
Il'oah took hia nose to stop the hole, 
And benoe his noee is always cold." 



XondiiN.- HiOddraltdCharacltnaiidRtnaHHiitePlaee: 

By 3. Henesge Jesse, Author of " Hemolrs of Kinr 

Georga the Third," Ac. In Thrit Votuma. (Bentley.) 

London has been fortunate in Its blBtorians. From 

FllMtaphen and Stow (wilh his continners, Anthony 

Munday and Strj-pc) down to Pennant and Peter Cnn- 

ningbam — to say nothing of a host of minor luminaries — 

London has never wanted the pen of a ready writer to 

chronicle its growth and progress. The lut t^ years 

hare iKen essentially proliflc in books illuBtratlTe of 

■,,.>, ,[,, y,^j^ before ns, by Mr. 

)t place. A century ago 
.. , .. ih that some one woiild 

what Saint Foix bad done for Paris, 
record oveiy spot rendered interesting as the bcmib of 
soma remarkable event, the birih-^dace or residence of 
some well-known penonsge, and point oat the historical 

aasodaUons oonnected with every locality. This idea, 
partially adopted by Pennant, was cvantually admirablv 
carried out by Cunuingham in his Handbook, and by Mr. 
Jeaae in his LUtraTy and Hiilorical Mtmoriall of London, 

fublished in 1847, and its seqael, Lonrhn and iU Cde- 
rititt, published in 1850. The book before ns is a happy 
combination of his two former entirely recast, and to a 
gnat extent rewritteD by Mr. J»se ; and while it must 
be admitted that it wants the order and precise ar- 
rangement which matccs Connlngham's Saadioidi so 
extremely valuable as a book of reference, on the other 
band, it is charmingly goaupy, and aa an<^ wooid on- 
donbtedly have won higher praise f1n>m the sage and 
cynic of Strswberty llitl. It is only juatics to add, 
that the book is made oseful as well as agreeable by the 
very ample Index of namea of placea and peraooa by 
which It is completed; and would In our eyea have ap- 
proached as nearly as possible to perfection, bad Mr. , 
Jesse tbllowed thepractioe adopted by him in his Mcmeiri 
of Gtorgt tht Thud, of quoting with great fuUncas 
all his authorities. To have done io would periiapi 
hare considerably enlarged the die of the work — it 
would certainly have increased ita valne. 
Lift of Ambroit BoncidU, by Ail FaOar. Ediltd bm 

John E. B. Major, U.A., Fellow of 8t John's College, 

Cambridge. (Deighton, Bell & Co.) 

This little volume ia extracted from Oambridgt nadir 
Qinw Annt (printed mainly for such of the anthor'a 
friends as are interested in the history of the □nirersities), 
and is a reprint of A Pattcnt for Tomg Shidmti ia Or 
Ukltm-tity. Such is the title of the life of his son which 
the elder Borwicke published in 1729. It Is accompanied 
by a mass of illustrative notes (h>m the pen of the pre- 
sent editor, which doubles the siie of the book, and far 
more than doubles its value. These notes Hr. Mayor 
modestly offers as a contribution towards Alfiena Caitta- 
brigitnia, adding-^" that he must be a bold man who 
undortakee to complete Mr. Cooper's work ; but as tite- 
rai7 tastes gain ground in the Cniversity, it becomes 
more and more likely that the attempt may be made ; 
and in so wide a field every gleaner finds some ears which 
have escaped previous search." The editor dedicatee to 
the Master. Fellow.i, and Schntars of St. John's College 
" this view of the Nonjuror's Home as it appeared on the 
eve of the last Cambridge Persecution " ; and our readers 
will find it an important contribution towards the his- 
tory of that earnest body of English Churchmen. 
What I HOP nftht War at the Batikt of SpiScherrn, 

Corzt, and Grartlotte. ANarraliceofTieiiMontht' 

Compaiipiing icilh the Pnaiian Army in Vie MoieBe. 

2lyde Hon. CAUaosoD Winn. (Blackwood.) 


ake shsn 


iding thai 

by, a 

nntowaid accident, our notice of this graphic and amusing 
sketch of the first two months of this dreadful war has 
been postponed until now. Bat the book has mora than 
a temporary interest, and will be doabtlees henaftec 
frequently referred to. 

Dibntti latulmttd Peeragt and TUlee nf Omrteiy qfAe 
United Kingdom of GrealBritam andJrdaad, to whifik 
H added much /n/bruutisii mpecfno the Tmnudiatu 
Family Connrcliont of U> i>eer>. Under dirtcl Fer- 
Kinal Setieian and Corrtction. 1S71. (Dean.) 
Dtbretl't IHmtrattd Banmitage, milk the Knightage rf 
die United Kinadnm of Great Britain and Ireland j to 
ichich II added mneh Informntiim retptctiiig tKe imme- 
dutfe Familf OonnectBHti of Ike Baroneii. Under direct 
Feremcd Sevaion and Correetion. 1871. (Dean.) 
We have so repeatedly called attenUon to the claims of 
this useful, and in point of Itonn meat cftnk^anL Past- . 

4* a. Tit. Fn. 4,71.] 


■gi^ Baranedge, and KnighUn to the : 
puUic, that m ma; varypiopenf coolent q 
ilatiog ttiat the Fecrage ia brought dowi 

.e faronr of tlie 
.... It oor»elv«B with 

alatiog that the Fecrage ia brought down to the very 
close of the jear 18T0, iuainiacb aa It records the death 
of Lord Walsugbam, wbich took place on December 31, 
aad ^ves the nsnal iDComiBtioa respecting his succeoior. 
UdIcsi indeed it be to expreaa our satisfsclion, that the 
«ditor atill eonUiiDea to oaLl attention to tbe drcnmstance 
that, owing to some defect in our laws, any person may 
with impuity assame the title of Baronet i and tbat, to 
their discredit be it spoken, there are many among us 
who do not hesitate to do bo. 

Books RKCBI7XD. — Haj/dn'i Dictionary of Dalt$ ; S<ip- 
fltmmt to lilg TVrfKurA EiGtim, inelKding 0\t HUloty 
«/ tht World to At Snd of 1870, by Benjamin Vincent 
Oloxon.) A moet valuable addition to the iudispeaaabli 
Haydn, if for one article alone: its Chronology of tbi 
Franco-Prussian War up to Dec. SI. — We most confine 
•arselTes lo recording the (ities of Tkt Bookworm; a 
lUutlrattd UAttarf and BiUiografhical Rtvitic (to 
KoTcmber} ; Oobnual Qucttioni prtHing /or Immtdial 
Soltilion, by R. A. HacSe, M.P. (Loagmans) ; JVumImi 
'* " Eitgaat,and Frina imptrialfHndtheFranc6 

ir, by D. G. F. Macdonaid, LLD. (3teeL) 

lio Ferr 

TSB new nomber of tbe AcaJemi 
■nnoonuments ; — The discover]' in' 
on* by Correggio and the other b; 

vhich are now beiog exhibited in mn juDseuoi ui lyr. 
Riuconi in (he Gallery of Yittorio Emanuele ;— the com- 
pletion oflhecastfor Dr. Whewell's statue by Mr. Wool- 
lier, for Trinity Uotl^e, CambridgB ) and the poblication 
shonlyof tKO poalhamous tales by MinAnsUo—" Lady 
Sosan," « ilurt one-volume atoiy, and "The Watsons,"' 
whidi ia uuroitDualely unfinished. 

Tub Hoabitb Stoke. — Dr. Oinsbnrg wIU read a 

Cper oo Ihli subject at the Ro^al Asiatic Society's 
cetiog on Monday eveolog i Sir Henry EawUnson, 
K.C.B., in tbe chair. 

Tdrsday'b GaztUt announces the appointment of Mr. 

James Sent, B.A., ai Friocipil Fainter in Ordinary to 

Uer Uajealy, hi the room of the late Sir George Hayter. 

Tni SovAL AoAnEMT. — Uessra. H. S. Marks, F. 

Walker, and T. Woolner, bave just been elected Asao- 

Damtb's " Divlna CommeJia " ii now bdnic translated 
into Koumanian by the Ronmanian poet I. Etiades Radn- 
lescos, who bas for Some time past been engaged on this 

Ta« DicKSHs CoPTRrotrra.— It ia slated that these 
but- pasted by porchaae lota the hands of Hesers. 

Sib Ruderick Udbchiiox, the co-patron with tho 
CrowD of the chair of Geology in the Uiiiveifity of 
Edinburgh, has nominated Hi. Archibald Geikle, F.K.S., 
aa the first professor. Sir R. Mnrcblson's endowment is 
CfiOOl^ and (he Crown adds 2001. per annnm to the in- 
tsreat on this mm, and the ieei. 

^tirt< U CarrtipanVtnU. 

CuKMOD<tr.o^.—\.vnJl fndarlicia on lAt ttymologu 
ofthliwordinoari'^ZA. 130, 194; V, 319, B70. 
_ A Nkw So!«o from Paris, <nU p. T2.-~0wing to tbt 
miicarringt of a pronf, Ihtrt ii a miireadiitg rn Me iccimtl 
line nf " donntraii pour," intlrad of " vtndrait pour,'' 
irAiei ipoiU Ifie mtlre. 

Abhba's iuggr§tion ikould be addreutd to The Armagh 

G. J. C. (Leeds.)— 1. TTe neoer eaa Oui lintt bifore i 
2. (?) Sir thonuit Fiitlipi; 9. Tbe Bookworm it pub- 
lUlud at ike office, 4, Brydga Street, Oment Garden. 

Sr.— Smith, tpelledSaiijtbfdaet not occur in the book ta 
lohicK Sf. re/irt. 

" Pkcca FORTiTBB," ante p. 77. — T^jKery una tuttrted 
by an avenlglkt ; far, al at hare been reminded by LoRU 
LiiTELTO^, it had already teen annrtred very fidbt ia 
" N. It Q." 4" S. iii- 137, 199, 278. 

Tub Willow Pattbbh.— J. B. u referred to'onr 8'* 
S. xi. 152,29H,3^S, 100, 461. 

Mro MsRRiLit^.— Z. milt find a full account ofJtan 
Gordon, the prolnlgpe of Meg Merrilta, in Ae prtfact la 
the CcnteHonun Edition (/Gay Uaonering. 

GE:<EALOaiCAL UuEBISH af HO intereil bai to the in- 
qtiirer oannol be initrted uitleu tA i oturriit addt hit name 
aad addrea to trhere replia mny befoneardrd, 

Ndherai, Pbopheoies.— We ntnit rtfer Mr. Morbis 
to our S"* S. X. S7, 21G, and V^ S. vi. i'B, 290, 35G, 446, 
496, irhire he <eiU fi«d, nnl only the inilanctt given by him, 
Iml alto a colltcHon ofoAtri. 

T. 8. N.— ElCKLBIOB hot alna^ had a reply. Set 
p. 3S7 of o«r lait volume. 

J. Fbb&y.— Chapman j- Hail, 191, Ficcadilty, eanpro- 
bably supply what you rei^uire. 


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We doubt Ae legal right of the head of the fam' ' 

URCtiDH it. A titOefurAer ' — 

probably eMlablUh the IX 

iMlafnt. td.l.irliiiAmarbepaHlmPiMOIIinOrdaiiaiiMe altti 
mtM Wmh Pdii (Ma. tZfirSir ^ WElum OTSuth, O, I 


[4n'B.TII. Fed. i, 71. 


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STEEL PLATED, irith Diagonal Bolta, Ui leflist 

lllmtrattd Frizt Liiti Gratia and Poit-Fm. 






Oluris SMwkrt. IIT - Sbakcspcve ud AideiUIS — Bin- 
KuluPTOccediniBin lIiddl«(oa, 119— "The iWdinl Boil," 
bi Huiillo, liO - CanteiurlBnlim. IB. — The StrHburg 
Libno — Ciypiy Cookeiy — The ScboolniMtar iliroM in 
BtidTM^hire — \ Contnut. IMS *Dd IBTl — Hummcn — 
Old JokcB — '■ Skewing upon ■ Olave QtMtea," IM, 

QVEBIGS; ~ Smjlhs of Ireland, lit— Btibop AkuMk — 
B»lbculi»n — [•edigree of PeWr BIrt — "Blue Books" 
quoted by Butler — DeS^e or Sv -- The " Eitatln " of 
O«ld»no— "FridHi Tree" — "TheOredan Bend"— Her- 
T«»— The Uolem lbs WeU — Burial Fbcei at Hui 
Siihopa — Uisule id Oaam LaumineDMm — jMijU. 
Wurtlaj MootBgu** Letteri — Theodo^ Noel— Pul&ton 
Tuntly-Quotnticms noted— Baneluh, Wllta, Ac — Tho 
Bode of t&e Walt, Northampton — Biie and the Wbiie- 
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alua Heriz of Withoote, Leioealer^rei SoTth of Bath- Btor; of aSt^ue,!!!. 

BSPLIBB: — The Ciseod, 125— Samplera, IH— Gomish 
BpokenlaDevoDshtrc, Ji. — CbeaaiaEnclandaiidCbiiiP. 
127 — L«dT GrimMDn'ii Gists Id TeviQ CburchfuJ, las— 
The BpeHing of TjrndalH's New I^lament. Second Edi- 
tion, IM — - Times Whiatle." Ic — Hair growliiit after 
Death — Eaiteru Story — War Uedali — ha loedited 
Blegy by OHwr Ooldamith — Aabburnera of PurneM — 
Bbropihlre Bakings — Cobblera' Lampa In Italy — Ths 
Bhombua and Scanu — WulfMina — St, Valentino — A 
Bill actually presontod — Leigh Bunt's " Leisure Hours 
in ttniB " — lliB Five " Tliird^inted " Bnirea- Macduff, 
TbaneofFUe — Babiea' Bella— Wrooft Datee in certain 
Siotwhiea- "Thin eau Might, this eaa Hlght"— The 
Adveiit Bjmn, Ac, 130. 

ITota* on Books. Ao. 


The followin); copy of a trausktian'of a letter 
in French, alleged to have been sent b; Frederick 
of Pnuein to Prince Charles Stewart, haa gone 
the round of moat of the public joumais. A few 
lines are piefiied by wa; of explanation, evi- 
dently to give a semblance of tratli to the docu- 
neat It is represeuted as haying been trana- 
lated bj Lord George Mutray, and enclosed in a 
letter to the person for whom it was intended. 
Both letter and translation had been, it is asserted, 
entombed in an old. black letter Bible. It will 
be observed that neither the original translation 
nor the alleged letter are described as autograph. 
The dat« ia November 6, 1746 — not quite six 
nontlis after the defeat at Culloden ^pril 16, 

He fbllairjng letter from Lord George Homy to ■ 
Aieod, CDctoeiDg a translation of b letter from Frederick 
King of Pnusia to Prince Cbailea Stewart, has beoi found 
recently within the leaves of an old black-letter Bible :— 

" My Lord,— Though this letter hath been «o long 
kept in secret, and hid from the public, I give you my 
banonr it ia genDtae, It was with great difficulty I 
<ibtaiiHd it, and though I am not peiieet master id ttie 
French language, I attempted the translation of it, and 
if it ia not so correct or sablime in the En^ish tongue aa 
in the orginal, yet it will in a great mMaore discover the 

" ' Host tieloved Cotuiii, — I can no loDfjer, my dear 
Prince, deny myself the satisCactioD of caogrataUting 
you on your safe arrival in France, and though the con- 
nection I have with the reigning &mily did not permit 
me to r^oice too openly at uie progress of your arms, I 
can assure yon, on the word of a King, I was sincerely 
touched with your misfortunes, under the deepest apprs- 
bensloDB for the safety of your person. 

" ' All Europe was astonished at the greatness of roar 
enterprise ; for thoogh Alexander and other heroes have 
conquered kingdoms with inferior armies, you are the 
only one who ever engaged in such an attempt without an^. 
" ' Voltaire, who of all poets is best able to write, is 
above all men more indebted to your Highness for having 
at length furnished him with s subject worthy of hia pea, 
which has all the requisites of an epic poem, except a 
happy event. 

■' > However, though fortune was your foe. Great Bri- 
tain, and not ^our HigbnesB, are the only losers by it, 
as the difficalties you have ondergone have only served 
to discover those Ulents and virtues which have gained 
yon the admiration of all mankind, and even the esteem 
of those amongst your enemies in whom every spark of 
virtue is not totally extinct. 

" ' The Princess, who has all the curiosity of her sex, 
ia desirous toeee the features of a hero of whom she haa 
beard so mneh, so that yon have it in your power to 
oblige both ber and me in sending us your picture by the 

Count de , who ia on his return to Berhn ; and be 

assured I shall esteem it the most valnable acquisitian I 
ever made. You are frequently the subject of GOnvera»- 
IdoD with General Edth, whom I bsve bad the good for- 
tune to engage in my service, and, besides his consnm- 
mate knowledge in military affairs, be is possessed of a 
thousand amiable qualities, yet nathing endears him so 
much aa his entertaining tlie sentiments with regard to 
your Royal Highncsa that I do. 

" ' Was 1 differently situated to what I am, I would 
give yon more essential proofs of my fHendahip than 
mere words ; but you may depend on any good offices I 
can do with my brother of France. Yet I am lony to 
tell you that I am loo well acmiaintcd with the politica 
of that Court to expect they will do you any solid service, 
as they would have everything to apprehend from a 
Prince of your oonsummate abilities and enterprising 
genius plaoed at the head of the braveat people in the 
world. Adieu, royal hero, and assure yourself that no 
change of fortone cod make any alteration in my estenn 
" ' From our Court at Berlin, PanaaiA. 

Novemtier 8, 1746.' ? 
It is odd that this affectionate and confidendal 
conunuoication has the word "Prussia" at the 
end. It is not usual for monarchs to subscrilM (a 
superscribe papers of any kind after this fashicm. 
Neither the kings of England, ScotUnd, not Franca 
signed as " England," " Scotland," " Fiance." 

Now the letter and prefatory observation wera 
printed and attempted to be circulated more than 
one hundred and twenty years ago. The writer 
has Id his possession one of the printed copies 
seized by order of the magistrates of Fldinburgli 
on June 29, 1748 ; and the only difference of tOB , 
sliKhtest moment, between the origioftl yenion 
wia the modem copy, is the date — the former 



[4* Feb. 11,71. 

being " NoTember the 8tb, 1747," and the Inttei 
" November 8, 1746." 

In consequence of mtelligeDce received b; the 
muiistratee of Edinbu^Ii that a document of a 
eeditiouB tendency was pnTatAly in drculatjon, an 
itiquiiy was set oa foot by them, and four wit- 
nesses were examined on the snbject, whose 
depoNtioiu were to this effect : — 

Upon June 29, 1748, John Loch, keeper of tbe 
Lai^ cofiee-bouse, was examined in preaence of 
the Lord Provoet and Magistrates. He deponed 
that be hod seen the MS. of the letter three -~ 
four months previoualy — 

" That bang in his coffee-home this moming, between 
nine and ten o'clock, a bov, whom tbe declirant, kr — 
not, came Into the coffet 
fear copies of a printed t> 
out lookiDE to, put iotu 
he keepe hU sugar and 
'With a nnt^Iar want of curiosity, he asserts he 
never looked into them, and could give no inform- 
ation about the boy who brought them. On the 
eame day the constables came with a search war- 
rant, when Loch put tbe papers into his pocket, 
refused to give them up, and only produced tbem 
when brought before tne counciC One copy was 
marked by the clerk of the court, signed by Loch, 
authenticated by Baillie James Stewart, and is 
llie one above referred to. 

Patrick Arthur, " keeper of the Brittish coffee- 
house," was next examined. He declared that 
the previous night, between the houra of nine 
and ten, a printer's boy with hb apron on came 
to the coffee-house, and gave thirteen copies of 
the letter of the King of Prussia to the servants. 
These were deliver^ to him, whereupon tbey 
were instantly locked up, and shown to no person. 
He delivered the copies to the constables when 
they came, but could give no account of the 
printer's boy, as all he knew on the subject was 
communicated by his servant 

Next day brought out the name of the printer, 
who turned out to be Robert Drummond, whose 

S prentice, John Livingston, stated that one John 
inderson brcuKht the MS. to the printbg house 
of his master, where it was printed. 

David Ross, the pressman of Mr. Drummond, 
spoke ai to the delivery of the MS. and the order 
by John Henderson to have it printed, which was 
obeyed, and five hundred copies thrown off and 
delivered to Henderson. lie concluded his de- 
claration by asserting "that Henderson, upon 
bringing the MS. to the printing house, sav'd tbat 
he had got it from one Mrs. Nicol." Who this 
female was (if such a person did really exist) is 
not elplained. 

The seiiiare of this seditious fabrication waa in 
June, 1748; and the paper printed is dated in 
Nov. 1747. The recently discovered MS., now I 
reprinted, is dated in Nov. 1740. 

It congratulates Prince Oharies on hia safe 
arrival in France, which occurred in that year, 
and the printed letter does the same a year later; 
whilst the deposition before tbe mafpstrates ea- 
tablishee that the MS. letter and utroduction 
were not in type until May or June, 1746. 

If genuine, this document is an early specimen 
of PrusMBU double-dealing, worthy of the pre- 
sent refined age. But we have no Uttle difficult 
in arriving at the conclusion that it is a fiction : 
one of those devices not unfrequently practised to 
influence tbe public mind, and prepare it for a 
subsequent rising. That the government, upon 
leamiog its existence, issued those orders to which 

cobites was in contemplation. 

Had the letter been a veritable one, it would 
never have been subscribed " Prussia." 

J. M. 


There is a very interesting and able article in 
the A'or(A Britith Beoietv, Xo. civ, p. 894, on 
Shakespeare and Ben Jonsnn, !□ whicH reference 
is made to a grant to Shakespeare by Camden, 
1600, to quarter the arms of Arden of Alvanley, 
in Cheshire, aa the issue of the marrisKe of hla 
father with tbe co-heiress Miss Arden of S. Strat- 
ford, CO. Warwick. 

I think it has al^^ been understood that this 
lady was of the old Warwick stock of the Ardens, 
and not of the Alvanley. branch of tbat family; 
and I ahould have supposed that Camden was in 
error had not tbe writ«r in the article in question 
suggested the posnbility of the co-beiresa's grfuid- 
faUier, Thomaa Arden of Aaton Cantlowe, being 
a son or grandson of Thomas Arden of Leicester- 
shire, Ump. Hen. VI., who was tbe son of Ralph 
Arden of Alvanley ^ his wife Katherine, daugh- 
ter of Sir William Stanley of Ilooton. Perhaps 
some of your readers may be able to assist m 
attempting to settle this very interesting (ques- 
tion. I may add tbat there is no Arden pedigree 
recorded in the Vidtation of LeiceBterahire, 1619, 
and only once in that very full record is an Arden 
mentioned so late as Shakespeare's time, and that 
is " MuiieUa filia Arden de Parkhall in Com. 

The writer epeaksof Shakespeare's father bong 
of a peasant family, by which 1 auppoee he means 
that the father being (I think) a woolstapler, it is 
to be presumed that ^ his remote as well as near 
ancestors were of the same or humbler condition. 
If clearly made out as a local or personal sur- 
name, it might very materially help all future 
biographers of Shakespeare. Is there no manor 
or hamlet in Great Britain (I will not say Ire- 
land; it has not yet put in a dwrn b ■ "^ ■ -" '■ 





Shakspur, Shagspnr, Sb: 
apKT, ShsclclespuT, &c. P 
aeem to be s personitl name, such u Strong-i'th'- 
■im OT Ana»ttaag, Sbake-th'-apear — & rstber 
military appellation, asd probably of vetr hoaour- 
able ongin. In aDjcnse, I suppose Shakespaare's 
pfreat-^rand father ia believed to have been a com- 
batant at Boaworlb. If this is tbe case the re- 
cord or tradition of such a drcumetance raises 
ft presumption Qlepending^ on the nature of such 
T«cord or tradition) rather in faronr of the ffunily 
being more yeoman than peasant. That Shake- 
•peare himself makes no reference to male or 
female nde, and never troubled himself in the 
Terj eostlj mAtter of pedigree in those days, goes 
for nothing, thoug-b it cannot be for a moment 
■apposed that the natural curiosity of a boy to 
knovr trhere he came from should not develops 
itself in Shakespeare's riper years into the equally 
strong cntioeity to know of whom be came. For 
there are gentlemen I have been acqutunted with 
irhoee ancestora down to their great-gTandparents 
pOBSeseed very large estates for centuries, who 
Dad the very faintest suspicion of the fact, from 
the circumstance of the early deaths o^ parents 
and other members of their families, a lather's 
or grandfather's second marriage, whereby chil- 
dren by the first wife suffered school-baniahmeut, 
and BJierwards resided at a distance from home, 
and from other similar circumstances. 

I k now not whether the woolstaplers of Henry 
Vlll. and Elizabeth's time were protected by 
guilds, as many other trades of those times, by 
wUch few of immediate peasant .origin were at all 
allowed to enter the community. But one thing 
is certain, bad not Miss Arden been bis mother, 
we should have had no Shakespeare ; and as we 
know something of her side, it would not be amiss 
that we know something of his — the paternal. 
As to the armorial question, it is thought in the 
article quoted that Shakespeare's and his father's 
reasons for applying for the canting coat subse- 
qnentl; granted were on account of their de- 
nre to impale and quarter, though the father as 
well as the son could, I think, have used the 
Ardea arms without impalement or quarter ; the 
former, I should say, by carrying 
eacocheon of pretence on a blank shield. Then 
it is farther said that Shakespeare never 
quarter, because I suppose his seal, and, it ia 
gested, his monument bear no quarterings ; but 
u there no emblazoned coat of quarteringa coeval 
-with Shakespeare P As to seals, they were very 
rarelyengraved quarterly; and as for monumental 
evidence, why it is no evidence &t alL 

T. Hblsbt. 

I enclose a cutting from the 3fa»cA««t«r£nimi»«r 
id Timet of Jan, 10, 1871, giving particulars of 
a singular custom recently observed. Although 
a Lancashire man, 1 have not read or heard of the 
custom before. I may add that Middletou is 
about five miles from Manchester; the manufac- 
tures are silk and cotton, and the population in 
1801 was 14,482:— 

" SatDrdar was tbe lut day Of a (isgiilsr tttnmalta 
held at Middletor. It bu been for many yean a custom 
among the inhabitants of a locality called Throstle Hall, 
a part of the town, to annaally elect a king over the dis- 
trict, vhoM province is to receive petitions conceniing 
street nuisances in any ibape, and take the beet means 
in his coDception to have the adfhe abated, Tbe king for 
tbe present year is a John Barber, dealer in salt, eaud, 
pipeclay, and other articles of domeelic use. He was 
crowned on Monday in the kitchen of a beer-bonse, 
named for the occasion ' Westminster Abbey,' by a per- 
son who was dabbed ' Archbishop of Pigeon Hill,' a 
neighbourhood situate in Ton^e. The crown was made 
of block tin, and was profasdy ornamented with f^aihera 
and coloured ribbons : it was alan lineil with rabbits' skin, 
and upon the peak was a braaa plate, on which woo in- 
scribed • King John tbe First, 1871.' On placing the crowa 
upon Barber's bead, 'bis grace' delivered a poetic ad- 
drets. After this ceremony, Barber mounted a platform 
in the street, when ha was greeted with vodferons cheer- 
ing by about 50UO persons — the male portion ail tiDCOver- 
ing and remaining uncovered while his majesty addressed 
them, which he did in right royal terms, hoping that his 
subjects wonld be true to him, and be ready for defence 
in case of invasion by enemies, ha promising in return 
that he would watch over their interests night and day, 
and attend to all their petitioot A Mr. Thomas Brier- 
lev, of the ' Cottage of Content,' Tonge, followed with an 
address, in which he expressed a hope that the royal 
dignilywonldbsmade hereditary by the people, and that 
the present king's princee and princesses wonld bear the 
crown after him. After thw his majesty was taken over 
his dominions in hia csrt.atleuded by his otficere of state, 
whom he had already appointed, a strong body guard, 
and thousands of hia soWeols. In the evening a grand 
feast woB held, after which his majesty danced with the 
lieauties of his conrt, to the strains of a brass band. On 
Tuesday the king paraded the whole of Midrtlelon on bis 
'chai^er'—bisilonkey— attended by his officers andguard; 
and in the evening he again rode along the thorough- 
fares, when there was a grand torchlight procession, 
lateronin the night Mr^. Barber was crowned queen by 
the women 'of Throstle Hall, who provided a handsome 
cap for the occasion. After this ceremony, her majesty 

eleven o'clock the royal couple were attended to tbe gates 
of their reaideace by a host of persons, who, after smging 
'God save the King' and the 'Chrirtmiis Hymn,' re- 
tired in perfect order. Aronndof fesf ■■* 

till Saturday evening in honour of the _ _ 

mentioned that Barber had a rival for royal hi 
the person of a Jesse Collinge, a weaver, and 
Mondav morning there was a poll, which resulted in 
Barber' being elected with 20S votes against 200 given 
for Collinge. Cabs and other conveyances were brought 
into requisition to bring voters to the booths. The pro- 
ceedings throughout were conducted in a very orderly 
and business-like manner, and were watched by largo 
numbers of persona from ffldham, Kochdale, Heywood, 
and other pluea." 

1 honours in 

G. n. s. 


[4*SlVU. Fkb. li,7L 


It hM been said that the series of iUustnttiona 
of this parable bj Murillo is in some respects the 
best of ois works now exbibititig at the Rojal 
Academj, I am g'lad to be allowed to append 
lie followiDg descriptive estiaet from an unpnb- 
liehed sermon on the same subject, preached hj 
Dean Stanlej a short time since in Westminster 
Abbey, feeling confident that it will add greatly 
to the pleasure of visitors to the preaent exhibi- 
tion, in enabling^ them to appreaate more fully 
these masterpieces. E. F. T. 

" The Parable of the Prodigil Son inighc be the etoiy 
of any home, in any part of the world. There ia a 
wondeifallv vivid repretantalioD of it in Ita several 
parts in a eenes g( six aucceasive pictarea by the greatest 
of Spnwh pninten, anoe divided from each other, 
piQjy lASpsin snd partly in Italy, now happily re- 
nnited in EnRlsed. The painter's genioa baa there por- 
trayed the trhole story, u though it had happened In his 
owo country. There ia the Spanish father diridine the 
property bMween the two yooths. They are hardly to 
be di5tingnished from each other in that happy moment 
of opening life. The liitnre to them is as yet nnknown; 
the world ia ail before them where to choose ; their father 
hMka with equal and benignant love on both. Then 
comes the parting of the yoanger son on his travels. 
There he starts in hat and plnme — on his prancing horse 
— in all the pride and jraietv of hrilllant success and hope. 
The father hlessea him wiih all the fiilncss of paternal 
affection. His mother weeps with ail the depth of 
motherly love. Only the elder brother stands by, with 
his arms folded and' with stem nnmoved countenance, 
as much as to sav 'I know whither vou are going — 1 
fareeee what will befall yon.' Then cnmea the falL The 
happy, gay, innocent youth baa plunged into riotona liv- 
ing and debauchery. HisSpar'-'- " s- ^^n -^ 

,h the wi 

: hei 

the prey of dissolute men and designing women, who cheat, 
and mock, and cnrmpt him day by Ay. Kext comes the 
retribution, which sooner or later marks every such 
ciner. He has wasted his substance — the gocd gilts 
which hia felher gave him. He is entsngl^l in debt, 
in diseiaee, in ruin. The friends, Che telsa friends, 
who clnng ronnd him as long as he had money to 
give and means to indulge them, tnm against him. 
He ia driven into the wudemess by the veiy com- 
panionfl who before were to him the choice of his heart. 
Then we see him in the bare desert. His finely bas 
Mltn in tsttere nboul him. He ha^ been trantformed 
into the emaciated, hungry, half-naked outcast. The 
filthy swine are feeding around him on the husks of the 
few trees that fringe the arid landseape. He is the very 
image of desolntion and misery. But there ia a dawn of 
better things just visible. lie is on his knees; hia eyes 

^m which we have not diacemed before. He is aaying 
'I will arise and go to my Father.' Hohaa seen tbrongh 
the hollowneia of the pleasures of earth ; he bas canght a 
glimpse of the happiness of heaven. — And then, in the 
Bizth and last picture, there ia the blessed return. The 
father has gone ont to the gateway to meet and embrace 
him. The penitent youth has flung himself on hb knees 
before him. Those eyes which we saw in the desert pas- 
tures lifted up towaids heaven with b heavenly light 
within them, have still the lome deep pathetic meaning ; 
but they are now fixed, not with ■ vague hope on in- 
finite apace, but with a yoomiug '■~' 

' tenderness on the 

fattici's face bending close over him. He has come bock 
to his home, and all the dghts and sounds of borne are 
around him ; the familiar calf brought forth from the 
stall', the servants playing the merry mnaic which he 
nmembentd in bis childhood. And one other there is, 
still unchanged also. It La the elder brotherwitb hia un- 
ruffled dignity and his unaCeined integrity, but alra with 
his unmoved countenance, with hia cynical wonder that 
on such an nnhappy scapegrace — on such a wild and law- 
less truant shoold be lavished so much care and love, ae 
mach triomph, and so much joy," 


RoBEBT HowuBBOR, aged one hundred and 
three. The iaetancea having been so frequently 
recorded in the public joumala, and so minutely 
eiamiaed in " N. & Q.," the place and date of 
each fresh occurrence ought to be forthwith laid 
before ita board of enquiry. 

In last Monday'a Echo (Jan. 23, 1871), I read 
the pleasant account of a purse of twentv-fiva 
sovereigns having been presented to Robert "How- 
linson of West-Linton in Peebleshire on hia 
hundreii and third birthday. Most cordially do I, 
who am in humble eipectancy of my ninety-fourth^ 
wish mj venerable senior ''multos et felices," 
with the like testimony attached to every one of 
them, E. L. S. 

[Would some Peeblesshire correspondent kindly furnish 
the evidence of Robert Howlinson's age ?— Ed.] 

"William Webb, of Frome. aged .one hundred 
and five or one hundred and six. 

EswARn Couch, of Torpoinl, aged one hundred 

Here is freah food for Mr. Editor's inqiiirieB. 
Williun Webb is said to be now living at Frome, 
having been bom there in 1764; served in the 
Marines under Nelson between 1789 and 1797, 
and their returned to Frome, where be was mar- 
ried. Edward Couch ia reported to have died at 
Torpoint on Jan. 30, aged one hundred and ten ; 
was on board the Victory at Trafalgar, with 
Lord Howe on June 1, and in receipt of a pension 
up to the tima of hia death. Surely hia story is 
easily tested. W. C. 

iAs the cases are so "easily tested," we hope W. C 
. nndartake to do so. Both cases msv be settled pro- 
bably at the Admiralty. If it is our good fortune to come 
under the notice of any gentleman connected with that 
department, perhaps he would kindlv inform us whec 
the remids there tell of William Webb and Edward 
Conch.— Ed. " N. 4 Q."] 

The Strasburo Libbaby. — Great interest i» 
felt throughout Germany to make all possible 
amends to Strasbtlrg for the loss of ita library, 
which, in its reconstruction, will be henceforth a 
university library. A suitable locality is already 
provided, and means ensured for obtFiming earlj- 

Srinted and rare works, so many of which were 
estroyed in the siege. The University of Berlin 

** 8. VII. Fbb. 11, 71.] 



hoe obtAined pennisMoii ftom the govenunent to 
place its duplicates at the service of the libmn. 
Id other rarcunutancefl tbeee duplicates would 
have been sold. PromisM have been Kcaived of 
coDtribntiouB from tbo UniTeraity of Gottingeii 
and from Dreeden and Bremen. Munich and 
Vienna are lihe-miaded, and the Saxon Sodetj of 
Sdences in Leipzig has made a gift of all its pub- 
lications. The German booksellera emulate the 
teal of the public bodies ; and the i^reat housea of 
Cotta, Brockhaus, Perthes, Duncker and Hum- 
blot, Saoerliinder, &c. &c., have placed their 
valuable publications at free choice for selection. 
Mr. Trubner, of London, -will use bis best efforts 
in England and Ameiicaj and Dr. Felix Flug«l, 
of Leipzig, while preaeating a valuable contribu- 
tion from his own ubrary, baa promised to interest 
lumself with the Smithsonian Institute at Wash- 
ington for the same purpose. All this is quite 
natural and becoming in a great country like 
Germany, where literature is so highly esteemed 
and cullJTated, and which intends to incorporate 
Stcasburg with the empire. J. Macka.i. 

Gtpst CooKERY.—During the past summer I 
pfud freqnent visits to a gypsy encampment in 
my neighbourhood, and upon one occasion ob- 
serving- a abapeleas lump of clay baking upon an 
open lire-grate, I learned, upon inquiry, that it 
contained a fowl in process of cooking. After a 
while, one of the girls removed it ^m the fire ; 
and on brealoDg it open, I found it to contain a 
veritable fovfl with the feathers sljll on it Tbeae, 
however, came off with the baked claj, and left 
the flesh beautifully white and streaming with 
rich gravy from countless pores. I was pressed 
to pwtake, but the untrussed head and legs 
looked so like those of a fowl which had died a 
" natural death," that I civilly declined the invi- 
tation, although I am a firm believer in the 
adage which says that "Whatever does not 
poison fattens." M. D. 

The ScHooLMiBTBR Abeoad in Staftoeb- 
SQiKB. — The following illustrations of " life in 
the mining districts" are too good to be confined 
to the pages of the Staffbrdihiie Adii^ieer .- — 

"One of the blaok-conntrr sheep of the pr«ient Biihop 
of Licbfield'a flock, huriug there was a biahop st BtlnoD, 
and not knowing piededy -what a biahop waa, took hia 
bull-pop over IVom Wedneahm? Tor the express poipoae 
Of tiTing the animars mettle upon the uev comer, an- 
nonncing to a friend that ' the dawgg would pio it,' what- 
ever it turned out (o be I " 

"FUial J'iety.—TxTst collier, loqnitur: 'TherB'a bin a 
toin [explosion} at Jacktoa'a J)it8.' Second collier : 
' Hoy reytlier worked theere.' Ftnt collier : < Oy, and 
We Mowed ■' to pieces.' Second collier: 'Boygum! 
iihoy, he'd got may pocket-taioifb wi' 'im ! ' " 

MoOKLAiio Las. 

A CoNTBiST, I860 AifD 1871. — In looking 

tirough the Revae Archioiogique, vol. xx. (k.s,), 

p. 365, 1 find the followini^ entry r^arding the 
Anthropological Society of Paris : " S^nce du 16 
iuillat 18CS, O^nSral Faidhetbe, Dolmens et 
hommes blonds de la Libye." 

In that year so lately passed this great genent 
was, therefore, occupied in composing and reading 
an antiquarian and philosophicnl paperj/oufe <£ 
mieux. Can a contrast be greater f H. C. C. 

__„ , -«v- ^. »— . dancing, ringing of old 

sonf^a, and the play of the Hobbf Hunt. The latter 
play was in existence in the days of Cha Flantageueta, 
and probably the song and tnne which they song, viz., 
' When Join'a ale was new.' " 

This paragraph, from the Neioark Advertiter of 
Wednesday, January 18, 1871, may be deserving 
of a place in your columns, as a proof of &e 
continued existence of a very andent custom. 

Newark. J. M. 

Oli> Jokes. — A joke is not out of place in 
" N. & Q.," and if I find any which appear to me 
new or rare, I will send them, requesting the 
Editor to reject those which he has read in ten 
different books or heard bom ten different persons. 
A line must be drawn somewhere, and I do not 

another " one of the best things Canning ever 
s«ud." He and Lord Dudley arrived at Dover 
from France, and ordered a rumpsteak while the 
horsea were getting ready for their journey to 
London. Loid. Dudley remarked that the meat 
was hard. " Harder where there's none," said 
Canning. The teller laughed, and the bearer 
courteously made a noise as much like laughing 
as he could. Had a new pupil at Dotheboya Ilall 
said " This meat is bard, his companions would 
probably hare abataiued from the response as too 

On the practice of repeating stories, I take the 
following from the Ltverpool Weekly Mercury, 
May 25, 18C9:— ■ 

" The Wilkinaon fMinnesola) anperior- oonrt baa de- 
cided when a man Illegally drunk. Said the judge ; 'It 
is not neoesstrv that a man should be wallowing in a 
ditch, or bumping his head againat yOur posia, that yo» 
I may know him to bcdrnnk; but whenever ho beginalo 
' tall the same thing over twiee, then he's dnmk.' " 

Garrick Qub. FlKHOPKINS. 

"SaBEBwe DPOM A GlatbGiatten."— Thfl 
track formed upon ice by sliding is called in the 
Fylde district of North Lancashire a"glatt«n," 
the act of sliding is termed "flkerring," and the 
word "glave," instead of slippery, is used to ex- 
press the quality of the glatten. I should be glad 
to know whether the usage of the above terms ia 
confined to the Fylde, or that they prevml in I 
other districts P Jakes Pbaesok. S ' 



[l^S-VII, Fra. II, 71. 


In the course of 1699 three prelatea of the 
nkme of SmvUi mt on the Irish episcopal bench- 
Thomas Bishop of Limerick, William of Kilmore, 
and Edward of Down and Connor; and all the 
private or printed pedigrees I haye seen make 
them membera of one family. Three Bereafords 
-were Irish Wshops to(rether for a considerable 
period; and althouKh this did not happen with 
Hie Sjnges, yet, except between 1653 and 1660 
(when no Protestant hishops were consecrated in 
Ireland), one and jrwierallT two S/nges held sees 
torn 1638 to 1771. Still the fact, aa regards 
the Smyths, is worth noting. Yet I am not 
satisfied that they were of the same family. 

It is true that they and their descendants 
always aasodated on the footing of relatiTes, but 
then their families were certainly connected by They were bom in neighbouring places: 
Dundmm in the county of Down, and Lisbum on 
the borders of Down and Antrim. But whilst 
Archbishop Henry Ussher married Mary Smyth 
of Dundrum, and died in 1613, and whilst Celtic 
Smyths can be traced in Antrim a century earlier, 
the pedigreea make the episcopal family leave 
Rossdale, near Pickering, temp. Car. I. Primate 
Slargetson came from Yorkshire to Ireland as 
chaplain to the unfortunate Earl of Strafford, 
Lord-Deputy in 1633. John Smyth, his brother- 
in-law, was Precentor of Clogher in that year. 
He died rector of Enniskillen; and his will, 

E roved in England in 1655, shows him to have 
eld property in Craven, in Yorkshire, as well as 
in Ireland; whilst bis son's eiecutor William, 
Treaaurer of Armagh, was the future Bishop of 
Elmore. But whilst this confirms the tradi- 
tionary descent, he and the Bishop of Down also 
using the well-known Yorkshire coat of a bend 
between two unicorns' heads, the Biahop of Lime- 
rick bore arms almost identical with tne uncom- 
mon ones of the contemporary citizen family of 
SmythofHammersmith,created baronets in 1604; 
namely. Rules, a lion rampant argent, on a chief 
of the second, a mullet azure between two tor- 
teaux. Can any genealogical correspondent 
in solving these doubts P ^ 

Warwick Square, S.W. 

P.S. I may add, in reference to recent notes 

the spelling of Snujlh {" N. & Q 

vii. 43), that I have met with instances of two 
dola placed over the y in Smyth, as suggested 
by Sp. 

Bishop AicocE.— Wanted, particulars of family 
and arms of the Bight Kev. John Alcock, at first 
Bishop of Worcester and afterwards of Ely, about 
1486. J- C. 

[Jobn Alcock, son of Waiiam Alcock, sometima burgess 
of KiogBton-npon-Hull, and Joan his wife, was Lorn at 

Barerln', and ralmd himself entirelj' by hii own merit*. 
H* atadied at Cambridge, where he obtained great dis- 
tiaction for hli hoowled^ of dvil and common law. In 
1641 he became rector (^ 8t. Harfcaret, Fiah Street, 
Loodon, and dean of St Stephen's. Westminnter ; con- 
secrated biabop of RochesCei in 1172 ; in U74 was lord 
cbancel lor conjoin tlv with Rotheram, bithop of LincalD ; 

L li7fi t; 

a iiee 

> EIr. 



ieith occumd at Wisbech Caitle, Oct. 1, 1500. and 

be waa buried in a aumptuons chapel he bad erected for 
bimsdf St the north-eaat end of Ely CatbedTsl. Bis 
arms were A. on a chevron betweeo B cocks' beads erased 
8. crested and Jalli^ G. a mitre O.] 

BiLLTCUtrrur. — Will your obliging corre- 
spondent Mk. MAinticB Lbnihui, or any of the 
numerous readers of "N. ft Q." favour me with 
the following information : — 

1. What IS the present name of Ballycollitan, 



2. It is said that William Cleburne (second son 
of Thomas Cleburne of Cleburne, co. Westmore- 
land, by Agnes Lowther of Lowther), who died 
seized of the lands of Ballicullatan, Castletown, 
Bumaduhber and Springmouut, lies buried in Kil- 
barron church or abbey (P) near Lough Derg, 
and that there is a vault in the chancel under 
the east window bMring the following : — 

Orett, A dove and olive branch, 
Armt. Arg. three chevronels braced in base, 
B&. A chiefsnd bordure of the last. 
Motio. " Pax et Copia." 


wife and children P 

3. Was Patrick Ronayne, the s*tiat, a near 
relative of Patrick Ronayne of Annebrook, Queens- 
town, CO. Cork f NlUBOD. 

Pbdiobeb of Pbtbb Bibt. — I shall be very 
grateful for any information relative to the parent- 
a«e of Peter Birt of Armine, co. York, and 
Wenvoe Castie, co. Glamorgan. lie bor« the 
same arms as Byrte of Dorset, and Birt of Llwyn- 
Djrua, CO. Cardigan — vis. Ai^. on a chevron 
gules between three hugle-horns stringed sable ; 
as many crosses crosslet fltch^e of the field. 


"Blitr Books" uroTBD bt Butler.— Where 
are the " Blue Books "published bv Stockdale in 
1813, and quoted by Charles Butler in his Me- 
moiri of Engliih Caiholici (iv. 66, 57), to be seeu f 
Also, what is known of the " Red Book," a work 
in MS., quoted in the same place P They appear 
to have first made their appearance about 1780. 

A HBRT02D~l>^EaOB-J , 

London Library. \ ^^i . V^iOOy IL 

*» 3. Til, Fbb. 11, 71.] 



Db Sah OB Sat.— Thi* funily derives from tm 
■nceator who accompuiied William Uie acqnltor 
(cot the conquerot m modem Mose, vhicti was 
JQst the last thing he woold have dadred to be 
called) from Noimandy. 

Can aaj of jour learned coTMapondenta give 
me any iiuonnation aa to thiB ftimilj previona to 
the cououeat, and elao aa to ita two hranchea — 
one in England and the other in Scotland, where 
«ome suppose it to be the origin of the great familj 
of Seton, Saytoune, Seftoun, &c. ; ^though, as 
the latter claim from Doanil de Seton \circa 
1100), which ia s Highland Christian name, that 
presents a difficulty. Thia Doug^l is said to have 
been the son or grandson of the fifst of the 
8etonB ButhenticalFy recorded. Lord Say and 
Selo derives from De Say in the female line, 


Thb ".EsTAnci" OF Caldaito. — Can any of 
jonr lesdera refer me to any sourcea of informa' 
Uon Tegarding the Ettatica of Caldano, whose 
case (as I learn from the article " Stigmatisa- 
tion," Chamhers't EncychpacUa) attracted much 
ettentioQ about thirty years ago P U. S. 

"FBntAT Tbbe." — I have met with this ex- 
pression as being applied in the South of France 
to an unBucceasful undertaking or person. Do 
you know of any authority for it P A. S, 

"The Gbecian Bend." — What is the clasuc 
sothority, if any, for this expresraonP The edi- 
tors of Hans Breitmann's BaBoib seem to think 
it quite modem, as they call it — 
" A ncenC Paris f^ibian, at once adopted Id America. 
It is tbe curve made at tha back of the bodj', when 
a female carriea henelf as if vslking in a perjlltnal 

hut more than half a century ago tbe term was 
in uae, as will be seen in the Efoniait (iii. 57) :~- 
" Id person be was of the commoD uze, with >ame- 
tbing of thu Crecuin btad, contncted doabtleu ftom 
Kdeotarr babita." 

W. T. M. 

Hbrteus. — Will Aifow-ScoTUB, Espedake, 
or other learned antiquarian correspondent of 
" N. & Q.," oblige me with the ancestry of Her' 
vey, or Hemey, I)uke of Orleans a.ii. 1066 ? 

As this dudiy was vested in the family of 
Robert the Strong from A.n. 888, I presume any 
Duke of Orleans of tenth or eleventh centuries 
must have been a member of the royal family of 

2. The ancestry of the house nf Mtz-Hugh P 
Lower (Patron. Brit. p. 18) states that this sur- 
name was not used until temp. Edw. III. Yet 
Graves, in his ni>t. of Cleveland, states that Hugh 
(great grandson of Alice de Stavelv) " died 
^ Edw. L, leaving a son Henry, who being called 
Fitz-Hugb, continued that name till 4 Hen. VJU., 
when George Rtz-Hugh died," and the name 

became extinct. I also find that Adam de Hervey, 
temp. Hen. HI., married Juliana, daughter of 
John de Fitz-Hugh. According to Lower, Bat- 
dolph was the first of the fomuy of Fiti-Hugh. 
His arms, however, were, Azure, three mqneftnls 
argent; while those of the latter were, Azme, 
three chevronels interlaced in base, or. A chief 
of the last. 

Tbe early history of the Herveys seems to be 
involved in obscuritv. Robert, son of Hervey or 
Hernev, Duke of Orleans, ia said to have had 
seueroi sons, but we are left to conjecture whom 
they are from a number of Anglo-Norman Her- 
veys of the eleventh centuiy. Hervey, Marquis 
of Bristol, and the Clibums of Clibum-Hervey, 
are sfud to be descended from Hmvous filius 
Hervei, Forrester of the New Forrest and Archels- 
garth, 18 Hen. I., who ia also claimed as the 
ancestor of the Butlers. Vide Olarke'a Hist, of 
Home of Ormonde, But there seenis to be some 
doubt whether the father of this Herveus was of 
the Orleans family, or a younger son of Gilbert de 
Clare. Will some correspondent of " N. & Q." 
be kind enough to inform me to wliich of the 
Hervevs a moiety of the manor of Clibum, near 
Penriln, was granted, and when, and by whom 
vras tha 'grant made P In the Rpe Boll 6th of 
Stephen, Herveus fil Hervei pays a fine for erecting 
his lands in Amoundreuesa into manors. Waa 
Clibum one of these P Ndibod. 

The Hole in the Well. — ^There's a very old 
inn near the East Gate, King's Lynn, called the 
Hoh in the WeS — a ratber remarkable sign,_ it 
appears t* me. Tbe best chance I see of solutjon 
or cluB is a query in your pages. What is the 
origin of itP K. L. 

[There were fonnerlv in LoodoD tbree taverns witb the 
aiguofHolsintba WoU"; but " Hole in the Well " is 
unknonn in the history of aign-boards.] 

Burial Places of Maux Bishops. — In tbe 

Chronicle of Man the burial-places of fourteen 
Manx bishops are recorded. Does any other re- 
cord of their burials exist bendes the chronicle, 
or are any remains of their tomba to be found r 
Two, Christinus and Nicholas, were buried at 
Benchor, by which is meant.I suppose, the monas- 
tery of St. Comhgall in Ulster, for there were 
several monasteries of that name, one even in the 
Isle of JMan. Uichnel was interred at Fountmoa, 
Regieald or Ronald at Eushin, also a Cistercian 
abbey and daughter of Fumess ; Richard and 
Wilham Russell at Fumess ; Simon and Mark at 
St German's, Peel, Isle of Man, where nothing, 
or next to nothing, has been done in reference 
to those interesting ruina, though a bazaar under 
high patronage was held for the purpose of rais- 
ing the necessary means. John M'lvar, or son of I 
Before, was buried at Jervaux, as Prof. Miinoh, ' 
rightly supposed, and not at Yarmouth, aa John- 



[4» a VII. Feb. II, 71. 

atone had erroneouBly conjectured. Gamaliel vaa 
buried ftt Fetecboroagh, Thomas at Scone, Ber- 
nard at Kylwynir, swd by Cumming in biililt of 
Man to be Arbroath, by Oliver in hie Monummta 
la. Man. to be in Ayrshire. Alan and Gilbert 
M'Cleland were buried at St. Mary's, Rothsay, 
Isle «f Bute. Wimund or Hamund, whose event- 
ful hfatorr is involved in much obscurity, wafl 
seen by the h^rian William of Newboroug-h, 
blinded and mutilated at Byland Abbey, living 
retired, but where he died is not stated. John 
Doean died Bishop of Down in 1412, and was 
pronahly buried in Ireland. A. E. L. 

M1BSA1.B AD Usuic LiUBAiniEHSBH. — Tlie Vau- 
dois Cantonal Ltbraiy at Lausanne possesses a 
lare miasal. At the end ia printed ia red chanc- 
ten — 

■■ Imprusa liniuiB nrbe antiqaunma Impcaia iitc et 
takdiutrl* lolertis et inEeoioti viri Migittri iohannis 
b«lot ioaigni ciiitate, mthamagea ortum ducentis anlla 
calimi extrationB; sed qoadam aitificioaa characteri- 
landi ac Imprioiendl inventiane missalia somnia cum 
dlllgontia emcndsta felidler finiunL Anno ealulis nostra, 
U.cccc. Tionagalma tirtio. Kalcadaa decembriiui sedeou 
ttver a idisBimo premie Aymone de moatefalcone laaMO : 
•po; et comile principeque imptris dlgninsimo." 

The above miflsal is a folio in Gothic letters, 
ted and black, double columns, thirty-six lines in 
a page, woodcuts, has a drawing- made with a 
pen. Some of the leaves are soiled, and the mar- 

Ci have been mended ; the title ia waatiug, and 
been supplied by one which belongs to a missal 
printed at Lyons, 1S22. John Belot was a printer 
at Rouen. What other works did he imue ? 

Jambs IIbnbt Dieon. 

LiDT M. WoBTLBT MoMT-tGc's Letters. — In 
his Cttrioeiliea of Lilcrature, under the section 
"Recovery of Jlanuscripta," Mr. Isaac D'Jsraeli 
says, "A considerable portion of Lady Mary 
Wortley Montagu's letters I discovered in the 
handa of an attorney." 

Can you or any of yoor correspondents inform 
mo whether these letters, which I presume were 
different from the well-known letters already 
(riven to the public in 1775, have ever been pub- 
lished P TiTRXEr Rkd. 

Theodosia Noel. — Edward Cecil, Viscount 
Wimbledon, married Theodosia Noel, daughter of 
Sir Andrew Noel, Knt, of Dalbj, co. Leicester. 
-. Was she an heiress, and what arms would she 
'learP J. C. 

' Pdubtos Familt. — What family had Edward 
Fnljston of Allington, co. DenlnKb, besides bta 
daughter Eleanor, who married William Wheler 
of Martin Hussingtree? Edward Puliston was 
married about the year 1500. K. W. 

" TSo pent-np Ithaea contracts yonr po«en. 
But the whole bonudlcM Coatioeat is yooia." 
[From H. gcwall'ii Prologue to Cati.] 
" In the fierce light that beats upon the thraoe." 
[From Tennyson's X>tdicatb>H o/Ihe Idj/lli.'] 

" Whose ycstecdaya look backwards with a Bmile, 
Nor, like the Parthitaa, wound him as they fly." 
Where do these Unea occur P P. E. N. 

RiKBLAQH, Wilts, etc — Where can I find 
information as to the marriage settlements, wills, 
&0., of the Cotes, barons of Rimelagb of Newlands, 
CO. Dublin ; and of the family of Goring of Cam- 
bridgeshire or HuDtingdonshira F 


Thb Robe op the Wall, NoETHikpTOH.— 

" At the Bouth-west comer of the chnrelij-ard, built ioto 
the vail of a cottage, is a crucifix, apjiarently the top of 
a cross. The same design is repeatecl on the other aide. 
Thsre are marks of buUeta in it. Could thu have ori- 
ginally formed the apex of Queen's Cross ? " 

So wrote the late Mr. Pretty in Wetton's Norih- 
ampton Guide. The crucifix ia still there, rebuilt 
into the wall of the house which superseded the 
cottage, Mr. Pretty, a careful and conscientious 
antiquary, in all probability saw it when it was 
taken down ; otherwise it would not be easy to 
know that the sculpture was repeated on the 
other aide. The fact that it was ao supports tha 
conjecture that it may have been the crowning 
stone to Queen's Cross. But in " The King's Book 
of Payments," 1511 (Letters and I'npert, Foreign 
€tBdJ)omeslic, in the Reign of Henry VIII.j vol. ii. 
part II.), is ao entry purporting that, on Ang. 3, 
the king was at Pypwell Abbey ; and among tha 
expenses between tlist time and the lOlh, wera 
" offerings at the Rode of the Wall in Northamp- 
ton, at Our Lady of Grace there, and at coming to 
Leicester Abbey." "Our Lady of Grace'' was 
the church, long since destroyed, of the Blessed 
Virgin in St. Maiy Street. Ta it possible that 
the sculpture in St Sepulchre's Churchj&id was 
the " Rode of the Wall " of the chnreh in St 
Mary's Street? Wben the church was destroyed, 
the materials were no doubt used for other biuld- 
iugs, and the distance from St. Mary's Street to 
St Sepulchre's Churchyard ia not considerable. 
I am not aware that any mention of " The Rode 
of the WaU " occurs in any history of Northamp- 
or in any place but the " King's Book of 
Payments." G. J. Db Wiujk. 

SivB AND THE Whitebots. — In the Correi'pon- 
dence of the Right Son. Edmand Burke (i. 41), I ' 
find the following in the postscript of a letter by 
Chief Justice Aston to Mr. Secretary Hamilton, 
and dated Dublin, June 34, 1762, with regard to 
certain secret societies of the period : — 

(•aVILPffl. 11,71.] 



" If hen 411 oath ma inqrawd on any, it mw to be tnts 
to Sive And her chTldren ^ md not to oiflcorer any of ^a 
Whitaboja, her children."' 

Who WM SiveF And how did the name 
originate, and has it anj connection vith [Siva] the 
Hindoo oiTinitjfthe goddess of deettucttonf H. 

Slavxenbebsiub's "Trkatibb oh Noses."— 
Who was Shtwlranbergiufi mentioned in TWstram 
Shandy, and is there such a book as his Treatise 
on Notetf EoinraD M, Botlb. 

SSIa«kenb«rghu la altogether an imaginoiT' perun, 
there does not esiit anv snch Tnatut on Soti by 
him. Steme'a learning and hiunmir apon that sabject 
are believed to haTe be^ bu^onred partly ftom firaaiiius's 
C(JlaqD}r between Pamphagns and Cocke, Dt CaptamdU 
Sactrdotiit, and portly Trom the Iffaiia <^Aretine. See 
fintbn Ferriar oh Sttme, p. Ifil el itq.'\ 
Smith, aHat Hebiz op Withooie, Leicesxer- 

Could you or any of your correapondenla kindly 
fumish the connecting link between the abore 
bnuliee? The first tiAce I havB of the Irish 
branch is taken firom a MS. in Trinity College, 
Dahlin, relative to the marriage of " Francis 
Smith of Kathcouraey with Msna, d' of Beverly 
Daher of Fidanes, co. Waterford, Esq." Date 
not given, but might be about 1670. The first 
bnrial I have any note of is that of their child 
Mary, aged three months, who died 1676, and 
must have been, I think, the first that took place 
in this country, ta an inscribed slab of marble 
marked her burial-place in Gloyne CathedraL 

The writer has the original ^ant of arms to 
Wm, Smyth als. Heriz— vii. "He beareth gules, 
a chevron golds betwiit three beaaunts, upon the 
chevron three crassei forme pyched sable, A.I). 
1^9." And to Roger S. or Heriz, giant of crest — 
" Upon his helmet, on a torse gold and geules, 
an arm couppti,the sieve, party per pale golds and 
geules, holduig in bis hand a griffin's bead rased 
azsre, bekid golde, langued, eyed and ered geulee, 
ic," 7th of Elizabeth, 1665 or 8. 

Any information will be thankfully received by 
John J. Smtth, 

Balhcoarsey, Ballinacarra, oo. Cork. 

SiORToF aStatcb. — iHaniBEE wishes to know 
can any of your correspondents inform him where 
he can find the following legend or piece of 
poetry? — A lover, about to be married, on the 
day preceding the weddini^ puts the ring on a 
^ure in the garden, and when he goes for it it is 
^thcr stolen or he is unable to getitolT.andnfter- 
waida he is haunted by the statue, &c. Also, 
who is the author of the piece F 

[Our correspondent probably refers to a jwem bv 
Moore originally publUbed Bmong his Jmeiult Focmi 
entitled " The King," a tale, which will be fbuad at p. 281 
vf the one viJome edition of Moore's FotHcal Worii. 
Hooie appears to havD founded It upon a story told by 
Oe German writer Frommann in his work upon FaKiaa- 
iiM, book "1. j>t. vi. ch, jcviii, wbila Frommann quotes as 

: III. pt. T 

t de BeanTaia.1 

(4"' S. vii. 12.) 

The earliest known delineations of the dragon 
are, I believe, Chinese. It is represented with 
four legs in all the early specimens I hsve seen. 
The following note is taken feomMarrjat's if irfory 
of Policy and Porcelam, p. 217, on the word 
" dragon " ; — 

" Tlie origin of the dragons and dmilar figuree de- 
picted npon the Chinese as well as the Egyptian pottery 
ia a mystery. The Chinese carry back the oririn to the 
time of Fuh-be (b.c 2962>, who is supposed to have 
?een a dragon Issae from a river in the province of 
Uonan, and it was then adapted as the natiuual standard. 
It is this dragon (Lang) wbicb is yearly honoaied by the 
' Feast of Lanterns.' Some writers suppose the dragon to 
be a symbolical representation of the principle of evil, 
which was worshipped by the ancient CbaJdees, and 
fonnd its way fVom thence into China and other coun- 
tries, even to the New World, where their religion ex- 
tended ; and, from being Bist used as a symbol, came in 
time to be considered as a reality. Christian painters 
seem to have literally adopted this idea, as in the pictiirea 
of St. Uichael, who is represented s^ having felled to 
the ground and fixed witn bis lance a dragon, which, 
symbolical of the enemy ofthe human rac«, was vomited 
from the infernal pit. In the Komisb Church, on Itoga- 
lion Sunday until a late period, a large d;;ure of a 
dragon was carried in procession, being considered on 
emblem of heresy. The devil, it will bo recollecttd, is fre- 
quenlly called ' the dragon ' in Scripture. The prevalence 
ofdracontic omameols on andent sculpture in Kn^land 
uf the Saxon or early Norman period, as also in Ireland, 
as well as the serpent ornamentation of the Xorthetn 
aniiquarics, deserves notice. Fosaibly the origin "f the 
former may have been Oriental. On the oilier band 
some writers consider the dragon to be no mere legend, 
and refer to the fossil remmnsofthe Saurian tribe, which, 
allowing for some exaggeration and emballialiment, may 

It is remarkable that both Cornwall and Brit- 
tany should have those twin St. Michael Mounts 
guurdlng (as it were) their cosslii. Has the esta- 
blishment of those churches an; connection with 
a, conquest achieved by Cliriatiauity over the ser- 
pent worship which prevailed in those parts, 
signs of which may to this day be traced on both 
sides of the Channel P Z. Z. 

The earliest delineations of the dragon partook 

long serpentine toil. In the eatty figures^ 
legs were much u 

chiefly of the character of a sen)ent, having gene- 
rally a long serpentine toil. In '' ' " 
of the drag* 

than four. 

F. C. H. 

There is a picture of a sea-dragon {Draco mari- 
nia) in an edition of Dioecoridee of the date 1543. 
But it has no legs apparently ^ only twppaiis of 
mngs and a long tail cleft at the tip, Mid set with 
a row of poisonous thorns. There is a stnmg 
horo, too, between its eyes. If a sea-dragon 
were but the tadpole of a land-dragon, IS, D.'e 



[*a8.VII. Fra.!!,*?!. 

SoestioD could be dosweied at once, £)r of course 
le tul would in that cfue be ezcbuiged for two 
pairt of leg$ m due coone, aftei the orthodox 
tadpole fftsbioD. Maboabsi O^itt. 

The earliest delineation of this beast seems to 
be that of the " Dragon Standard " of the Bajeux 
tmiestrj. This is figured by Mr. PUnchS at p. 98 
(^biaPursuiBanto/Arms. It has f too legs. Notices 
of the dragon ue found in Farker's Ghttary, 
Willement, and Montagu. J. C. KoasB. 


(4'^S. Ti.500i TU.21.) 

The lines worked od a sampler, and inquired 

about bj J. A, Vs., are about tlie comnioneet to 

be met with in this youthful kind of art. The 

second line, however, has been adapted to suit 

the young tadj'a name. It usually stands thus : — 

" Jesus, permit thy graoiom oamB to aUad 

As the first etTort ofa fonthful hand," &c 

I feel some difficulty in signing; my initiak 
and terminals happening to be exactly those of 
your correspondent, J. A, Pd. (2), 

I have before me two very pretty old spedmens 
of aamplers, worked respectively by my wife's 
grandmother and my own. To begin with hers, 
it contains within a maisin of carnations, first, 
the Lord's Prayer, and tben, in three divisions, 
the following posies : — 

" During the time of life sUolted me. 
Grant me, good God, roy health and liberty : 
I beg no mora ; if more tbou'rt pless'd to give, 
I'll thanklHilly the overplnB receive." 

" A man that doth on riches nt bia mind 
Strivea to taKe holit na shadowt and the wind ) 
With food and raiment then contented be j 
Aek Dot for riches, nor for poverty." 


nnlahcd this sampler in the tenth year of her age, in 
the year of cur Lord God ><I)CCI[.viil" 
My own grandmother's is rather more elabor- 
ately ornamented with lions (blue, red, and yellow) 
and magnificent fiowerinj; shrubs; but only con- 
tains, besides alphiibets, the following song : — 
" You whose fond wishes do to heaven aspire. 
Who make those bleat abodes your sole desire. 
If yon are wise, and hope that bliss to gain. 
Use vtell your time, live not an honr in vain ; 
Let not the morrow voor vain tbouphla employ. 
Bat think this day the lost yon shall enjoy. 
" SoFUU Halbet her work, 1751." 

C. W. BiNanAM. 

I have three samplers worked by my mother, 
■■ — ■ ef ^lich ate iiBM, almoat word for word. 

similar to those quoted by J. A. Ph. AndasM.1). 

(V^ S. vi. 600) su^ests the idea that such con- 
tributions to " N. & Q." " would not be deToid of 
interest, I send those on the other two samplers : 
" From my beginning may the Alnunhty Powers 
BleeslDgs bestow in never^xaaing showers 1 
Ob I may I happy be and always bicet, 

" If yon desire to worship God aright, 
Fint in tlie moming pray, and last at night s 
^ ... ,.,. v.™. ,,1. , j^ 


(4** S. YU. 11.) 

Your correspondent wiU find in Frofeasoi Max 

Muller's recently published (vol. iii.) Ch^ from 

a Oerman Worfahop a verf interesting account of 

the Cornish language and its vitality. He says : — - 

" Although Caniish most now be clussad with the ex- 
tinct langasges. It has certainly shown a marrelloua 
vitality. More than four handredyearsof Roman occu- 

gitioD, more than six hundred years of Saxon and 
■Dish sway, a Korman conquest, a Saxon reformation, 
and civil wars have all passed over the land ; bat, like a 
tree that may bend before a storm bat is not to be rooted 
np, the language of the Celts of Cornwall has lived on io 
■n unbrokea continuity for >l least 2000 years. What 
does this mean? It means that throagh the whole of 
English history to the aocenion of the House of Hanover 
the inhabitants of Cornwall and the acittn pottinn of 
DeamAire, in spite of iutermarriages with Romany 
Saxone, end Normans, were Celts and remained Celts. 
The inhabitaots of Cornwall, whatever tb« num- 
ber of Roman, Saxon, Danidi, or Norman settlers within 
the boundaries of that county may have been, continued 
to be Celts as long as they spoke Cornish. They ceased 
to be Celts when they ceased to speak the language of 
their forefalhen. Those who can appreciate the cbamis 
of genuine antiquity will not, therefore, lind fault with 
the enthusiasm of Daines Barriogton or Sir Joseph 
Bonks in listening to the strange utterances of Dolly 
Pentreath; for her language, if genuine, carried them 
back and brought them, as it were, into immediflta con- 
tact with people who. long before the Christian era, 
aeted an important part on the stage of history, supply- 
ing the world with two of the most precious metals, 
more precious then than cold or sliver — nith copper and 
tin — the very materials, it niay be, of the finest works of 
art in Greece, ay, of Ibe armour wrought for the hemes 
of the Trojan war, as described so minutely by the poets 

Dr. Bannister is collecting materials for a glos- 
sary of Cornish proper names, and has collected 
no less than 24(K) existing ueimea with Tre, 000 
withPen,with40UiiM,&e., and thus Cornish lives 
on. Andrew Bocde tells us {lemp. Hen, VUL) 
that English was not then understood by many 
people in Cornwall. Devon and Comish men 
signed a petition to that king against the intro- 
duction of a new church service composed in 




Engliah, in whicli Uiis fact is also mentioned. 
Bo^su, in his Naf. Sitl. of Cormnoa (315), says 
that as Uto as 1640 Mr. William Jackmao, the 
vicar of Feock, was obliged to admimater Uie 
aftcnunent in Corniab becnuae the aged people did 
not uadetatoud Enfrlisb, and the iiectoi of Lande- 
wednakpieached liia sermona in Comish as late as 
1676. The keeper of the Ashmolean Muaeum, 
Ut. E. Lhuyd, pablisbed a grammar of tlie lon- 
gnage in 1707 collected from old people, but ha 
Ba^ it was then fast decapng. 

Prince Louis Lucien Bonaparte erected in I860 
a monument in tbecburchyard at Paul to Dorothy 
Petttreath, who died in 1776, and was auppoaed 
to have been the last person who conversed in 
the langua^. Frof. Mu MiiUer aaya there are 
manj people in Cornwall who maintiua that 
when penons came to hear her talk she would 
M>T anjthing that came into her head. She was 
belieTed to be 102 years of affe at her death ; but 
Mr. HiiUwell has examined the register, and from 
the date of her baptism concludes she was not 
more than nity-four at the time of her death. 
It is probable that no one now UTing has ever 
heard Cornish spoken for the sake of coaversa- 
tion. Scawen says: — 

"Comlah Is not to be gnttnially proDOnnMd, U the 
Wdsb for tbe most part a, nor muttenng!/, ■■ the 
Anuoriek.noT whininEly, u the Irlih, bnt mnit be lively 
and manlj spoken, like otber primitive tongues." 

Herr UiiUer says that three or four small 
volumes would contain all that is left to us of 
CoiDiah literature. MSS. of a poem on "Uount 
Calvary," ascribed to the fifteenth ceoturr, exist 
in the British Museum and Bodleian, and MSS. 
of mystery plays of the same date in the Bodleian 
were published by Mr. Norris in 1858. Accord' 
ing to Carew these plays were performed in 
Coniish at the beginning of the seventeenth cen- 
ttirj. To these may be added veruona of tbe 
Lord's Prsjer, Commandments, Creed, &c. 

After these facts it is not unreasonable to sup- 

Cthat Cornish was spoken in some ^arts of 
ooshire alter the Norman Conquest. 

John Pioaoi, Juh., F.S.A, 


(4"- S. viL 34.) 

There is no small uncertainty as to the exact 

and chess-rooks emblazoned on their arms. 
Blount, in bis Fragmada Aniiquilatit, states that 
in tbe reign of Edward III. tbe manor of King- 
ston Eussell, in Dorset, was held by Nichola, who 
was wife of Nicholas de Mosteshore, on condl- 

" to count or tell out the king's chessmen id his duUB- 
ber, and lo put Ihem in m b«g when the king should have 
fluiabed bis gime ; Ad nsn-and. fimiliim Scsccbii BBgis, 
et poaend. in ioculo cam Kex ladum snum perfecerlt." 

I am inclined to believe, however, that cheaa 
was known in England at a much eaiUer data 
than either Hyde or Harrington are disposed to 
allow, and in this view I am supported by the 
high authority of Sir F. Madden, who says : — 

" Kotliiag, indeed, is more probable than the introduc- 
tion of cheH into Buglind by tbe Danes, and wa cannot 
refer it to a more suitable penod than tha reign of Cunts 

Professor I). Forbes, after reviewing the evidencs 
pro and am, considers it " extremely probable that 
chess was introduced into England in tbe reign of 
Athelstane, between A.D. 926 and a.s. 040." 

Chess appears to have been well known in this 
country in the time of the Plants^enets. Out 
earliest antiquarian writer, the indefatigable Le- 
laod, has an anecdote in his CoUectemea about tha 
chess-play of King John. He says : — 
' " John son of King Henry, and Fulco Iblle at varlanea 
at CheMes, and John brake FdIco'b bead with the chest- 
boTde; and then Fulco gave him such a bbw that he 
almost killld hym." 

Edward I, was a chess-player &om hia earliest 
youth, and possessed a set of men made of jaspei 
and crystal. From that curious book the JWom 
Zettert, it would seem that chess was a favourite 
game in houses of rank temp. Richard II. On one 
occasion Mrs. Fasten writes to her husband : — 

Several of the royal race of Stuart were ac- 
qaainted with chess. In the Renter House of 
Edinburgh there is preserved an inventory of tbe 
personal efiects of the unhappy Queen Mary, 
which must have been left in tlie castle when sho 
was sent to Lochleven. This inventory contuna 
three sets of chessmen, and two works on the 
game. One set is described as " Ane i^uhite buist 
with chas men in personages of woid " — ■'. t. a 
white lioi with wooden chessmen. One of the 
books is intituled The play of the Chat, and was 

doubt Caxton's volume, then a comparatively 

Mi^ supposes it to have been known here about recent publication. That learned pedant James t 

the time of the Conquest, froni the Court of patronised chess. In a speech of his animadvert- 

Exchequer having been then first established, mg on some books written by Cowel and Black- 

Baines Harrington differs from this opinion, and wood, he says : f 

is in favour of a later date, but admits that the „-- ... i.,ui.j..,.i.,„i?IC 

,. , ■ '■.■■■Eiia^ "The power of kinin is in the hands of the Lord. S ^ 

game must have been brought to England at an They on e.Jt low thing, and ab»» high things, making 

••By penod of our histoiy, as no fewer than the Bnbjeeta like men m chess, a Pawn lo take a Bishop 

* "~ ' : English families have chess-boards I a KniKht." 




Tlie nnfortanate Cliailea L Wfts an ardent cbees- 
elftyer, and is mentioned in an old Eugluh truis- 
htion of Oieco'B work on the game in my 
powesnon as havinK com^antly used it aa a lecre- 
stion. There are in the Lil»ary of the Britisii 
UuMum some diaiiea kept by Gapt^n R. _Sj[~ 
monds, a royaliat officer, m one of which, it ifl 
stated—" Round about ye King'* chess-board thii 

• Subditns et priacepa ialis ane awigome certent' " 
The date 1043 is on the board, and the line con- 
tains, no doubt, touching allusion to the state of 

H. A. Kmmkdt. 

, JO doubt, touching allusion 

the poor king's own],fortuiie8. 

EldoQ Home, Besdiag. 

The date of the introductdon of chess into China 
seems to be very uncertsun. PSre du Halde, in 
his voluminous work on China, under the heading 
of " Extraits d'une Compilation faite sons la 
dynastie Ming, psr un lettrfi cflSbre de cette 
dynastie nomm^ Tang-King-Tcihaen," giTea the 
following : — 

" Un auteur parlant da jen dea rfcbees, qoi est le beau 
jen de la. Chine, dit cc qui suit :— Quelqnea geoi ant dit 
gae lejea des febcca veauit de I'Empereur i^ooietqueo* 
Prince TaToit iHTcal^ pour inetmire sau Gls daiu I'ut 
de gouvemer ies peuplai, et do fiiie la guare: mais 
rien de moins vraisemblaljlf ' . . -^ 

B pratique 



cipales, dout I'oxercice lui iwit aussi familier quo I'eit & 
tons lea homines I'usajKi iIm pieda et dea mains. Ce fUt 
la vertu et noQ tea armcs qu'il emploja pour r^nire lea 
peuplea les plua liarbarca. L'art de la guerre, dent le ~ 

una aujc autrea. I'uo emit bleu liloigne de donner a aon 
fila da pareillea lemons. Le jeu dea coheca n'a aans doule 
commence que depuia ccs tevos malheurani oil tout I'Eui- 
pire fut ddaold par ie» guenea. C'eat uue invention tria- 
peu digne du grand Yat>." — Detcrijitian de la Chine 
{i TOla. 4to. U HajQ, 173B), ii. 739. 

The Emperor Yao reigned in the traditional^ 

feriod about 2300 s.c. Ilis name in full n 
'■ang-ti Yau. 

The Ming dynasty, 3iEng-chaii, lasted from 
A.D. 1368 to 1044. 

The following anecdote concerning Mlng-tf, 
Kxth emperor of the Fe Sihig or ''Northern 
Sung" dynasty, has reference to this subject; — 

" One of bi9 liest offioerj, Wang-ldug-jTien, wished to 
retiis fhim conrt, nnt being able to sudure all the cmel- 
tlea wiiieb were daily committed. The emperor now 
began to fear for bia safety, and sent the cup with poison 
to tbis object of his suspicion, wLo at that time naa 

plavingat cbe», and 

ferenCB."— See the Re' . _ 
(a vols. 8™, London, ]834), 

The Emperor MinDi-tf reiirned from a.d. 465 
to 473. 

Respecting the modem game Sir John Davis 
says :■ 

"The Chinese chess differs in board, men, and moves 
from that of India, and cannot in any way be idantifled 

nitli it, except as being a earns of skiU and not </ 
cbamiar—Tlie CKutfK (edit. 1844), iL 3L 

Hbtxf W. Heiifbet. 
Markham House, Brighton. 



(4* S. TiL 76.) 

I beg to subjoin a printed description, published 

by Austin of Hertftnd, which I know to be cor- 
rect, though I difier from it in one part, believing 
that the ash and sycamore trees have grown from 
the seeds, the keys having ffdleo from the treea of 
the adjoining -warren (formerly the seat of General 
Sabine, governor of OibialtKr — the mansion taken 
down in 1807 by the then Earl Cowper), and 
grew from between the joints of the stone coping 
of the tomb ; being left undisturbed, in the course 
of years became the lofty trees they now are. If 
they bad spnmg from the vault, as suggested, 
made one hundred and uxty years, the girth c^ 
the trees would have been mudi larger than 
those of the present are. As an illustration of 
their probable origin, a few years since I pulled 
up a young sycamore that bad grown from be- 
tween tbo joints of the stonework round my 
father's grave, which lies under the shadow of the 
trees of the Grimstona' tomb. The great singu- 
larity consists in the lower part of the trees 
having become so amalgamatea together, that it 
is impossible to distinguish where the bark of the 
ash (lighter than the sycamore) ends, and that of 
the sycamore cf 


■ Msplflys one of the most extraordinary and romantic 
of those freaks in which it is proverbial that Dame Nature 
delights. Tbe masonry of the tomb — once Grmlv set, 
and bound with iron plus together— Li now disjointed and 
displaced, not by time or decay, but bj- the irreiiresaible 
growth of trees never planted by human hands. The 
appearance which the tomb presents is most singular. 
Within, and interlacing the iron railing surrouudiag tbe 
tomb, are seven ash trees, coBnecled at the root, and thm 
lyQimofes, aiio amiitcied at the root. These trees, ns they 
have daily grown, have heaved up the stonework of the 
tomb, forcing it outward for some distance, and entwined 

pletely imbedded and hidden in the trunks of the trees. 
The trees, at their base, also pass Ihrougli and clasp the 
stonework, aa though it were a mass of eartli. 

" It ia conjectured — and on no other suppodtion can 
these marvellous appearsncea be accounted for — that, at 
a period antecedent to the erection of the tomb, the seed* 
of the now full-grown treea must bave been deposited in 
the vault beneath; and there germinating, forced their 
way towards the light, silently and graduollv displacing 
tbe masonry above— and then embracing and supporting 
tbe tomb tbey bad disturbed. 

" Tba supnstilioua eredulilj of tbe neighbouring pea- 
santry of the last generation was naturally excitsd by 
appearances so unaetinl, and they have banded down a 
l^end to thair sons, in which it is sought to account ibr 

*»aVlI. Fw).Il,7L] 



omenoti. The story ia ■ limi^ ihm ; — It ii uid 
Ij Anna wui an unMllev«r, — to confldect in the 
d of Chriitiaait; aail of the Bible, that aht vas 
mat to uj that, ' if the Sacred Book were true, seven 
vh trees wonJd grow ont of her tomb.' The resolt, btI- 
diMIr — H in many similar caeei — gore riM to (A* Itgtitd. 
Whtuur I*d7 Anne were »o nnbeliaving »a is rapie- 
Mnted, m have no means of poaitiTelj iBcotaiiiiQ^, bat 
it ia rei7 unlikely ; and, in them days, we reqnure no 
mch aolntion of appearaitcea, which, however Dnosaal, 
we mre coDtent io regard aa beantlfhl iUiutrations of 
"Tbe firilowing inicnptioa ia atiU legibb so tb« 


D. D. HopJtnre, F.8.A. 

"Wist is really the tree, or what are the trees, 
which grow out of or about this gisTsF A. P. S. 
speaks of " one ash "; the Spiritval Timet Bpeaka 
of " Beven elms "; and the Flora SertfordiensU, a 
most trustwoTthj worii, aaya of the Aier pseudo- 

*• In Tewin churchyard are some gelf-sown trees, grow- 
ing in a very remarkable manner, around aod about tbe 
tomb of Lady Anne Urimslon, and haring in their growth 
dliplBced the mtaonry of the tomb and ironwork. 

The diecrepanciea in the legend given in these 
three accounts are equally striking. A. P. S. 
makes Lady Grimston s doubts refer to the eiist- 
ence of a future state, and representa her as es.- 
premog " a wish or prayer " that, if such existed, 
" & tree might grow out of her heart." The 
^riritaai Times states that she was an Atheiat, 
and that ** her last words were to the effect that, 
if God esiated, seven elm trees would stow out 
of her tombstone." The JWa, quoting the Ha^ 
ford Timet, saja that " Lady Anue was an unbe- 
lierer, and was wont to say that, if the Sacred 
Book were true, seven ash trees would btow out 
of het tomb." It may be difficult, though I hope 
not impoenble, to trace this "marvellous legend" 
lo its source, siid to ascertain which of the ahove 
vernoDS (if any) is correct ; but there can be no 
difficulty in determining whether one or seven 
trees grow there, and whether these are sycamores, 
■dies, or elms. Jaiies Bbtitbh. 

He additional statements respecting the tomb 
of Lady Anne Grimston are very curious. Perhapa 
for the Mke of clearing awny ueedlesa comments, 
it mBy be vrell to state that, in speaking of a single 
Mb tiee, I meant only to express what appeared 

to be tha fact, tiz. that the seven or nine stems 
(it is difficult to divide them accurately) seemed 
to spring bom a single root under the gravestone. 
If two af these sterna are not ash, but sycamore, 
then there must, of course, be two trees. 

I told the story of Lady Anne's belief or mis- 
faeUef as it was told to me, and do not profess 

Sor indeed ia it neeenary) to recondle it with 
e other part of the story. 
I may add, that I have since been informed by 
persons who know the naghbourhood well, that, 
M for &om having been an infidel, she was a 
devout charitable lady, given to good works. 
I^bably tliia can be easily substantiated. 

A. P. S. 
[We have reaaon to know that, besides her l^aciea to 
a church school, abundant evideoce exiBts of both the 
Cbriatiwi life Bad Chrinjan t*Hh of Lad; Anne Grim- 
Bton. The tradition ia do donbt one of a very common 
class of legends — namely, those invented to account for 
nnuaual phenomena. — £n. " N. & Q."} 

(4* S. viL 30.) 

employeJby Churchyard in, I believe, several of 
bia works, but certainly in bis C^i/j^ published in 
1575, Churchyard writes gaein, fraem, maed, 
blaete, gaet, viaek, loaer, htur, aaem, by simple 
transpoMtion of the finsl e, for game, frame, made, 
blaxe, &C., and also kaek for cake, and gaeg and 
raeg for gage and rage. The main diHereuce be- 
tween the spelling in these instances and in those 
&om Tyndale is, that the latter both interpolate 
e and preserve it as a final, e. g. yaeve, graeee, 
maede, JoeiU, taeke, &c. ; wliile we sli^o tind in Mr. 
Fet's list hoei and taeit, l!ut Churehyard as 
well as Tyndale modifies o into oe, anti so we 
have roet,cloes, boeia, ttoen, noet, emoek, for rote, 
clolhei, bones, *(0Be, note, smoke, and also hef, coeit, 
Hoed, poer, for loaf, coast, blood, poor. 

How far these peculiarities represent anything 
more than Churchyard'a own fandes, it may he 
difficult positively to say ; but that there was some 
method in the madness — if madneas it were — 
there can be but little doubt He certainly meant 
his spelling to be phonetic, and by writingalongi 
as ae, eeemsto have pretested against the assump- 
tion that the long English a of the ^xteenth ceo- 
tury was to be gener^y identified with the Con- 
tinental a of the same end of the present time. 

Mr. Ellis, in his very valuable treatiae on Earfy 
English Pronunciation, after a minute discussion of 
the authorities, comes to the condnHon that the 
long a of the sixteenth century was thea in father.. [ ,, 
This conclusion ia evidently incompatible with-,'^ 
Churchyard's practice. He no doubt meant to 
^Te to the 00 in gaen, &a., the sound which had 



belonged to ae, whether Latin or Early Engliah, 

from tune immemorial down to the niteenth 
centUTf, viz. that of u' in aim : a sound which, on 
the other hand, cannot well be separated, in earlj 
Eogliflh usage, from that of eo in great, which la 
doiibtlesa traditionaL Whether Churchjard, in 
thus pronouncing the words in quasUon, is to be 
consiaered as a conservator or an innovator, b of 
course a veiy interesting question, which, how- 
ever, it would take some time to discuss fully, 
especiallj as it opens out into others of great diffi- 
culty. These spellings from IVndale ofnftyyears 
before appear to be inteipretabfe on the same prin- 
ciple ; but then the admission of the prinianle 
invoWes this problem amongst other^ When did 
the French a, as in grace — which in all ^babilitr 
was pronounced in the thirteenth and fourteenth 

change into at, so as to justify TyndsJe's prom 
cintion = graice f The attempt to resolve this 
problem would necessarilv lead to some inresti- 

fUions of a very jgeneral tendency manifest in 
rench, and especially in dialectic French ; to 
change the a into the at sound, as when amare 
becomes aimer, Acer aigre, &c. ; and in patois, has 
appears bail, egiix6 as egairi, bague as iaigue, 
courage as couraige, &c. Such inquiries, how- 
ever, we cannot now pursue. It is to be regretted 
that Mt. Ellis did not handle Churchyard's 
phooetic spelling. J. Pajub, 

Kildue Gaidens. 

"Times Whistle," etc (4"' 8. vii. 97.)— In 

reply to Mk. Cowpek's first query let me offer the 
following : — 

" A QiiTifr to a King ; or Doctonr Cnrrier (ChaplajTie 
to P. James of happy Memory), hla Moliuw for re- 
nouDciitg the Protestaiit ReligioD and persnading to Re- 
vnion with the Cith.-Homan. Directed to hi« Sacred 
Maiestie. ■ Mj hut is EddyCing a good matter : 1 tell 
mv deeds vnlo the, KiDg.' Pa. itXiy."—Fermut» Siok- 
riontm, 1G33. 

My little book is a reprint of the original " Mis- 
uue " dated from Liege, 1613, and embodied in 

" An ansvera to a Treatise vrittcn hj Dr. Cirler, by 
WSJ uf Letter to his Haiestie, wherein he lafelh doirn 
Sundry Polltike Considerations Pretending himselfe and 
Endpsvouring to move others to be reconciled to the 
Church of Rome, bv G. HafcewU, Chaplain to Prince 
James." Lond.: BUI, 1616, 4lo. 

Dr. Carrier in this book relates how strictly he 

was brought up in the reformed reli^on ; how he 
came to have his misgivings as to its being the 
true church, and finally, notwithstanding the 
prospect of " higher ecclesiastical dignities," he 
took the advantage of going over to Rome while 
abroad upon sick -certificate. His admission that 
"t)ie more I laboured to reconcile the religion of 
Eoglaod' to Scripture and the Fathers, the more 
I waa disliked, suspected, and condemned as a 

much promotion, but which clearly identifiea him 
as the Whiale'a covert papist. Dr. C. labours (« 
excuse himself to King James, and perhaps know- 
ing that his sacred majesty and some atwut him 
were inrlining that way, tries to wheedle the 
British Solomon into following his example, and 
so to put down ichiame and all its attendant evils. 
Carrier is of opinion that there is very little dif- 
ference between the Mass Book and the Anglican 
IJturgy, and thinks the matter might he easily 
adjusted if the Puritans and Calvinistswere tooed 
overboard. At page 136 of edit 163S he goes so 
far as to intimato that he is authorised by some 
of the greatest to say that if James would acknow- 
ledge the Pope, that the latter would meet him 
liberally bv conforming the interest of incumbents 
in their cbuxcb livings, and fturther permit tha 
free use of the Common Prayer in England with 
very little or no alteration. Here again the 
WhitUe evidently alludes to our Carrier j for the 
accomplishment of such ends as he had in view 
would doubtless have entitled the pervert to a red 
hat and stockings. A. G, 

Hair qbowiso lttsb. DBiTK (l"* S, vi. 624; 
vii. G6, 83.) — This phenomenon may aafely be 
placed in the same limbo with the living toada 
found in the middle of marble blocks, the sbowera 
of live frogs, the sea-serpent, old Jenkins, and 
the Wandering Jew. New animal tissues can 
only be formed out of the blood, and ao soon as 
this blood ceases to live and drculat& all inter- 
change of material throughout the body must 
ceaee too. Hair can form no exception to this 
rule, aod its growth after death is as impoauble 
as the growth of new bone or new flash. 

It is astonishing bow people fond of marveb 
are willing to dispense with evidence. Li tha 
case mentioned by the old gentleman at Turvey, 
not a shadow of proof is offered of the mass of 
hair found in the lady's coffin having grown after 
death. Why assume thisP Why should she not 
have had long hwr during life P 

Hawthorne s story of a woman's whole body 
being changed into hair is too absurd to be re- 

Mb. Mayeb will observe that in the case oC 
Charles I. no growth of hair is reported ; but then 
this body was examined by a man who understood 
the common laws of physiology. In the case of 
the young man drowned at Whitby we are ex- 
pected to believe that the htur of a corpse grew in 
two or three days as much as itwould have grown 
in as many months during life. Probably the 
mbtake arose from the fact of the young man's 
hair being more or less curly, and by immersion 
in the water it became straightened out, and thus 
appeared to have gained in length, The iade~ 
tlriictibility o( hair Mr. Mates must see to be 

4* 3. VII. Fib. 11, 71.] 



quite BDotlier qnestioi), utterly UDComiected witli 
poit-mortem growth, J. Daav. 

Aleimder Rowland, of "Maessew" celebrity, 
eivea aevenil uutances nf the iDdeatmctibilitj of 
bur, ud the grrowtlt of it and the naiU after 
death, in his curious treatiBe, 

"The Human Hair, Popularly and Physiologically 
CoDsiderad, Ac" With aevenllluAiations, 8vi>, Loudan, 

The labject is alao elahondely discussed in — 

"L-C. F. Gurnanul, &c.. Do Mincnlii Mortuoram, 
qaibos pmnisu diamUiUo de Cadavan «t Hitaculia in 
cenere," 4to, Dresden, 1703." 

WiLLiuc Bazk. 

EiSTBtts Stobt C4<* S. Tii. 12.)— The stoiy 
will be found in Madfime de Oenlis' Taletofthe 
Cariie, or in her Takt of the Oenit, I foiwt 
which. These tales are among the few that 
clianued oi ' " " 

Wae MBI.ALS (4"" 8. Tii. 13.) — When the 
Feninaular medals were issued in 1818 six sur- 
TiTOrt of the war were able to make good theii 
claims to fifteen bars or clasps. One of these 
medab is m a well-known priTate collection. The 
gold cross worn hy the late Duke of Wellingtou 
Bad nine clasps. J. W. F. 


The late Captain Baldwin, who resided for 
tnany years in Caaadl, receiyed the war medal 
with fourteen clasps for his services in Spwn and 
fYance during the Duke's campwgns. This num- 
ber of clasps was always said to have been the 
largest amount ever obtained by valour. Comey 
Woods, the keeper of the Raguat Court at Hali- 
fax, N. S., receiyed the Peninsular medal with 
thirteen clasps. Woods obtained two medals for 
distiagoislied service in the field. Comay always 
complained that the Horse Quards had omitted 
to give him the fourteenth clasp. Woods' regi- 
ment waa the gallant 62nd, the Oxfordshire Light 
In&ntry, which was many years quartered in 
Nora ^tia with the Rifle Brigade j and Qenerals 
l^braham, Norcott, StreatGeld, Sit R. King, 
and many others may still remember the jolly, 
fighting, private Comey Woods, bound to com- 
memorate every anniyersary of his general actions. 
Isaac Sheabes. 


Ait ctbditbd Elesy bt Olivbr GfoLDSXiTB 

erf mine on a certain occasion. I was calling the 
attention of an author of well-deserved eminence 
to one of his early productions, which he had not 
seen for a considerable lapse of time. "Good 
God ! " he exclflimed, starting back in horror, " is 
it pouible that I could ever have perpetrated 

each detestable trash as that t" On which a cri- 
tical friend, who happened to be by, observed to 
him with admirable gravity, " My dear sir, it is 
not to tell how badly a man may write, if be will 
only thoroughly give himself up to it" That the 
author of the elegy referred to " had thoroughly 
pyen himself up to it," there can be no question, 
and as little, that if written by an Oliver Qold- 
smith — and it is known that there were more than 
one — he could not be that one whose poetry 
afiords ua from youth upwards such exquisite 

To criticise snch a production would be simply 
absurd. Let it only be remembered that in 1770 
Goldsmith was in the full perfection of his powers, 
and that though sometimes a careless .writer of 
prose, be was, in componng poetry, ever mindful 
of his fame. Eia poedcel modut operandi was 
indeed slow and elaborate, and it was in reference 
to bis complaint of the superior rapidity with 
which Churchhill and some other of nis contem- 
poraries threw off their more numerous composi- 
tions in yers& that Dr. Johnson is reported to 
have said to him — and I give the remark the 
rather because it is not to be found in Boswell — 
" Sir, you must always remember that between 
things absolutely different in degree there can be 
no approximation by numbers, and that even in 
lyhat can be reduced to numerical equality it 
kokes 1003 farthings to make one guinea. 

Jas. Crosslet. 

AsHBtmsEHS OF FuRSESS (4" 8. vi. 411, 682.) 

The following paragraph ajipeared in the Uliierdott 

Advertuer {Jfia. 5, I87I) m reference to a que^ 

propounded by Mr. T. Hblsby: — 

" With regard to the parattraph fram A'ntei and Qaeria 
as to the ' Athbutuers of Furneu,' we arc iaformed in 
lererence to query 6, that the Rev. William Asbbarner 
was a son of George Astibumer, of Scfllc^ and that be 
was baptised at Aldiugham Church on January 5, 1763; 
his father, George Aabburuer (md of Jobu Ashbumer, of 
Aldiogham), wae baptised at the same church on JuUB 13, 
J73I. A heidttoae, nowatandioe in Aldin^'bam Church- 
yard, was erected by the Bev. W. A»hbnrner, and bears 
the followiuf- recOTda:— (leorgo Aabbarner (his brother, 
who was a eiitioner in Ulverstou), died ApHl 12, IS'ii 
aged 61 veari. Isabella Ashbomer (his mother) died 
February 10, 1780, aged 48 yeirs. George Ashbumer, of 
Scales (bis father), died December 2. 1SD3, a|;cd 72 years. 
William Ashbumer (his nucle), died February 20. IS13, 
aged 73 years. John Ashburaer (hia brother) died 
July 17. 1H23, sgt-d 63 years. We have reason to beheve 
that the ancestry can i>e further traced should the above 
not suffice. We are indebted to Mr. John Aahbumer, of 
Scales (who is a relative of the reverend gentleman re- 
ferred to), for the above iufonnation," 

J. P. Morris. 


Shropshire Satwos (4"" S. vii. 9.) — I have 
never heard more than two of the Shropshire say- 
ings mentioned by Mb. Undebhiu- " All on - 
one side, like Bridgnorth election," is a common 
illustration to the present day; and all public 




dinners in tiie coimtj wind np with tbe tout, 
« To all friends round tbe mekin." Thara is 
enotber Shropehire toast, too, which I hare heud : 
"The Hills of Shropsliiro— may they be as over- 
lasting as the Shropshire hills." And one day, 
witneeeing a ploug:hing match at EUennere, I 
heard one ruatjc urging another to go a little 
fiuter with his plough. " Houd thee uize," was 
tlie reply ; " the ground's as rough as Sabliy's 
'ood gorst" Babin'a Wood is a well-known 
locali^ in nortb-eaat Shropshire, hut I uoTer 
heard that the gone there was rougher than in 
other places. A. R. 


" Ha smiles like a bundle of chips " was a rery 
common saying in south-east Cornwall from thir^ 
to for^ yeara ago. The words "under a dog^ 
aim " were not unfrequently added to it. 

Wm. Pzkoellt. 


Cobblers' Lahfs is Itait (4'* S. yii. 11.) — 
SimUar glass globes, filled with water, are used 
by woo£«ngmvers and micioscopists, and their 
effect is to concentrate the light upon tbe object 
looked at. J. T.T. 

N. Kebey, Brigg. 

The women in Northamptonshire and BucMng- 
hamshire formerly used, and probably still use, 
the glass globe of water with a candle in making, 
pillow-lace, the object of which is to increase the 
light on their work, as the light of the candle, 
peaung through the globe of water, mi^:nifies the 
ught in the same way as pasang through a mag- 
nifTing lens. Uei^ky T. Waie. 


Thb BnoxBus and Scakcs (4'" S. vi. 6Si.}— 
May I quote Martial in connection with the notice 
fa) Eboracuu P In epigram Kiii. 80, he saya- 
nrii lata genit patella Rbombam : 
""u UUor eat tamea pstella." 

It appears to me that this diatichon points 
cleBrly to the turbot The scarus is not so eo^lv 
identified ; it is generally translated char, whiui 
delidous lit^e fisn (a celestial trout) the Ramans 

S'obabb' put into Windermere and Coniston Lake. 
harofWbdermere I have been fortunate enough 
to eat at Wordsworth's breakfast table : FerffUium 
tantunt vidi. But the char does not answer at all 
to Martial's 8carua(3i)L 84) : 

" Hlc Kama, cqnoreis qui Tenit obesos ab nndla, 

TiBoeribus bomu eat, ccten vile mpiL" 
Pliny (whom I have not at hand) also some- 
where mentions the scarus as famed for its liver. 
Hence it cannot be the char, whose liverbnothing 
remarkable, while all its flesh is delidous. Could 
it be the red mullet, the "woodcock of ocean " f 


WuLrauBA (4"' S. »ii. IS.)— Bugdale (vol vi. 
p. 144) gjves tjte data of the foundation of her 

lastery 996. Ethelred's riater at that tima 
might have been thirty-two yean old. 


" til moriem Tiveret, visit nt moritnrna," 
to be found in the Testamenlum sine praparalio 
ad Mortem of Cardinal Bona* — a document which 
contains many noble sentimenta eloquently ex- 
pressed. The words " et cupio antd mortem ma- 
tnre mori, ne moriar in etentnm " conclude '% 
striking paragraph on the fear of deatL 

JoEM Eiioi HosoKHT. 
West Derby. 

A Bill actuallt fbesentes (4*^ 5. vii. 33.) 

I was surprised to see this new verwon of an old. 

joke; for certainly I have long known a similar 

" carpenter's bill, but never believed that it was 

actually presented. The form in which it has 

long been familiar to me is the following : — 

2 nuhogtmy boxes - . . . 14 

1 wooden do . . .070 

I wood lio .070 

I have also a chimney-sweep's hill and a brick- 
layer's bill, still more orinnal and puzzling; but 
I cannot affirm that dtiier have neen actually 
presented. F. C. H. 

Leioh Hcirr's "Leistibk Houbs nr Tows" 
(4'" S. vii. 26.) — I have as full an acquaintance 
with the writings of Leigh Hunt as most people, 
but I never met with a volume bearing the above 
title. Probably the volumes on 2a« Old Court 
Sabtai are Ihoae wanted by the Cambridge Uni- 
veraty Union Society. G, J. Db WmiB. 

Thb Ftvb " Thikd-Poimted " Spibbs (4*'' 8. 
vii. 35.) — The spires inquired after are no doubt 
the five ennmetateiin A I£andbook of Eccleiiology, 
published in 1847 by the Eccleaiolo^cal Society 
as the only broach spires of " third-pointed " date. 
They are S. Peter Stanion, Northamptonshire; 
S. Alkmund, Shrewsbury; S. Mary, Hartfield, 
Sussex ; AH Sunts, Kingston ; Seymour, Somer- 
set; S. Maiy, Brampton, Northamptonshire. To 
these I can add a uxth, viz. Upton, Huntingdon- 
shire. This is a very curious eiample, and until 
eianiined dosely seems to be of much earlier date. 
When I saw it about a year ago it was in a very 
dangerous state, the tower below it having given 
way; but I behave it has since been made aE&. 


Macduit, THAira of Fife (4* 8. vi. 276, 869, 
4470 — Mary de Monthermer, wife of the eleventh 
Earl of Fih, was bom at Marlborough Castle in 
1297, and married in 1307. Joan de Clare was 

■ Optra Antvtrpi*, 1677, fol. p. 980. 

4*3.VII. F«fl.ll,'71.] 


boni about 1265-70, and manied before 1390. She 
«as therefore in all probability the wife of the 
tenth earL Was ehe uie mother of hia aucceasor, 
at bad be more wires than one t^ The two dis- 
inherited daug-hters of Gilbert, Earl of Glouceater, 
and Alice de La Maiche (of whom Joan was the 
Toooger) have never ^ et, bo &r bb I know, been 
Tecogoiaed in anj printed work. Their hatf-eis- 
tm, thedanghtera of Jnanof Acrea, completely 
eclipsed them. It would be interesting to ascer- 
tain whether they both left iaBDO. 


BabiB8' Bells (4"' S. yi. 475; vii, 21.} — At 
the latter of the above references a correspondent 
asks for the author of theae lines : — 

" What ails my babe, my svrat-bced bibe, U> cry ? ■ 
Look, look, irhat's here 1 A diinty goldea thing : 
Se« bow the daodng bells turn round, and ring 
To please my bantling ! " 

Ther were written by Francis Quailes (bom 
1502, died 1644), and occur in his fmAfnn*, book ii. . 
No. 6, " Venus and Dirine Cupidt" 

Qnailea deserves to be more generally read. 
Hifl quwnt style, wit, and uncommon turns of 
thought would make him a favourite, even with 
tbooe who may not be touched with his deep and 
practical pie^. Although a puritan in his reli- 

K' m, he was » zealous royalist in politics, and 
ring joined the Iring'a party at Oxford, the 
whole ctf his property, including hia books and 
HSS., were sequestrated by the parliament. The 
loss of these last prevcd so much upon his spirits 
as fo hasten hia deatS. He was educated at Chi' 
College, Cambridge, and amongst other po 
which bo successively filled was that of " Ch- 
nologer to the City of London." What 
duties of this ameer, and ia any such 

[QnarleH was appoinUd Cfaronologer. at the request of 
lite Earl of Dorset, in 1639. The duties of the office, 
which bad previouslv been held by Ben Joaeon, consisted 
dilefly in providing pageants for the lord mayor, and the 
ntDiiil aalarr irasSSf. 6i. Bd, — equal to about a hondred 


e the advice so ofl*n give 

(4 the usual shape, with' gold or gilt mounting 
and bells. 

So that J. C. J.'s date ie carried back 146 years. 
HEinir H. Gibbs. 

Wsoire Dates nr cebtuit BioanAPHiEa (4" 
S. ri. 410; vii. 46, SO.) —It b perhaps scarce 
wortli while to refer to this matter again ; but as 
we have ^ready shown that Pr. Rooebs had no 
pounds for affirminpr the eziatence of an error in 
Mr edition of the Ettrick Shepherd's works, so 

»j^aink a few words will sfiow that he had , „dintricate.that every one ,hen he heard the na 
^wise no eicuse. He speaks m if the part he | g^ „f ^ ,f xticydides or Mybiu^ or a 
ind his hands on con tamed the Shepherd a aulti- aftba dayaofCato orTacltuB, might be able to 
laoginphy and nothing else of a bio^pbical cha- ' clear and adeqi " " 

psffes of the autobiography, and immediately pra- 
ce£ng them the last forty pagas of the memoir 
by ill. ThomaoD. So that Bb. Bosess could not 
have been i^orant of the existence of Mr. Thom- 
son's memoir — and indeed admits that he vras not 
BO — but "concluded" that the same statement 
alone would " likely " be contained in it as in 
tbe autobiography. If such grounds as theae are 
to be considered as sufficient justificati(m for 
writing to " N. & Q." we deeply aympathise with 
the editor. Blacstb & Soir. 


" Thib bak Night, teis bait Nioht " (4* 8. 
ri. 603.)— The Lyke Wake dii^ which appeared 
in these columns is printed in Sir W. Scott'd 
Moutreiiff of iha Scottuh Border. In the prefac» 
to it the following beautiful passage is quoted au 
of the Russian Burial Service : — 

" Hut fbon pitied the afflicted, man } In death 
■halt thou be pitied. Heat thou consoled the orphan ! 
liiB orphan will deliver thea. Hast thou clothed Iha 
naked P The naked will procure thee proUction." — 
Richaideon'a Antodoif of Jbuiio. 

Sir Walter Scott goea on to aay, " The most 
minute description of the Brig' o' Dread occurs in 
the legend of Sir Owain," &Q. B. C. G. 

The Advbkt Htmk (4'" S. vi. 112 ; vii. 41.)— 
What combination of sounds goes to make vul- 
garity P I understand the adjective " vulgar " as 
applied to a man, a speech, an anecdote, &c., but 
aa applied to a tune I do not, and I never could 
do. Any tur may of course have vulgar associa- 
tions vritn it in the miuda of particular persons, 
but how can that make the tune vulgarP laekthis 
question the rather, because the particular tune in 
question, poor " Helmsley," which just now ap- 
pears to have no friends, has alwavs seemed to 
my nnaophisticated ears so aingularly appropriate 
to the words of the Advent Hymn, that it vexes 
me to hear it sung to any other. Perhaps yoa 
will admit one voice in its favour, since there 
have been so many against it. IlBBiiKHTBnDE. 



The Hatorji of Rome. Bji Wilhclm Ihne. EngtithEdi- 
Hoa. (Longmans.) 

Ihne, from the volumes before us, would appear. 

distance, tlie ci 

i] and exhitutive method of Niebohr 

,. ^ down to the deductions and theories 

that great philoloKi»t. "Would that I could write his- 
rj 80 vividly that I could 90 discriminate what is.flac- 
■finir unA uncertain, and so develop what is conftiaed 

- - "^ . ....•:....,. Bof, 


[^fS-VII. Feb. 11,71. 

jnebnhr, and ft wu Dndoabt«dlj adtnirsUcm at th« 
Tue udIod of SDch powers wichTut iearniafc in him, 
that imposed that " willing bondatce " to vhicb to many 
■abmitted, bat irbich, u time adTineed, required that 
that wJH connael ihoold be given. Herr Ibne mndeitlj 
Matei tbat, had tbe life of Arnold, to whose memory he 
paTS a ftding and graceful tribute, been spared, and thus 
the completion of hie ifulnry n/ Anw effecUd. in all pro- 
bability be would never have undertaken his present 
work. It teems to as, however, that hud such been, for- 
tanatelv for all, the case, there would have been Mill an 
«qnil call fbr Herr Ihne's labour, our stock of kaowledga 
receiving daily snch vast acceeaioas — tbe resnlt of re- 
■earch tbat appaars to grow more vigorous tbe more it is 
pursued — as to render necessary tbe continued rewriting 
of history under " the light of pregent biatorisal science." 
Commenciaf; from the rrgal period, oar author has car- 
ried on his history, in the present volumes, to tbe end of 
the second Pnnio war— the period embraced by Arnold 
— and proved himself no mean possessor of our idiom, for 
hla volumes are not a mere translation fmrn the German, 
but have b«en rewritten by him in Englieh. 
SpaiiiA Thtmii and Spanah PictHra. By Mrs. W. A- 
Tollemacha. (Hayes.) 

Though Che object of Mm. Tollemacbe's visit to Spain 
appears to have been the atudv of Spanish Art, on which 
we have a good deal of pleaeaiit gossip in the work before 
ns, tbe book contains numerous fragments of English. 
Spanish, and legendary history, which giva variety and 
additional interest to iL As owing to the state of the 
Continent and tbe recent changes in Spain, travellcra are 
likely to direct their steps in that direction during the 
next migration of wandering Eogllshmen and English- 
women, we commend the book before us to all anch. not 
as a substitute for, but as a companion to. Ford's ad- 
mirable Handbook. 

Elementary Trtatitt on Nahtral PhUotopliy. Bi/ Pro- 
fessor A. Privst Descbanel, of Paris. TrantlaUd and 
edittd, a^ilh Exttniire Additinni, tjr Professor Everett, 
D.C.L, of Belfait. In Four Partt. PaH I. Mecianic,, 
Hydtostativi, and Pneitntotic*^ Jlliutrattd by nitrntroat 
Eagriwingt. (Biackie.) 

The important poaii ion which physical science has now 
taken in public ednration has induced the pntiMshers of 
tbe work before us, which, soon after the publication bv 
Professor Descbanel, was adopted by the Minister of In- 
struction in France as the text-book for government 
Bchoota, to invite Professor Everett to prodace an English 
edition of it—and be tells us, that he was only hiduced 
to do so after finding it was better adapted to the requlre- 
menta of Ma class than any aimllar treatise with wliich 
ha was acquainted. But ll~ is not a mete translation ; it 
has ncelved manv and very important additions at tbe 
bands of tbe traoalntor. 


Ibe title oF a work reported to be in course of preparation 
by the Hon. Mrs. Norton. 

RiicnESTEtt Castle. — The corporation of Rochester, 
having secured from tbe Earl of Jersey a lease of Roches- 
ter Castle and grounds, are about to cupend 2,(M)0i. 
or more in laying ont the latter, thereby effecting a great 
public improvement. This scheme will doubtless com- 
mend itself to all antinuaries, as tending to preserve tbe 
noblest castle keep in England. 

E Charles Dicke>s. — Messrs. Chapman b 

HaU, it 

e Pfop™ 

__. .. f copyrights of the works of Mr. Dit 

A bust of tbe lat« novelist has juat been completed by 

Mr. W. F. WoodiDgton. 

Loan Pilkbrstdn's Vtsm to Pabis in 1814 axd 
181G.— Tha Diary kept by Lord Pabnentoo on these 
visits will. It la said, form a separate publlcatiou, it being 
found tiw lone fbr insertion, as originally inteaded, £ 
The Tcmplt Bar Sfagoxint. 

ROTAL Albert Haix. — We anderstand that, atth« 
ceremony of opening the Hall by the Queen ou the 29th 
of March, an officially reserved free seat will ba offered 
to the Uavor, Provost, or Bailiff of every place in tha 
United Kingdom which paid IWH. and upwards to tha 
- ibscriptlou fond of tha Exhibition of 18&I. 


'uted br W. Sarditie. £I?..I. 



^ J. S. Horn. ^^1^^^ 


. Jut* JFUWH 


fiotEcctf is aarrcidpotitttnU. 

"How WE nno 


Gooi> Newb to Ghent." 

Tho't i, ™ hiilo 

r.W found 

art™ for ihii poem. Ste 





an annoviag and peniittnt 

f>M/e ToluHie (aali, 

our aalio: 

of Mr. Mayor: MereHing 

p. lU), th 

,„bject of the book i> ni*. 

caUtd Borwicte. 

Zeta (Andover 

win find. 

bg referring to our 

Sr.— The avlhm 

of The World of Matter diid two or 



ro nisi Serenas," 


hut it, origin. «'hich hat been 

S. W. T. mil find anoteonlht word " High-faluten " at 
p. 478 of oar lait v<A<imt. 

SCOTTIBH Mdsic— L. T. A. Kill fitd the irininaU of 
malt of Iht popular ScoIIuA atra traced in ChappdCt 
Music oftbe Olden Time. 

T. C.— We have a letter for thii genealogieal qutrat. 
Whithtrthall -- '- -'-■•■' 






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KOna:-Mi»l Til«riHi, lW-Hlltoii'a "BiTan ui»," 
Is, US — Tbe Bmr. Hwrrfrucis CU7, li. — Witohe* la 
li^and. (A.— The MvuiIbs of "Honilair. HonriHr"— 
BHT-^tinc— ObW* aod Sir Gilbart TalbM Id Kit — 
Cnriaoa Fi«eiinora of tbe Freteoikir — HM*«a Lrt"" 
-'Vw-BttOt tn-ThllF* -«rtoc7 of tba VIrFinta 

"Queen Ait - -- -j 

WmiiBpen— B.!". Bontniftan — OilTia and a 

» Tlimri riitnTiiin MrTimtnrr "ririiiim m 
_. .# w-_.— n, jinj^ Dowolps— Corrupt Eofi- 
irntt: "TrnEnmrDTDo — BrelJIi*! " DiuT " — QoiH tnd 
fluiBt — Htmror Hvtnp — Ahaodcr J*m(nni. H.A. 

— Portrait of Jabn Kar — ^ Bunuel Lukg'a Latter Book 

— Paut of lbs N>(1v1(t — NuDiiimUic— "PalBOlogia 
t*roiii<!«" — Th« Piano — Print-d««lB™' Caialoeo™ — 
Bood BfTasni In Buffolk Churches — Beautj Sleep -' 
Jemnr Tvlor — ' The Seven Wonders of Wiles," 140. 

BBPLIBS: — Pedigree of B. B. Hajdoc tha Hlatorieal 

— ■ - - ■. m„ a . m Imporial Letter. '" 


- HenMii:. 1*9 - 

n. itT- 

BmeD ^hil'liag Piaoea if Cliarlei L - Danar 

BenioT — The eiran Bong ofParwin Arerr— "The UaaT- 
fog of tbe taad" — Birk™»ton —Gun — The DldaaHc 
PDetrjDftMlT— -BuiboemcHi debet," Ac.— La Cara- 
tide — "It'i abrCry loLooh Awe" — Indejes: "Eu«h- 
voiih'B HIMoriaal Colleottont" — Kej to " Lo Grand 
Qmn"— WeaTeT*! Art— Female Baint — "The Prodigal 
Boo " — Cannon —BenJ. Carrier— ■' Tha Adoration of tha 

TVlo hoa not besid of Uoiit VaUriea, tke 
tswering f^iuit of tbe Seioe, and tutelary geniiu 
of tbe proud city at its foot P — 

" Qn& [ortnods Sbijuasa' uxostun loaaiu 
£grfa urget nndu vallibas, itat irdoo 
Arz niontu spice: qnm loci Ingenio, at maun 
Wnnita, sspe ruit boatilea mluaa \ 
Fullqae belli longs prseentii mora." 

JoaOD. Conunuil Carmna. Farii, 1701, p. 17 

The sbBtegwl iiaportAiiM of thia mKrmed 
catadel invesla ite aite with a present inteiest, 
«oine portion of -ffitioh naj seem to b« reflected 
OQ a umMr Mkd fin^otten phue of its history. 

The modem Pariaiui or ordioaiy tourict 
kwMTB Maat V«Idri«i bat as ft fbrt And a beovuk ; 
Minaoioaa wilJi caanoa and populoBs with 
Mldieiy; prompt for the defenee, or it Butybe 
for the attack, of the fickle and tuuuly miUaos 
hiwMth itssiiadow. 

Bnt tbe stndent of religioun history sew 
ytiUnea uadar aw^er aspect. He thinks of it 
as the <s«wbile reteeat of tbe hdy hermit ; an 
object of pious julgiinage ; a mimic yet adoraUe 
Calvuy; or, paiabaiice, in a more degenerate 

' J alionld IW to be '""""^ bj- the off^aded dude of 
tb« lAtJD poet If I failed to oontoa that it is I alone irbo 
■M T^mwiUe tbr the jntrodnction iota hla Brat iambic 
tr tbe la««wlwlUi da«^l "Seasm," instand of tbe 
MtaBch *■ Imm," irUcbu AtBiid hi tba •ligiaal. 

time, as a scene of licentious profligacv, whudi 
recalls the DionysiA of the elder world, or tb« 
nocturnal love-feasts of modem BeviTaliam. 

We learn from Pierre d'Orgemont, a former 
bisbop of Paris, that in the year 14(X) and tha 
reign of Cbarles de Valois there was already a 
bermitage on Mont ValSrien, and that a penitent 
named Anthoine occupied a cell of narrow Ikoitl 
constructed on the spot This was destroyed in 
tie time of the civil wars between the Dukes of 
Orleans and Burgundy, and the hermitage of 
Saint Saviour built on tbe summit of the mount. 
This bad for occupant Sister GuiUemette Faussart, 
a native of Paris, who, in the reign of Henry IL, 
and assisted by the coatribudons of Henry Guyot 
and Oilies Marline, built tbe chapel of Samt 
Saviour, and a coll of ample dimensions, as an 

It is related of this holy personage, that, after 
ber nightly prayers, she occupied herself b csrv- 
ing water from the foot to the summit of tne 
mount. This she did in sucb quantities that it 
sufficed the masons, engaged in the construction 
of the chapel, for tbe entire day, and waa tluu 
regarded as a miracle. She pr&ctiaed the most 
rigid austerities ; ate little but bread and water ; 
t^ng, indeed, little else to support life but the 
Ho^ Communion. (Vari^Ut hitti>nques,pJ^mquet, 
HhtUrairta, Pais,1752, tcm-iii. partie i. p.iri) 
After five years of fasting and penitence Sistet 
Ouillemette died suddenly, in the year 1661, in 
the odour of sanctity, and was buried at the 
entrance of tbe chapel of tbe hermitage wbioh. 
had been built under her auroices. 

The Buccesaor to this holy lady was Jean Hou^ 
set, the third anchoret of Mont Val^rien. He 
had been a retainer of Henri Guyot, to iriiom, 
and other charitable persona, be was indebted for 
his support He occupied the hermitage for the 
long period of forty-mx years, at tbe end of wbicb 
time, on August 3, IGOO, be closed a life of 
austerity and edification, and was buried by tbe 
ade of Sister GuiUemette, hia predecessor, in pre- 
sence of the clergy, many noblemen, and a Test 
couconrse of spectators. 

It b to this pious man that Ratiul Boutraya, 
better known under hia Latinised name of Ko- 
dolpbna Botereius, refers in tbe following not 
very elegant hexameters : — 

" Iramlaet Atbaiio prapi rertioe TAiAema Koas. 
IbcIdbI apdnnea aanis qui limea Eremi 
Sex propi abhinc InHrii non exit, ille vetnatot 
£gypti Patm, SviiKqae harraitbi adeeqiut. 
QwiUs erst nigro ^ol pastu ab tlite Paoliu, 
Hjnataqae Inijm tanien, qni AstaDloa bans, 
fortunate eenaz, ipii annuna ji ro^ jaeentea 
Despicii nrbis opea, et vers deapleu, nrba iM 
Magna tibt, H<his exljjuaa, Pravlncia et iiigens 
Bcniptaque in bortcnti defoasa ergaatula aaxo." 

LmUtia, Sto, PariaUa, 18R. - 

' The next and fourth tenant of the hermit^s cell 
WBsSdraphin de U Nou^, a Parisian, who waa 


t** 8. TIL Fib. 18, 7t, 

j^ced in poBMssioii by the Abb4 of St Denis and 
Henry de Oondj, Caidinal de Rett, August 8, 
1008. He wu Bupported in the soUtarj practiea 
of pietf and atuteritT by: he celebrated and 
lovely Marguerite de Valoie, first wife of Henry of 
Navarre, and last princes* of Her illustrious house. 

By some one of these hermits three lof^ crosses 
lUKLbeen erected on the sammit of their mount 
These, from their elevated position, weie seen 
from afar, and recalled to the pious spectator the 
Calvary of old, where his Savioar had suilered 
between the hardened and tbe repentant tbiet 
Struck by the similitude, ■ priest and licentiate 
of the Sorbonne, Hubert Cbarpentier, oouceivad 
the idea of establishing on Mont Val6rien a com- 
munity of priests and religious men for the main- 
tenance and exercise of the worship of the Gross, 
umilar to one which he had previously founded 
on Mount Betharam in B^arn, and a. second at 
N6tre Bame de Ganuson, in the diocese of Auch. 
The king, Louis XIU., favoured the scheme with 
luB approbataoQ ; and Richelien, who hsd a splen- 
did seat at Ruel, bard by, promoted it by his 
liberality. The congregation of the Calvary con- 
aisted of thirteen priests, of whom the founder, 
Cbarpentier, was the first superior. Thisemineut 
man, who had been the intimate friend of the 
Abb^ de Saint Cynin, and the solitaries of Port 
Royal died in 1&50, in the very year in which 
Louis XIV. confirmed the letters- patent given by 
his father, permitting the community to build 
the church of the Holy Croes, and a convent for 
the accommodation of the ministering nriesta and 
other persons of piety who might be aesirous of 
leading a life of edification therein. 

The nligious teal which bad animated Char- 
pentier does not appear to have been participated 
Ij the confratermty, and ten years later the 
number bad dwindled to two, who lingered on 
.till 1663, when they sold their commonalty to the 
Jacobins of the Rue Sunt-Honord, an example 
which the hermits, tired also of their life of soli- 
tude and aosterity, lost no time in following. 

These baigaiuB, however, found no favour vitb 
the chapter of the cathedrsl of Paris, who en- 
daavonred to prevent them taking effect bv de- 
spatching another relay of priests to t^eabanaoned 
mount. Hence a collision between the two bodies. 
The Jacobins, arriving to take possesion of their 
acquisition, found another party in possession, and 
laid regular siege to the mount The good folba 
of the neighbouring villages took one or the other 
mde; a baJcer was killed i others were wounded; 
the Jacobins remaining masters of the situation. 
The affair, however, had made considerable noise ; 
the king ordered an investigation, and this resulted 
in a decree by which the disputed property was 
iMtored to its original poswasors. Sainte-Foix 
givea Ml detiuls in his Euau tur iVii, and a 
poem of some two thousand verses was composed 
d; Jean David, a bnchelor of theology, entitled 

Xe Calvaire pnrfitrU par ttt Jacobin* de la nte 

It was probably at this period that the mount 
began to be known as the " Calvary." In 166^ 
the eia-i» of Paris were affiliated to the congrega- 
tion, and the custom was established by the par- 
oiuei of the capital of making a yearly pilgrimage 
to the holv mount on two nights spedally cooee- 
crated to the worship of the Cross. Behind the 
great attar of their church the priests of the com- 
munity had constructed a mimic representation of 
the sepulchre of our Saviour. To fadlitste access 
to the summit, the precipitous sides of the mount 
were hewn into terraces, with steps between, and 
chapels at regular intervals, fording representa- 
tions of the various stations of the Passion, were 
constructed tf> serve as resting-places for the pil- 

Availing themselves of these facilitiei^ during- 
the whole of Pasdon Week, Mont VaMrien was 
thronged bv sn army of devotees, making their 
way from ijiMpel to diapei, up its terraced sides, 
till they reached the church on the summit Rut 
it was on the nights of Ascension Day and Good 
Friday that the pilgrim-crowd became most nume- 
rous. The graphic pen of Dulsure shall hei» 
describe the mianigbt doings of these Oigiasts o£ 
modem timet: — 

'' L«s aoi portaSoit one cndx fort pcnnte, ct se tial 
niient avw pdne jDsqn'aa sommst da Is moDtagne ; 
eeaz-t& M fsiuisat fluUnr ea ebemin ; d'antna, eafiia, 
na ponvaot Jdmt de* rSIes A diffidin, h eontcntaint 
d'ttrespeclatsonWa^TDlca. Camnn eM sote da drivotlon 
•a Ikisalt U nolt, eomme eVtalt k U renaisMnce da 
printemps, et comma toot digtatm, les pUarliu at la 
t^ariuea biniant aoavaDt dat statloni ^i le brii de 
Boulogne {par aii Us pmaiantj, avant d'm fUra inr la 
moBtsgna da Calvain. La nlutarie et la [daidr ron- 
plsttreot la lUe at la pJoTtanca, at pliuiann p^hA 
etilent commli au lien mime de I'explaUDn. Cea ptle- 
rfaigca et lea dterdraa qa'lls entraioaiant, fDrmteaSa 
ugament r^fbnn^" 

At len^b, to nut a stop to the flagrant scandal, 
the Cardinal de Nosilles, the then Archbishop of 
Paris, effectually suppressed the "devotion," ia 
1697, by forbidoing the priests of the Cross to 
keep their chapels open on the nights of Holy 
Thursday and Friday. Finally, the two commu- 
nities of priests ana hermits were formally sup- 
§ Teased by a decree of the Constituent Assembly, 
nted August 18, 1781. 

The church of tlie Cross and the convent 
building* still remained; but, a few years later. 
Napoleon, informed by Foncb^ that they hnd 
become the nightly resort of a great number of 
priests and others who held secret meetings there- 
in, took alarm, and ordered the grenadiers of tlm 
guard, in earrison at Courbevoie, to betake them- 
selves to ue dangerous spot, arrest the snpposed 
conspirators, and raze the church and convent to 
the ground. His commands were executed to the 
letter, end after some delay, arising from fiekl»- 
ness of intention, the great msn gave orders, just 

** 3. VII. F«B. 19, 71.] 



before his own fall, that & barrack should lie 
«i«cted on the desecrated site. 

At this point commencea the modem histor; of 
Uont Val^rien, which is better knoirn, and on 
■rbidi I do not propose to enter. 

William Bates. 


This was the onlj passaf^ in Miltoa'a Poemt 
that I was noable to eiplaiD when commenting 
on them. When at length I became aware of 
the true eense of them I made the following 
mannacript change in what I had written on it in 
p. 265 of my Xt/> of MiUtm .— 
' "Tbla AddraMcommnicIngthDi — 

' Rivera (riw, whether thou beut the son 
or utmoiC Tweed, oi Ouae, or gulfv Don,' Ac. 
hai been a pnnle la all critics, nho, with Wsrton, could 
not see * in what senee or ia what manner thie introdno 
tlon of the riven was to be applied to tlie subject.' At 
Imgth tha reviewer of Mbsboh'ii Lift c/ .Vilton in the 
Sahirdinf Rmtie obHTred, ' May not the tcne eipliaa- 
tioD of the riddle be that tba part of Relatioti waa per- 
formed b^ ■ vDuth of the name of Rivers ? ' Acting 
on this hint, jtlr. Uauoo had inriuirv made at Cam- 
bridge, and ai he infomis ni in Tit ^rAnunin, it ap- 
Eared that on the 18th of Mev, 1G9B, Qeor^ and Siziil 
vera, toas of Sir John Hiveia, Knt„ of Weaterbam, 
Kaot, the former Ini his loth, the litter in hia t4th 
year, were admitted into Chriit College as leaser pen- 
alonera. Tha whole riddle then ia thua aolred, and we 
IwTe an unexpected specimen of Milton'i humonr. In 
tbla little drama, as we mav term it. he performed tha 
part of Ens, and those of the t'redicamenti were euaUined 
n ten of the junior fnahmen, one of whom no doubt waa 
ue elder Riven, on whose name be pla^a thus agree- 
obljr. There is also an appropiiateneas in doting the 
catalogue of the rivers with the Meilwajand the Thames, 
both rivers of Kent, and of which the former riaea not 
tmt fntm Wasterham, where the Rivera family resided. 

"It necmi almoal incredible that a matter tlius, we 
may say. lyiof; on tha ssrface should have eluded the 
vision of so many f^eratlons. But the truth is, many 
other inttUDces could he given of averaighta equal!]' mar- 

ei be reprinted, 
e Athataum nor The Saturday 
Stview is ao likelj to be consulted by ^tore 
inquirers aa "N. & Q.," I have thus, I trust, 
secured the hnowled)^ of thia removal of the only 
nmaining obecurity in the poetry of Miltou. 

As to the supposed lines of Milton's lately dis- 
covered, I saw at the first glance that they were 
not and could not be hia. I took no part in the 
miiUe, and I witnessed with pleasure the final 
triumph of good sense and sound critiinsm. 

Tho3, Ekiohtlet. 


Harinic lately read the Memoir of the Sev, 

Stmy Fnmeit Cory, M.A., Trmulalor of DttnU, 

4« (3 ToU. Ijondon, 1847), I wish to record two 

«r uuM partienlan which may prove interesting 

and perhaps useful to others, Mid my uote-book 
being at hand I am enabled to do ao without 
delay. " Procrastination is the thief of time." 

It is stated in vol, i. p. 1, that hia mother was 
"danghtet of TheophilusBrocas.Deanof Killala." 
Dean Brocas was likewise cbaplain of the Royal 
Chapel of SL Matthew, Ringsend, Dublin, 1750- 
1764 (as mentioned in Sr^ Sketchet of the 
POrishet of Booterttovm and Donnybrook, p. 101) ; 
and having died in 1770, he was buried in the 
churchyard of St. Anna's, Dublin, as recorded 
in the following tombstone inscription, which I 
copied within the last few years ; 

" Here Ijeth the body of the Rev* Theophilus Brocas, 
D.D., Dean of Killsla, who departed this life on tha 17<^ 
day of April, 1770, and In the 64»> year of his age." 

His death, according to Pue'a Qcaarretteee, April 
21,1770, was " an important loss to the kingdom,aa 
bis life was devoted to the service of the publick 
in promoting the true interest of this counby." 
It IB to be lioped that in the recent alterations 
and improvements at St. Anne's due care has been 
taken m the tombstones of Bean Brocas and many 
other notables. 

In ths same volume, p. 84^ where menUon of 
Mr. Gary's marriage appears, it is stated that "on 
the 19th of September, in the same year [1796], 
he married Jane, daughter of James Ormsby, 
Esq., of Sandymount [in the parish of Donny- 
brook], Dublin." Here there seetns to be a slignt 
inaccuracy in the date, for in the Viutation return 
of mairia^ in Donnybrook in 1796 (preserved in 
the Consistorial Court, Dublin), there is the fol- 
lowing entry : — 

"August 20. The Reverend Heniy Francis Cary, of 
StaSbr&hire, and Miss Jane Ormsby, daughter to Jomca 
Ormstty, Esq., of Sandymount." 

Mr. Ormsby had served as churchwarden of his 
parish in 1792, and in the old churebyard of 
Donnybrook there is a stone over the grave of 
Mrs. Frances O. Ormsby, wife of Cantain Robert 
Ormsby of the Sligo Militia, who diea August 10, 
1805, aged thirty-two years. 

The Donnybrook parish-register (1768-1799) 
has lone aince disappeared, and u not likely, I 
fear, tol)e lecoverea; and therefore the annual 
returns of maniagee, ftc, from one of which the 
foregoing quotation has been made, are the mors 
to he prized. Abhba, 

The following curious case waa heard at the 

Juarter sesrions at Newtonards, co. Down, Tues- 
n, Jan. 4, 1871. It is thus reported in ths 
Wiskly Whig, Jan. 7, 1871 :— 

Keimtdf v. Kauudf. 

" Thia waa a process bronght bv Ibe plaintlfl; Hugh 

Kennedy, (arm sarvani, to recover IV. tmm the defendant. 


[4ttS.Vn. F*B.18,7». 

Jobn Kenoedv, fknner, being one veal's wagM alleged t 

be doc. 

" Ur. C. C. RusMll appaated far the piaintiff, aad tL 
3. DiDTien for (ba derendaQt. 

" Tbe plaintiff and defendant are brothers, and tfa 
point Id ditpute vaa whether the engagemeiit vaa T 
■-year or 71. the iialf-f ear, the plaintiil' alleging the 
IjtUcr. As the evidence waa coimlcting, hii i»o— "-'- 
nferred it and another case between the aama part 

1 bj Ur. Ruasell, 
leriod he was in the defeni 
)d in bpniahing witchca oat of tbe honae, and 
on cne lana. Witchea were belieTed to s(>|ottni on the 
plaintiff's farm, and in conseijaeDce some of his cows 
died, and hii crapa were of inferior qaality. Bdief 
existed in tbe efficacj of a certain chann, patent in 
expelling nltehcs; but, sithoogh considered nnfaiting, 
the experiment was attended with dangeroos oonie- 
qnences. and no peraoa could be Iblind bad eaongh ' 
DodHrtake the carrying ont of the necraaary directio _. 
The danger lay in the fact Ibat if any one of the requisites 
of the charm rei^ained anfulfilled, the penon endeavonr- 
ing to effect the banishment irtiuld he carried off by the 
witches, and woold never more be heard of. Plaintiff, 
who was himself a believer in witchcraft, was itkduned to 
nndertake the hazardous attempt to work the charm. 
Ad evening was agreed upon to put tbe witches to flight. 
They were supposed to take up their residence in the 
house after n Rertain hoar, and lo remain there titi break 
of day ; and if the charm was soocessfally worked th(y 
woald not only be for ever dislodged from the dwelling, 
bat would never more set foot upon tbe farm. The mode 
adopted was aa rollows ; — AU the Inbabltanta left tba 
house wiib lbs exception of the plaintiff, who had to (act 
tbe witches alone. He locked himself in, closed the 
windows. BtnHed ill keyholes and apertures, and pnt aoda 
4MI the tops of the chimneys. He then pnt a large pot of 
■weeC milk on tbe fire, in tbe pot he put three rowa of 
idDS that had never been naed, and three packages of new 
needles. The milk, needles, and pins were allowed to 
boil together for half an hour. As there was no outlet 
for the smoke, plaintiff was nearly amolhered, and during 
the time the charm was maturing, be ijelieved be bad an 
encounter with the witche^ and succeeded In driving 
them from Che house. At all evente, none of them had 
appeared in the place since, and he had never heard any 
complaints abont ihe cons milking badly, or the crops 
not giving satisfaction. 

"The court was coDTubed with laoghter daring this 
extraordinary recital. 

"On tbe return of the arbitratoia into court, they 
stated that in the case for wages, they found for the 
plaintiff in Ihe sum of IDi. The other case was dtsiDissed." 

W. H. P. 

Toe If EiHiHa op "Momsiboe, Monsieue," — 
I have frequently been asked in BriCtiia why, ia 
our country, they put the word Monmear twice 
oti the Rddrese; "A Monsiaur, Monsieur," etc. 
tiy answer was that the first Monmmr should 
be writfen in two words, aud translated " my 
lord " (mon near, man leiffiteiv). 

If you open the Vu^tioimaire dt la Laagntfrm*- 
Caiie—m ably comjuled by my learned frieud 
Mone. Littrd — you will find under the word 
" Monneur" (vol. ii. p. 611, ool. 3) that tbo Mote, 

united with the name of a town, waa foimarij 

used ta designate the hiahop of the diocese of 
which that town waa the- capital; but he omitted 
to add that it meant also the hangman, as ya« 
may see by the Affmoirei de Samaon, and Aboat'a 
JjU Managtn de Forie. This double acceptation 
led lately to a very ludicrous misunderstaodiD^, 
the narrative of which may amuse your readers. 

A young orderly, who had learnt imperfectly, 
tbe German langu^e (but, however, boaatod of 
being a thorough master of it), baviDg been s«it 
to toe Proesiau outposts with a flag of truoe, 
appeared in the company of a stately gentleman, 
much dignified, and dressed like a reverend one. 
This gentleman tbe young officer (who, I suspect^ 
is tbe author of tbe song you lately printed) in- 
troduced to the Oerman commander as " Monsieur 
de Paris," and I beg to introduce him to you as 
Mens. Hendriek, the hangman of Paris, who, 
being a German, or at least of Uerman extiao- 
tioo, speaks fluently the language of the in- 
Tader. Now it happened tbe Teuton waa a 

Cious Roman Catholic, mora cosversant with tbtt 
inguage of Madame de Miuntenon aod of th» 
CoQcoraat than with the phcaseologr iu o>e at 
preewL Be acoordingly prostrated nimself be- 
fore the Ingubrieus gentleman, kissed his basda^ 
and acted so many fantastic extravagenees, after 
the Oerman fashion, that the young wag and bis 
interpreter were put extremely out of countenance. 
Still the ktter took great care, for the sake of his 
own life, not to show la corde. 

One word more, to be added to Uttr^'s article. 
Ia the nautical language, the title of monnno- ia 
particularly given by the crew to the lowest of 
them, the numutj the abip-boy, and the reason of 
that is obvious : it is a joKe founded on the like- 
ness between numite and motuieur^ pronoanced at 
Maraeillee and Bordeaux mmitsH. 

Athenteum Clab. 


Bbab-baitirq. — I was never a witness of a 
bear-bait, but I well remember a poor brute who- 

was kept alive for this sole purpose, at F in 

Lancaenire. He was confined, as a general rnle^ 
in a small back yard, where siKbtleaa, dirty, stink- 
ing, and perhaps balf'Starreo, his sole and con- 
slant eserdse appeared to be moving bis bead 
and forequarters from side to side. When taken 
other villages to be baited, bis advent ther» 
s announced by a wretched fiddler, who walked 
before him and the bear-ward. Upon one occa- 
sion the story |ioeB that be and a second cham- 
pion of tbe like kind arrived at W. on tbe 
wakes-day, before tbe evening ohureh service was 
campleted. This, however, was rapidly brouvbt 
to a close by the beadle calling to the prea^ar 
from the church door : " Mestur, tb* bear a c«me ; 
and what's more, there's two of 'em." This 

«* rsm. i( 




&eedom of Bpeech in [» holj plnca is lees to be 
wondered Rt when it is known that the good 
lectoi and a party from the rectory usually wil^ 
nawed the beai^bait ftonx the chuicbyud adjuin- 
ii^ the village gtsen. M. D. 

GAI.AIB ADD Six Gilbebt Talbot ik 1613. — 
The following old Fieatik letter, signed by Gilbert 
Talbot, the then English governor, mny be of 
anffieient interest to merit preserration in the 
pages of " N. & Q." 

Henbt T. Wake. 


" Tnsfaaolte & tteaexcelleDle priocciM et ma trca- 
konnoiuee Dame taut et si treshnmblement que faire puu 
a y^ bonne gnee Je me Becommand* I A U qaells plaise 
ttmnt I que ce Jour Dhuy^ Jay Becea U I'rea quil vons ■ 
jiIml mescrire | par lesqaelles mo faielu uuoir qne pnia 
■igaares ung navire ctaarga da tiiui dauxenoiii poai la 
proTuion de lostel de manv le prince de CutUle eC du 
Vts a rate print et mis en maniere que load' navire et 
Tina Hiieot lacontinent mis aa delifie | et les laiisei 
allerparderan todb. 

" Tnsbaulte tresezeellente pHncene et ma treshon- 
nonrve Dame J anant la Reception de vos d' I'rea | Je Teoz 
adverti de lad prinM | et IncontiDent Jescripny aiud' de 
dooie de iwnffrir led' ninire departlr anecqae lead' vina { 
ce qne a esle faict en mnniere qail eat ce Jonr Dhuj 
aiTyae an banre de ceat ViUe I et ay ordonne an maistre 
dlcellay de paitir a son boa plaiiir et TOuUoir poar con- 
dnyre et meaei lead' tIdi pardevers Tons. | En vona as- 
KuriDt madatae qne noa pas Eeullement en ce^t endroict 
JedeainaToiueonipUiieet faire Kmice | mais en toutes 
antrea ehoses a moj poHiiblei §e]oii mon petitpoavir I 
Car en ce faisant Je aaia sar' faire Bcrviue treMgreibte 
aa Roy mon aoaveraia se'r v're bon Cooiin. | 

"Treahanlte et trewxcellente priacease et ma treshon- 
nooree Dame Je sopplieau beaolat tainet esperict Tooa 
ectmyer leatiere accomplisKmeat de vox tieshaulz et 



)t I Ian XT" & 

a Calais le xxv™* Jonr da 
xij (35. ang. I&IS). 

" V're treshomble & tnaobeissant Servit'. 

Gtlbkkt Talbot." 

The superscription is w follows, tLe. : — 
" A trtsbaolte et treaaxceUente piineewe et ma treabon- 
neoree Dame, Uadame Margarita AniiiidiicbeHB d'aua- 
trie doeesie et contene de bourg" doBaiglere de Saooye, 
"Begtnte et goaveman', etc" 

CuBiouB Precubsobs of the Pretiwdbr. — 
A London pftper of July, 1745, gives the follow- 
ing accoDst of an ftdtenturer; — 

" EdJDbn^h, Jane ST. We have not yet heard to 
iriiat Comer of tbe World David Gillia (who bad aasamed 
tke diaricter of lbs Pretender's son) tied after getting 
OBtof the Jiilof Couper in Fife, vbere be had been eon- 
limed for vBiions rogneries^ But 'tis certain he eame to 
lUi city about nioe months ago, accompanied by his 
confederate Billy (who is now in caatody at Selkirk), and 
after aelling their horsea took Roams in Multrees bills. 
GWt fell to work, and painted the 'Vialuiioo of the 
Maui,' ■St.CedLi'C.K), -The Miaer," Jane Shora,' 4=.. 
wUdi CDDnoisaeais eoDSider finiahed piccea ; and Billy 
watraghtjoomeyman toa shoemaker. Bat chasing lather 
to slmlt about than earn their bread in an honest way, 
» and etaaractert, and impoaed 

bonrtiood of this. Upon beariDg tbat warrants wen 
issued for apprehending Gillia, be fled to Ormislon in 
Eaat Lothiao, where he passed for Peter Dauglaa, Uiq. 
Here, finding the people devoutly inclined, be canted and 
prayed with them to AdsiratiiM, and declared that 
Whilefield was a Siet rate saint; but hearing that a 

> payai 

About a fortnight later it ie stated, under dnte 
Edinburgh, July 16: — 

" David Gillia, who lately acted the Prince in the 
Confines of Ihis City, and who with his confedtnte 
William Rae was lately dmmmed out and bani^ied 
the Connty of Selkirk, la returned hither with his con- 

A week afterwards the London OatOU offered 

ita reward of 30,000i. for the appTebeusiou of the 

real Pretender, if there can be such o, deugnation. 


HBiVKN Lbttbrs. — A letter written in Qotha, 
Germany, and published in a New York news- 
paper, contuns the following passage : — 

" Onr old Fran ttdd us she had a brother in tbe army, 
and when we exprtaeed a hope that nothing would hap- 
pen Id him, aha replied: 'Oh! no, he has a Heaven letter 
on him 1 he ia all aafe.' We asked her what a Heaven 
letter was, at which she seemed mnch sarpiiwd, wonder- 
ing that we had never heard of it. She said asveral of 
the peasantry of the village owned cMie, though where 
they originated or where they got them she did not 
know. We expteased much interest, and lald that we 
wanted mnch to see what kind of thing it waa that thus 
protected its wearer from all earthly ill. She teemed 
much averse to speaking about it, and did not think she 
could get one for us ( hut the next morning, befna we 
were op, ahe came to us with one ahe had bcfrowed from 
a friend. It must have been very old, perhapa having 
come down from father to aon i for though of parchment, 
it was worn in holes. It contained a not lU-aketched 
pictnte of tbe crudfled Saviour, at whose feet lav an 
apple, cut open, and exposing the seeds to view, 'lliere 
were a number of veraea which we could not make out, 
except that there were several invocations to the Trinity 



Tba, — The following notice of tea is cojued 
from the Station <^ the Voymge to Siam iy Six 
JendU m 1686, London, 1688, p. S60: — 

" It Is a civility amonRit tham to present betle and tea 
to all that visit them. Ilielr own country anppUea them 
with betle and areca, but they have their tea from China 
and. Japan. All tbe Orientals have a particular esl«em 
for it. becaose of the great virtues they find to be in it. 
Their physiciana say that it is a Bovereign medicine 
against the atone and pains of the hoad ; that it ailaya 
vaponrsi that it cbears the mind, and atrengtbeos the 
Etomack. In all kinds of feavers they lake it atronjter 
[ban commonly, when they begin to feel the heat of the 
St, and then the patient covera Mmaelf np to sweat, and 
it bath been very ofttm found that this sweat wholly 
drivea away the feavor. In the East they prepare the 
tea in this manner : when the water is well boiled, ihey 
ponr it upon the tea which they have put into 
pot, proportionablj to what they intend tt 
ordinary proportion is as much aa one a- '■ 

HI Doueu, iney 
nto an earthen . [„ 
1 to take (the MC 
n take np with ' 




the fii 

it, BDiI Attanrard give it iboal iii cbint dhho 
dnnk u hot »a o»n be without sQuar, or else with ■ liltli 
HUimr-ondj in the maath; and upon that tea man 
boiling T"Ht« may b* ponrerf, and so it may be mad* U 
aerre twiw. These peofiledrink of It several llmea a-day 
but do not think it vboUom to take it r»ting." 

\V. E. A. A, 

EKR0EiFNBiLL's"Hi8T0Rr opthbViboikia 
CoKPiwr." — Neill id his Hiitory of the VirgitUa 
Company of London, p. 225, writing of 'Willinm 
Cleylwme, tecictaif of state for that colonv, 

naker prescher in 1CT3. met him at ■ 
and vol invited to iM at his bouM. 
■0 dieil, for the preacher in hia 
joaraal lavs, ' Hewaa oaulidwin man. received the truth, 
and died 'in the aame, leaving two fileudi hia exccu- 

This quotation rehn to tbe cooimiMioner 
Richntd Bennet, und not to Cleybnruc, (Piffc 
EdmimdMn's Juurnal, A.D. 1710, p. US.) 


Pedestbij,:<' Feat or' Pikaj)AY. — I sea it Bl&ted 
in an article on Foradaj (Edinburgh Mtiiiew, Julv, 
1870), that " one day htj started alone from the 
Batha of Leuli, over the Gemmi, past Kandersteg 
and Frutigen, all the wa; to Thun, doings the 
forty-five milea in ten and a half hours without 
much fatigue and with do ill efTects." 

Conaiderinr the long and ateep ascent of the 
Gemini, nhich must have been macte in this 
diiectioa, the walk is one of the most extraordi- 
nary ones OB record. 

I speak from my own pedestrian experience on 
the line indicated. FitAKcia TnEncn. 

Illip Bectory. 

Kehcott, Oxok. — In the chancel of this church 
on the south wall there is a curious monument — 
curious not in itself, but from the fact that it is 
set in a wooden case, with onk folding doors like 
a triptych to close over all and protect it from 
iqiury. It ia to the memory of Richard Colchea- 
ter of Westbury, CO. Oloater, D.C.L., who died 
Sept 11, 1643. Also to his wife Eliiabeth, 
daughter of Sir Hngh Hammersley, Knt., Lord 
Mayor of London, by Mary, daughter of Baldwins 
Dorham of Derham, co. Norfolk. The arms dis- 
played ve — Or, a chevrou between three estoiles 
inilas [granted 16261, impaling gulas, three rams' 
heads couped or. W. M. H. C. 

P.S. In the head of the Norman dooi of this 
churdi ia a bold earring of Sagittarius, with the 
letters BA«iT} the arrow baa parted from the 

I do Dotrecollect that any of your correepoDdents 
have ever suggested any inquirr as to the author- 
ship of the popular song, which precedes the 
summer vacation of Wincheeter School, called the 
"Domum." It has frequently been sung in my 
hearing, but no inquiry of mine has ever been 
aatisfactorily'answered aa to the origin or author- 
It has something of the nil and aspect of an 
early medieval hymn or chHOson. On the other 
hand, there are symptoms in it of Martial and 

few lines from a song to the Viigin, printed in the 
" Poimet <mltriruret mi tfoto^nie liicle," by Ed6~ 
lestand du MdriL Paris, 1843 :— 
" Dormi, fill, diilce mater 

Dalce melos conciuam ; 

Dormi, nate, auave, paler, 

Ne quid deait slemam roaia, 

Staroam ftenam vioIi% 
ravlinentnm hyaciutfaJa, 
Et prsffipe liliii." 
So in Martial (Ep^. 402) we have — 
" Phosphors rfdde diem, qnid gaiidia nostra moraris ? 

Oiare venturo, Pbosphore, ri'dilo diem," 
I quote BO much of the " Domum " song as re- 
minds me of the above passn^s : — 
" Conetnaniaa, o aodalea 
^a ! qnid allemua ! 
Nolule canllcam 
Dolce meliM domnm 
Dolce domnm rcaonemui. 

liora gaud 

Concinamns ad penatea 
VoK et aadiatnr 
Pboaphore ijnid jubar 

On the whole, I think we can asugn i 

66, 198 ; xi 

Bpondant is reftrred ' 

56; iO-S-X-SBl; vL 


" QirsKR Abbbkis,"— A poem under this title 
appeared in BlackteooJ't Magaeme for December, 
1839. Is its author knovm? The referenMts to 
Dartmoor and Babbicombe seem to indicate a 
Devonshire man. Then, as to the characters : — 

■"S. Vli. Feb. 18. 71.] 



Andnipio is. of course, Metboume. Who is Sid- 
rophellP Does AntoDio mean PalmeratoDP Tbs 
fioiuicier I esBume to be Spiing Bice, who -was 
created LordMonteagle on AuRuatSTj 1839. Who 
ia Hkcario, " of ObIUc origin "f RouaiUon is mani- 
featly Lord Russell — 

" Ttw bett 4iid tnutiot of the Qoeea'a dlTU." 

The "orator of giant furce" i^ doubtlesa, 

BroDgbam, and O'CoddbH the demagogue 

" Who svajed ■ great part af tbe populouc" 

I shall be veiy glad to have infonnation rb tu 

the other characters adumbrated by the poet 


Tan Blbaklsz Faiolj. — A branch of this 
f.iinil^ settled in the county Down, Ireland, Bomo 
time in the reign of the second Charles or there- 
abouts. Tbej are traditionallj said to have been 
of English descent— probably from Yorkshire or 
Devonshire, in ivbich latter county there was a 
place called Bleakley Hall. The crest or arms of 
the Irisb branch was a blacliamoor or Saracen's 
head, and the prevtulin)^ Christian names, David, 
iBdward, and John, which matters may afford a 
clue to the English progenitors. If some of your 
correepnadents familiar with English family his- 
tory, more particularly of Devonshire and York- 
shire, would afford the inquirer information on the 
subject, they would greatly oblige I. W. H. 

Chnrdi Stmt, Dawnpatilck. 

BxLiMOsa AND Nbwsp.^pebb. — More than half a 
century ago I read a notel called Tht Lad Man.' 
I think it was in four volumes 12mo. My father 
had it in his librair. When be, however, re- 
moved from his then reaideDCe in Bromley, 
Kent, it was sold, with the other weedings, by 
nuction by Messrs. Mandy. It was a novel of the 
Minerva Press school, the immediate predecessor 
of the houses of Bentley, Saunders &; Otley, 
Oolbnn, &c Whether the two prophecies I am 
about to mention from it will assist Dr. Gum- 
ming in proving that we are near the eve of the 
last day I am unaware, but certainly they are 
quite pertinent to the present period. 

1, In Tlie Laet Mm% (if I remember aright) all 
troMllmff vmt to be performed by baUoon. This 
is not yet quite sccomplished, but the French 
govemment ia umng balloons for its businesB pur- 
poses, and one of its most important mmisters, 
too, has made an aerial voyage. 

2. That neK^>apers tooaid be ptAiMtd mtn/ Itpo 
hmrt. This prophe^ certunly has been fulfilled, 
for what with various editions of threepenny 
Tunei, penny Daily Telegraphs, Standardi, &c., 
and ^t, second, third, fourth, and later editions 
of faal^nny Edmte, we have now newspapers 
iMoed oR«ner than every two hours. 

There were other curi 
volumes^ especially one of which at present we 
have no signs, and I trust it will not occur in my 
time — viz. that in consequence of the productive 
powers of the earth becoming exhausted, the last 
man himself directs, a hundred years before his own 
decease, the people, who are then fast decaying 
out of the world (no births taking placo), to culti- 
vate the high and the bye roads, and to turn the 
channels of the rivers, so as to obtain an unculti- 
vated virgin soil whereon to raise a Few cereals. 

Qy. Where can I see a copy of TJie Lad Man t 
I have searched the British Museum catalogues, 
and'it is not there.* 

Qy. When did the Minerva Press commence 

Subiiahing its wondrous lot of books, and when 
id it cease its labours ? Mr. Colbum was, I be- 
lieve, the originator of the nresent fashion of 
3 vols, post 8vo novels at IJ^ lis. 6^ ; or did it 
commence in Scotland with Waverkyf I hope 
that Mr. Yboweli. will reply to this question, 
for no gentleman is so thoroughly acquainted with 
the subject. Alfbbd Johk Dcitxur. 


R, p. BojnwoTOir.— Did this artist ever spell 
"Bonninglon" in signing his works f Can any 
of your readers solve my diiGcultyP T. S. A. 

[In Brjan'i Did. D/Painteri(l8i9) thin Btmeiispeit 
BoiiiiiDgton. The foUowlDg panEiaph aliw eppean : — 
" Posterity should b« made swara that manv plctana 
and drswlnss, attributed to this artist, are ciples and 
Imitations made to satisfy tlie avidity of collector*, and 
amplr to rciiiuncnite the skill of the copyist and the 
capiditf of tho dealer."] 

Caivin iKD Skrvetos.— Can von or any <rf 
your corregpondenta inform me if there is unques- 
tionable authority for the stat«ment that Calvin 
was personallypresent at the burning of SerretusF 

[3ee "N. 4 Q." li» S. L 266, 39( ; IL 40, 68, 108, 166,] 
Children's Oaubs.— What is the ori^n of the 
common game in Scotland, in which the follow- 
ing rhymes occur ? — 

" Uo« maDV miles to Babylvu ? 
Three scare and ten. 
Shall 1 t>e there by caDdle-ltght ? 
O ycf, and btci again." 
I can vouch for its being as old as 1706, at any 
late. S. 

[A description of this and a aimilir game, with a more 
eoinptele version of (he lines, i> given in R. Chambers's 
Fopular AAyn» n/ Scolbmd, edit. 1870, p. tSS.] 

CisTSBCiAiT MoKASTBBT. — Would you inform 
me which is considered the finest Cisteruan mon- 

[* The falloirin;; wort Is ia the BriDsh Haseamj — 
"Tlie Last Man, or Omegams and Sydrrla, a Romance > 
In Futarity. Two Vols. R Dutton, 4S, Gnuxdmrrh 1 p 
Street, 180e." It ia entered in the new catalogne onder S 
the word "Omoganis," piees-roark S, 87*.— En,] 




asteij, or lathe? ruins of one, in Enfcland; «nd 
. wlietlier tiere is »ny good account of It ? 

A FoKEiaKia. 

rOnr cormpandeDt should tomnlt A Hmdbook to the 
Abbot of Si. Mara af Funun, n Lanaukirt, DlTerston, 
1846. 8vo, which PBI.1.1M ■ deKription of tUa funed 
GUimixa aUwj-.-wiUi illatnitknu.] 

CsinciBii Mr "Mkeckajit ob Vbhicb"; Mbs. 
Dowirraa.— 1. IrecolleEthKringread an anecdote 
of a child, noted in after life for its literary or 
social poaition, which, during a lepreaantation of 
Shakespeare's Iterdumi of Venice, towards the end 
of the fourth act, where Shylock leaves the 
court, indignantly eidaimed, "The poor man is 
wronged I " Can any of your readers inform me 
who this child was, and hy whom this enecdote 
i£ related P 

2. Can any of your readers giTe some account 
of the Iriah poetess Mrs. Downinf[, some of whose 
impassioned poems aie printed m Lovers J^rtcs 
o/Jriiond (pp. 220,229, 317) P Have her poems 
ever been published in a collected form f When 
and where was she bora, and when did she dieF 
The more dates the account contiuns, the more 
Bcaeptable it will be. Eut Elzb, Ph.D. 

Dona, Feb. 7,1871. 

CoBRntT EsOLisa: "Whbthke ok ho." — 
Why do persons, otherwise well-infonned, give 
themselves the habit of using the phrase "whether 
mno" instead of " whether or not " P Careleas- 
nesa of tte h^d is ecarcely pirdonable in conver- 
sation uid in private correspondence; but such 
" Blip-shod " English is inexcusable in those who 
write for pablication. The critical readeis of 
" N. & Q." will oblige Irf supporting this view of 
the question if they agree with the writer^ or vice 
vertd, for after all there may be two opbions on 
the auWect, and it would be curious to know 
apon what grounds the phrase which I complain 
of could be defended. M. A. B. 

Evklth's "Diary."— At Paris, 164», Septem- 
ber 12— 

" Dr. Crighton, ■ Scotchman, and one of hia msjeBlla's 
chiplaius, s learned Greeiin who set oat the CouDcil of 
Florence, preached. 

What can this mean P The Council of Florense, 
a continaation of that of Ferrara, being held in 
1439 to 1442, the object of which was the re- 
union of the Greek and X^tin churches ; and no 
other having been called since that of Trent until 
the present now in lecesg, J. A. Q. 


[Evelvn's aUmion « tu Dr. Robert Creighton'a irork, 
entitled'" Vera Histoiia DDfonia non vene inter Grscos 
et Latinos : eive ConcUli Flonntini exact, oacratio, Qr. et 
Lat. Hape, 1660, fbL"] 

GmsB iKD GtiizoT, — This name has generally 
ben proDotmced as if spelt in English Otteeie ,- 
but as M. Oviiot is said to pronoanoe his own 

name as Oweeto, and as the place from which Uw 
duke takes his title is marked in the bast dio- 
tionaries (as an exception to nan than Sity 
words be^nning Oia) to be proDoanced Om-^Et, 
Fr., or gneas. Mug., it might be presomed that the 
duke's name should follow the aane nnmuDeia- 

What is be TMlly oaUad by w 

Hkbvey OB Hebbbt. — With Bibles of the rix- 
teenth centurr there is often bound up "Two 
right proStable and fruitful Concordances, ftc, 
collected by E. F. H.," the weface to which is 
signed " Thine in the Lord, Robert F. Hervey," 
and dated Dec 22, 1678. In catalogues the 
author of these Conccodances is at difiarent times 
called Hervey and Kerrey, and I am unable to 
make oat from inspection of several copies whe- 
ther it is on r or D. Can any one tell me ; and 
also, whether «nythiQg is known of him P 

s. H. A. a 


tBobert F. Henef, the editoi of the CDaeordances. is 
uown to fkme. The foUaving edidoiu of bis work 
■r« in the BriOah Hdhdib— 1&T9, 1680, 1598, 16I&, 1619, 

Aleiasdbr Jahiesok, H.A.— -Who was heP 
He is deaeribed as the audior Ctiettial Atiat, 
London, 1822. L. C. B. 

FoBTBAiT OP John Eay. — I am very anxious 
to find a certain lithographed portrait of John 
Kay, of Bu^, tbe inventOT of the "fly-shuttle," 
and tbe father of the present ayetem of cotton 
manufacture. The portrait to which I refer wae 
published in March 1843. It was drawn by W. 
Phyuck, and lithograph^ by Madely, 3, Welling- 
ton Street, Strand, If any of your readers can in- 

StK Sahubl Luks's LxtTBB Book. — Was thia 
old Letter Book of the seventeenth century, now 
I believe in the British Museum, ever printed P 
Hehey T. Wake, 

[The Letler Hook of Kr Samuel Luke, the hero of 

Hudibrta, ia in tbe British Muiwum, Egertaa HSS. 
785-787. It has never been printed,] 

Fea3T op thb NAirvm. — I should feel much 
obliged for information as to the earliest record of 
the commemoration of ^e Feast of the Nativity 
on December 30. Z believe it to be a very 
andent institution, though not traceable to Apo- 
stolic timea. Has It any connection with the 
astronomical quarters of the year? At what period 
did it assume the character of saturnalia P 


[A reference to that most usofttl volnme. Tile Pragtr- 
Book iHttrltmtd, by Campion and Beamont, vllt girs 

4* a TIL Jm. 18, 71.] 



tr eorreapandeiit mwj infMmitlon he cui taquire u 
< the period of tbe oliurviCiim b; Tuious cburcbee of 
mFeulTaloftheMilJTitj. The WeMem Cbarch, ftnm 
....... s^huodcbntodUie'NaUTityiui tbe 26th 

NoMiBitATro, — Ihsve Been it more tinm once 
stAtad that no coin of less value than the denarius 
wu struck bj our Engluh kings prior to the 
Tear 1980 ; but in a legal deed of the nindi je&r 
of-tije reipi of Richard I. I find "trea sol, sex 
den. et dao aitilia." Was the altiliuni a coioP 
In three differenrCambridge deeda of the reign 
«f King John the jundrant la mentioned, and in a 
Buckadeed of the B«me reipi theoWiw. Philippe 
Angwte of France (1180-1223) struck a varied 
of eoina of small Talue. Did thay perhapa be- 
come cuneut in England in the time of our Nor- 
man kin)n ? Onus. 

Bisdr, Beda. 

'Tal^oloqia Chkonica."— Ib this a work on 
tucient general hiatorj, &c., or is it simply genea- 
logiealP Robert Car;, the author, was aon of Sir 
H. Carf of Cockington House, Devcu, and had a 
brother, Colooel Tiieodore Gary, who married in 
1676, in Jamaica, Dorothy Walt. I may haTe it in 
my poverto offer some Buggeationa touching thia 
branch of the Caiy family when m; query has 
been aneweted. Sp. 

BidKtieoli S. Apodeictlcnl i S. CaDonical. Load. 1677. 
AL The authoT tella ds, that " tbe deaiga of thji work 
it to Attemuna tbe joit intervil of time b«twe«a the 
gi«at epoch of tbe cnation of the world, and another of 
tfae detttnetion of JernsaJem by Titus Vespaaiaa, in ordai 
to the aHlffoment of aacb parCicnlar time, wbeniu ptr- 
" " " "jl ttdr —' ""■ 


ilil had tbdr existence."] 

The Fuho. — Thia inatrument made ita fiist 

ipeanace in London at Covent Garden Theatre 

Mut 1730. It eaoaed considerable eeneation. 
An acconnt appeared in some work of the time. 
Can any comMpoudent oblige me with a referenee 
to the details ? Jakes Quabbi. 

£1. Hill Street, Fecliham, S.E. 

[In England the invention of the pianoforte is claimed 
In Fatber Wood, in English monk at Rome, nho mauii- 
-fcetored one in 1711, and sold it to Samuel Ciiap, Esq., 
"tike author of FirsFtdro, from whom it waa purchased br 
FMice GreeiUe, Esq. The earliest public notice of this 
BMical instrument was at Coveot Garden Theatre on 
Mar 16, 17R7. See a oopv of the play-bill in " N. & U." 

Fbiht-sbalbbs' CATAioanze. — Will some cour- 

.teous connoiuenr kindly send me the addressee of 

a few dealers in old prints who iasue catalogues F 

J. L. Cbbebt. 

HaTeloch Plaoe, Hanley. 

[I. John Stmson, 16, King's Place, King's Boad 
abttoea. 2. A. Niiibet*, 5, Green Street, Leleealer Square 
t. Jahn Camden Uotten, 74, 75, FiccadiUy.] 

BooD SoBBBHs IN StrPFOLi Ghdrches.— Can 
layot yoDi readers add to the following list 

of churches in Suffolk that contain punted 
lood screens, oi painted panels of any land ? I 
know of Southwold, Eye, UETord, Yaxley, Den- 
ton, Denham, Saisston, Blundastoo, Westball, 
Bramfield, Badwell Ash. A description of any 
except Southwold and Yaxley would be most ac- 
ceptable. I believe the screens or panels at Sapia- 
ton and Badwell Ash are very cunous. 

W. Mabsh. 

7, Bed Lion Square. 

BsADir Slsbp.— 1 was told the other day that 
this appellation waa given to all the sleep which 
viedte us before midaisht. Is this its common 
dedgnation elsewhere tnan Jn Lancsahire ? 

M. D. 

JxRBKT Tatlob. — Ato there any peraona of 

e name of Taylor, at present living, who are 
lineally deeeended from the great divine P There 
was a family of this name at Carmarthen, sup- 
posed to be lineal descendants, some of whom 
mairied into the family of Money of Waltham- 
Rtow, who are said to l>e descendants of the 
Moneys, a very old family in Norfolk at Wells- 
on-the-Ses, whose name in the eleventh and 
twelfth centuries waa Le Money. Robert Money 
married Sarah Taylor in 1724, and ahe is eupposed. 
to be one of the Taylors of Carmarthen, lineal 
descendants of Jeremy Taylor. la there any book 
or manuscript in which such coimectipn could be 
traced and veriHed P J< 

"Thb SBVBJf WoNBEBS OF Waibs" is an old 
saying in the Principality, and is one that was a 
honsefaold word long before Stephenson's Tubular 
Bridge, or even Telford's Suspeneiou Bridge over 
tbe Menai, were thought of. These wonders all 
relate to North Wales, and are as follows:— The 
mountain of Snowdon, Overton cbnrchynrd, bells 
of Grmford church, Llangollen bridge, Wrexham 
steeple (qu. tower), Pyitjl Rbwadr waterfall, and 
St. Winifred's welL CanaoyTeadersof "N.&Q." 
tell when the sajing originated, and wb^ (some 
of) these places were deemed more especial won- 
ders tban other Welsh attractions or novellies P 



(l" S. vii. 6C.) 
The query of N. admits of an immediate reply 
There is no satisfactory evidence in proof of the 
allegation in my father's Aaivbiographi/ that his 
father was a " lineal descendant of tbe Haydona of 
Cadbay." Two sUtements of tbe alleged descent 
have indeed been mode by different members of 


t4*8.V«. F«.lB,'n. 

Mr. HBjdoo's family, but tier are mutnally 
ioconBisteiil, tkod U, lewt one of them is opposed 
to fncts which a careful investisiitioii into tbo 
pedigree of the Haydona of Woodbury and Cad- 
Wj Aas recenlly brought to my notice. 

Tho more precise of these two etatements is, 
tbat the paternal great-grand father of the punter 
was "in poasewion of the Cadhay estate.'' The 
more vague, that the faUier of the painter was a 
descendant of a vounger brother of the Cadhay 
Haydon who " ruined the family." The former 
depends solsly upon the oral testimonr, often re- 
peated, of one of the siatets of my father's pa< 
teraal grandfather, Robert Haydoo, which was 
committed to writing about fifty yeara unce by 
Iier niece : the latter, upon the oral testimony of 
nr paternal grandfatber, Benjamin Haydon. 

Now, it will be easy to show that Robert 
Haydon, who was bom in 1714, could not have 
been a legitimate son of the last Haydon of 
CadhftT, nor a son— legitimate or illegitimate— of 
any of hu predecessors. 

Gideon Haydon, the last of his family whc 

Esessed Cadhay, was the eldest son of Gideon 
ydon, junior, of Cadhay, and Alice his wife. 

bora between March 12, lflB6-fl— at 
which dati) there was no issne of the mar- 
riage of bis parents — and Oct 6, 1006, when 
he was baptised at Ottery St. Harr. He manied 
Ann, the widow of Thomas IlanDury, merchant 
of London, one of the brother! of John Han- 
burr, Bnq., of Woodford, Co. Devon ; the was one 
of toe daughters of John Fawecett of Reaconsfield, 
CO. Bucks, gentleman. The marriage took place 
on October 30, 172:t, nine yean after the birth of 
Robert Haydon, There is not only no OTidence 
of an earlier marrisf^, but it is nearly certain that 
this Gideon Haydon left no legitimate issue at his 
death in February, 1748-9, while RobertHaydon 
survived faim by more than fonr-and-twen^ 
years, and Robert Haydon's elder brother, John, 
by more than thirty. Neither of them then could 
have been a legitimate son of the Inst Haydon of 
Cadhay; and as it is very unlikely that aboy under 
nineteen years of age should have two children, 
it is very unlikely that Robert and John Haydon 
ahould have been hie natural sons. 

The last Haydon but one who possessed Cad- 
hay died in March 1706-7,* seven years before 
the birth of Robert Havdon. His immediate pre- 
decessors died in 1702-3 and in 1663-4. 

These facts, which rest upon the most satis- 
factory evidence, appear to me to dispose of the 
more precise of the two versions of the Cadhay 
story. I mav, however, add that the fact that 
Robert Haydon moat probably lost his father 
when he was about nine or ten yeara of age — that 
is, in 1723 or 1724— is another argument against 
IdentiBcation of that father with any of the 
*^ ~* fi-iu— Q^ auspidous circum- | 

stance about this form of the etory is this ; that it 
does not appear that Robert Haydon himself ever 
testified to ita truth. It is unfortunate that the 
account, if true, ahould depend eutirely upon the 
testimony of persona belonging to the more in- 
accurate of toe two sexes. This account of the 
descent of Mr, Haydon's family has found ita way 
into print more than once, the most circumstan* 
tialformofit being that in the lUudraled ZoHdam 
A'ewj of July 4, 1846. It occurs also in th» 
Ex^tUr Flying Post of August M, 1848. 

The second veiuon of the Cadhay story, being' 
more vaguely stated than that which has been 
just dealt with, is less easilv brought to the teat 
of facts and dates. Who tte particular Cadhay 
Haydon was who "ruined the family," it would 
be extremely difficult to determine. The ruin of 
a family of "great estate," as the Baydena of 
Cadhay were, is, or used to be, a gradual procMS, 
needing the sustained efforts of many generations 
for its perfect accomplish menL But if any on* 
Cadhay Haydon, rather than any other, is to be 
selected as the one who brought about the sale of 
the proper^, it ie certainly the Gideon who died 
inf 1702-3. In 1708 a private Act of Parliament 
(7 & 8 Anne, No. 64) was obtained, under which 
eeveral of his estates were sold for the payment of 
his debts, which amounted to about 2O,00OJ, I 
can, however, find no evidence that either of 
his younger brothers — William, who died in 
1722, and John^ver had a eon or grandson 
Robert The former was twice married, the firat 
time to a lady whose Christian name was Borothy, 
by whom he appears to have had one daughter 
Dorothy, who married Nicholas Fry at Ottery St 
Maiy on July 6, 1704. She was a widow before 
April, 1714 William Haydon married hia SBomd 
wife, Frances Putt, of Ottery St Mary, vridow, in 
1695, when he was in hia fifty-third vear, I can- 
not ^nd evidence of any issue by this marriage. 
Hia brother John Haydon, who was a woollen- 
draper, had a vrife and a daughter Mary, and a son 
living in April 1714. He was very probably 
idenLcol with the John Haydon of Woodbury 
buried there in August 1724^ and with the 
" uncle " of that name, who is mentioned «• 
deceased iu the will of the last Qideon of Cadhay, 
and to whoM son John and daughter Mary cer- 
tain bequests are made by their "coufln." Wil- 
liam Haydon sometimes lived at Cndhay during 
the minority of the last Gideon, John lived with 
his brother Gideon for about five yean, appa- 
rently at Cadhar, after leaving London in 1870. 
There remain tne younger brothers, Thomas and 
Robert, of the Gideon of Cadhay, who died ia 
1706-7, and the younger brother Thomas of the 
last Gideon of Cadhay. The latter is out of tho 
question, for he was not bom until 1703. With 
regard to the two former, Thomas was baptised 
on January 34, 1071-3, and Robert must have 

4*3. TIL Fed. 18, ■71.1 


been upwftTdi of niteea jeara of age on Xaj 12, 
1680, for his u&me appears !□ the book of the rate 
levied at that date in Ottery St. Mary for the 
" reductjon of Ireland." I bare not succeeded ia 
tradng theee two brothers later than March 12, 
1686-6. I ebould be very slad to obtun further 
information about them or their progeny. 

I luaj add that Robert Hajdon, m^ great- 
giandfather, waa far mauj yeara the parwh clerk 
of Charles Cburcb, Flymoiith. He v/ob also a 
bookseller and printer, and is eaid to bare intrO' 
duced the first printiogpreas into Plymouth. His 
elder brother John wna pariah clerk of St. James's 
Church, Bristol Robert Haydon came, accord- 
ing to hiq only daughter, fruoi Ottery whea be 
■wia nine years of age, that U, in 1723, and was 
Mprenticed to a M>. Savery — probably Waltham 
avery, bora 1692, died 1778— of Skde, near Ivy 
Bridge, and afterwards acted as bis steward. He 
began life, on his own account, as a ugn-painter. 
The ruin of the Cadhay Haydona ia tup[Kiaed to 
hava been the cause of bis early appreoticeahip, 
«nd of that of his brother John. Cadhay was, 
however, not sold uudl 1730, and the Chaoceiy 
■ait which led to the Bale was not commeooed 
until 1739. 

Tbeyonngerbrotherof the last Cadhay IlaydoD, 
Tliomas, diedinl764. He hadtwo aonj^Thomas, 
• sorgeon, who died without iaeue, and Josiah 
(of Crewkerae), an attorney. The latter died 
1807, leaving two sona, William end Qeorge, and 
one daughter. The elder aon I believe to be 
identical with the Lieuteuant Williaia Haydon of 
Crewkeme mentioned by Lysona as being the 
repreaentative of the Haydona of Cadhay. 

FRtnE Scott Hatboit. 
Hwtoiii Sarie]'. 

The following song (or satire) ia translated from 
the French. It appeared origmaUy in the Con- 
fidiri of Fribourg (Switzerland), sndia probably 
written by one of the refuses nt preaent in that 
hospitable city. My version Is tolerably literal, 
although it was made hastily in a caf^ of Lau- 
tanne, and when the paper waa engaged "tbres 
or Ibtu deqi," to use the language of the garfon. 
James Henkt Dixon, 
"VemiUes, Jaa. 1, 1871. 
** Tbia oonm hoping it will find voa 
Well, •■ I im at my lonch, 
Wiihing dovn a Germsn sausage 
Wilb > bowl of Rhenisb punch.* 
I am in a mug apirtmsat. 
And mv flr« ia bltiiDc bright. 
■ How I jMty ll 



ItiiDC bright 


" We have gaiu'd lome noble trophies, 

Wb have haci some rare good fan, 
Burning Tillagea by liundreds, 

Farms and ho me^Ieids— sparing none. 
Countrv dimsela my bnire Mldicrs 

Take' foe wives witbout Ibe aid 
Of popiali priest or Lutheran pastor — 

More to tell yoa I'm afraid. 
"We've bombarded many a city. 

Killing infants at their play. 
What of that i smaU moatha want feediDg— 

Board ia clieap beneath the clay ! 
Stra^burg's daa and huze cathedral 

Nam has somewhat iTtered looki>. 
And we'd such aJoUy bonfira 

With a lot of fusty booka t 
"Think not that we stop at trifles; 

In a town we found a mayor 
Who naa loyal to his coantiy. 

So his worahip danc'd in air I 
In another place the prefect 

And his cJerk wa dii/n't hang. 
As 'variety is charming,' 

It with Vital was bangl bang I bang I 
"France is now in tribnlalioa ; 

iiettibutiuQ follows wrougi 
She is hi end iog jeremiads 

With De Osle's triumphant song. 
Would I were beside you hearing 

Victory's shouta from all arise ; 
Bert I've only widows' eursea 

Uix'd with orphan children'a criea. 
"But I'maltepy— midDightaoundelh- 
Wbatlathat? I know the tread. 
Hush, 'tis Biimatk t and he tells me, 
[ you must go to bed.' 


iocd, 'I 

So my letter I must end- 
Dear Auguals! aalatitiDQ 
From your spouse and loving friend.— W." 

(4* S. vi. 667.) 

These sheets wenttont of use (I think) in the 
first quarter of tba present century. In the more 
rural districts they may have continued later. 
When I waa at school, 1816-26, we used sheets 
with elaborate flourishiogs — birds, pen^ and such 

A few years sinne the old stoclf of a stetionet 
canie into my hands, and amongst it were some of 
these sheeta, new and clean, which I preserved, all 
coloured except one. I have the following (a few 
duplicates) : — 

Bath aod Boat. 

Meayring the Temple. (Ezekiel.) 
Philip baptizing the Ennocb. 
The Good SamariUn. 
Joahua's Command. 
John preaching in the Wilderness. 
The Seven Wonders of the World. 

King William lit. (-»(■». llr> 

Paor's Shipwreck. . i C) *. J y I L 

(All the above published by W. Belch, Bridge Sticli, 
Union Street, Borough.) 


(4*S.VII. F«B. IS,? 

Tbe Lord's Tnytr and Ten Commi 

If one Btrlking tbe Bock. 

HudiDg the Sick in the Temple. 

<FabUshed hj ELLuglaf, 173, High Stnet, Barongh.) 

C^n and Abel. 

UTeoTSBmnel. (Datadt828.) 

The TUkxu of Ez^ieL (DatM 1824.) 
Bath and Bou. 

(FaUidMd br Dtux & Mondiy, TbreadsMdle Street.) 
■TheCoronaUenorGtortnlV., JnljlS, ISII. 

Bilum blwdng lanet. 

LtreoTPbanah. (Not oolaond.) 

ChrlM healing the SMt. 

<Fubliabed by T. Fairtmm, 1 10, UlMriu.} 

Vetivilv of Jeaua Christ. 

(Fubli^ied b; W. Uaam, ai, Clerkniwell Green ) 

With them were a few (three or four) with the 
central part fiUed np, serTiDg io this state far 
decortktiona for the cott^eg of the lower chusee. 
This change -would indicate a fslting off in the 
demand from schools. 

We always called them spedmens or pieces, 
written first on loose sheets (many were spoiled 
and rejected as not good enoagh) and afterwards 
stitched together by the master and taken home at 
the holidays. I have seen nothing corresponding 
to either of late years. Sam. Ssiw, 


I well remember these Christmas exhibitions 
of handwriting; but I never heard them called 

*' Soripsita," but always " Christmaa pieces." They 
were sold hj statioDera for the purpose, and 
usually contained a large picture of the Nativity 
at the top, though neither the head nor tail pieces, ' 
nor those down the sides, were confined to sacred 
snbjeetB. The last I had #aB in 1606, and was 
•domed with coloured engraTings of national 
horoM and costume. In scbools, however, they 
were often superseded by hijf sheets of foolscap 
paper written upon lengthwise, and often 'orna- 
mented with flourishing of such figures as an angel, 
a nran, an eagle, or a pen. After the fVeooh 
Bavolutiin] the eagle was the great fovourite, 
and he granted a tcgotl inscribed "Liberty." 

F. C. H. 

The folio sheets alluded to by M. D. are still 
in nse, and are known as "Christmas ^eces." 
Some years a^ a comic song was very popular, 
of which the burden was 
" Would f oa like to look at tay Christina) piece 7 " 
The kte Mr. Herbert of Sadler's Wells, so 
famed as " that rascal Jack," used to dng it 
Pressed as a London chant; boy. In the enter- 
tainment of "Amateurs and Actors" the song 

was acoanonally introduced by Qeoffi? MufBneap, 
a rfiarity-boy, who had becmne factotuso to the 
manager of the " Theatre Bnral Finehley," 

" Flaise sh," said OeoflVv, " when I shovs Oat to 
gutaimem, they always giT« me ilxpsnoe." 

"Verywdl," s^d the manaijer, "HI follow t&s oas^ 
torn ) bat what's tkii, Otolbj f " (poiating to a bage 

"Plaate, air, /didn't 

my OkriMmai pitet as oftai a 

a gentleman, tod shall loo 
~ 1 as yen lite /«■ ih«1«i 

» at the bottom of the folio o 

Jakbs Hbitrz Dix<», 

(4"* S. TiL 12.) 

I. A man marrying a widow not an heinas, 
the daughter of one entitled to bear anus, would 
impale her paternal arms only, although, in coa- 
tracting a second marriage, he might, if so dis- 
posed (bat in ver^ questionable taste), impale the 
arms of both wives. In that event he would 
dispose his own coat on the righi of the line of 
impalement, and those of his two wives, parted 
per fesse, on the left — the upper portion of thie 
SQbdivinon being given to the paternal coat o£ 
his former wife. In praetiee tne arms of the 
first (or, if more than two, preceding wives) ar4 
nsualiT omitted. 

S. "tba issue of a gentleman not po e a os sed of a 
coat of arms— and uf such there are recorded 
examples, even in times when heraldry was sap- 
posed to possese a significance — whose father had 
married an heiress, would, I thinli, in the absence 
of a paternal coat, be entitled to use the plmn 
coat of his maternal, grandfather, whose line had 
merged in his own person. No such case could, 
however, happen in actual practice ; because a 
gentleman marrying an heiress, being without a 
coat of his own, would, if of the requisite social 
Btatua, obtain a grant ot arms from the Heralds' 
College on payment of the custamair fees, and on 
Uiese he would place the paternal arms of his 
wife in an " escutcheon of pretence," i. e. con- 
ttuned on a minute shield occupying the exact 
centre of his own. This is the usual way, though 
I believe it is patent to the husband in his option 
to adopt either this or the otdinarj form of im- 
palement Failing such grant, I presume it would 
De competent to the issue of such marriage to 
apjily to the College of Arms for a coat with 
which to quarter his maternal insignia. In any 
case, as I believe, his right to the armorial bear- 
ing of his mother's family would not be affected 
by the circumstance that his father did not pos- 
sess a coat of his own ; and although it is usual 
in such cases to quarter both coats, it is almost 

»8.TII.Fm. 18,71.] 


anperfiwHU to add, that a coat cannot lie quar- 
tared with l^at which does not exist. Until 
withiD a comp«ratiTBly recent period, the hosband 
csnewllj' impaled the anna of his wife, whether an 
Aaiieas or not. Occau<»iHllj' a husband (faaiiered 
the arms of his wife, being an heiiesa, m which 
«aaewe «re told "be geoeiaUf placed heiama 
tiefbve big tnni." J. Cbuiz^uiie Roana. 

1. In reply to the first queiy of W. M. H. C, 
aa to the suppoaitioa of a widow not an heireas 
mairying again, what axtae should her second 
husband impale, hei father's or ber former hns- 
faaud'a P I would aaj that a femrae not ao heiress 
would, on becoming a widow, retain the impaled 
anns of her deceased husband and herself upon a 
loMom; but in the event of her manying a 
aeeond lime, she would cease to bear her first 
hnaband's arms. But there is an exception t« 
ttiis genetsl mle, in the case of the femme being 
ttie widow of a peer. Tor if she were to marry a. 
commoner, she would still continue to bear the 
maa of her former burimnd on a separate lozenge ; 
and on -another shield, ber second husband would 
impale her paternal arms — the two farming a 
gronp, the lozenge yielding precedence. If, how- 
«»er, she were to marn' a lecond peer, she would 
not retain the arms of her former nuaband, unless 
hit ranh had been higher than that of her second. 
(See Botttell'B Berddry, Hutorical and Paptdar, 
•d. IS64, chapter on " IfoBhallmg," &a.) 

2. In regRid to the second queir, as to an 
"ignoMlia" marrying an heiress, couJd the issue 
beu the mother's arms in any way ? I will quote 
fe>m Mr. J. 'E. Oossaa'a Hcm^ook ef Heraldry 
(•d. 1869, p. 156) : — 

"If an %Tiob(lU.that j» anewithflntarmanal bearings, 
wxe to toMiTj Bi hdivH, he could mike no UM wbat- 
•mr of htr urns : tot, hrtviog no vaontcheon of hia own, 
ItueTideot b« could not cbirfe her sbidd of pretence; 
neither «oald Uieir issue, tieidg amble to quarter, be 
10 tieai their matemal east." 

Bat is thrae not an exception to this, in the 
ease of the baron marrying an heiress, and having 
iwne by her only one daughter, and subsequently 
manying again, having a boo P The latter would 
be lieir to the father, and the daughter to the 
mother. The daughter would here be entitled to 
bear ber mother's arms, and alao her father's by 
incorporation ; but in the caae W. M. H. C. puts 
(the father having no amis to be incorporated), 
still, would not the daughter he entitled to "bring 
in" her mother's arms alone to the coat of any 
fansband she might marry : in such a case cer- 
tainly guniag an advantage over her non-armi- 
geroDS half-brother P J, 8. Udal. 

- ■ ■ nanb. 


(4'^S.\rLfi67; vii III.) 

The "bookbinder ii«ar Leeds or Bkipton," t»- 

ferred to l^ P. P., was donbUssa Edwaris of 

Haliiax. Obqrsx U. Qbedt. 

27, King WOUam Street, Stnuid. 

I bare a bdmU Bible, pnrcfaBsed some twelve 
years ago In Chippenham, and then apparently 
new, on the edgaa of which are the names of the 
books in their proper order. The edges are gilt, 
and the names are visible only when the leaves 
are slanted. Hic xi tssivOs. 

Otte, W. 

A manusciipt folio volume in the library of 
Trinity College, Cambridge, contMning the poem 
of "Generides" and Lydgate's "Siege of Thebes 
and Troy," has its three edges ornamented with 
armoiial hearings, whi^ are the same as those 
on the margins and in the initial letters, and ap- 
parently belonged to some former possessors. The 
date of the MS. is about the middle of the 

somewhat later— perliaps the Kign of Hen. ^ 
My own impression is that the MB. was decorated 
in this way for a wedding present, and that tho 
arms belonged to members of the families so 
united W mar riag e. There viat a meniage in the 
reign of Hen. Vll. between two families wboaa 
arms I have been able to identify in the book. 

William Alius Wbiohi. 

I have always seen and beard Edwards of Hali- 
&X accredited with the production of tliose bodu 
bound at the baginniag of this cantur^ whidi 
have landscape sod other paintings aa tlteu' edgss. 
That be did produce some I tiiink there is «s 
little doubt as that tiie nvns of Little Oidding 
embroidered coveca for Bibles and Prajen in the 
seventeenth century ; but I do not belie**, indnfr- 
trioua as these nnna were, that they were the 
artificers of all or even neariy all the bindinfis of 
that character, and just so Edwards of Halifax 
has been oveiHiredited with work of the kind now 
in question, I have bad in my hands many of 
these books, and I think two of every three have 
borne the following inscnption: — "Boond and 
sold by Taylor and Hessey." I have one so iB« 
scribed, and have seen many others. I have 
occasionally seen Edwards's name affixed, and 
others have no name. 

Babil Mohtasu PiCEEEiHft. 

The following extract from a botdiseller's cata- 
li^e amy interest F. M. B. : — 

" 614. Roger's Fotm, piJDted by Benilej, with Wood- 
eati rrom Dnntiogs by Stotbatd, lilies aa India paper, 
first edUiw, I2mo, boDod ia blue moncoo, gilt, with a 



[4«S.VII. Fbb.18,*;1. 

cfasrmlDg culonred Drnirint; of Old Derby Ilridge on the 
gilt«d|[e,b}FEdw(udiorH»Iihx,I2L 1BI3." 

ThU temptiDg little Tolume wu offered for 
rale bj Ueasn. C. ft G. Noble, 812, Strand, in 
Cstalogue XXIII. 1868. W. G. Stoke. 

Elbteh SnnxniQ PiEcsa of CHAitLBs L (4" 
8. rii. 66.}— There never was kq English coin 
cunent of exactly the worth of eleven ahillingH. 
Early in the reign of Charlea I. there were anmU 
or ten-ehilliog pieces struck, the esUni&ted value 
of which was a little above eleven shillinga and 
fourpence. (Folketi's TaUgo/fn^fuA ffuU Owit, 
p. 8.) Possiblj, though not very probably, these 
ftre the coioa alluded to. Would K P. give the 
words of the will to which he refers f 311. 

Dekabius of Dbotus, Senidh (4*^ 8. viL 96.) 
There is no such coin as the one described bv 
J. H. M. to be found in either Kssche, Eckhel, 
• or Cohen. There is none even on which he bears 
the title of " Princeps Juventutis." 311. 

The Swah Sons op Pakson Avery (4"" S. vi. 
403; vii. 20.) — The Newbury mentioned iu this 
poem is a coast town in Massachusetts, about thirty' 
five miles north of Boston. The voyage undertaken 
by Parson Avery could have been performed under 
favourable circumstances in five or six hours, but 
it was Qecessary to double Cape Aun, a headlaod 
projeciiug into the Atlantic Hbout ten miles be- 
yond the general line of the coast Tlie scene of 
the shipwreck was a mile or two enst of this head- 
land, when the voyage was about half accom- 
Slished. Marblebead is a seaport town, about 
fteen milee north of Boston, and is so uamfd 
from its rockr site, though its rocks are not marble 
but sieoite. Newbuiyin Masaachusetts wasnaoied 
after Newbury in Berkshire, in compliment to the 
Bev. Thomas Parker, its first pastor, who had 
been a preacher at the latter place. Newbem, in 
North Carolina, is said to have been named hy its 
Swiss settlers after the capital of their own 
country, and is still frequently written New Bern, 
the finfj t being generally omitted. 

E. W. will find in the Neto EiMland Gaualoffical 
Skeionatyby Jitiaea Savage, voL i., art. "Avery," 
some account of Parson Avery and his family, and 
in Joshua Coffin's Hidory of Seiobiay the narra- 
tive that suggested the " Swan Song." These 
works can be consulted at the British Museum. 
J. M. B. 

The incident upon which this poem is founded 
occurred in 1636 oS Cape Ann, Alasa. A full 
account of it may be found under the title of 
"Antony Thacher's Shipwreck" in Alexander 
Young's Chronitiei of the Ftanten of Mattachn- 
»dt», p. 483. 

Mr. Avery, shortly after his arrival in this 
ooiintry, was invited to become the pastor at 

Marblebead, a place between Cape Ann and 
Boston. He sailed from Ipswich, the town ad- 
joining Newbury, in a pinnace, which had been 
sent for him from Marbleliead. On August 15 the 
vessel was lost, and out of the twea^- three per- 
sons on board only two were saved — Mr. Tbacher ' 
and his wife. They landed upon a barren island, 
which has dnce been known as Thacher's Island ; 
and the Rock of Avery's Fall, mentioned in the 
poem, is called " Averj's Eock." 

Mr. Avery was couHn to Sir. Thacher. Gov. 
Winthrop, in his journal, speaks of Mr. .\very as 
" a minister in Wiltshire [En^.] a godly man."' 
His baptismal name has been given incorrectly as 
John. The early records in Massachusetts give 
Joseph. Q. W. T. 

New York. 

"The Heivdio of the Lr.vd" (4"' S. vii.SS.) 
This famous old song is attributed to Pearce, in 
the collection called the Mutical Cyclopedia, by 
James Wilson, published in 1834 ; but I have na 
doubt that it was written by Charles Dibdin, to 
-nhom I find it assigned in the Book of English 
Songt, published in 1861. It bears the character 
of Uie many sea-songs of Bibdin. He died in. 
1814, and certainly I knew the soog several 
years before that date. I do not know the data 
of Ur. Richard Scnifton Shai-pe's death ; but be- 
sides the songs of his mentioned bv Dr. Dixon — 
" Poor Rose of Lucerne," publiehett as the "Swba 
Toy Qirl," and the two others— he was, I believe, 
the author of " The Minute Gun at Sea," which 
was once a great favourite, and which I have 
heard Braham sing with great sjurit and effect. 
The muMC was composed by M, P. King. 

F. C. H. 

The mu«c of this old sea-eong is by Shield ; 
may he not have written the words alao f I may, 
however, safely affirm that UE^ther this song dot 
the pastoral " Shepherds I have lost my love," 
was written by my father (the late Richard Scraf- 
ton Sharpe) : they are both of too old a date. I 
beg to thank Dr. Dixon for his very gratiryiog 
noiice of my father's works. The pastoral to 
which he alludes (he will excuse my correction) 
is entitled " The Wreath," the firat line being — 
"Shcpherdii, tell me, hava jou use my Flora piu tbii 

A song on the same model, "The Captive to bia 
Bird, was also set to music about the same time 
by Maizingbi, but seems to be quite forgotten^ 
while "The Wreath" has a world-wide fame. 

ElRKSANTON (4'* 3. vi. 387.) — la my query 
this place was incorrectly stated to be in Fumess. 
It is in Cumberland, between the rivoro Irt and 
Mite, about three and a half miles from the sea. 


k6tes and queries. 

Gnx (4'* S. Tt. 417, SSI ; vii. S7.)— The gun at 
Muiboioush Hill, ttmp. Edw. I., was prolwblr a 
" gouoe, « larp barrel " (lee Giambatid), and the 
booped ordDfmce migbt eanlf take the name at e 
Uter date. Walsitigiiaiii ditrtinctl/ saja that can- 
non was a Ficnch term. Qjn is na< " a snare,' 
' but an eoiniie of war ; it ia still in use with ar> 
tiUet^mim and engineers for a sort of shears for 
faoistiDK guos, &c. 

MidEHziB E. C, Waicoit, B.D., P.S.A. 

Thb Didactic PoitTRr <yt Italt (4* S. tS 
414, 537.) — There are few better authorities on 
Italian literature than Mb. Qbeket, by whom mj 
inquiry as to the earliest didactic poem in Italian 
vas answered in the last Tolume of "N. & Q." 
p. S37. He assumes that the Aixrha of Cecco 
d'Ascoli, a contemporatj of Dante, and the Sfera 
of Oregotio Dati, who died in 1436, maj claim 
priority over the Eegola dapicmtare Melaranci of 
Coltenuccio. But this must depend upon the 
character of the works referred to. Strictly speak- 
ing, anything which teaches in \et*e la a didactic 
poem ; but we term is usually confined to a poem 
which teaches and illustrates a spedSc subject. 
In ICnglish ver^e we may take as an example 
ArmBtiong'i Art of prtiervingffea/th, one amongst 
manv. Is the Acerba, then, of this description ? 
Tiraboscht mentions it (vol. v. lib. II. cap. 2, xviii.) 
as treating of many matters fpt'il argomttUt) in 
physics, moral philosophy, and religion, which 
would asngn it to a difietent category ; and the 
^era, perhaps, nay be classed as descriptive 
mote than didactic. I have not at present an 
miportnni^ of examining either of these works. 
Some of your readers, who live nearer than a 
hundred miles to the British Museum, may be 
more fortunate, and I shall be glad to hear the 
result Unless the poema in question are showii to 
h«Btrictlydidactic,CoI]enuccio will Btilt be entitled 
to the distinction of having written Ihejirit didae- 
Uepoem m Ilaliaa. W. M. T. 

" Rrs HOC TOCABI DEBET," BTa (4* S. Tli. 96.) 

FiJ> Martial's .^)^ain^ buokiu. No.G8,lineS], 
ed. Schneidwin. W. A. B. C. 

Li Cakaooik (4<^ S. Tii. 34.) — In the last 
edition of the Diclioaan/ of tfie Spanuh Academy, 
Caracol it described as a mollusc of tbe uie of a 
nut in an orbicular shell, open-mouthed, and in 
the form of a half-moon. 

" CoTORlTX. Faire la atraal, Moldiers (0 cut tb«m- 
idTca into a nnmd or ring." 

Does it not mean retiring backwards from the 
presence of royalty, the body being bent in tbe 
form of a half-moon P , F. W. C. 

CUpbsm Park,S.W. 

Thia is a term of horMmanship : "the half- 
turn which a horeemim makes either to the riffht 
or left." (fiaHeff.) We may therefore infer tnat 

as the noble* left the Duchess of Parma, they 
made in token of reverencs alternate hows to tha 
right and to the left, walking backwards till they 
reached the door. F. C. H. 

" It's a tab Cbt to Loch Awk " (4* 8, tL 
606; TO. 42.) — Let me refer tout correapondeots 
who have written on this subject to the Legmd 
of Monlroee. The expression is used by one of 
the Campbells, when Captain Dugald DaJgettv is 
in the presence of the Marquis of Argyll, ana ia 
beginmng to be afraid at the danger to which the 
sacred person of au ambassador was likely to be 
exposed. The phrase there is given as "It's a far 
cry to Lochow. The passage will he found in the 
twelfth chapter. Johs Picxfors, lU.A. 

Ballon Percf, nur Tadcwtcr. 

Insbzbs : " Rubhwobtb's Historical Col- 
LBCTioNS" {4'''8.Tii.42.)— I am very doubtful 
whether the enterprise suggested by your corre- 
spondent would receive adequate support. Some 
years ago I projected a series of indexes, and actu- 
ally completed (among others) the gieatcr portion 
of Bushworth, but, though without desiie forpe- 
cunisij gain, I was unsuccessful in the endea- 
Tour to find a puhlisher. " No one," it was said, 
" would waste print or paper over them ! " Pub- 
lication by subaeriptiott, however, might possibly 
answer. I should be happy to complete my 
work, which, I may venture to say, is that of an 
experienced and expert hand, and divide the coat 
of printing amon^ as many subscribers os were 
forthcoming, provided thej were numeioas enough 
to keep the price of copies within reosonaUe 
limits. Tho. Satchell. 

H. U. Cattotnt, Charlag Crou, W.C. 

Kbyto "Le Gbanl Cteus" (4"" S. vi. 387, 
616; vii. 44.)-S. W. T. will find a key to X# 
Grand Cynu in the first volume of SI. Victor 
Cou'in's work La Sociiti fran^aiit au xvii' Siiele, 
vol. i. p. 364. The first and second volumes of the 

Knderous romance were published, not in 1660, 
t in 1649. "Achevfa d'imprimer," says the 
oyal privilege, "le 7 Janvier 1640." 

OuBiAVB Mabsok. 
Wkavkb's Abt (4"" I 
hardly assume unknown 
"Wuvs the wiTp and 

The wlnding-sbeet of Edward'* race." 
Virien, in Tennyson's lA/IU— 

" pot forth the charm 
paces and of waving hands," 
and Scott tells us— 

Vh 1 whit a (SDgled mb we team 

Whaa flnt ire practlM to deceivs " i 

but Shakspeare supplies many allusions to the 

weaver's art, such as in AITi Well that Endt Well, 

Act IV. Sc. 8, where one of the French lords say^ 

" "" ' ..... ingitd yam "; ' 

vii. 67.) — Gray I can 
R. P. Q.— 

The wet ^ our Ule is of e 


NOTES ANI)' QUERIES. [4>» a. tu. Fm vn rt 

iMotMiofsn to it (HIMm<^ T^AoVL S&2); 
tod. aameroiu iMteaM*- miffbt <»eird jour' apace, 
1IIII iillj if tbe spdar w o r e enliatod in the sor- 
nce. (S«e Merdumt of Venice, Act IIL Ss. 2; 
Troiiut md Cr»*mda, Aot V. Sa. 2, &o.) 

W. T. M. 

&9M iru 80 represented, holdiii| im ■ Ottwn in 
b» laft hand, in • muBkl ptuatiog m Eaton Chiuch, 
near Norwich. She wu qneen of Lonia Xli. 
of Fruce. She founded a leligiona order of the 
.Aauuneiation of the B. V. Hary, and took the 
halnt of it herseUl bat died the vear faUowing. 
F. C. H. 

"Thb PRoraoAr Son" (4" 8. to. 560—1 
kare B set of woodouts illaatratiiig the parable ; 
tbajr an black upon white, published by M. Den- 
ton, Ho^iital Qate, West Smithfield, Laodon, Jan. 
10, 1795 (I think that daseribwl bj J. T. F. a 
copy of the same work coloured). J. T. F. may 
lure a n^t of it T. S. A. 

CiHKOH (J" 3. vii. 68.)— If the Italian word 

appears to have lost that meaning bj the begin- 
ning of the serenteenth century ; for in Florio's 
lfn> World of Word! (Lond. 1611) it is not so 
ezpluned, though other renderings are given 
besides "any cannon," which is the first One 
rendering of mmut is " tbe bore or concavitie of a 
Tuece." In Hlnsheu's Spamih and EngUik Die- 
Mnary (Lond. 1699) there is no aUunon jto the 
word omt meaning "an andent piece (^ordnance." 

B»ij. CiRBim (4"' S. tii. 97, 130.)— Allow 
me to answer one of my own questions. Benjunin 
Carier was the son of Anthony Carier, a learned 
and devout preacher. Benjamin became Fellow 
of C. C. 0. Camhndge, chapiNn to James X., and 
Fellow of Chelsea College. He joined tl>e Church 
of Itome, and went to Liige in G^ermany. He 
died before midsummer, 1614. (See Wood a Fatd 
Oxott. and Bohn's Lotendet.) J. M. Cowfbb. 

Uay not "R. C, QtmL" be Richard Caiew, 
who translated Hnarte and part of Taaso P 

Qbobo£ M. Orekh. 

27, King WaUam Street. Stnmd. 

" TsB Adobatiov OB THK Laxb," bic. (4*^ S. 
Ti. 386, 660.)— The following inscription, painted 

1 the frame of this important work, is tukeo 

Vym. Ob tfie «h of May, in the year 14B2, 
theea pictoMa weie oonpleted). We stiU reqisn 


Ihcbfit I poNDv>qvR JabanDHi abte nKauHCTB 


TbbsV bhXta Mil Voe CoI^LoCAt' aOta tVkbI + 

(The painter Hubert Van Eyck, a greater was 
never found, began, and hie second hcother (John) 
completed the work, at tbe instance of Judocus 

) prophets att«l sibyli. 

1 am very gratefnl to F. C. H. for hia tUiuMo 
trandatioD. W. Mauk. 

Clabbitcb (4*^ S. vi.'6O0.) — I cannot give 
L. B. 0. any information about William Clarence, 
nor do I know if John, Bastard of Clarence, mar- 
tied or lelt issue. HsBumnatrvB. 

Db BoHBir (4" 9. vi. 501 ; m 24.)-l. Oa a 
cap of maintenance, a lioa oiowned (Bontall's 
aeraldry, plate Izvi.) 

S. 1 cannot ascertain. 

3. I can offisr A. F. H. a pedigree of the family 
with full chronological details, if he would like to 
have iL In two or three g«ieratioQS Uie gene- 
alogy is almoflt iBeztrioablv confused, and what 
notices can be found on the rolls eimply make 
matters worse. Does A. F. H. demre more de- 
tailed " particulars " than are given in such woiks 
at Dugdale'a Barottaget IS he wishes for the 
pedigree, will he please to let me know P 


MS. AinoBioaBiPBT of toe Natttbll Sok 
OP Kcto Richabd ni. (4* S. vi. 667.)— Sir 
Edward Bering was right Mh. Tew will find 
what he inquires about set forth in The Lad of 
the riantagen^, an interesting historical narra- 
tive published by Smith £ Eider m 1830. It was 
by tbe ancestor of the present Earl of Wincbilsea 
that the " person " therein named was emploved 
to superintend the works at Eastwell. Mr. Tsw 
will find some notes of mine referring to Lord 
Lovet and to this mTSterious son of Richard IIL 
in " N. & Q." for November 13, 1868, and also 
for January 1, 1869. Ishall have much pleasure 
in lending Mk. Tiw the book in question by his 
addressing a line to me. S. WiHs. 

HsteMck, Y«ovll, SonierMt. 

In Evans's Old BaBadt, vol. iv. p. 31 ed. 1784, 
Mr. Tew will find appended to a ballad c^kd 
" lUchaid PlantageneC," by Mr. Hull, almost all 
the authentic information extant as to the object 
of hia query. Eastwell Pflrk was then — thtf is, 
in the reign of Henry VII.— the property and 
residence of Sir Edwfud Movie, not Daring, and 
from bim descended by an heiress to the Finches, 
in whom it is still vested. The Duke of Aber- 
com has of late years rented it from the trustMS 
of tbe present Earl of Winchilsea, A reference 
to the Btory occors in a MS. pedigree of the 
Lofties, who were seated at Westwell, tbe ad- 
joining parish, in tbe same rdftn : one of tbem 
IS said to have come from Yorkshire in charge of 
Richard Plantagenet. A Richard Loftyee is 
named in the regiatera as having been buried 
there in 1660. He was bom in 1489, and, bi>- 



cording to tbe MS., wh called after th» Uitfg. 
TbB nama "Bieliard" doea not again occur in 
tfae familj, wliich nas afterwaida Beat«d in Smeeth 
pBiiBh, in the church of which are nanv of their 
moDumeuta. See Haal«d's &at, folio, 1790, 
ToL iiL p. 293. Fira Kichakd. 

Id the yoar 1774 waa published e 4to pannphlet 
of iv. and 30 pi^es, with tfae folloimig title, 
" Siciard Pianlagenet ; a Legendary Tale. Now 
first pabtished by Mr. Hull." Jt is a poem, with 
s dedication to Bavid Ganick, and some account 
of the hero, who ta reraeeeutAd to have been a 
natural aon of Bichard III. Johk Wtuos. 

Shkbrwokt (4'* S. Ti. 602 ; Yii. 25.)— 
'*ShaTe-wort. Aster sea Ingninalia, ^c dicta, quia 
Bnbana extus *dDiitB pat«it«r ruppoiat.'' — Skinner 
(Stq>.}, EtrmotegietH Lhguti Auflkata. 1671, mi aoc. 

Edwasd Fb&cock. 
The Block Bookb (4<» S. ii. ;iaan'>n .- vii. 13.) 
I do not propoae diicussing the matter of the 
Uock-books, because I bold tbat it raUier reeta 
with Mr. H01.T to show, if he can, tbat the re- 
ctired opinion is falae. At present he fane net 
done so, ea far as I know. But I would c&utioit 
your reedera that faia firat aesertioD with reapect to 
at Christopher was that the date had been tam- 
pered with. From tfae direetoesa of the assertion 
no one would have dreamt that it waa made with- 
out hia flTer having seen the print. Now he bnt 
seen the print and finds that snch a position it 
absurd, be has started the theory of the print 
being later^an the printing, or perhaps I abould 
say, later than the matter printed, which is, in 
my opiniofr, qiute as untenable as hbfoitneraa- 
aertion. J. C. J. 

Adam be Orlbtoh (4'" S. vii. 53.)— Mb. Henkt 
F. Holt's very powtivo denij of Adam de Orle- 
ton'a misdemeanours miut be founded upon sources 
of informa^a not commonly known to the 
readwaof history; andthereforu, ae onedb^etber 
«:-t„_=..>j ;„ .i|a HuWeot," he will, I am sure, 
la to direct me to them. 

EDMrsB Tew, M.A. 
PatdiinK Recloiy, Arandel. 

S72, 486 ; vii. 41.)— The execution of John Tlwwlia 
at Manchester has been incidentally named in con- 
nection with this subject Br. Neale is, I believe, 
m error as to the place where this martyr died. 
Challoner gives an account of his death on the 
day named, but at Lancaster; and I understand 
from Mr. Bone, who fans a MS, copy of tfae ballad 
la wkieh Br. Neale r^en, that it asreea with 
Cballoner's aceount in this respect. Tfaewlia is 
not the onlv one executed at Lancaster whose 
snvder baa Men attribtited to Absebeater, aa may 
be seen by reference to a paper contributed to the 
StUqtuay (vol. x.) by the present writer. 
In 1865 appeared — 

" O HoUw, Dsu JwMtkmt Tbs Oia Hymn, ila 
Origin and Genealogy. Edited by William C Piim^" 
NewTorli. 8TO,pp-92,— 

which b thus nodeed in Triibner's Xifsmty Ac0nf 


J thi< win be an accept- 

Oavid MotionVventan of 

the well-knawn bvme, with variona mors nadem and enr- 
rent versions ; and in tfae Appendix the hymn of QildS' 
beit, and an extract from the hymn of Bernard de 

William E."A, Axon. 

Joynson Street, Strangeways. 

DR.JoHHSOB'9WAiCH(4*S;vi.276,465[ viL 

56.) — In answer to your correepoDdent on the 

above aubject, in Boswell'sZi/tf 0/ JoAnton, vol. iL 

p. 35, 1 find the following : — 

"At tbis time I observed upon the dial-plate of his 
watch* a short Greek inecription, taken from the New 
Testament- N6J yip IpX"™, being the first worda of our 
Savioor's solemn admonition lo the improvement of that 
time which is allowed ni to prepare for eternity : 'The 
nigbt Cometh when no man can work.' He some time 

aftenrards tsid ai 
n lt» re 

a dIal-pUti . 
1, be said, 'It might di 

T wdl a 

I adied 

"interested L 
to far oblige m 

have It 

upon hia watch which 'be canie* about with liim, and 
which ia oflen looked at by others, might be cenmied as 
ostentatioiis.' " 

Mr. Steevens is now possessed of the dial-plata 
inscribed as above. Chables Hditoh. 


CoMvrnAL SoNOB (4* S. vi. patam: vii. 68.) 
One of the beet I ever heard was produced at tha 
Adelphi Theatre about forty years ago. The 
music was composed by Marschner the German ; 
the words I fo^^t, but the idea was drinkinf^ to 
the four seasons. Can Mb. Bizoh help me to tfae 
words P James Oilbebi. 

51, Hill Street, Feckham, S.E. 

Post FBOPHECiEa (4"' S. vi. 370, 396, 488; vii. 
43.)— The lines, or string of prophecies alluded to 
by L. C. H., were in French, in which language I 
first saw them, I b^ere, in 1848. They nu 

Je ne vondreia pas ^tra roi en 1848. 

Je ne voadraia paa-etre pr^Ueea 1M9. 

Je ne vondrais pas £tre soldat en 1S50. 


linw) 1861. 

Of the laat date, I am not soro : but the whole 
thing was conspicuousljr worthless aa a projphecy, 
and clum sy aa a fabriealion. F. 0. H. 

I copied from- a nswepqiet (I tbinli in 1848, 
from a local one in TaimtoD, where I then resided) 
tfae following; — 

* 9ir John Hawkins says, that 661 watch wu the 
first Johnson ever poswated. It was ntada f«r him by 
Madge and. Dntton in I76t. They wen oelebiated 
watebmahen of tbs last emtnry, and their shop, situated 
at tl^ left comer of Hind Coitrt, waa tin last In Flee*' ^ 
Street to nnderM the sweepiag ordeal of m 
which it (Scsped up to the year 1850.— Ed. 


[<" S. VIL Fib. 18. 71. 

* Tba foDovIng prophtcj hM long bnn carrait in Gir- 

"I would not be ■ kioE in 1848. 
I would not be * aoldler ia 1849. 
1 would Dot be > graveniigger in 1850. 
But I would be wbalever 70a please in 1851." 
Did »nir of jour readers ever meot with the 
followingP I copy it from the Ometlry Berald at 

" Fnnce respected. 
Spun infecled, 
Sweden neglected, 
Pni»si« dpJMled. 
U iMhief prqj ecled, 
Turlier detected. 
Greece unprotected, 
Kuasla luspected, 
Mediation rejected. 
Auetrie coaneeted. 
Iial^ dluSbcted, 
England expected 
To »e all corrected." 

DouK OK Dtjk (4'' S. ti. GOO ; vii. 22.)— All 
the stages 01 post towns from Bartford to Dover 
durioc; the Roman dominatiou had IMir as a pre- 
fix, ttus; — DuTobreTia (Rochester*), Diuolenum 
(Milton next Sittinghoume), DuroTemumt (Can- 
terbury }). The prefix being the Celtic word for 
water. A. J. DcifKIM. 

44, BessboroDgb Garden), S. BelgriTia. 

Fakilt 0? Jbhbottk (4'" S, viL 66.)— Mb. 
Chubch is douhtless aware that the pedigree of 
Jennour of Essex is given in the Harleisn MS. 
No. 1137 (in the British Museum), which con- 
tBiDS the Visitation of Essex m 1J35S. 

H. Jkhhbk-Fusi, Jvhb. 

" God madb Maw," etc. (i" S. vi. 346, 426 
487 J Tii. 41.) — In reply to your correspondent 
F. S, I would refer him to Tie Lotudate Maga- 
Bme, vol. i. p. 612. (A. Foster, Eirkby Lonsdale, 
1820), for a few remarks on the lines in question. 
As thia magazine is now very scarce, perhaps you 
will kindly allow space for a short quotation from 
an article on " Bustic Poets." 

« Jobn OMland waa on Inhabituit ot Oosthwaite, and 
■ member of the Sodety of Friends. Ha existed aboat 
the beginning of the lost centuiy. Hie propensitj to 
tiiffming waa such, that many of bis rhi/aa, is Ihe^ are 
piOTlnciany called, are still repented by Ibe older mba- 
Mtanta of the nelghbOHrbood. Tbe smartest of John's 
rAjwK was made on the occasion of hit beiDg^nt to 
ttiiMe (as It Is proptrly termed in the provlDdal dialect) 
by a lawyer for some debt which he bad iacnrred at 

* In tbe SaxoD. period DorobreTis was cbinged to 
Be (river) CsArntR (castle), the Qiitlt hf Ihe Rhtr. 

t Tbe change from Daroreranm was to its pre- Roman 
name, lA* (% of llu Gntii. even as Paris returned from 
its Boman appellation of Lntetia to the Ci^ nftie Paritii. 

X WhcmlwasasehoalboyUie translation oftbis name 
was. In the Eton Latin Grammar, given as " Dover." I 
do not know whether this cnrioni error Is still per^ 

"God mead men. 
And men mead money ; 
God mead bees, 

An' bees mead honq' ; 
But tbe D— I mead lawyers an'^tomies, 
Andpleao'd'emat U'atonandDotan i' Fomess." * 
jr. P. MOBRIS. 

IT Sutton Street, LiverpooL 

Marihb Robs (4'" S. vi. 436, 484; vii. 46.)— 
In-default of a very minute investigation of the 
Fleetwood rose, 1 possibly may have ascribed to 
it a vrrong apeci Gc name in that of epinotUtiTna, 
Yet, with all deference to A MuBiTBiAir, I think 
I have not done so; which opinion, I venture to 
imagine, is streogthened by ceitainevidence I hete 
bejr permiflrion to adduce. 

H. C. Watson, in The New SUanut/ Guide, p. 
256, says fromhia own personal knowledge " that 
Mota tpinoeitnma grows plentifully on Uie sand- 
hills on the Cheshire coast." And T. B. Hall, in 
the Flora of lAverpool, atates " that the Eoia 
tplnosiaeima ffrowa abundantly on the sand-hilla 
both on the Lancashire and Cheshire shores of the 
Mersey." I have seen the plant growing in the 
situations named above, and always considered it 
to be identical with the one that grows in such 

5 refusion in the neighbourhood of Fleetwood. Sir 
, E. Smith, in his description of Jtoea rubeBa, in 
Sowetby'a Engtith Botany, says "that it is well 
distinguished from if. tpinoiimma by its eqaal 
prickles and oblong (not round) crimson penduloua 
fruit." The same author's description of the JR. 
epinoeieeima is, " that its fruit is erect, ffoftular, 
quite smootA, of a dork-red purple colour, chang- 
ing when ripe to blaek." 

In reply to a query of mine on the subject, I 
have a letter before me from a lady who WWO 
redded at Fleetwood (and who knew well the 
beautiful little rose in question), in which aha 
says " that tbe rose had creamy white petals, and 
that its hip, or fruit, when ripe is quiie hlack and 
round, scarcely distinguishable from a lai^e black 
currant,'' I shall have pleasure in forwarding 
Mk. Edwik Lbes a specimen of the plant when it 
is in flower. Jakss Pbabson. 

Uilntow, near Rochdate. 


S«iipirio dt pTofundU ; Ui»g tht Sequel to Oie Omftttknit 
of an EagliA Opium Riltr, and other MUc^laneota 
tFrUiugi. Bf Thomas de Qulncey. (A. A C. Black.) 
Tbe admirer* of that profound and original thinker, 

Thomas de Qolnoey, ought to be verygrslafnl to Messia. 

* Tltventon and Daltoa in FomaML 


*»8.TILFbd. IB,': 


A. & C BUck for thii aopplemental Toluma of bia writ- 
iagi, wbicb fomu tbe KTenteenth of iheir colleettd edi- 
tioD. ]t cont>]DB, u far u ibe publtebera ars aware, Ibe 
Tonalndei of bia aeattered wriUnm — alaive portion being 
Bcqnlrcd tmm the onKlnsl pnbliihen, Meun. Uoec ji 
Son, and which bad Ilie benefit of the aathor'a revinon. 
"He Tcmalnder, indading the " Notea from the Pocket- 
book of an Eogliah Opinm Eater," and tbe "Hiitorico- 
Critical InqDiry into the Origin of the fioaicrneiani and 
FreentaKnu," have been npiiuled from the old /xnuAn 
Jlfinunir, where ther originsIlT appeared aide hy aide 
with tbe deliehtfnl Enaya by Elia, In reprinting tbia 
latter paper, Hasan. Blaclt have done good aervlce to 

We ha™ here, in 75b Farhma of Nigtl, Sir W/lMr'» 
maaterij portrait of the Britiah Salomon, and hia graphic 
ikelchea of Aiaatian life in Whitefrian ; and the volume. 
like its predeMaaora, la made mora tiartu by Glossary and 

Dtbrttt't Uluitrattd Ttotat of Ginnnou md the Judicial 

Bauk, 1871. CmpUrd and tdittit by Robert Henrv 

Hail. fcrxma/fy raiitd bg lit Xtmbcrl of Parlm- 

WUMI and lAt Judga. (Dean A Son.) 

Of tbia well-timed volume (which Is marked by a 

pecaliarilT which deserves notice, namelv, engravings of 

tbe arms bame hy tbe counties, cities, and boroughs le- 

torning Hembera to Parliament), it may sofllce to say 

that it is in sverr respect a fitting aa it la almoat an 

indiapensable cnrnpanlon to DtbriU't Pttragt and Dt- 

Iretfs SaraaU^ axd Sitighlagt, lately noticed by us 

with deaerred commendation. 

TU EUtory of Hie Parochial Chaptliy of Gonmirnh, in 
A* Comn^ofLamcaiUr. Bg Henrj- fiahwick, F.H.S. 

of Ifae pari& of Kirkbam, ia Ainoaudemess, and included 
Qtt tAwnahips of tioosnargh, Whittlngbam, and Sewa- 
ham, haa been so fortunate aa to find two gentlemen who 
baTS taken such interest in its history and the taialorv of 
tbefkmiliea connected with It, as to devote considersble 
time and labour to tbe coilection of materials for a work 
npoo the aabJBCt. The dntof these ia Mr.RichardCook- 
BDO, ■ realdeut there, who baviug been prevented from 
eviring into eSbct bis intention to publiab the result of 
his laboors, tcit liberally communicated them to Major 
Fishwiek, who first visited Goosnargh in search of gene- 
alogical infbrmation some years aince. The result ia a 
TidaiiM very creditable to the Induatry and intelligence of 
the two gentlemen in question — one of oonaideTable in- 
terest to all Lancashire antiquaries, and of course of 
eapedal Interest to all who are at all connected with the 
diqieliy of Goosnargh. 

Hkw .Dutch PeriODiCAI~— Under the tille of Ome 
£«w (" Out Century"}, a new fortnightly journal haa 
been started at Amsterdam onder the ediloiahlp of Hr. 
H. Tiedenian, a gentleman to whom the readen of 
■N. ft Q." have been n^jaently Indebted. In addition 
to tBiSMUaneiHU, hjatorlcal, bi^raphleal, and political 
wtiela^ It ii proposed thateaeh nambersboold coataln : 
a Design poulieal rariew (on European and American 
matters gaieralty) \ a national political review (on Dutch 
matters only); a fortnightly chroniile (fur incidental 

nd lastlv, a biblio- 

ant publicatiooa of 
. of aB new l>ooks 

books on history, or polltloa, &c.) ; 

Etaphy, comprising — reviews of re 
istorlcal or political interest; ■ li 

published in the world, arranged alphabetically; ■ 

mary of the contenta of various periodicals, which ara 
either entirely devoted to biatory and polities, or whieh 
contain articles of historical or pditical Interest. 

AvavSTUB Afpleoith.— The death at Dartlbrd, at 
the age of eighty-four, of Ur. Applegath is annooneed. 
He was tbe origioator of some Important improvements 
in the art of printing, " tbe inventor," says the FellMaU 
" " " of tbe com position-ball and composition-roller. 

d atlerwRrds of the ateam f 
■ention of b. 

It could not be foived be re- 
ceived [rom the bank anthoritie^ IS.QOOL He also In- 
vented a machine for printing all colours at onca Tbe 
patent for the eteam-piess was in the joint names of 
Cowper and Applegath. The first bookprintad by steam 
was WaCerton's Waaderingi. Mr. Applegath subsequently 
established great silk and print works at Cravford and 

The DiRBcroKSHir or ths Katioxal — 
Itia reported that Mr. Boxall, S.A., whose term of oDea 
ihortly, will not be likely to yield to the wishes 

fof Unl 


OxFOHt). — The valuable theoltwical and general llbrai 
belonging to the late Rev. Dr. PTumptre, Hast 
vereity College, is announced for ssle at the 
Hotel, on Thursday and Friday next wedt 

Caubrii>oe.— The library Syndicate hare issued a 
leo^tby report with reference to tbe new edition of the 
University OrrfuuMoost (the old one being Ineoraplele^ 
which they hara prepared. There are discrepandca be- 
tween the rules now published by the aothotjty of the 
Syndicate and thosB which have been from time to time 
couflrmed by the Senate. 

PnorEsaoB LiaBTioor. — Xo small amonnt of aatls- 
fsction will be felt by tbe public when they are informed 
that the Hulseut Pnifessor of Divinity, so well known 
for bis work on the GalaCians, Ac, has been nominated 
W Mr. Gladstone to the vacant canonrv at St. Paul's. 
Dr. Lightfoot'a recent noble benefactions to tbe Univer- 
sity of Cambridge will be fresh in the minds of our 

St. Andrew's.— The Senatns Acadcmlcus of the Uni- 
versity have JBSt conferred the degree of LL.D. on the 
Dean of Weatmiuiter. 

The CoMOBiaaioHAi, Libbabt.— This library con- 
tains 167,668 bound voI^me^ and 00,000 pamphlela. 
Under the operation of the new copyright law, the library 
received during the past year 174 book^ 8140 pamphleta 
and periodicals, S891 miujcal compoaltlons, 1175 engrav- 
ings, photographs, and chromos, 1420 prints, 146 maps 
and charts ; total, 11,51!. 

The Abbey op Hato.— The Rev. P. Sheridan is en- 
deavouring to laisa afnnd for the preservation and partial 
'-'- of this Bndent bnildlng, wbich, accor^ng to 

lite abbey having been thrice burned by the 
in the thmeenth century, plundered by Sir 
William Da Bnrga. 

hasDoti iHSEBSATioirAL ExDiBniof or 1871. — 
Mr. J. C. Buckmaster haa been appointed by Her lia- 
jeaty'a CommlsslDners to deliver an address on the value 
of the Exhibition, and its bearing on industrial inatraa- . 
lion, deugned particularly fbr the workine-claases in aH j ^ 


[*" S. TII. Fbb. 18, "71. 

" Rsvtnt DCS Dbdx Moiu»a."~-'Mani. BkHU^ 
„ the l^adiui uants, liive received official notice 
le editon thkt the 

Wk ue Terr nny to hav thit onr cantemporar? 
Tie AwjfaDom'hu ■Uqqnd lU pnblioatliui with iu last 
fito.*fiSTO. Bibliogmphr does not par-M a rule, b«- 
CMue it interesta but a eelect circle of dtlMaxti. In hla 
five Tolnnua, printed at 250 copies only, M. Beijean has 
gathtnd a gnat deal of most valuable InrDrmation. The 
nuUBisiu EBC^imiles whioh illnatrate bis ddi^ hare been 
dnnni aod engraved by bia own banil, and have the 
merit not to be betUr than the origiaaU, becaiue be 
never toBohni a graver before being flrty yeais of age, 
and haa never nea a profewionil engraver at work. 



^oUctH to enrrci^iantrniU. 

USKKD.— W. LoBD is riftmd lo "N. & Q." 1" 8. vliL 
321, 368, 601. 

To Kia.—W. wiU JImd Ai mmf Bogvbnn u any Gtr- 
nai dietirman/. Maiaa%,i^otl OKllnrtly umt diwfrthw 

CiuzT Tales ■ 

-wUannlatliigto Mr. Ctaiw't famUn, kt it remi—ttd 

HimttT, RtotOT, 'Ba^, IfS: 

Bl"iifrfrrt lnliH i| [1hmr ii Hr 'i ""* i 



AtlCnCTB. At UwlT HodH. 0, IWnatn *qBMn. W.C., « 
fDAT. FrtKBTT I7lh. > Valnilllf COI.IiB(mON of 
FOHEI QW Aim xia APHS . tnrJodLuiuiiii vciT Ane uid ma 
•dtnc'EdiiaMIV., Hnrr'rv „ BU»tiKh, J«t« I.. ILrMdnTl 
rlo I.. CrsmvaU. lohs W»]>t, Jubn Lock^ W. C<iiT|wr. Bul- 



HOWARD, SoTgeon-DoDtist, S2, Fleet Street, 


(n4 ■ODHliunniKirNa. IMANILA CIOABS, In aimlltBleDa- 
nvpuiltd bj A nmltunrf. 


H pwndlar ad rtoaikablt HtartlH Lb 

-*~ — nUni ud nHns Hiij. S«r1i 

lUiahmtad Prae JJiU Grmtit amd PoU-Frtt. 


a7.Bt.PHiriChiiTcli7kTd,LtiiulDDin.Lar4BMtt»li1iBrpaglTt !/-> 
M.CnHftr*M, HmiiDlitltai and WglTHhHBptin. , 1^ 

4lS.Vn. FBn,!5,'71.] 




CONTENTS,— ir» I( 

If of tbe Ww. 

SOTESj — CiyrtrnMhy, IBS- Another St 
lG8-l*.A.L.or''iriQ,"--CliAlCTiii eu E-paeHB - 
ScnlticlaniBia Ameri™ — Ewlrn'»"DiBry": Q^uitlcO* 
— CbiiUeftboiui Uonle* — CaateiuriBii*. US. 

QVK&IBS: -The Bnikeii Bridge, lao - " Aiithak«ik 
nnr,..li4 »[ »..»t™ti."_4,Bry Fedigree - ArtiflcUl r5- 
"TlieConcfiiMl" '^- 

B*hh.([ — Ci 


hy Irloh Biihopi 



Had: 'Nut- 

Beren Ben 

- Chin 

It hpkl Electioiu — lakitand of Wedgwood Ware. IW. 
BEPLIBS: - Irlih Cw and Noddj, m - Blr Williuu 
Bivcr, Knt, IH —Badger, lU — Ombra, HT — The Book- 
wnrni. U8 — BhakanKBT* and ArdiSii,lW— "Pwwn ud 
'B»r.n- 171 — A'B«oket(*B Uiuderen: SomenMsbLre— lAdjOrlmd'Ui'iQranln'Aw^Ohuroh- 

borcb. Men 

fuil — Himl Putlog fn BtanloD Oborcb, Norfolk 
urt rait or John Kar — " TboDdi Iwt to SlalA to Huof^ 
doir" —The ProDOnobUan ^^6reek tod Latia — The 
Ihah Ptaailj: "BuMDeT Bqutre Jonei"— Be*. Bamuel 
HmlajF — Dngou ^ nsh«nu<»i in th« <Hdm Time -~ 
Ua'itr, the German Poet — Hampihtre OouQir; Churcli- 
yaid: Pepj-a'B ■■ Diiry " — Tlmothj DeHer — "Gallma- 
liaa" — fiMrbrdokOuikiai— Th*Apiical;He— (Uibu — 
WhoiBB L^C — Old Sandawn Oatla. Ue of Wight — 

"The P 



A crypto^ph, or, aa it is not un&eqMntly 
termed, K cyiMtr, is & me«Uj^ (writt«n oi tela- 
BT^hed as the case ma^ be) of wbick tka mean- 
ing ia rendered uniDtellinbltt to all unacquainted 
Tith tbe rol^ifbllowadui itscoDsbmctioa. Theee 
rules, privately agreed upon bj the parties eorre- 
gpooiing, luuatly apply to the saBstitntion of 
ijmbols for letteia: eometimes also, but l«aa 
beqnentlj, to a Bystematie miapbcemeDt oi ike 
letters from their pn^r pomliona in a vord. They 
admit of almoat endlera variaty. 

The process of finding out the rule by an ana- 
lytical investigation of the cipher ia called deci- 
pkermg, and the true meauuu' thoa obtained, the 
tvclnlum. The openttioD ia often a difSeult, if net 
hnpoaaible one, and has oocwioakUy engaged the 
atteDtioD of very profound thinkers. 

Mdhoda e( secvet cfmunnnicatton, aomewhat 
Keemblin^ modem dpher, appear to haTs been 

Ctised u very early timea. The aoytala of the 
■tans hae be^i often eonndered ae forming an 
. early link in ita develt^ment. During the last 
two or three centuriea nnmeroas improved aystems 
have been invented, and frequently employed both 
in matters of national importance and in the more 
ordinary af&irs of life. In onr day dpher lends ita 
aid to politics, war, commerce, love, and even, 

occasionally, to crime. A mystic linn in a column 
of newspaper advertisementa — to the uninitiated 
a sensefesa jumble of marks and letters — may 
oftenconvey themeset^of abTertohismietreBs; 
or it may sometimes be the friendly caution from 
a thief to his " pal." During the civil wars at the 
begianinf of th« sevuiteentli century, cipher dis- 
patchea vrrae so muck in vogue that each army 
seems to have employed exp^^ for the evolution 
of any it m%h.t eaptwe ttota tke other side. Of 
those men who mad« deoiph^nga study vid pro- 
fession pro ten., perhaps the most remarkable was 
Wallk, the leading matbemaiician of his time. 

It is, indeed, ohiefly in war, when communica- 
ttoos between generals of division and othen 
must paw through an enemy's couatiy, that cipher 
assiunea its greatest importance, for the mesaagefl 
in many cases can be trusted in no other form. 
Written in c^hev they eonoeal from the enemy, 
should he intercept them, information and oiden 
respecting future operations, on the carrying out 
of which ponibty the fate of a campfugn depends, 
(V course this is supponng him unable to evolve 

Having said thus much reapecting the usea to 
which cipher may be applied, I proceed to de- 
scribe very briely seTerat systems more or less 

In devieiiv rules lor the eoaatrucdon of a mes- 
sage, the following oouditioM ought to be attended 


1. The dpher produced must be sufBoienUy 
intricate as to render its evolution under all pro- 
bable circumslanoM ItariUy possible. Theoretically 
no ordinary cryptograph of more than a certun 
len^h ought, perhaps, to be considered quite proof 
against uoravelment when submitted to a clever 
expert — allowing him unlimited time; but prac- 
tically, when time is an object, many are so. 

3. The rules must be concise and eauly remem- 

3. TtMy ooght to be of sock a nAtnre Aat Aeir 
application both directly to the oonatniction and 
inversely to the reading of a cipher shall be 
simple and expeditious processes. It would be 
absurd ware a general on the field of battle to 
receive a di^iatch requiring an hour for its in- 
torpretatioB. Circumstances ought to guide ua in 
our ohiuce of a rule. Where secrec; is all-essen- 
tial, and time of little moment, tlus last condition 
may therefore be somewhat mnored. 

We will now take the foUowing as examples 
of very eosy cipher : — 

{!).... Uif bttsftt »K tfrif»fjlJShm Mfx Ttaffk. 
Themeaning of which 1^ 

" The addrens you require ia eight New Street." 
Here the rule has been to substitute as a symbol 
for any particular letter the next to it m the 
alphabet: b hta been written for a, /for 

Digiiizeo by 




[4" S. VU. Fkb. t! 

(S) Uope Mbe lilbmefltpi. JfrnU uotb/m ubnijt 
mtiyx fe ^UiAidt. tn exsmple (2) the lettera 
■n a^bolised exactly^ m in (1) ; but in addition 
to this, each wotd ie inverted Mid must be read 
backwards. Tbia the reader can decipher for 

Frequentlj, however, letters are repkced bj 
others which nave no appsrent alphabetical con- 
nection with them. The Soidier't Podcttbook, bj 
Colonel Wolaeley, describes an admirable method 
of this kind, in which the required subetitutinns 
may be at once found on reference to a diagram. 
The coDstiucUoD of the diagram is readily leamt 
and remembered by all interested in cipher corre- 
spondence, bat this is useless in any particular 
case without a knowledge of the key^ which is a 
word secretly agreed upon by the writer and per- 
son addressed. Of course, marks of any kind may 
be used as symbols, but letten or figures are 
usually employenL 

Where acipher isloDgenongh to inelnde a cer- 
tain proportion of the letters most commonly in 
use, or, more correctly speaking, of their symbolical 
equivalents fsupposmg each letter to have but 
one, and the lao^age to be known), its evoluliou 
is generallv poaoble by attendingto the following 
considerations as ^ven for the Xnglish language 
in the Encjfctopadta BriUamica .- — 

1. Letters or symbols of most frequent occur- 
rence may be set down as meaning vowels. Of 
theie, « is the roost nnroerous, m the least so. 3. 
Vowels most common togethi 

IT appears double, it is generally _^ /, t, or 
Towels > and a, 6. The letter preceding or fol- 
lowing two aimilar characters is either a vowel or 
^ m, n, or r. 6. In deciphering begin with words 
of one letter; they will be a, ^ o, or^. 7. Then 
take those of two letters lone of which will be a 
Towel. The most fm^uent in use are : to, be, by, 
of, on, or, no, a*, at, tf, m, it, he, me, tny, us, we, 
am. 8. In words of three letters, mostly two are 
consonants. The most frequent are : Ote, and, not, 
bvt,yel, for, l/io', how, vhy, ali, j/oil the, is, her, 
our, who, may, can, did, tcai, are, has, had, let, one, 
Ivo, six, ten, Ac, some of which, and words of 
two letters, are found in every sentence. 9. Most 
common words of four letters : this, that, then, thue, 
Tvilh, when,frofn, here, tome, most, none, they,lh»m, 
xehom, mne, yovr, self, must, wiU, have, beat, icere, 
four, five, nine. kc. 10. Of five letters : their, 
these, thote, ahich, where, uhile, since, there, shall, 
tmg^ cotiid, tcould, onyht, three, seven, eight, &c. 
11. Words of two or more syllables frequently 
be^ with double coDsonaots or with a preposi- 
tion: i. «., a vowel joined with one or more con- 
sonants. Most common double consonants: bl,br, 

^ijfi Af S^ iTt P^> P^ fi A *'' V' •'j *A) '^i «^i 
wr, ftc. Most common preposiiior- - 

de, die, ix, im, in, int, mis, per, pre, pro, re, stA, 
tup, m, &C. 12. Double consonants at the end of 
a long word are most frequently : ck. Id, ^, mn, 
ad, nf/, rl, rm, rp, rt, »m, ft, xi, &c. Moat common 
terminations : e, ed,at, er, ei, et, ing, ly, torn, eio», 
tian, able, ence, ment.fuU, lot, nets, sc. 

On principles analogous to these, ciphers written 
in other languages may (in the majority of cases) 
be evolved. 

Many dpheri are rendered mora posxling than 
they otherwise vrould be by having tbe words 
joined together as though the whole formed one 
word, and furthermore by the omission of abort 
words such as the, and, Ac, the absence of which 
does not destroy 'the true sense. The use of 
caintals may also be dispensed with. 

But to come to more abstruM ayslems. If, 
instead of always representiog the same letter by 
one symbol, we bare teceral, and emplOT one or 
other of them ad Iffnlum, the evolution (without 
the help of a key) becomes extremely difficult, if 
not practically impossible. The following appears 
to me a auSJciently easy method of carrying out 
this principle. Soma easily remembered sentence 
containing every letter of the alphabet, and in 
which the most common ones are several times 
repeated, is chosen for a key ; the words are let- 
tered in alphabetical rotation, and the letten in 
each word numbered from the bennning of that 
word. Suppose, for instance, we take for our key 
the following sentence, which fulfils these con- 
di lions — 

" (o) probity, (b) kindness (c) of (d) manner, 
(e) intelligence, (/) and (g) ">^ W ^ (.') t^"* 
O') service, (i) are (f) qualities (m) wliich(ii) 
justly (o) excite (p) wJmiration." 

To each word an uu^-letter ia affixed, as the 
reader will observe. The numbering of the letters 
is not shown — it can be readily obtained by 
counting. As an ud both in remembering and 
applying tbe key, the initial letters of its words, 
with their mdex-lettere below each, may be kept 
in a written form always at hand. Thus — 
a b c defffhijk I m n o p 
Now, in constructing a cipher, the symbol to be 
used for a letter is obtained wherever we find 
that latter in the key, and is formed of the num- 
ber of the letter in the word contaioing it attached 
to the index-letter of that word. As an illustra- 
ion, suppose we had to cipher " gun," we have 
ut one^, which is the 8th letter in the word 
intelligence," whose index-letter is e. For g we 
tbererore write e8. For u we have two symbuls, 
via., 12 and n2, either of which we may emplov; 
and for n eiaht, vii., 63, 66, di, di, e&, elO.f'J, 
plO. One form of cipher for " gun " is, therefore, 

h3, (£). Where capitals occur ^e may iu« 

I capital index-letters. 




ir key will at once give an idM 







IT— ml. 



ir vm\j this kej to the dispatch — 

" The eoemj oas deatiojed bridge orer R. at N. 

Farces to oppose him most be aeot via Northern 

In cipher it moB thus, at least this is out form 

«f conatTuction : — 

«4A3<i6M«8M eljM&jS J3. fleS J}5. 

CSA%3m4(4i8 eSoS eldlalh3j\b6 i2l2pS 

AffiSTtl <i4dS b8eidS» j4el/l 

D4a3a2«3m2«0<ffi<M hSgaefgi. 
Observe that where the same word occurs both 

In the iiej and in the dispatch we may eonveni- 

«ntij symbolize it by the index-letter alone. In 

the above /is put for "the " — a word which might, 

however, have been omitted. 
Here is another example of the system which 

the reader may easily decipher. 

An<K64ol d3«6nBl>8/le3fl4e5ePn2 e363n6e?tB 

«l<Od5t8. 0S<MA2. a2/2el ASgZJG. gigla5 

Ql.Nli2aieSe6t1iit7i8 iSb2 o3J2J5dSeU2 

A Si, 

The key consists in the Bbsurd sentence — 
"Doctor John Quack, bein^ extremely in want 
of patients, resolved to maue sooie by turning 
priie-fighter" ; which, if we take only the initiBl 
letters, may be abbreviated in a form useful for 
refnence, as in the last case. 

a b e A » f g h i j k I m n o p q 
Another plan of cipher, which, if too elaborate 
for ordinary purposes, might, I think, some- 
timei be employed with advantage for short 
messages of great importance, consists in repre- 
aeoting letters by numbers. The number aignify- 
ing a certain letter is not, however, a constant 
quantity, but one depending on others, some of 
which Tarj. It may depend, for instance : (1) 
on the position the letter holds in a word j (2) on 
that of the word in a sentence, as well as (3) on 
its own alph-jbelieal value, i.e. the number it 
occupies in the alphabet counted from the begin- 
ning ; the relatjonehip these several quantities have 
to one another being^efined by a simple equation. 

To make the system perfectly intelligible, sup- 
pose P to denote the alphabetical value of aletter 
whose symbol iB X; a the number of tiie letter in 
a word, and b that of the word in the sentence — 
each sentence being worked out independently of 
thoae which precede it. The values of P for the 
whole alphabet are here shown : — 
1 2 3 4 S e 7 8 9 10 11 13 13 14 1& 

p Q s s T ir r w X r z 

16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 

Almost any simple equation of some such form 
as the fdlowmg will do : — 
a)*=P+n-a . . ori'=a-+<i-ll 
r2)i=P+7 + fc-n . otP=xA-a-<J*h) 
(3)ar=P+2(6 + 10)-2oorP=ar-t-2a-2(6 + I0) 
ha., &C. 

The messsge to be dphered is first vnitten tfat, 
and in calcuUting the values oi x wa count those 
of a and fr for each letter aa we proceed, and place 
them in the equation. Solved ior P (as shown on 
the left), the equation gives ua the key to be em- 
ployed in the evolution. In designing an equa- 
tion some moderately easy form is best, as the 
multiplication of high numbers involves a needless 
waste of time. Forms producing fractional values 
of the symbol ought also to be avoided, and it 
were as well to choose one not likely to give 
ne^tive onea. This may be managed by remem- 
bering that P varies from 1 to 26 ; a is rarely 
more than 12, and b than 20 — a sentence being 
taken as the collection of words between two 
periods. In this kind of cryptogr^h the symbols 
must be eepsrated by commas to prevent posdble 
confusion, and a dn«h or cross inserted between 
every word. 

As an example, we will apply equation (1) to 
the dispatch — 

'' Attack at four to-monow morning." 

The dpher is — 


The message— 

" The enemy has thirty thousand men and one 
hundred guns." 
— constructed on equation (2), is as follows: — 

14,26,15 — 29,27,17—23,35,27,16,26,15,13 — 

Let the reader unravel the following by means 
of equation {3): — 


J. R. C, 

d by Google 


[l"'S.Vn.FE8.S5, Tl. 


The following aang, wbich Iwa a wide circnk- 
tion in Paris, chiefly in Belleville, the Wbile- 
diapel of the capital of France, is aiceedinfrly 
clever, and illustrates what was stated in the 
political papers relating to the present feeling of 
the French people towards England. Besides 
that, such poatr; ie always interesting, and must 
aerred aa a ]i&rt of general 1"' — *"" 
n author has j uetly remarked 

" TbMa witty ind popuUi tffdsions li|;htm ki the 
hooi the preesutB of (yrannical poirar, aod soothe the 
fiwliDga of the peoplB when under the InflnencB of pablic 
cidtement."— 7S« HUtory of Folitical Littratvt firm 
lK> Earliai Tima, vol. ii. ih. iii. Bj Bobert Blacker- 
LondoD, 1S55. 2 vols. 8vo. 

Deux cotillons sont a Potsdam, 

L'on dib : " Main Gott ! " I'ftutre « G— ! 

Appelez le roi de Bavi^ ; 

II est ea has qui boit la biire." 

— « A^ne, mon frtre, c'est ton tour, 

Grimpe au Bommet de cette tour, 

Et dis-Dous, aoaa peine de scblague. 

Tout ce que tu veiras, sans blague." 

Ije bavard-oie a r^poodu:' 

" On aait que je me suis fendu' 

Tellement pour le roi Guillaame, 

Que j'ai compromis moDioyaume. 

" Je vous le dis sana calemboui^, 

Punr la tum^ de Biaodebou^, 

II n'est ehoae que je De faaw 

A6d de m^tar ma gtAce." 

— " Eh, de la tour ! * Ohd, Idmhert I « 

Que Toia-tu P "— " Je voia Wiirtembe^ 

Et le Saxon ivies de rage. 

Qui ae repiusseot de carnage. 

" Dana la snng ila vont tr^huchant, 

Et, ce qui n'est paa moins touchou^ 

Je voia lea snciens k VersaiUe, 

Le verre en miua, qui font ripaille. 

"Coat le grand-due de Mecklenhoorg^ 

Avec ce comte d'Eulenhou^, 

Qui, s'^tant rerapli la beence,* 

Saigna, pour rii«, un coq d' Alsace.^ 

t The talkative gooac ; pronounced as Amarau, Bava- 
* i did m V ntmoat. 

* Ad imitation of the call of 
» A vul((«r by-word. 

• The belly, 

T Sums yeara ago, the son of Graf von Eulenbarg, 
beint^in liquor, killed a poor iaalTensive French cook. Tm 

recollections serve me well, his fother was the niiDi>l«r of 
war. Uaviiie been tried by a court-martial, the eallBnt 
warrior was leniently dealt with, the judges coneidering 
tbe case as a kind of drunken brawl between a butcher 

" Reine-imp^rattica Augusta, 
Ton vieux pochurd de mari t'a- 
T-il fait BAvoir par tfl^gr^he 
Combien il a siffl^ d'eou daffet* 
" n a'abreuve de raUinf,* 
Ec n'a jamais moins \6siaS ; 
Pout la mitomier dsvantage, 
IJ fait bruler ville et village. 
" Mein Herr le comte de Biamarck, 

Jure qu'il n'eat lien qui J'Sgale, 

EC soir et matin s'en regale. 

" Quand, sana peur d'etre bafoud, - 

Guilkume dit ; ' Dieu soit lou£ ! ' 

John Bull, teuyer, de peur hleiiM, 

Rdpond : < Noa boutiquea de mSme ! ' " 

Atheoieam Club, PaU Uall, Feb. SO. 1871. 

P. A. L. OF " N. & Q."~If your valued corre- 
spondent should see this, allow me to expiesa a 
hope that the capitulation cf Paris will ouUe as 
ogiiia to profit by his evei^ready Bt<«w of ittlbnaa- 
tion. His last communication to ro«r pages heart 
the date of September M, 1870; and Us Mi^t 
on seeing " N. & Q." again, after so long ui in- 
terval, caa only be aqualled by ovis mien w9 
again recogniae his pleaaant aneweEBto oni uulti- 
faiious inquiries. M. D. 

" Chituux xk E8P&eira.'''—^nM»tlM **!«*- 
tna apirituetles " of 3. Fnnfois de SbIm oeewa, I 
fancy, the tirat mention of thia fuaiUar ;^rM^ 
which, as an equivalent for obt own idiom of 
" castles in the air," haa Mnce then becowo pro- 
verbial. The subjoined passage I take &om the 
1843 Paris edition of the O^vrea ehomea dt S, 
Franqoii de Salet, torn, premier, p. 285. In thia 
particular epistle, the Bishop ol Geneva (who 
Souriahed in the later half of the sixteenth and 
the earlier part of the seventeenth century, 1567- 
1622), addressing himself " k une diune," in regard 
to the preriaratiou for meditation and the perfect- 
ing oneself in on"'' " — — *" "- 

foflows :— 

" Per9^vi?rei k bien vons valnci 
le gros da voa d^ra pour cela i i 
rien de vous, siaon cela, pour 
amosez doneques pos k * ' 

^re: ne d( 

de la conduile spiriluelle : chacan ayme selon son goi 
pea de geaa ayment sdoD leur devoir et h goust « Noa- 

tre-Selgnenr. De quoy sert-il de bMir dea ohaiit«i 

Eapigae, puisqa'li noiu hat habiUriD Franca? 

vocation, wntes as 

* £>;^fraaii<r<i^,toas«l off brandy., 

* Baiiiiu, hloo^ gore. ' ,. ( 





oBe d^nititm of the phraee I 
find " efalteftu <n Espagne " explained thai — u 
*'cu6em in the air, literally casdM in Spain, r 
ecmntr; in which ■ cwtlea ' are like angela vinta, 
' few and fcr botwaen ' "—an eijilanation Ttiich 
ia am^f Mfolcwa. Hen, in this incidental iUue- 
ti»ti*« reference of S. Fraofoia d« S&les, u it 
wems to m% we get at the original allu«on oat 

ScoiTioisUH in ASERICA. — I)ean Kamaaj, in 
Ilia ercellent and moet entertainiDg Semtniieeneet 
of Scottith Life and 0usraeler (the fifteenth edi- 
tion of which IB now before me), mentioua Mvaral 
voids and phrases which are peculiar to Scotland. 
Several of theae are in nse in the United States. 
Thus be sajs that "fraS eipreases infirmitj of 
bodj, bat im^eii no charge of any laxity in moral 
principle." We use the word in this first eenae 
aa well as in the last, as "His health is Tory 
frail," or " Hb has grown quite fraiL" 

In Scotland a person whose health has declined 
is said to have fiiltd. This we also use, as " He 
baa failed greafly ainco I last saw him." 

Bean Bamsuy recollects "a peculiar Scottish 

tbrwe vwy commonly iiaed, which now seems to 
are passed away," namely, "the expression to 
let M, indicating the notice or obserration of 
somediing or of some person. For example : ' I 

eaw ILi. at the meetiiig, but I nerer iet on 

tiiat I knew he wu present'" This ezpresraon, 
witb pi«ciaely this meaning, ia la constant use 
Among ns; and it would be impossible to express 
the idea mtended by any dorter phrase. 

Using behove for bd»m>e u another Scotti<asm 
recorded by him. Hr. Mark Antony Tiollope, in 
his volume on North America, mentions his meet- 
ing wiUi a nun in one of our Western States who 
thna pronounced the word. I never beard it so 
mispronounced ; uid the person of whom Mr. Trol- 
lope 8p»Lks must have been eithw a Scotchman 
or the son of one : and having referred to Mr. 
Trollope's book, it gives me pleasai« to add that, 
in ray iadgment, it is by far the fairest and most 
impartial work on this country ever written by an 
fbglishman. Ubbca. 


" I «w in London an Inge ox bred in Kent, aeventeen 
ftat b leoglh, ind modi higbei than I conld reach." 

/ aaw in the Cattle Show of 1869 an ox which 
stood, so said the catalogue, eighteen or twenty 
inches higher than any other beast in the show, 
80 that tall men stood on a chair to manipulate 

the patient (feature ; bat, in these days of ftwcuig, 
the length, though great, of the animri must have 
been much short of tbe Commonweidlb on*. Ho 
must, I think, have been a si^ of Uie timea. When 
monAtrous things were bieedmg. 3. A. G, 


Cbsibtopqobub Mobiles. — I have Irafore m« 
two volumes of Masses, written by this celebnted 
Spaniard ; and aa I beliere very littie b Iomwb. 
of his mnsio, and of these volumes in particBlar, 
it seema that " N. & Q." becomes a fitting homs 
for this note. The first volume is dedicated to 
" ninstiiss. atqne excelientls. Cosmo Media 
Floiea. Dnci"; and contains three masaea for 
four voices thus entitled (generally from the sab- 
jectof the fugue): — 1. "De beatfi Vit^ine"; 3. 
"Aapice Domine"; S. "Vulnerasti cox meuou" 
Three for five voices: 1. "Ave maris atella"; 
3. "Qaeramus ciuu pastoribus;" S. "L'homme 
arm^." And two for six voices: 1, "Mitle le- 
gretz"; 2. " Si bona suscepimus." 

The second volume ia dedicated to " Sanctdssimo 
Paulo tertio Pontifici maiimo," and has a fine 
frontispiece, with the Pope blessing Morales, who 
is holding open his book of music at the mass 
"Tu esvaa." The aidea of the plate are orna- 
mented with music and instruments; at the 
bottom are the arms of the Pope. This volume 
contains five masses for four voices: — 1. "Tu es 

armfi." Three for five voices: I. "Debeat&Vir- 
gine"; 2. "Quem dicunt homines"; 3. "Pro 

The two volamea were printed at Rome by 
Valerius Doricus and Ludovicua, brotbera, in the 
year 1544. They are printed in the old musical 
square notation, and unbaired; have five initial 
letters on each page ; and, at the top of each left- 
hand page, is the writer's name, and on the right 
the name of the mass. It ia said that only uia 
other copy of this great worii exists, which is fit 
the Vatican ; and any one who reprints the same 
is liable to excommunication. I hope my (minus 
ex-') communication will not be considered too 
long, as in all probability tbe books will ret into 
a library, and nothing more be known or thought 
of them. H.A.W. 

St, Altum's, HolbOTD. 

CsMiERABiAirs. — The following notices of per- 
sons who have lived for more than a century aro 
worth preserving in"N. & Q." Perhaps the 
requisite proofs m»y be furnished in your pages. 
I have cut them from the Lincoln, Mallaria, tind 
Stamford Mercury of January 20 : — 

••Mn.HuTP[tt dled)at Liaheard, Cornvall, the tXbtx 
iij, aged 10^ yeKca and 10 months. The leqnldte proof 
hu been obtained of her longsvitv. 

"At Whittlesfoid, near Cambridge, on Neiv Teal's 
Day, a woman named iSarab Dunn aai, aged 101 yetn. 


[*>»S.T1I. Fkb.!6,T1. 

She bad bomn tweire children, and ihe had at hei d«atb 
tmoty graiidchildrtn, eixtr Kreat-gnndchildiai, and 
thilttmsn-at-ftruit-grandchildren. But,iunKularlorfLite, 
oat of aff these there ara only two malea to perpetuate tJiB 
nime of Dnnn. 

" On Thoraday the ISth died at Sandwich Mrs. Marr 
Bnller, who «u bom at Worth, near Sandwich, March 
86, 1770, thni baring attained the patriarchal age of 
100 yean and nine montb*. Un. Butler, who «u 
ohriBUned and married at her native Tillage, bad been a 
widow upwardi of furty years. She waa aabarpipeaklng 
woman, Lad a quick ear and a good memoiy, bat had far 
muat years been quite blind." _ 

K.P.D. E. 

The following cutting from Zb Timt* of 
Jaouar; last deMTTM preMrration in "N. & Q.": 
Mits.3BiRi.ETMoitaRCoDD,AoEDlOO.— "OnthelTth 
Jan., at Sunex Lodge, Kingaton Hill, the retidenee of her 
aon, Edward S. Cudd, Esq., isiid 100 yean, nine Dkontht^ 
and >ix dava, Mrs. Shirley Morse Codd, relkt of the late 
Major Philip Codd, of Rumitead Conrt, KtUngbournc, 
Kant, and Keiuinglaii." 

THE broke:^ bkidge. 

Thia common street eihiUlion i» well Ininwn 
Ij UB under tbe name of tha " Chinese •hades " 
and the "Fantoccini" — an Italian name which 
meiuis (according to some Italian leiicogTHpheis) 
Chinese phantoma or shades.* The French say 
that the amusement is of Italian origin, to far at 
least, I preeumAj as thej are concerned. The 
Itaiiana »j that it came to them from China. I 
have never witnessed the Broken Bridge in 
1Van(», but I know that it is a'common show in 
Paris, lijons, and other cities, and that it is soma- 
timea acted a la Gmffitoi,^ and sometimes with the 
shades. I have met with a French version of the 
dialogue, which is word for word with ours ; and 
I have heard the tune eungbj a French gentleman, 
and find that it is tbe same as the English one. In 
Italf I have seen two exhibitions of the Broken 
Bridge. The first was a Marionette one, and it 
occnired at Arena on Logo Maggiore ; the other 
-was at Bologna in an erchwa/ in the street that 
leads from the Cathedral to the Great Square. 
A visitor to Bologna will find that the above 
archwaj is used almost every night throughout 
the year for Marionettes and Chinese Shades. 
The Bologna show was a "Fantoctnni" one. In 
both dties the dialogue and song were the same 
as we have them, and so were the scenes. There 
were tbe broken bridge, the swan that "swam 

* I do not pranODDce Ihla derivation correct. I say ai 
nnch to prerent any corr«apandeDt taking the pafnti to 
convict roe of ignorance of etymology. I neither "goeas " 
nor prononace tx calAtdrd. I am a very modest man, 
and may, like another correspondent, tiave got bold of a 
* dictioDary " of no anthority." 

t By the by, who was (iuignol } 

over," and the traveller who "couldn't"; tbe 
cobbler and the mischievous woman, and the co1»- 
bler's impertinent replj to the tfaveller's asking 
the hour. Indeed there was not the slightest de- 
nation, either in the music, song, dialogue, and 
Rccesaories, from the same as we have them in our 
exhibition. In ItaljtheMaiquis of Fonte Cassats 
is equivalent to the Hoiquis of Carabos in France; 
I should like to know more about the biatoiy of 
the Chinese shades and the pla/. What aUuaioiia 
found in any old works P I have no doubt 

There ore few of us who have not langbed at die 
Broken Bridge, and I shall be moat happy to 
know when and h; whom that immortal structuro 
was planned. Sibfhbk Jagesoit. 

Forster, in his Pocket Eneydopadia of Natind 
I^tnomena (p. 10), quotes some lines — " Tbe Stu- 
dent and tbe Cherry-clack" — &om what he calb 
" the Anthologia Bor. et Atu." ; and again (p. 48) 
introduces some quaint verses thus : — . 
" An sntient provertilal adage in verse sajs — 
> When the lonslie owie in the chimney howl^ 

Canon Oakeley, in his CaHtoKe Fhritt (p. 1>, 
gives a poem of nearly forty lines from tbe same 
source, and makes other frequent quotations fron 
it, sometimes (as p. 104) with chapter and verse 
appended — "Jmth^ffia Bor. et Aut., viii. 4." 

The work is also quoted by the author of Wild 
Flowen and Oieir Teachingi (Bath, 1846), p. 48, 
and by other writers. 

I have ascertained that the book does not occur 
in the catalogue of the Museum Uhraiy, London, 
nor in that of tbe Bodleian at Ozfon. CanoK 
Oakeley, I am told, can give no information about 
it, except that the quotations were sent him by a 
friend. Among those of my own friends who are 
best acquaintea with English literature, not ona 
has ever met with this mjst«ribus volume. 

Can tbe quotations, like the ''Old Flay" of Sir 
Walter Scott's novels, have been invented for the 
nonce hy some person, and copied without inquiry 
by subsequent writers? Dr. Forstar'a is the earliest 
mention of it I can find. He was not a littla 
eccentric in his literaiy productions. Can it be & 
caprice of his P W. L. N. 

Woodlaqds, Biidgewater. 

[Seventeen rean ago it was diacovered by oar valned 
correapondeot William PikkeBtOr, F.3.A, that tha 
Anthiiliigia Bortalit el AiatTtilu is a purely Imaginarjr 
title for certain piecea of prose and verse, lbs production 
of Dr. Fonter, and has no exinlence save in hia Cinli of 
tilt StoKoa and Paeitt EiurttlaptaSa. See " M. & (JJT % 
1" S. ix. 66fl.] iv/vWH^ 

4* S. VIL F«B. 26, 71.] 



Atsbt Pediobbk. — John Avery, of BodmiOj 
n. Gorawftll, married leoult Banr, of WvDacote, 
CO. Devon. A cine to the date ia fumiHhed bv tha 
fact that Isoulf 8 father, John Barrj, died in 1338. 
Had thej an; children? and were thej the an- 
CutdtB of Every of Wycreft Caatle, co. Devon ? 
I may add that Henry Bsiry, eldest brother of 
IsoulL WM bom in 1614. I cannot discover, 
tfaoogii I have spared no pains, to what family of 
Aveira this John Avery belonged. Your coire- 
0|iondent E. W. seems to be versed in the Avery 
pedi^Tee& Can he Icindly g^ve me any clue to the 
aeeinon of a questioD for which I have exhausted 
tO tfae Heralds' Visitatioiu in the British Museum, 
in vnn t Hkbhkktkudb. 

Abttficiil FLX'Fisaras. — Who invented this 
practice P Where can I find any early notices of 
it F It is earlier than Dame Juliana Bemers, who 
tells ns how to dub "xii fives wvth whiche ye 
■hall angle to ye trought and grayllyng." 


Caslo Ckitzlli.— Wanted, particulars of the 
Mfo and works of Carlo Ciivelli. His pictures 
bear date from 1468 to 1496, and he is said to 
bave been the scholar of Jacobello del Flore. He 
u a rare master in England, though our National 
Oallety poaaeises four of his works, and four are 
BOW exubited at Burlington House, three of 
whicb are lent by Earl Dudley. 

Joait PiosoT, JuN, 

fOinUi i* beliavcd to have been ■ natira of Tcnl^ 
ana to have aauriahed from about 1450 till 1476. Two 
^srea by this artiat are In tbe church of S. Sebaatiaoo 
at Venice, representing S. Fabbiano and tba Marriage uf 
B>CatlKtiDa; and one, tba*-Aiiniiiiciatian,"iraa boogbt 
at tba aale of £dTard SoUy'a eoUectioD by tha lata Lord 
Taunton. Tba latter bean tba inacription ■■ libartai 
XcdtriaaUea Opna CaroH CrtvilU Vaoetl, 1486." Con- 
salt Hicbael Bryao's Bid, of Paattn awl Eimaver$, 
«d. \ij Staoley, 1S49.] 

"Thb COKCILIIB."— I have recently met with 
s quarto pamphlet bearing the following title : — 

" Tbe CoDciliad ( or tfae Triumpfa of Patriotitm. A 
Poetn. Translated from the Latin of Tertioa Qoirtus 
Qnintiu. Tha Third Edition. London : Printed for T. 
Pridden, at the Feathers in Fleet Street, near Fleet 
Bridge. MDcoi-sii.- 

It contains twenty-eight pages of print, but 
Uiere are only sixteen lines in each page. The 
satire appears to have been published on the 
occasion of the elder Pitt receiving his pension of 
3000J1 per annum soon nfter the accession of 
QeoKe IIL I think I can detect Louis of France 
and Madame Pompadour under the guise of 

L and P , and Pitt is very plainly alluded 

to under the same contracted form : but I cannot 

add names to the foliovring: Fauks — C 1, 

a ,- N , B ,t A ,t and H .§ 

[■ GraaviQe. f Bedford. J Anson. § Haidwicke.] 

Tbe letter N may mean the Duke of Newcastle, 
and H may be Lord Hardwickej but tha vnae 
requires B to mean two syllnblea, and conse- 
quently cannot stand for the Marquis of Bute- 
Can any reader of "N. & Q." assign names to 
the above iniUals, and give the author of the 
poemF T.T. W. 

Stbarse Fzb paid by Irish Bibhops. — I have 
it on tbe authority of a distingnisbed prelate that, 
among the fees exacted from an Insn bishop on 
appoiutment to his see, was one of twenty or 
twenty-five niineas to the Lord- Lieu te can t's cook. 
The diseatabli^ment of the Irish church has conse- 
quently rendered less valuable pro taiito tha situa- 
tion of tbe Viceroy's cordon bitu. Can any one 
mention the origin of this strange perquisite r 

H. A. Kebbsot. 

Eldon House, Beiding. 

Frax rsBD ur BuKinira thr Dbad. — In a de- 
scription of the burning of the body of a prince 
on tne banks of the Amo, near Florence (which 
took place Mme time last year, with the usual 
rites of 'Hindoo observance), it is mentioned that 
the fire to light the funeral pile was carried in a 
vessel alongside the bodv. Can any of your 
readers tall me if such is tne usual practice P And 
if so, whMice thefireinthereBselisobtainedP 

Sahdxl Foote. — Tbe following is the title of 
a MS. formerlv in the noesesnon of Richard Heber, 
and sold at ois deatn. It wilt be found in the 
printed Catalogue (Pb zi. USS. No. 4^) i— 

" Piety in Pattens. Written bj S. Foota, Eiq., and 
firatperfbrmedlnbisPrimlllTeFBppetShoir." 113. 4to. 

Is it known what has become of this manu- 
script P Oko. C, BoASX. 

[This maniucTipt was purchased by Thomas Bodd,tlie 
celebrated bookadler, for ona ihilUng'!] 

" Habeas Corpus " Aor.— Is it posuble that 
the story told of the mode in which this famous 
act was passed is founded on fact P I recollect 
reading that tbe teller in the House of Lords for 
theAyes,whenhesaw a very corpulent peer pass, 
called out "There go two lords," and the teller for 
the Noes, not perceiving the joke, counted lioo. 
Ot course if the names of the peers voting were 
taken down, as at piesent, such a mistake would 
have been impossible; but in the daTS of tbe 
" Merry Uouaich " it may have been diiferently 
arranged. The bill was carried by a muority of 
one only, i . 3. U. 

lop'a woMb (1680), heaaye : "The former 
parliament had paesed a rery strict act for the dae eie- 
cntiDD of tha babeu corpus ; which was indeed all thc^ 
did. Itwaa carried bv an od-" —" - - ' 

- ■ ■ - ■ Lord N 



tdten. Loid Norriii, bdng « muh labjw;* to vvoofi, 
WWnatiitaU timeaUUntiTatowhatke wudcdng; bo a 
T«y fal lojtd coming in. Lord Grev roonted him for len, 
uaj^ atfiist, but seeing Lord Morris hid not obaervcd 
it, be went on with thia mii-roofconing of t*D : ao it n» 
reported lo the Uoiue, and declared that thev who were 
for the bill wen the mtOoii^, ttaongh It indeed went on 
the othat aide, and by this means tlie btU passed."] 

Bauiad : " Nunnre."— Rfty jw» a^ I te- 
munbei reading t. ballad called " Kuttug," in 
wltich ^.pewad the lollowing Oaaui : — 
» ■ ZoBBib 1 ' quoth the &imar, ; when is Dick f 
Tb* night is comiag on as quick, 

Tis time the sheep ware pat ia ; 
But I must fold Chem, I sappoee, 
While the young idle raaeal goes 
Witli MaigTj a-aMliiig.'" 

X ttunk I uw this hi a Ladiea' AhnuiBck or 
Diuy about the time above mentioiied. Can any 
of yonr conespondenta tell me where I can find 
tluB ballad P loaxra Hisusoir, Jrr. 

ttl^Sooth 18th StMet, HilkiMphiB. 
Thb FHcEinx T&BOKB. — SebutJaa, in I%» 
Tempest, exclaims : — 

That there are anicenu, that In Arabia 
There la one tree, the ptacenix' Uirooe, «■■ ph«niz 
At this bou i^giAig then." 
It ia two decadee nnoe I looked into &iodidii& 
Doea he coiuect the phceoix with any particular 
tree F I am awue that ^fif ia both the Urd 
and the palm-tree. But did Shakespeare tefet to 
an^ definite legend t And if so, where may it be 
fbundf Uaxbocseix. 

[Br J. Shirler, CnrfnlioK r^ 4jax tad Ulintt, 

Ghisesk Ruddbbs of Ships. — Theie have 
nomeioua rhoinbwdal holes cut in them, from a 
notion that the eddjing; of the water throuah 
them inuiuta an addidonal power in steering the 
TeaeeLThe GMnese are so tboroughlj practical 
a nation, that I am induc«d to ank if this coit- 
atructiaa cf rudder has erer been tdad in England, 
and with what result f M. D. 

Sastt Wulvbar.— Where shall I find aome 
acoonnt of St. Wulfran, bishop and confessor, 
whose tetival day is Ootobu' IS P I hare Ea^ed 
to £«C0Ter hint in the Acta Sanctorum under that 
day, and hare consulted many other booka witl: 
nn equ^ wont of aiiccew. Be must not he con- 
founded with h<B naineaahe St Wulftui, arch- 
hiah(^ of Sens, whose feaat ia March 20. Aa I 
^tr aouM of your readers may doubt the exist- 
ence lA the Sb Wulfsan concerning whom I am 
anxions for information, I beg to refer to the 

calendar published by Mr. J. J. Bond in kb 
valuable Mandy-Book o/* Rtik* aad TabUt for 
v»ifyi»g DatM, p. 166. A. ft V. P. 

Sbtes Serhohb oh tbh Sicbaxeitt, 1631.— 
I am very aniious to ascertain the name of the 
author and other bibliographical particulaiH of tha 
'""owing book, my copy being without a title- 
^ _ ). It is 12mo, pp. 384. Seven sermons on 
the Sacrament of tne Lord's Bupper occupy 

p. 1-278; a prayer, 279-282; a Uiauksgiviog, 

^286; then comes a separate titio — 

« A XusUficatioD at the Geetue of Kneeling in ths Act 
□( receiving the Sacrunent of the Idid's Snppai. Lon- 
don : Printed by £Hz. AHde for Robert Allot. tSSl." 
(pp. £89-861.) 

On p. 317 the author jefen to his previons tna- 
tise, entitled the Threefold BteoUiion. 

W. c. a 

[Tba asthoT of thsM woA* Is 3tAa De^son, vieai it 
St Hary'a, Baadiiw, and ofawjais lo Kiog James L 
Wood (^l*«B. Oxm. iL 439, edit. ISIG), wholaa given a 
list of his works, speaks of him sa'a learned man, and 
wall read in thsological aatbon." He died in tba latlar 
(Dd of January. 1628-9, and wss borisd ia St Hary^ 
chorch, Reading.'] 

Stoiti Axubs is EKeLTSH CnmcRn. — 2b 
Haydn's Dictionan/ ofDatee (p. 96) I find " it was 
decided in 1846, by the Court of Arcbe^ that itoM 
dJfars were not to be erected in English ehnrehee." 
Can you give the reason why F C^nw*. 

[This refers to the celebrated jndnnent of Sir Herbert 
Jeoner Fast, who, in the ease of fulknei «. USchMd 
and -Steam, ralwl that an immoraUe bIom itnetoie 
vhkA bad been plaoed in tba oharch of tba Hotr 
Sapnlchn at CaMbtk^ was not a ooananion Ubfa 
witUa the meaaiag of Iha rabrie. Sea the ndgmssit at 
length to Kabertaoa's EcdeiMaticid M^ortt, i. IM.) 

Tsmxis' "O&nB Hxrbau.": Niua » 
Puna. — I should be glad to know some Barti* 
culars of this worl^ which waa pubKdMd in 169(^ 
and seems to be one of the earliMt of Engli^ 
herbala. It is, of ooiirae, in black Utter, and is 
illustrated by very quaint woodcuts — some of 
which do duty several times for very difi'erent 
plants. Who was Treveiis; and is this the ori- 
ainal f<»n of the work, or a traaalation F I hara 
been unable to identify the following plants, and 
abaU be glad of help; — 

" Li<igmi onMrt'f. Geoa-brll or stjdic-wsrt. GoOS^U 
or bcodo;e is sa herbe convn jnoigb, Tbe rot* of it ia 

l^ke a goes bjrll | and the leves baa Ifke the Isvea of 

" Palacium leperi, \ hares nalajs ! Js an herbe lykq 
spnrge I but it hath longer and rvper hTes | and is leved 
lykefteeU and the rote1j-ke kneholmer.tunuj | and It 

" " ' ""gon [r 


icbe hym. Soido call it artetyke." 
The former ia poaaibly an emdium or geraniuss, 
from the description. The sow-thistle {SomAm 


yf tbeaare ooma under it | be 
torn' ■ " 

but a teed beir Ivke fr^on [fio- 
It is called haw* ft'— "*" 



«kraeeut) vu fmrnerlT knawrt lu "htre's polnce," 
Imt cAiiDot be inTcnded above. Jahbs Bbitish. 


Tav Vkto A.T Papal Er^Bcnoits.— Hilmu), in 
hi* Lat» Otrutimit!/ (yi. 407, ed. 1867), ieieiia 
tbe Iftw retatinfr to papal eterttoDB which Gre- 
Kcay X. procured to be enacted by the Uouncil of 
JUram^ ''to secare tbe pspacy from tbe scondale 
inich had prec«ded his own eLecdoa." But I do 
tMt find fhim that same ku^ed woric how it 
came to pns tbat France, Ocnuany, and Spain 
exercised tbe power of the veto agiuuBt tbe elec- 
fkm of any patticabr cardinal to tbe papacy. 
What is In^ra «f tbe origw of tbis poweiF 
DecB tt atill enetP Aad if ao, how baa it been 
t ftcto d by tb« rewmt changes in the relaticns 
betwera ae forMwaetita named and tbe papal 

IhmxakB o? Wbdswoo!) Wakb.— I have an 
Inkstand of Wedgwood's manufacture, consUting 
of a aemi-globe anpported by three dolphins on a 
flat triangular baae. In tbe centre of the aemi- 
^lobe a a conical resiel for ink, with a perfora- 
tion for Iba pen when not in use. On one side of 
tbe ink-Teaael ia a drculnr hole nearly an inch in 
diameter, and on tbe other aide ia a tbimble- 
ab^ped cavity. Between these are three perfora- 
tion! half an incb wide, and three a quarter of an 
inch wide. I shall feel obliged to any correspon- 
dent of "N. & Q." wbo will tell m« the jrarpoee 
«f tbeae petf<»»tioD8. H.l). 


(3^ S. Ti. 11^ 195; i* S. Ti. 645; rii. 23.) 

It i* an arttnifeMiiff drcanurtKace, while it proTea 
tiie real rdue of " N. ft Q.*, tbat s v«bicle whicb 
was in mrnmon nse Jn Dablin until a eompars- 
tinly Me period oamwt be property dee<^bed 
w i tliOTit a reference to its piq^. Eren onr old 
and teamed coQtiibntor Asoba is in error when 
if wH»6 of tbe noddy, erideDtly mirisd by tbe 
KMioi of Wedeha cf Ireitnid Sixt^ Yeten Ago. 
Om firnnds at lite other side of the Channel are 
▼Sly learned in the ancient history of Ireland, 
thoBgk thej^ seem to be quite ignorant of its 
■o d sf affiiin. Leet they, at a future period, 
may deaeriba tbe Oat or tbe noddy as state caN 
(ikgw dt King Heber, tbe "Irish sea qneen," or 
some otber equally fahuloua character, I feel dis- 
poeed to ask the Editor of " N. & Q.'' for a little 
■pace, ao that t may set tin question at rest for 

Busli, te f Amtto CWnoMi (17e&), speaking of 
Doblin, flXpresely states that — 

"Tbev bare an odA ktod of taacliniea bera, t>iit Is 
cdled tha noddy, whMi la nottiii^ oorc than an old 
castofl <MM-bonc ebaUa or nhsir." 

Twias, in bis Tour w Ireland (Load. 1776), 
aays: — 

nuij e[nR]e.borw two-wbc«t«d i^abe^ 
!_._._ j_ .i_ _. !_ 0jyi„, tbtywa 

The Trmieli of Twies were very nnpopalar, and 
aciMrding to the system of tbe critice of the day, 
were immediately ridiculed by An Htroie Epistle 
to B. Twias, Esq., from Donna Teresa of Murda, 
a lady mentioned in his Traceti in ^kuh, aad in 
this epistle we find the noddy first noticed ia versa 
aa follows :— 

■n wafti thee all *Iod« 

In Diiwic vebicla to hl , 

High-tow machine that beara plcbeito vlght 
To distant tf a-honn or tuaereiJ rite : 
Slill SB it moves, the proud pivilion noda, 
A obsise by mortali, koddt termed by gods." 
In An Heroic jbuwtt from Mr. Twias ke ikm 
descril>es the car :~ 

might ■! 


A downy mattnu oo tbe oar ia Md, 
The rev rend father moiiDta, and tender maid; 
Some back M back, Bone side by aide ara plac'd. 
The nvish'd miid by panting vouth embrac'd. 
By doiens Ihtie, t^ many a Siuday mom, 
WMi dawltog leg* ttraJoTlal crowd it bomat 
OIoMarf tb^ ss^ <c Bewth'i a^rtng brew. 
Or LcKlip, amiling aa tbe straam bcloK. 
When eage and cbea^iaeu would thy Twia engage^ 
Can ha preferr'd to noddiee or to stag*. 
Oft on a ear Bsvindna u« ne ride 
From Tred*gfa'st«r*n«l(i^hts Terdcat^A*."* 
In A Tmr Oirmi^ IrAnd (Lond. 1780), Hkt 
author tells ns — 

■■ Tram tha ftathA bahiaaa of the im«ts haAiiSy- 
•MtiMa anaerefraqDeat In prepoitkm tfaanln LoaAan. 
•Bd BSd^-ebaifS an STM j w b ete as oenracn ai ataW 
StJamea's. Tlieybaraanoddklndofiln^hDmckilM 
ben, called Boddfaa, so larafferBbtr eras?, and vraa dan- 
geroaa, as to afford matter of sarpiiie that they an per- 
mftted to Iw nwd '. tVeir Ibie Is half tbe price of a eoaeb. 
The? an Bothiag mors tbaa an cM ons-bcne Chaise or 
obair, with a stool Axe4 tipoB tin shiAs jut brfm the 
MM, OB whkh the dri Fer dts, Just above tbe ramp of Ins 

The Act for paving and ligbtiiig tbe streets <i 
Dnblia was only passed in 1774, ao we must sot 

□ another place he says ;— 

It of olsaaMnew Wbicb, IT ni)t ta> 

]nrimu to ihecredit, matt a«ds*bteily be se to tin hsaHh 
of this popokm d^i fer tt eaanot be dt^ed (baa,«zant 
tlw fnr new st^ae(^ wMch an paved and flagged tta 
those of LoaasB, tbe wbe)« of it <* abomiaatdy any aad 

So it seema to haye been better to have ssed 
those dangerous yebides than submit to tbe dis- 

■ These epistles will be foond in the first and ftratfh 
volames of the Rtpoiitury, a CallecHoK nf Faglliet PfKM, 
edited by J. Eeed, and pablisbed by Dilly In 1790. 




agreeableneSB of walking sudi ttreets, among 
mat the writer calla " wretched barridana, 
coveted with tattered weeds, tha moBt horrid raiM- 
creanta that evar degraded human iiatuie." Fur- 
ther he sajB : — 

"The hiwken af oem and clean«n of ihoca fill np 
the meunie of appflrwit povarty in Dublin, The filth of 
thdi bodiei igoflcntiv^ and their maDiwr shocking; tfa'' 
outngM upon dcceoc; dligait you at ererjr comer, u 
their Mveral ciiea, infinitalj' mora aoDorous tbao on _. 
tingle in yonr tan with bH tha anraging variatln of the 

Of the ear he tells ub that — 

Tonnd block*, iboDt twenty Inche* In diameter. Thej are 
fratjoently nwd as vehicles fur the common p«o[de on 
their pvdea of pleasure, when a t>ed or mat Is placed on 
the oar and hBlf-a-do«n people sit on it, with their l^i 
bangini; a ftw Inches from the ground. They are gene- 
rally dragged a foot-pux, and are U ridicaloni a chalae- 

It ma; be aa well (o obserre bere that anolbei 
edition of tbia work waa publiabed, at Dublin I 
Boapect, but I do not know either the date or 
place, as mjr copj has imfortonately lost its title- 
page ; but it only differs from A Tour through 
Ireland br being entitled the QtmpUle Irxih Tra- 
velltr, and adorned with woodcuts. Of course 
tbe' chaiBe-marine and noddj are mentioned in 
the aame words in both puhlicatjona. 

In a f e^ rare work entitled A General SMory 
of Irebmd at Ut Antitnt and Modem State, written 
br John Angel and published in Dublin in 1781, 
tne writer tells ns tbat — 

** There are 800 backney-coachea and aboat 400 Ndan- 
chain, the ralei of which are nearly tha aame as in 
London, and iingle^Jitirw ctutiaaa and can are naed on 
parties of pleasaie." 

Angel being n sacntarf to the Dublin Societj, 
which hod been then for some years endearooring 
to introduce arts and mannfactures into Ireland, 
hii work is in a rather dignified style, conse- 

ritly he does not condescend to use the semi- 
g terms of " noddy " or " chuae-marine " ; he 
merely calls them, what they were in fact— ungls- 
horse chaises and can. In 1806 Sir John Carr 

tablisbed the Stranger in Ireland. Of the noddy 
e says; — 

"Tbiscarriags is now somewhat rare. It is an old 
battered ainnle-harse chaise, with Ihe head np, having a 
seat for Pal upon the shaft*, who is lo placed that be 
retaliates opon hb passenger for the ramp of tha horse 
being placed close to bit very month. As this macbius 
move* it nods : and hence, as tbe Tilsh are always de- 
soiipCive in their eipressionB, I pregnme its name." 

A new vehicle called a jingle hod by this time 
Appeared in Dublio. Sir John tells us: — 

after tbe doom and the upper sides and roof ai« remove^ 
and is monnted ray high npon foor large slender whetk 

lis motion produces a rattling noise, which furnishes ila 
name: it is drawn by one miserable-looking horse, whose 
fal« it is frequently to pall aHec him, npon a smart trot, 
his driver and six passengers. Tbe principal stand of 
these carriages is at the end of Bagot Street ', they are 
numbered, and tbe drivers are subject to tbe control of 
the police for Improper behaviour. They generally raa 
to the Pidgeon-boDss and to the BInckrock, and bach 
again. Tbe fare Is sixpence only to each person. Tbeaa 
carriages, wretched as they look, are very convenient, 
and persons of the first respectability frequently rid* in 

Tbe jing-Ie, then, was no other tbao an old 
hackney-coach that had been divested of its upper 

parts ; while a noddy was merely a singte-horM 
chaise with an added seat on the shaft for the 
driver. Being a public carriage, it consequentlj 
was not driven by the person who sat ia it, aa 
Addison tells us. Tbe "one-borse chay " is now, 
I believe, only known in England by the comic 
song which relates tbe laughable! adventures of 
Mr. and Mrs. fiubb when they used one at Brigh- 
ton instead of a bathing-machine — a vehicle, bj 
the way, not so common in Ireland aa it oogbt t» 
be. We here see the fallacy of Ub. RBnxoxii^ 
who tells us tbat— 

" „ the old public cars called Jingles, which were modem 
or improved noodle* and were the preeunors of the 
present covered an£ outaide can peculiar to Dublin." 

Tbe author of Sketehei of Ireland, equally u 
absurdly, lells us tbat the car " waa succeeded bj 
the noddy," for 

"Our ons-horse vehicles have always been peculiar to 
ourselves, and were In use long before anything of a 
similar kind was Introduced Inio England." 

We have seen the car described in A Tow 
through Ireland as a chaise-marine, bat it waa 
more generally termed a Riagsend car, from tbe 
place to which it was most frequently driven. It 
had been improved from tbe davs when it waa 
covered with " a bed or mat '' ; it had now springs 
and cushions, and was termed a jauntin{f«arj and 
it is thus described by Sit John : — 

" Upon the road we saw several eartiages peculiar t« 
the country. That which struck me most was tbe Jaunt- 
ing car, an open carriage, mounted upon two small wheels, 
drawn by one horse, in which tbe company sit back to 
back, and benoe the Irish, in badinage, ciU it an Irish 
eif-o-nt ) wbilst, on the oUier hand, aaniideiing the poal- 
tion of the parties and of (he coachman, who is elevated 
in (Vont, I have heard it more appropriately, though lea* 
delicately, nominated the etU-i-ti}, This carriage Is veij 
convenient and easy, and will carry six persons beaidM 

In 1808 there was published in London a work 
entitled Jift/ Pocket-Book.* It was merely a tra- 

vestie upon Sir John Carr's ^ 

Tbereupou tbe ill-advised knisbt prosecuted tba 

publiabers, Messrs. Hood & Sharpe, for libe^ 

By Edward Dubois.] "'"■'cS 

4*3. Til. Fm. 26, ■71.] 


MtimatuR bis Aamapa at 200(M; The trtfa ( 
OD at GuiUhsll, befoie Lord Ellraiboroiigh, and 
created a great aenution in the titerarj world. 
The jurj, led bj his lordship's charge, without a 
inoiuBnt's hesitation returned a xer^t for the 
defendaols, thus establiahing the rights of criticieoi, 
mai so the knight got nothing. At page 26 of 
Jfy Poektl Borne there is a picture of a nodd j, and 
at page 1 another of a jaonting car, a large 
damsj rehide as it then was, heuig in a transi- 
tion state ham the lUngaend car to the neat 
modem j anutin^'car. 

I bare, probsblv, the la^st collection of prints 
relating to Ireland belonging to any private gen- 
tleman, and I am able to trace in them the Kings- 
end car, in ite different phases, up to the modem 
Citing-car. One of them, being a view of Drog- 
B, first published in the Europam Magadne, 
■ctoall; represents a part; of four on a Kingsend 
«ar, in the ve^ spot where Twiss b represented 
aajring in bia Heroic Aniwer : — 

" Oft oa a car BiiTlndiu saw ma ride 
Fmm Tredagb'a loiren along his nrdant air." 

I remember perfectly well the old common car 
of Ireland, as we used to term the Ringsend car, 
with its wheels formed of one solid piece of wood. 
All the week it may have carried any kind of 
goods, but on Sundays, covered with a bed or 
gnilt, it always took a party of pleasure out on a 
jaunt It is, I believe, quite extinct now ; but an 
old lady, lately deceased, who was on a visit at 
the house of a countrv magisbate in the county 
of Down (which has been termed the Yorkshire 
of Ireland) in the year 1800, has often told me 
that the ladies of the family alwavs rode on a 
common or Ringsend car to church; tne gentlemen 
were of course on horseback. Her atory is ciiri- 
ooaly illustrated by another print that I have, 
entitled " The TinDihioch Road, with a View 
of Bray-Town and Head," dated 1781, in which 
three ladies, dressed in the extreme of ^e fashion 
of that day, are represented riding on a Kingseud 
car. The bone of the car ia led by a little boy, 
who walks, dressed as a servant or jwgej while the 
gentleman of the party rides a slanted horse. 

Lever tells ua a tale of an old woman going to a 
ball on one of these can; but there was nothing 
strange in that, fori have frequently seen it done; 
nay more, I have actually seen in Ireland a swell 
of the period going to a ball in a wheelbarrow. 
The night was very wet, and the two miles of 
road he had to traverae were veiy dirty ; but by 
the Md of several cloaks be waa kept perfectly 
drr, and when tamed out at the entrance to the 
ball-room with shouts of good-hnmoured laughter, 
hii feet were aa clean as if he had come in a coach. 

I have a more than boyish remembrance of the 
moMjf, to far back as 1791, when I first becama 

acquainted with Dublio. It was « low-uzed 
pbaeton, with a hood lareer than its body, dirty 
and dilapidated, shabby and shaky; itsAutomedon 
seated on a bar in front, decked in a loose cotk- 
more and rusty caubeeu, and btlabourin^ a gar' 
ron, the flesh whereof would not have sufficed for a 
hungry Parisian's breakfast Neither have I for- 
gotten its contemporary, the four-wheeled j'inglt, 
with its six passengers, and similarly charioteered 
and horsed. I once had the honour of a spill 
bom one of these accommodatdng vehicles, W 
tweeu Dublin and Seapoiot E. L. S, 

In Glasgow the noddy was the common con- 
veyance aa late aa 1820-30 for pec^ not po»- 

tban a hired post-t^aise, although perhaps nbt so 
convenient; being not unlike the Dublin "rg. 
car," but more like a car than an omnibus. 

The noddy had two wheels, was box-shaped, 
and was entered at tbe back. Private noddies 
were often kept, but theb ownera generally pre- 
ferred the term " sociable " to noddy. 

W. O. D. 

P.S. The Ola!«ov 
Olasgow cab. 

noddy " 

I the embryo 

(4** S. L 468; iv. 167, 223, 342, 546 : v. 97, 214, 
326; TL482,6n3; vu. 82.) 
Dr. RoasB seeks to excuse himself for having 
in 1867 claimed to be the representative of the 
musician Roger, in that he " iMlieved my state- 
ment contained in Mr. H. Laing's volume published 
tbe year previously," and hopes his " mishap may 
be A warning to all senealogists," &o. Now I 
submit that in Mr. Laing's work is contuned 
neither genealogical statement, nor stetement of 
mine of any Ifind whatever, my name being merely 
mentioned as that of the person who communicated 
the casts ; nav, more, I am free to declare that I 
never, directly or indirectly, suggested to Dr. 
RoeiB bis descent from this musicum, nor did he 
communicate with me at alt in regard to tbe 
matter. The truth is Dk. Ro»br has faUen into 
his own trap, and does not exactly know how to 
extricate himself. Bmc ilia lachryma. It is 
imposnble to follow the remarks of one who evi- 
dently does not in the least understand that 
about which he writes. For example: "The nar- 
rative of the crests." he says (referring to a d»< 
scription of an old cnarter seal containing t, shield 
and supporters with exterior ornaments) — " Den- 
char's book of firitiBh creitt " — (when it bos been 
distinctly pointed ont that the stone sculpture found 
at Conpaigrange conaiats of a lAuU without any 
ciest) : " No Scottish family of Roger or Biogon , 
is named aa n^ng nwn a entt." What faimlT; ■ ^ 


t** 8. VII. Fib. 26. 71. 

eyer posaessed m crett without the right to bear 
unsr Most pec^e know that mwiy fsmilisB 
poBseMed the nght to bear ariiia without the right 
of ueing a crest,* bat never the coDverse, Bud 
when was there pny Scotch famil}' of the name 
of liogeTB P Ah a ^ueatioii of fact the arme coa- 
tWMed on the Coupnrgrange Kulpture are givea 
IB Deuchat'a heraldic work — the onlj heraldic 
work, in the proper sense of the term, with which 
he was evOT coanected, via. The BritiA Serald,\ 
in 3 Tola, quarto, hj Thomas Kohaon, Sundra- 
l«ad 1830. So the alltwed "report" of Mi. 
Ueuchftr, " after a seaicli/' "that the Coupar' 
ffi^ge family had no cre^ or coat of anna " must 
IB jiwvjSctHin. Ds.Bo8XB 
Bays Mr. Deuchar was " altogether iacapaUe ot 
peipetradng an heraldic for^peiy," while ia the 
veiy next eeotenoe he deeciibes the ooat fabii' 
oated by Douchar far his fa^er Uie Rer. Jamei 
Roger. Thia he tells na «xbiUta " a dexl«r hand 
bedding a crouer aunuoundn^ a ahi^d with 
^MLDgea entirely differ^t from uoae of the casts," 
» &et which would rather go to authentioate, 

* " The creat appean to hare been a mark of great 
dl^l^ and eatata — mom Bi>,»rbapa.thanwas implKd In 
thetiaerigM tote«ianDs"(Ho<ii«gii,p.47). "Cnsta 
wen originally eonfined to a Ibw, and giv^ bj rmil 
grant, and even to tliis di^ there are MvenI old familiea 
irlio baT« narer lued them." — Fariier'B Glottary, p. 98. 

f Deochar^ duore in this pnbUeatloa, which mined iti 
tmjeettlr Bobam, abd wUai was lAat Ilr. Daodiar 
himeelf oontidend hia gnat hmMts elliM— oanalated In 
fUniafaing all ^ Seotdh demaiit which it contains. In 
tidat* tMnd tha *mu af tn aa p awte frnrn irf 111 i 
aammaef Bosg^alsetbe HciMoaa aaat MmolheauWl 

SDewiharlbrUMtaUwritfDR.CBARLSsBMn. Fau 
Aeae (obvlonily anlhentle) are iudio*t«d aa bdongtng 
to Scotch ramlUn of Hia name, Oun^ Mlhool apeciac 
d wtgnation. Hr. DenCbar'a stannar dl procMdtiig wa 
AH. iTbett appIM t« «• fttnirii a coat dt Htnm, be 
giasMd, without leAteMt te aeL70n0fflc»-i.tbefmiB- 
ticni of whidi he ooaated It hi* peradiar privilege to 
nanrp— aoch a coat aa hi hiaj ndgDMnt be deamad amtable, 
and lAlA ha engraveS aceordfiigl]'. St than recorded 
aoA eott aa Jt JMo iofat vy tba tadtvidnl. Uf 
aotborftv ftr tfata MUanant ta ana at Mr. DviiebM^ prto- 
olpal aw l ilail, wha baa ft* mmj ran bean a aaai- 
engraver ia the (Mef oownMtW o^ of Soodaad. 1 
believe7%i SrilM J'eraUaboondsinaacbcoata : an much 
for Da. Sooer's "UnSpahle.* Db. Boosb's acconat 
Of Ui Iktbar's coat aftamlal la not Mtfte^ accimta. 
the mrenBdsendMMB, like Ua ana, ftadscMeBotimn 
of the dignM? of ratnoM HioMtO'* Had " alitmed «o he On 
rapnacMadve"— 1. af Biwer tba NwmaaCoBBt of aiolf I 
S. of Ifa^er Kahop of St. Andrewa, aon ot the Eari of 
I.elcieter. The hand boldii^ fbe eroalet ia oofned t^ou 
tba epbc^wl aeal of Btahop Bogv. The Bamtie-de-hl 
caaMneaon tba ahldd r mraawta hh aappaatd Nwioaa- 
naMkntnothw. "LaB^" (tbaking,<.a. «f fficityV 
1-Eetta, tba ^bnrdt, i.t.\La BMep of St Andrewf! 
Tbaaa va^aHta date tnm tbe v«ar of grace 1830. Tbe 
ooat contained on the scnlptnred alona at Coapaisrange, 
and Ibo finiad in IKiM, wn gntatet, 0&r<Mrf vOhiit a 
iontos by tte I4«a OBce at CkHtAwrgta air— ^ - 
iritfate the pimM eeatary te a WMd-<manbatit 
gv* of the BBMO of An^n 

than disprove the antheoticity of the latter, inw- 
much as that the coM fraaaed by Doudar for tie 
fsAer of D& KwtkB is a btown and admowledged 
forgery. Ta tUe air late fUhet alludee in a 
Irtter written to me on October 33, 1648 :— " Bat 
iaataacee are aat isk wlmi» t^ aaate family, 
throv)^ whim or otherwise, bai adonted diil'erent 
arms. Your ancle of Uaaino at oae time invented 
a new beaiii^ fat hiBiself, «UBd a grocw in 
Perth of the Kama of Roger had a woaws 
eighia^ BBgar (how represented Z do not know) 
\xt for his arma. Both foond theu way into 
Deoehar's book of blason^ which ahowa the 
worthleaaaesB of some of these bodu at least." 
The grocer's coat ia not reoorded in TAa SrifM 
Sermid: that fabrioated for tlie &lber of Ita. 
RoftBR is, however, given as a gniiune coat annorial 
wiUi every dmunatsDoe of aatheotiaty. Db. 
RoesB speaka of the " non-ezisting MaryweU." 
Can Dr. Koqxb pdnt to an instaoce of a man de- 
scribed in an autboBlie document as " of " a plKoe 
which had not an existence F I have only to add 
that the individual whom Db. Rosbk deacribea aa 
"a John Playfair" yim the father of the late 
Patrick Playfwr of DalmamoCh, Esq., West 
India merchant in Glasgow, and the husband of 
Dr. Rooeb's grandfather's sisteri, As to what 
Dr. Bosks is pleased to " nasert positively," I 
must leave this to the judgment and discretioa 
of the reader. }. C. Roqeb. 

(i"* & vi M4.) 
A short tjwe ainoe I «opied Oe foUewiHg para- 

Sh ftam I^OaimAa- of ^ate P^un, Dvaeatio 
w, Tolnme ft* the yem 1647-1580 :— 

liie readers of the dntrming Htory, 7%e Ltidiet 
of BsMf BoBow, will remeinber tkt " bntter- 
had^," who appeats in the opening hoene. 

O. S.A. 

This word m^ now he confined to the North 
of England, hut it is not a loc^ term. It was 
applied to a dealer in coin, meal, &c. being de- 
rived from the barbatons Latin w<»d hladgtr, « 
oormptioa of hladariiu, a corn-dealer, ana was 
applied to the brock in cooseqrience of the popular 
tradition that it atored its food (con^stiag of com, 
meal, &a.) fbr its winter sup{i1y. Some aeiive the 
word, as the name of the animal, &am the Oothio 
bnl giSr, the hailing goat ; if so, we have an easy 
tranution to the French ba^eiir, and I am incline 
to think that this ia very prubabie. How the word 
ia adU reteioed in its primitiTe Btat« and meaning 
in tlha Nfrt^it I iiM only *TnlMi by rrtnti^nrug 

*• 8. TU. »■».», Tl.] 



tha fact, Ibat words 
the oonDtrj have bud their . spheres gradiisUj 
dimintahad hy the nne of more modem forma of 
expression, and are thus fsesilised ; for inatimce, 
tiie old word anani is now alaiost excluMrelr con- 
fined to the We«t of England, as in Herefordahiie, 

be fooad to Iwve been 
tliaB oDe part t£ Eoglaad. Badger is tlao used to 
inean a pedlu or potter, b«uig dMived &om the 
Itiliat) Aiu(^7K>, tbjs being piobalilj from the 
Gnek Batti^, so tbftt both awsauiga viil apply 
IB anBwering youi correspradent. J. J. JiniB. 

Badger (from the Fiwch hagage^ ud thsoce is 
dohTea })agagi«r, a oanier of ^oods) signifies " one 
that hay* con and victuals w oM plwe aad car- 
rim them to another to sell and make profit." 

Bj sUtate 6 & 6 Edw. VI. c. 14: Badger ex- 
esntad from the pimishmeiit ef an ingrosser 
-within that statute^ 

Bt 6 Eliz. g. 12 : Badgers to be liceneod ao- 


K Bbolished the office of 

badgerii^, mA r^ealad ue Bt«tutespa« 
tioa to it (Jacob's Law Diet- Whar 
Xsr., &C. See also LjtUetoD's Zal. Die 

larton's Ltao 

Diet, 4ik«d., 

G. M. T. 

Ht. FeuMck's Ohmary of the Dialea of tit 
^MM^w^ o/ ZtmiiJafe gives " |ladger= a traTelliDg 
lUBjac-nf of produce, E.H.EnowLK, 


(4'* 3. Tii. S6.) 
I bare beard that ombre was a game similar to 
quadrille, which I remember to have seen played. 
Counters wew Mtd, which in tiu fint instance 
were pnt mlo a pool — a pool of quadrille being, 
Ske a rubber or whist, a mccession of games. 
Only forty cards were uaed. I think the threes, 
foun, and fires were tliose tkrovn out. There 
were four players. The three great cards, or 
"matadocM," were Spadille, tbe ace of spades; 
liUniUe, according to tba tiuinp, tha tvo of apadea 
«c aim, or the eeven ot hearts <» dJMWBda; 
BMt^ Um ace (rf ohibe. The tninp wm dendad 
bjr "ashing leave," the first hand having the 
frioriigbt. If BODtheisaid "preferaaca," mean- 
ing ksHts Gar the trmup, tbe first save vray. 
TIm partnar waa daeided l^ one of tbe playeM 
"Meeptfaig.'^ If th« ftvt woold not yi^ to 
"preference," he might " caH a king " — i. e. nam- 
ing a king, and ^ving some worthlasi card in 
■xchange, for which he paid a fine, and then 
plamng indepaMdent of a parton; bat if aaothar 
-idi <*! wiU play akoa," all yialdad to. h». 

If tbe aama of the tmmp made all tbe tee 
tridra it was a " voice," if only five it was a 
"basto," if cmly foar it wsfl "codiUe," or basted 
off the board. When hearts or diamonds were 
trumps the ace was called Funto, and ranked 
above the king; if not, below him luid the quean 
and knave. Hence, the king of hearts not baing 
a trump could take the ace, and save SeUnda 
frcm CodiUe. 

I bare beard that in ombre ^das wwe pre- 
ference, and hence Belinda names if ades as the 
trump, she baring the three matadorea (o« matt) 
in her hand, the kmg aad piobaldy a small ^ade. 
The reader vrill find tlwt wily thrae playws were 
engaged, aod that there must have haen ten eaida 
in each enit. The game derived its name from 
the fourth player baing^ths ehadov), though bow 
he became sucH I know not. In some old bouses 
you may occasionally see card taUes trith scoopad- 
oat pools — periiaps bow nsed as slabs in aa upper 
storey — these are ombie tables. 

I have haard that f nadiilU is 'a Spuisb gaa*> 
Tbe matadcms simeat tbe bull fight. la Spadille 
tbe sword, fioeto the dab, and Puato the dog F 
What ie Haaille, and what Oodille f 

Can any oaa inform, me what was ^ game of 
Boston f Z. Z. 

Tour OMtespOBdeDt will probably find tbe d»- 
tub of this game b tbe Com^eat Oamttter, edi- 
tion 1731. iVom this woric Hr. HalliweU, in hto 
Arehaie Wordt, quotes the fbUowing deacri^ 
tion: — 

"Tbare are nveral aorta of this nma CBlIsd L'Ombrs, 
bet thit which la tba chief ia called Bmagada, st which 
three onlf can whom an dealt Bfnecardaa-piiiee: 
ao tliat dJacartUng tba slghta, niuaa, and Icoa, then will 
noialn thirteen cards in the atoek ; there is no tmmf 
iHit what tbe player pleiseii; the fliat hand baa alwa^ 
the iibeity to play or pan; tStx him. the aecond," Ae. 

Tbia is as fitf as Hr. Halliwell qaotes. The 
game is of Spanish origiu, and is only an improve' 
ment of " pnmero." The Compleat Gameder says 
the latter game wen rapidly out af &ahi»n after 
tba introduc^n of ombM. 

bi Taylor's .Butory o/ Ptoywv Car4» (Hottea) 
it ift stated :— 

•■ The Itatiaei hwre baen tba ioveaton of alBoct all 
theeaMaeof pare dance; llu8paBtMda,oatbaaoBtHi7, 
TlbM Bona but tboae of a digiiiSed ehancter. Tbai« 
latiooal gatne — ombr^ * tbe game of man,' a modlficatif^n 

ooDclDde, thovfora, that U ta tba saiHaM of exiaMog 
gawo, and npon tMB aaaomptaoa, that the Spaaiarda 
waaa hw earliwt oaadptairaB." 

Jobs Pieaoz, Joxb. 

There is, I belisvs, aa good deaeription ia iniat 
of this azceUsnt game, now, slae I dieuaed in Eng' 
laad, though in foil vc^a is Spain (mtder ue 


[4*3. VII. r«».86,7L 

Dtune <^ Tredllo) end Spanub Ameticft (m BiMBni' 
bor), and, aa I Have been told, in QermaDy iileo. 

When I was ia Spun in 18G5 I collected two 
or three little tractates on Tieaillo, and from them 
I compiled auoh an account of the f^ome at I aujp- 
po«e Mb. Udai, demras j that u to aaj, not an his- 
torical one, but a descnption of the ^me, with a 
code or rules. 

I fear it would be too long a " note " for 
" N. & Q." (it miffht take about ten pages, I think), 
otherwise it would be Ter; much at yout service. 
The gome is so good a one, and so superior to 
Whist both in variety and the opportunity it 
affords for the exercise of skill, that it would be a 
real gain to the Enelish world of card-players to 
' have such a knowledge of its merits as would be 
triven them by the appearance of its rules in 
" N. & Q." 

MeanwhilCj Mb. Udil is veiy welcome to the 
loon of my little book: and he wiU sm therein 
that the ace is but Ilis (oorth card in the red suits 
^except when trumps), and is consequently liable 
to bo captured by tne king, which is the first. 

I will take this opportunity of correcting an 
error on this subject into which your correspondent 
Mb. Pbaoock has fidlen in his very ».T«iiiring book 
Qtyll Grange. 

He criticises Pope's deacriptimi (which is in- 
deed, as Mb. Uoax says, magnificent) as not 
accounting for the full number of forty cards ; but 
he seems not to have been aware that thirteen 
cards remdn out in each deal to serve aa a bank, 
from whence the players supply themselves after 
discard ; bd that the cards in play are but twenty- 
seven, and Pope, in this as in all other particulars 
«f his description, is perfectly right 

St Dnoittn's, R«g«nt'i Faik 

(4"- a. Ti. 527; viL 66.) 

I have Been many bookworms in the course of 
my long intimacy with books ; and the first spe- 
cimen of the insect I chanced to meet with was 
in an old volume in Trinity College Library, 
Dublin, in the year 18S6 ; and here, in Oxford, I 
have seen not a few. Some yeaie ago I received 
a letter from Mr. John Leignton, F.S.A., asking 
me to tiy and procure a specimen of the worm, 
which be wished to exhibit before a curious audi- 
i at a lecture which he was about to deliver 


Library, and transoiitted iteafely toMr. Leighton, 
°""'ieed in a quill, by post just in time to be 

iced on the table by the lecturer. 

" made a note" of the book in Trin. CoU. 

ts the bookworm anything more than the little 
chocolate-coloured beetle we know so well as the 
producer of " worm-eaten " furniture and boards ? 
His littie twisted borings are thesameinsiEe, and 
I have caught him in my books. Once only have 
I had the privile^p of catching him in the grab 
or caterpillar state, and then he was n whitisb- 
lookiuD grub in the middle of a volume I Buddenly 
openec^ and was eating his naseu^ out. I as- 
sumed at least that this must De a bookworm, but 
I am no entomologist Our old library used to 
be infested till my mother cured the books bv 
having them taken down every year and dusted, 
where needful with pepper and pounded alum, 


A copy of Cimfe»sum» of Faith. SfC. ^e. ofpublick 
Aulhori^ M Ike Church of Scotland, Gla^tow, 
1764, in my possession, is eonsidetably worm- 
eaten. The diameter of the hole, measured at 
several placea where the perforation is perpen- 
dicular to the ddes of the book (and the hole 
conaequently nearly circular), I make one-twen- 
tieUiofantnch. W. F. (2.) 

I have Prinsep's Sutorical SetuUt dedueSiU 
from recent Ditcoveriei m Affghaaidan, very badly 
wormed on the back mar^tin, quite through the 
book and the plates, and also through the cloth 
binding. Published in London in 1844 by W. 
H. Allen &. Co. Sam. Shaw. 

H. B. C. will perhaps Uke to know that Mr. 
Sylvester believes he has seen this insect. 

■■ Nature," b« writes, " his gifted me with eyts of ex- 
ceptioDat micriMcopia power, and I can apeak with Mme 
aasumnce of baviag repuUdlj seen the cTMtnre wrigKling 
(ID tlio l«amed Mge. On approKcbliiK it wilh breith or 
Gnguuail, it bUScdi oat into the semblance or ■ itreah cf 
an, and ao etadca detection." — Lam »/ Verm,^. US, 



a quill, by post just in 
the table by the lecturer. 

. _ a note" of the book in 

Librai; where I found the rovager ; but I cannot 

" How dear are their book", their cabinets of the 
Tariona produetloni of nature, and tlietr eollectioDa of 
piinu and other works of art and adence, to the lesined, 
tbe sclendSc, and tbe virtooBJ I Evea theia precioni trea- 
tnna bave tbeir ia»ct enemier. Tbe larva of Orambiu 

CgninalU will eitablieh itKlf upn tbe binding of a 
ik, and spinning a lobe, whicb it covera with its own 
excrement, will do it no little injnrj-. A mite (^oarM 
traditia, Scbrank) eats tbe paala that faateos tbs paper 
over the edges ot tbej binding, and ao looatns it. I have 
also ofleD observed tbe caterpillar of anntber little motli, 
of which I have not oscertained the apeciea, that takoi 
Ita station in damp old books, between the Icavea, and 
tbere commits great ravaged ; and many a black-letter 
rarity, which in tbeM days of bibliomania would ban 

4* 8. TIL Fkb. to, 71.] 



beea viIdhI at Its wdfcbt in icoUt bu been inatcbed bj 
thf>e deetnwen th>m the bands of biwk-collretora. The 
litLla wood-boring bntlea (^■oAfuui pertlnax and Mtria- 
Aw) also attack booki, and will even bore through 
•evenl TOlamn. H. PeiRtiot mention) an instance 
wbere, in a public library but little fieqnenled, ticaity- 
arWK folio Tulomes were perTorated in a slralt^fat line by 
the aame iasKt (probably one of these flpecioa) in aucb 
a manner tliat on paning a cord tbrough the perfectly 
roond hole made by it, tbeee twenty-Beran voiumea eoald 
be ralasd at once. The animala laat mentiimed aleo 
deBlro7 printa and drawioga, wbetber framed or pt«- 
•■rved in a porit-fanUer — Ktihy and Spenca'a J^iilo- 
malnaw, 1833, vol. 1. p. 336. 

' Then la a mtt nf bom' wonn 
Tbat will the fkirest booka deform, 

By gnawing hcdea thronghont them ; 
Alike thrODgb ev'iy leaf they go, 
Tet of Ite merits nooght they knov, 
Nor care they angbt abont them. 
"Tbelr tasteleu tootb will tear and taint 
The poet, patriot, sage, or saint, 
Nor aparins wit nor laamtog : 
Kow if yoD'd know the teason whr. 
The beet of reasons 111 anr^y— ' 
Tla bread to the poor vermin. 
" or pepper, snntT, or 'bacco-amoke. 
And Rnaaia-caif, they make a juke. 

Tet wby shoalil sons of science 

Three pnnv. rankling rpptllee dread ? 

lis bnt to let their books be read. 

And bid tbe worms defiaDce." 

(FSu-Giparint, by Joba F. U, Doraston, Shrewsbnir, 

1816, p. 354.) 

C. W. 8. 

Allow me to introduce myself aa tiiat " ran ivia," 
i,*. " one wbo has," I hAve & copj of Durandut 
lUUionalt, Arg. 1484, in the oriRina] beech board 
Unding. The Utter ia quamed through and 
through bj tbe bookworm. From the dust it 
made on mj ihelvea I felt tbat tbe worm was in 
it coDtiDuing its ravages. And oae daj I became 
CODTiamd bj taking down a newty-bound boob 
wbkh stoodbf its side, nod finding a slight p«T- 
IbratioD of the leather, the proximity of this 
■nemy was manifeat. I took severe meanirea, and 
immediatelj nubjected Dartmda* to a terrible 
beating with, a hammer. Out popped one, then 
two living worms, not quite a quarter of an inch 
Ions- Ultimately I obtained twenty spedmena 
of uie worm, which is of course a larval state ; 
Ud besides this I obtained three examples of 
&e perfect insect, a small brown beetle, but 
these were dead. I gave specimens to friends, 
and kept some myselt, whicn by oome accident 

Hy belief is that this insect orijij^allj belonged 
to toe wood, and is identical with tbat which per- 
Ibnte* old funutare made'of beech, walnut, or tbe 
wood of the p««-. It is not so often seen in oak, 

for it evidently prefers tbe sweet woods. It does 
not like the miU-board of modem books, or it 
would have gone into mine, and it prefen wood 
to paper. It seems to me to be a very near rela- 
tion to the nutworm ; it is like it in every particular 
bnt siie. J. O. Waltxk. 

68, Boloover Street, W. 

(4"'S.vii. 11&) 
The grant of Dethick Garter and Camden 
Clareneeuz to John 9haheapere in 1699, to impale 
the "anncyent armes of Arden of Wellin?cote," 
and for his issue to quarter the same— if such 
^rant ever actually passed the seals of ofSce — for 
it is known only from a draft copy preserved in 
the College of Arms — has been verjr cnrefully 
ptinted in Th» Herald and Otneahgist, vol. l 
p. 613, preceded by tbe prerious grant in 1606 
of the well-known arms of Shakespeare. But it 
was shown in the accompanying remarks tbat 
there was no proof that A^en of Wilmcote 
(which is the triie orthography) ever bore arms; 
and tbat Dethick, or whoever was the herald who 

flourishing at Farkhall, co. Warwick; hut took 
instead the arms of Arden of Alvanley in Cheshin 
^fferencjng them bv a martlet. Tnis is ahown 
by a fac-simile (ibid. p. 608J of the bendd's 
sketch, in which the former coat is scratched 
through and the Utter substituted ; one being 
Ermine, a feu cheqw/ or and osure, tbe other 
Gult», ihrteeroviettjitckleanda chief or. In fact, 
the two families of Arden in Warwickshire and 
Cheehire were distinct, and their relationship, if 
any, is questionsble and remote ; nor ia there ap- 
parent support for Mb. Hblsbt's phrawology — 
" the old Warwick stock of the Ardent and tbe 
Alvanley branch of that family." Sbakespeam's 
mother m the armorial draft of 1699 was described 
as " one of the heyrs of Robert Arden of Wel- 
linffcotf " ; and in 1606 the same Robert had been 
styled, by Dethick, at first "Gent" and then 
"Esquire." But two deeds which have been 
discovered and published in more recent times 
have shown that in 1660 the same person was 

_ (J. P. Collier's Life of Skaketpearr, 

1S44, p. Izxiii.) Robert Arden's will, published 
by Malone aud by Halliwell, I^e of Shahetptare, 
1848, p. 6, and all other collateral evidence that 
baa biUierto been brought to bear on tbe discua- 
rion, entirely confirm the sftme view of faia .posi- 
tion in sode^. 

If the ^rant to John Shakespeare and his issue 
for impahng and quartering Ajrden ever actually 
passed, there ia no proof tnat it was ever acted 



[4«S.T1I. ru-U,*?!. 

xifoa. In BO old muatciipt lura the two costs 
beeR fottnd qiuutered ; ud m for tiie "smI" of 
WiUum ShakeepMre — of which Mr. Hkesbt 
isuginM the exietence — no iiniM»i&I seal 'rtst- 
ever of the poet has been diacovered. 

On ku momunent at Stratford hiB amorial 
shield is without quartering, and I cannot agree 
irith Mb. Helsbt that " monumental evidence ia 
no evidence at all," for I regard it as among the 
vety best On the seal of Ibe poet's daughter, 
Mrs. Hall, engraved in The Serald and Gatecdo- 
gut, i 514, the arma of Hall are impaled with 
Shakespeare akne ; so th^ areon the gravestones 
of herself and her husband ; and on that of her 
daughter Mis. Nash, the coats of Hall and Shake- 
speare appear qasrtei'lj, but no quartering for 
Aiden. These aO are engraved in French'a Shaie- 
tptartana Gmealofiieti, pp. 413, 414, 41&. 

I think abo it wiQ be admitted Qtat Kk. 
Hkubi's reSection is lathw imowidawte, " that 
Shakespeare nevw ttonbled bhiuelf in tke verj 
costl; mattei of pedigree in thoaa da;&" Is the 
first plac^ "the matter of pe(Ufree"va»amuch 
more ordina^ afiur in thow ai.j» ikm in our 
own; and ceitainlf it was not, profortiouatel; 
speaking, more " eoatlf " then tkaa now. In tlw 
eecoad place, ire have vuj good proo^ and it ia 
undoubtedly an intercsUng feature aiaoug tka very 
limited nuteriale we pooeeH for tbe poet's bio- 
grsihhyi that he did really "traubla bimwU^" m 
16w aod again in 1600, in asserting his poeititn 
as a Gentleman, — for there ean 1m little d<mbt 
that the application to the heralds made in his 
father's same actually came itota hisiself i J(^ 
Shake^are having been bailiff of Stratford diirty 
years before, in 16^ when be migkt have t^tv"'h? 
annorial bearings on that ground, had ha beea 
inclined to do so. However, as tha result of the 
two grants, we know that the arms c^ Shakespeare 

Cted in 1696 were adopted and used, but we 
, no proof that the quartering for Ai«Leak w«» 
evei adopted or lised. 

Sbakemare's immediate aneeston, both pi 
naUy aof maite«aUy,mnsl be admitted to have 
been of the " peasant " or agricoltai^ cUm. And 
wh{ not f If the truth wei» otherwise, it wtmld 
be inteiestiDg to trace his deecent and kia col- 
lateral telatiimshipa. But if in truth hs was not 
of noble aoMStry, it is sniely more satisfaotoij to 
Test upon that truth than to weave theoBsa of 
Tiaonuy anceatry for lus illustrioua name. 

It was tbe tnde oS the hiMalds of his d«y lo 
think and act difiereoUy ; and the character and 
conduct of Cooke, Dethick, and otkeM who wan 
h%h in ofEce in the Elizabethan aga an unfor- 
tunately too open to these su^Mioas. 

The " combatant at Bosworth," to whom Mb. 
Hblsbi alludes, is in all probabili^ altogether a 
myth; and conjured up— not like tha spirits in 
MatiMf by the poet hinuel^ but in tha eaatdioa 

at tbe Heralds' College, on DetbiiA flnding tiafe 
Sir John Arden (or Ardeme) of Parkball in Wu- 
wickshire had been an esquire for the body to 
King Henry VH. This borrowed plnau waa at 
first taken (ot the Wilmoote Ardeasy and then 
ambiguously tmnsferred to John Shakemesre's 
own ancestry — in the first |n«nt of 169o to 8 
grandfather, in the second oT 1S89 to a great- 
grandfather. Modem interpreters have added the 
acoeesory coDJeeture that the imaginaiy warrior 
fowht on Boaworth fletd. 

Before I conclude I may refer Hn. Hxlsbt to 
French's iSiaJcMpeareima Omtealogica, published in 
1809 as a suppleoMatal volume to the Cambridge 
edition of Shakespeare by Clark aod Wright; 
in which, in pp. 416-603, be will find large cot- 
lections on the various families of Arden, in- 
cludiog ail th&t Mr. French could aUage in reply 
to the writer who criticised Bellew's SkaJmtr* » 
Horn* (.8vo, ISeS) in Th* Herald atd GtMotogUt. 

Ti ;ii- -_j : , — :_ «r >i Qohert Arden of 

Wyllmcote in the parvahe of Aston Cantlow" 
(1666), and of his wiaow "Annea Aideune of 
Wylmcote " (1680) show their wealth to a penny. 
His ffoods were amiTUBed at 71L lis. lOdL, hers 
atisT He was in &ct a yeoman^ and even the 
extent of his land has been ascertained : it was a 
freehold called Asbiee in the pariah of Aston 
Cantlowe, consistiag of fifty-nx aOMS and a well- 
fumished homestead poaaesHng a hall, chambeM, 
and kitchen. Such was the meaning ofagncola, 
or " husbuidman " ; not an agricultural labourer, 
as we now commonly accept the designation, bat 
still not a gmitleman ; an hraieet man, who, Hke 
the lather <^ Bishop Latimw, cultivated hie owa 
land, and provided well for bis children, ibi 
Pieneh, however, is evidently wMng '^en (hi 
p. 418) be amplifies the flftr-ux acres to mb 
hundred Mid u^-six by adding to tbe 1 
some property at Saittarfield, which pasaed tt 
the banda ta tha uma or aaothei itobavt Ardn, 
and which Hr. Freaoh meotiMw as h^ng of tha 
pfwws extent, vii. 60 acres of arable, 10 ol naa- 
dow, and SO of Aine and heath," Sco. Ac, thon^ 
it is perfectly well known that the arbitrary aaft- 
matea wluch ooonr in tkoee round auBbe* ar» 
mokIt the legal anbstitatea Ibi unaseertataad pa»> 
tioalnra. And again (In p. 486) by a Himlai pp»> 
cesa tha 166 acoes are ineraaaed to "343 acres «t 
beehold land at tbe leaat"; bnt in all tins thei» 
is evide^ miaap piebensioB. At any evMt Robert 
Arden, the father-in-taw of John Sbakeapaara, dU 
not die posa ceae d of so maeh property. Nor caa X 
uiee with Mr. Fr»ch in nis idwtifleatioB of 
Tkomas Ardeme of Wylmcote, living in IBOl ^ad 
the &ther of Robert), with Thomas mentioned Itt 
the irill (1636) of Sir John Arden, the esqmre 
for the body to JFIenry VU., as one of bis Ore* 
brothers. Had this hem tbe bet, the right of 
Robert Arden to thaaeat of Aidan of Pad[ka% 


140TES AND QUfifilES. 

with dii« difiennce, woaU hftva b«ei) uaquea- 
tionble. Ur. FMadi liacki fail conclnnoiu hj 
Mr. Hunter^ ugimnDta im hia Prolusions on 
Shakfipere ; but Hunter was misled bj trusting 
too implicid; to the aasertiona of Detbick's gtfoit, 
— usertdons 'which an not supported bv the Vlsi- 
tgtioiis or otlier documents of the betaltU, nor by 
anv more mlntantiikl legH evidence. 

lb, FKOuA'e additional pioofs or codcIuuoub 
idTBDce KO foiHier than this : UtAt Robert Arden 
tt WihDcote was tiie son of lliomaa of the tame 
ylaGe: but to proof of the consectioB of Kobert 
a&dbiB fiitber niomu with the noble fiunily, he 
hasno evidence at all. The suppoation ia merely 
founded on the fact that Sir John had also a 
bother Thomas. 

Flatwed with hie disoriminatdoB, Mr. FreM^, in 
bit Table X. (p. 499} pontively eihibite Robert 
Aides of Wilmcote aa a a^bew to Sk John 
Aidcn of Parkhall ; but the armorial evidence ia 
still jnst ihe other w«f, md riiowB that tlie 
Heiwds did not dare to aiMgn his tbe coat of the 
WKwidcahifa Aidens. Robert Arden of Wilm- 
cote and bis &ther Thomas were not men who 
had declined from their posiliwi as cadeU of a 
mM» faiuljr; they were rather hmest yet^en 
lAo hod men in wealtfa and substanoe h; in* 
doatiy and fcagality, aad were able to leave some 
little propertr, but no ancestral digni^, to their 
de«e«Unta ue Shakeapaarea. 

JeSK OMTfiH Niosou, 

C** 8, ri. see.) 

I asHd tnotlMV Tetticn of this song, bat Mnnat 
__ -, T. .__.... -^ j^^ jji ,,ay form. This was 

_.. — H— 1. -'-luttbeyoK 


aibable in writing. Hia lg«M 

tM, «id A«as, were ia porfect keepiag, " 

■yif it « ^ , _ 
MM ttom a genAuie WrrrthMB, about tbe Ji 
iSSBL whose Vraaonotation cave a sest w' ' 
L ia tpdMoilM 

a navvy-baiU man, tall, bUatoCMig; witbalMt 
btriffiag in, a belchei neck-clottt^ a &teze coa^ 
cord breeches, rough gray stockmgs, and high 

- A lIMbom puwn, ttlHMB MDM tt ma Oeotgd, 
AJdlj' old tinker, iDtcanMftvm tba f«ge, 
Aid a Wftams old wnoaD. wIm stmd Oeartx'a fi'lend. 
And ha Oflsn iront to her, ber aoal Tor to meou. 

Den? down, doHV, tlowa, der;y doWn 1 
*■ A JoHf M bnara-, bo Methodlat he, 
Beikovtd hia brows Jag, and was Jolly and tma: 
B« ihMCllt OeorgB did not ooine 'With Irnint intent, 
AMlKMfed «ir Ui twona to know bow It wash 
DwTf down, &e. 
« O amga fciieii thia man'ii wife, and he ofteHWet* tAhaa. 
> good liice or t>aeon he'd do ber : 

■■ He went ant *a uoad, anppoaed to bii woA, 
But (^e coHniDg riyboaU ooly went oat to lark. 
By aad bje he came in, and he fooad 'em at praye^ 
They seemed mightf zealoua, deroul, and ^oeeiw. 
Deny down, ftc 

** Ha looked oa his bacon, so cunaing and sly, 

Thee Id Qeorge*! i»i^et he east a qnf Ck ^B ; 

Aad be >aw aoaitAhlag in tt tied ap in a tag. 

Saya be, ' Honeat friead, wtiatU (boa got in tbe bag ? ■ 

Deny daws, dto. 

" ' Dear Mend,' r^ad tSsorge, ' it ia God'a holy word, 
It is Holy Scriptaro I've got fium the Loid i 
For when I'm alone^ O I caunot be Idle, 
I makiB it my pleaaure Co read at th« Bitda.' 
Deiry domi, Sec. 

" • Then pnll ont thy Bible,' Ibis good man replied, 
'Or elie, by tbe divel. Ill Bible thy hlcta; 
I'D Kbte thea, aa than ne'er waat in thy life. 
For thy BiUe ii bacon tboa'at (at froia my wiA,' 
Deny down, Ac 

" George ahnfled aboat, at length Bibk pdlad o«t, 
A great dioa of bacon Upped up in a clout j 
On he took to bla beela, hr he darst not be idle. 
And never alnce that Idnte he's preached tioot ^ Bitde. 
Deny down, Ac. 

■ Now wme hotieal fcllow^ who lead hajipy llve^ 
*'d have yoa take oare of yonr baean aud wivea ( 

Deny down, Aa." 

[J.T. F.Bn . . 
had andclpated, and therefore we «ontent onradvaa by 
■electing the above vermon from tboie kindly forwarded 
by our oonapoadcata. The aong would awaar tt Unea 
to hwre baiB ia «»e bath 1^ BoAaa OatlioiiiH hkI Pro- 
teacatiB, and, <rf aoMtt, wiUi loebjrariatioaa ai to aalt 
tbe lefolraiMMa «f both iH 


(4* a vii. 89.) 
There is a vefy inteieatiiig PV^e o* tiie mordet 
of St Thomas of Canterbory u the Quarterif 
Xmim, No. 186. S^L 16S3. It ia then Mated 
that the four kugbta on the tu^t ef tiie de»d 
rode to SaltwDod, faaviw Robwt de Broo in m** 
>eaaM»oftheBalaoe,aDd nltimatelypooeeded to 
Knareaheraafffc Caatl^ a royal nrtrcos in tin 
posaesuon of Hugh de Menvill^ wImm thej 
remained fof a yeat. Of eoniw vattMS legwidh 
were cucvkted, such at tiiat doga nfaaed to «kt 
the erumba which fell from their table. It a 
said that they went to Rome to receive tbe een- 
teaoB of Alexander III., and were sent by him to 
expiate their rias io the Holy L«ed. The legeod 
•tates that Uoieville, Fitxarae, aad Brito died 
there, and were bauied in front <^ tbe ohoioh of 
the Holy Sepulchre. Other aoooanti at*te that 
they Were intened in front «f the chnidi <rf 
Montesegro. The reviewer wosdera what tb« 
dmrtA ^Hit Slack Mimittain can metw, as it ia 
ii^asMbM they eoald have been buied befbte Um 




chuKh of the Hoi; Sepulchre, as it bu beea a 
Muue of public resoit. Could the church of 
Llaatony at the foot of the Black Mountains in 
the Vale of Ewias be meant P It vaa built by 
Hugh de Locie, a Norman bftroD, between 1108 
and 1115, for fo^ Augustine friars. Triicy, vho 
Btruck the first blow, was seized with a dreadful 
disorder at Ooeenia in Apulis, and there died in 
torment. It u said the wind had been iJways 
contmr when he wished to embark, giving' rise 
to the Gloucestershire distich ; — 
Bavt ilwif s the wind In Ihcir fuxa." 

Fou'a Jiulge*, L S79. 
The reviewer points out that the legend could 
not have been true, as Moreville, who had been 
iuatloe itinerant for Northumberland and Cumber- 
land at the time of the murder, though dismissed 
from his office the ensuing year, in the first year 
of Joha is recorded as paving twentj-five marks 
and three palfreys for holtung bis court so long as 
his wife continued in a secular habit. Camden 
says the sword he used at the murder was pre- 
sarved in the leign of Elizabeth, and is now said 
to be attached to his statue at Biayton Castle. 
Tracy was, within four years from the murder, 
j usticiaiy of Normandy, and was present at Falaise 
m 1174 when the King of Scotland did homage to 
Henry U: Biadon, in his Surrty of Dmon, 342, 
says Tracy 

"withdrew hlmMlf^ilfaer (to HarthM, Dstdh) and 
■pent the nmaintkr of bis life, and Iteth buried in an 
•nla of this church, by him built, under an ended 
mominient, with bit portniCnra easraven on a grey 
marble itone," &c. 

I have examined this tomb, and it appeals pro* 
bable that the slab of the tomb belongs to Sir 
Williain Tracy's tomb of the twelfth century, and 
the udes to that of William Tracy, rector of 
Hoithoe, who founded a chantry in the church in 

their son William resumed the name of Tracy. 
He it was, I believe, who founded the priory of 
Woodspring on the bsnka of the Bristol Channel, 
in honour of the Trini^ the B. V. M., and St. 
Thomas of Canterbury (Collinson's Someriet, iii. 
B14). And this is the foundation probably for 
the Somersetsbira tradition mentioned by your 

Fitzurae is said to have gone over to Ireland, 
and there to have become the ancestor of the 
McMabon family, the latter namo bMog the 
Celtic translation of Sear't ton. Re gave his 
estate of Willeton in Somersetshire, haff to the 
Euighta of St John, and half to his brother 
Itobert (Collinson, iii. 614). In the neighbour- 
hood Uie name degenerated into Tltzour, Fishour, 
and Usher. The family of Bret or Brito was 

carried on through his daughter Haud, who ^t« 

lands to the priory of St. lliomas at Woodapnng. 

JoBH FiaooTi, Jos., F.S.A. 

I cannot give your coirespondent any definite in- 
formation respecting tlie three "unknown graves" 
on the Flat Holms ; but I have myself visited the 
remains of Woodspring Friojn, which la situate 
about three miles Irom Weston-eupeT'-KaTei. 
There is, I believe, but little doubt that the 
tradition which ascribes the foundation of thia 
monastery to Fitzurae, one of the murderers of 
A'BeckeU, is authentic. C. Buscoxbe Pools. 

CanoingtOD, Bridgwater. 

Lady Gkiksioh's Gbave iif Tewhi CHtmcH- 
TAED (4'» S. vii. 76, 128.}— I do not believe thai 
there is the slightest foundation for the legend 
which you have printed about La:^ Anne Grim- 
ston to be found m the character of that lady. 

It is difficult at such a distance of time to 
show what were her opinions, but I have suffident 
evidence to moke me believe I^ady Anne Grim- 
ston was a religious woman. 

In the first place, she gave fifty pounds to 
Hales' Grammar School at Hertford, where the 
use of the Catechism <^ the Church of England 
is imperative. 

Secondly, there is evidence of the purchase, I 
presume by her orders, of Usher's .Bo^ of Divi- 

ter by his first wife. And, lastly, I have » 
accounts for the years 1682, 1683, 1684, vouched 
by Lady Anne Grimston (A. G.), confining 
charges both in London, at St. Ann's, 8oho, ana 
in the country at St. Michael's, St. Albans, for 
setting up the horses duiing church on Sundays. 
Our church at St Uichael's is so far from Gor- 
hambury that we are obliged to have horses out on 
Sundays, and I have an account dmilar to Sir 
Samuel Grimston's in my house books. 



Beudes this esse of Tevrin churchyard, there- 
are other places near London where large massive 
tombs of the eighteenth century have bad their 
masonry displaced, and their iron railings brokea 
or absorbed bv the growth of elm or ash-treea 

Elanted around the grave. One such instance I 
now of in the churchyard of Perivftle in Mid- 
dlesex; another in Hertfordshire at Aldenhana: 
and both these are very striking. A lees remark- 
able case occurs in the beautiful churchyard of 
Chislehurst A. J. M. 

MtTBAL PiisTiiia m Stammh Chcecb, Nok- 
T0Lx(4>^S.Ti.64S,677; vii.40.}— Youroorrespoo- ,, 
dent F. C. H., at the last reference, in regard to this' ^ 





Bumption of immediate befiiitude could have 
eotertuned of an; ordluaiy individuftl, however 
eonobled by worldly honoaro." 

It U very dangeroua to dogJistise on m«dieeval 
art witiiout a Teiy eiteiiBiTe Bcqu&intaQce wiUi it. 
F. C. H. u in error. On monuments this is of 
common occurrence. There is the little bi 
a Besnchunp in Cbekeadon cburch, Oxfordsbire, 
irbeie the Teiy dengn itself is two angels bearing 
svay the soul. The same may be seen also an the 
brusof SiTHu2hHastitigsat£lsiogiDNorfolk,aDd 
&lin^ list could easily be made. Then in Flemish 
brasses, what more common than to represent the 
soul in "Abraham's bosom," in which "beatitude' 
«eems accomplished ? Neither is thit art at all u 
discoid witb church teachings in the Middle Ages. 
In the " Dialogues of Sl Gregory," where the 
office of the angel is defined, after speaking of the 
Migel conTeying their sools to Purgatory, in 
whom there is still some sin unexpiated I^ it 
ctHtdudes, "But if, indeed, he departed in so 
mncbcbKitythat all the rust of un was consumed, 
BO that nothing purgoble remained, immedirOcly 
the holy angela received him and carried him to 
the lougdom of hearen." 

Net haviog the drawing before me I cannot 
apeak with certun^ of its details ; but if I re~ 
member rightly, neither the figure of the dying 
lady, nor of those about her, nor of the soul above, 
have the nimbut. This of itself is a fatal objec- 
tion to its representing the " Death of tho Virgm." 
Uoreover, tfie figures show a number of tonsured 
heads — monks iu fact — and one in a cope holds a 
shield of arms, the arms of the Abbey of Lawtrey, 
as F. C. H. thinks. But the latter expresses his 
cnnnion that the arms are of no imporianct. To 
this I must observe, that in medieval art every 
detail is of importance. 

The Apostles, who thouJd be at the bedside of 
the Virgin Mary, are not represented tonsured, St. 
Peter excepted; noris the general character of the 
comsoation that of the subject which your corre- 
spondent maiDlaine. 

The arms are a very important feature, and I 
believe a key to the whole. The bedside shows a 
^up of monks, beaded by their abbot or prior, 
m a cope, holding before the dying lady a coat of 
arm^ probably of their abbey. If the death-bed 
of a benefactress, what more natural than for her 
to be reminded of her charity by those benefiting, 
at tbe same time showing her the aid she bad in 
their prayers to forward her to the kingdom of 
heaven P The painting merely shows "that she 
dsparted in so much charity that all the rufit of 
tin was consumed." J. G. WiitBR. 

PoETKiiT OF JoHif Kat (i'" S. vii. 142.)— I 
have the portnut of John Kay, of Bury, «lladed 

to by Mb. Wooocbofi, but it ia unluckily pasted 
fust in my portfolio. I have also another litho- 
graphed portrut of him, but without name of 
artist or publisher, unless the signature "D. F. 
' Preatolee may refer to one of them. I have also 
a folio sheet of letterpress, contuning " A Brief 
Memoir of John Kay " on one page, and the pedl^ 
gT^es of £aye of Woodsome ana Qreenhalgh of 
Brandlesome on the other, wiUi a shield of aima 
of twenty quartarings, &o. Ac. on the other, 

frinted by F. Grant, Market Street, Manchester. 
regret that the above cannot be lent to accom- 
modate Mb. WooDCSOfx, but I enclose my card, 
in case he finds it necessary to consult them. 


"Thouqh lost to Sisht, to Mbkobt dx&b" 
(I" 8. iv. 405 i 3'* S. ri. 129, viiL 290 ; 4** S, i. 
77, 161, ir. 399, vii. 56.)— Though unable to (pvs 
any information as to the authorship of this well- 
worn quotation, I can safely aver tnat it is much 
older than 1828, as I knew it many years before 
that date. F. C. H. 

( It woaM anpmr to be nttarly f mposribts to traos tb« 
origin of this lins.] 

Thb Pbokunoutioii of Gbbbk amd Latot 
(4*^ S. vii. 13.) — Aj a discussion of this qnerr 
sufficientlv ample to be at all satis&ctory, would 
most likely lequire more space than the Editor 
could ccviveiiiently apare, let me refer Maxbo- 
CRSIK to chap. vii. of Donaldson's Vairomama on 
the " Organic Clasufication of the Original Lalin 
Alphabet" EsHUKn ^^w, M.A. 

PstcUng Beetory. 

Some eminent schoolmasters are engaged in 
conndering this matter. Let me bring to their 
notice a poem in AU the Year Evund (Jan. 31, 
1871), on Frederick the Great, entitled "Frodericoa 
Rex." It u said to be a favourite song in the 
Prussian camp. The translator, however, on all 
three occaaons on which he has to use the words, 
makes them scan Fredericus Rex. Surely tba 
Great Frederick never bad such short work made 
of him before. T. Lrwm 0, Datim. 

Thb Ikish Pi^anxtt: "Bdmpeb SaniBB 
JOKIW" (4"- S. vi. 800, 512; vii. 42.1— A Uttle 
contribution on this subject may poambW have Ik 
clum for inaertian. It is a quotation from The 
National Miuie oflrAmd', by Michael M. ConiM, 
1846) : — 

" Of timt, thara ware On Idnds :— ' the trebly npld,' 
lh« Jig plataly, and feitiTe; cUrge or Umcntition, with 
words ; bold, heroic, martlit ; ' lempo oidinsrio ;' Umenta- 

• Could anyon* pOMualng a perftct copy ofthis work 
oblieeme with K copy of tho title-puce? [■' The National 
Masic of IreUod, contalniDg the History of the Irbh 
Bani^ the National Mdodies, ti " -' --"—"- 

uaDua: raoiuuea . 
<, WelliogtonrQnay, , I p 



t4»S.Tir. Fbb.25,71. 

yt toa»l tietciBB*."— P. SO, 
Aa I oadantaad Hda sentence it eeemi thftt tbe 
jrfooxAr VM perforaaed in a " tim« " moch ^cker 
t^aa dM of a boUl, heroic, or ronrtuJ ur. If ttiis 
be tons, uid if. m Dh. lUxsi-iTLT ssyB, (^« pUaxtr 
" owei tta ongin to ttae cele4)rBted Irisn bud 
CuolM " <- N. & Q." 4* S. vi. 612^ it Tronld 
appeRT tk«t tko en^et put of Thx Khiqht of 
Iin^Towm's commiuiioatioii waa written nnder 
* moBg impieosioD aa to Ae Bpedee of aii and it* 

Aa apropos of lliii autnfict, I f^v* anotlier qno- 
tatioD bom tfao aame NaUomU Mmtic of Inimtl, 
having reference to what ia tbereia c&tled one of 
Canlta'a "nott pluf^ pimaitie*," vix^ "A 
buBper Sqnira Jooea : — 

"Tka vmA . . . ban beea ptnphraacd \ij th« 
tahateJ Banm Damoo t. aad Caralan'a brilUcnt eArion 
an loat la tbc qJaodouT of tha facatiou bana'a kuU- 
tion."— P. 228. 

Query; (1.) 'Where can "the facetioua Imtob's 
initatioii" be foond ? (asonly twoTerseeare gtven 
by mv author^) ; or (3) does he mmM tbat Qmt- 
lui'e lines are forgotten, unrecorded, and that the 
parapliraHe only exista i 

Tn followHitr planztiw will be fbund in No. 42 
of Obapnell's Mtuical Mmfoanei at the para I 
give: " rlanity Dudley," p. 6, "Plsaxty Kelly," 
p. 8; *■ FUtutt^lIrwino," «. 18, and "PUnzty 
Oonnor," p, 21. They may be of inlereat to eome 
of vou oolMmondents. TaoKAS Tuu^ Jua. 
BnugMoD, llsodieatar. 
Uooie'a beautiful funereal linea — 
■■ Ok, banqast not in the ktHi homn," M, 
•MMt it U«/nM MsMMtoomMttylnria." 
I onnfeas, bowsvcf, tb« air baaalwa^vppearod M 
pw too j«ywH far the iropda. P. P. 

Ret. SiMim, Hmxbt (4'* 9. vil », 115.)- 
SIb. TowmBEND MAT«t will find m ample u- 
- t: of Dr. Samael Henley, the trsodator of 
r«-e*, itiNieho" ■ "• - -■ --- 
ten, iii. 7Se-«6 : vul 
4, Pmi* pm, W.a 

NbtiIIb, Lord of Bergevenny, who owned Oii 
manor of Dychelyng in SusaezMo which domun 
the Bwd " native " belonged. Posribly T. Q. C. 
rememben something about this case,- it is the 
latest iostance of slsveiy I have read of. I have 
heard notbinc' of the Sossex fishermen to lead me 
to snppoae they were other tban privilegod a< 
- - ■■ Ith the rest (except in Kent), for they 

ompared w 
leuly aU b 

334. W. P. CoTTRTirar, 

JOsiBOit {9^ 8. vii. 12, 125.)— Tlie real toigon 
is the Greek draco, Vrbii^ baa no feet, and tc^ I 
beUere, vrh&t it Mw catted the boa-constriclon 
(9ee DioBcotid^) Taos. PBiLUm. 

FisBXUfSF nr nM Olmv Tm <4* S. vi. 
988.)— Andrew Borde, a * native," received bis 
manamisaion In the year 1610 fhim G«orge 

* ThbH 


IE>xoB^n«r M inlHd, fm^ Qnaen Ajhw, 
} Banw Andrew Dawaoo'i vnmm is prtnMl in 7Ka 
jvw/ru* Sow-Bflnl^ editad by J. E. CmaaliBr. L«ad. 
I««7,p.ll6.— Ed.] 
i -All macadn, l>y Hn w>v, to adilcd bf Dh Bin- 

HoLTT, THK Gbkxah Pobi (4'*' 3. vi. 177, 
!83.)— There are trsuslatjoos — OT perhaps para- 

fhrsaes would be the better word — of several of 
[olty's poems in the DtAUii Umeermlp Magiaim 
for 1837-S. The translator waa James Clarence 
Mangan, the fi^ftad aod ill-fated. D. Buts. 


Hakpshirs ComTRT CHnsCHriKO: Pepts's 
Du3T <4'* 8. vi. 6.)— The allouoa in Pepye is 
deariy to the cburchyaid of Ticbfield, where tiie 
icmMBS of the fiae caatle of the Barls <rf South- 
ampton are still to be seen. It sthkea me, at 
twen^ yaan' distance in time, that aage grew 
abaadiaatty ia tfae cbatdiyard whw I knew it. 

D. BLilB. 


TmotHt DSXTTO (4* S. vi. 815.) — "Lord 
Timothy Dexter/' «e called, resided in Newbury- 

CEksez CO., MaM., for^ miles north-east of 
on, on ^e coast, for many years in a la^ 
briA hottSB, which in his lifetime *>s aurmonded 
wiA many carved wooden images or statnes of 
mwe than life nxe. l^e house 1 have aeen many 
times. 3. W. Uptos. 


" Q*r.i«inA» "(4* S. iv. 294.)— This word waa 
certaii^y not ooined bjr Fielding. Noel et Chapsal 
most correctly define it thus: "Melange oenfua 
de mota <iui tembleat dire quelf ue dioae et iWt 
point de sena." 

They do not, however, give the folloiriag 
account of the word, which t met with many 
years'ago— so many, that my memory tieaidierOusly 
declines telling me ipA«r«. In those olden limea 
when the " doctor** " ar^ed pmnta of law ia 
Latin, a learned (P) counsellor, while stating tkt 
ease of hi* client Matthias and a cock ^which 

Eirttuned unto him), grew so confused in hia 
atiai^, that, after a while, he ceased to speak of 
"Oallus Matthin," bat, contrariwiM, of "tialli 
'Matthias." Hence a senseless and inaccurate 
jumble of words came to be styled '' Galimatias." 


SAiEBneci CrsTOM (4* S. Vi 477; vii. 107.) 
The custom alluded to by Mil Tdixt h still 
observed in many parts of Leylandshire and 
■'- LmoasbiTe). Im my HWf 
ra a notice of it ^ that d 

» a. VII. Tbb. 25, 71.] 



trict the eve of Maj 1 is called " May Bough 
Night," and I give the following as a sample of 
the emUemittic meaning attached to the Yuioua 
bees: — A wickin (i.*. a mountun aeh)=Mj dear 
chkikeD ; a plum tree in bloom=to be married 
and aooD ; a briaisa liar. H. FiSHWiCK. 

I have kuomi Lejlacd aboTs fifty years, and 
my father, a noticer of old cuetoms, must hare 
kdown it nearly fifty years before that, but I have 
never seeDoiheordof auchacustooi aa Mb. Tullt 
taeDtioua, and I tbeiefoie conclude he ia mistaken 
aa to the locality. May day is observed in Ley- 
land by the meetiuof of the trustees of an importout 
charity, ajid the ebildrea attend church. Royal 
Oah day, the 29th of May, ia also a great day in 
LejloDcl, for the clube aud benefit eocietieH hold 
thw aouual festival upon it. On Whit Monday 
the Sunday scholars march vith garlands upon 
wands provided by ladies 'who take an interest in 
them ; but the ansver to Ms. Tcllv'b queries is 
mmply that no such cuiitom ia known. The re- 
mans about Lichfield seem to refer to the " vraJk- 
ing the boundaries," which was practised Id many 
places at Rc^tion tide and on Ascension day. 

Ak Qui iNHABiiAirr. 

Thb Anoaltvsi (4>^ a vi. 166.)— Ft* a 
Kunmaiy of Ewald'e views oa the lUvektioB, 
F. M. S. ahonld consult Anberiok'a masterly wotk 
on n« FivpAgeiti of Dmid and tA« Sevtiatian 
of St. JU«, translated by Adoteb Sapbir, and 
published by T. & T. Clark, E£nburgb, 1860. 
To me thia lemarkahU vohime ia itoelf an Afoco- 
lypM. IX BuiH. 


Caloui (4>* 3. lii. 06.)— Surdy this word is 
a mere metathesis of etmnAal, like Ben Jonson'i 
Bobadil from Baabdii. Makbochbis. 

Who is a LaikdP (4" S. vi. 483} vii 13.>- 
The query of C. S. K. is an interesting one. The 
Uurd was imginally a feudal barou, and as such 
was dominut. Bat in proceae of time the dfr- 
Rgnation of lord or loird was applied not to 
pioprieton of baronies onb^, but to laodowneis 
ffOMrally. In the Scottish " uK^niaitiiHis,'' dommut 
nM]«enUy precedes a name which has parlionaHus 
after it. "nat pi»tioMia of land ore ordinarily 
■tyled Mdt does not admit of anv doubt In 
tiie Kiricsewion Keoords of St. Andrews certun 
familiee *t Boarhilla — soch as Philp, Armit, and 
etfceie— «N ilyled poHiontra, while the heads of 
these faDuSes have &om time inunemorial beea 
neeted as lairds. Portiosers ware not necessarily 
MBM*, hut mi^t he holdus ai portions of load 
■mtiA had helMgod to the chsrdk or the feudal 
bwcwa. Eatatea weie KHaetimes broken up and 
ontioned omongr members of families. (Belt & 
Bms's Digad of Us Lmo of Scoliand. Edinburgh, 
ISSftAl.) In a country where &mily pride vaa 

so predominant as in Scotland, titular deaig- 
nations were coveted. The farmer was at chur^ 
and market saluted by the name of his farm, and 
the owner of only a few acres was hailed aa " the 
laiid." In old times there was hatdly any other 
designation for a gentleman ; he was dominut — 
he bore dominion. The title maxter has an aca- 
demic origin. A graduate 'ta arts was styled 
"master,' and no other. Afterwards the paro- 
chial cle^y were so designated out of respect for 
their office. Ijatteily, imtter became the title of 
a gentleman. The ^ttish schoolmaster was an- 
ciently, in respect for hia learning, styled ifonwM. 
As university trwiung became mote common 
among Scottish taachera they cUinjed nwwfer as 
a higher title. 

Territorial deugnations in Scotland do not cease 
even when the lands with which they are con- 
nected are alienated. Thus we have Lord Ool- 
ville of Culroea. Hy l«te friend. Sir Jamee 
Menteth, Bart, claimed the designation " of 
C^oeebura," when no longer proprietor of that 
estate. And my relative. Sir John Ogifrr, Bart, 
M.P. for Dundee, is atill designatsd "of Inrer- 
quharihr," thourh laverquharity estate long mnee 
passed into the bands of the LyeUs of Einnot^. 
Were I personaUy ambitious of constituting a sept 
I might, without presumption, designots myaell 
"of Coupar-Oronge," though my aneeatm' was of 
that estate a portioner only, and though that por- 
tion has long been alienated. 

Charles RosiBi^ LLD. 
Buowdonn TilU, L««i>baiB,S.K. 
Old Sahdowr Cabtlb, Isib of Wisht (4* SL 
vl, 569 ; vii. 103.) — The last remainder or SoB' 
down Castle, which for many yean was used as 
an office bv the Koyal Euguieers* department, 
was removed in 186^70 to make room for vrorks 
connected with the aaticmal defences of the Ule of 
Wight. A very fine old carved oak chimney-|nece 
contuning many armorial bearings Mmamed to 
tks last, and ia, I believe, still pnierved in the old 
material store of the Royal Engioeen at Sasdown, 
from whence, so doubt, whsa die latter Mc^vea 
its annual clearing, it will be sold for firewood at 
the ensuing auction, unless sonie ODtiquarian mu* 
seum put in[a cUim for it. H. Q. 


Smijtb (4'^ S. vi. 474; iu. 48.)— I have lees 
" Smith " in every age unoe the Cimquest ayelled 
Sm^the, Smiths, Smyth, awl Suilh, w the am» 
arbttmy foshioa as any other nont^ hut Kevei 
before the eighteMth century (tovaids the xaiir 
die) have oMerred it spelled "Smijtb." Thie 
cannot be a dotted y, beeonse no y in ow othe* 
name or word aj^ears, so far as I remenMr; so 
distingnished. I should think hy tlw aiMswt 
short and loBfrir'a double dotted M was tetcaded^ 
Smiith ; yet it is very curious and hiexplicabtv 
that this mode should have eprony up ik Vtvtf i ^-^ 



[4"S,VU. FSB-W,-! 

port of ths country at a certain period, and for a 
very few jeaxt, and then dirappeared for ever ; and 
not tlie least Cttiious, perhaps, that the f««hion 
abonld have been ezcIuBivel; confined to church 
Tegieten {?). Ferhnpa in this circurastnnce a 
solntion of the difficulty may be found at the 
hands of some of your more ancient clerical 
coirespondeots. Fosnblj M. D. is correct as 
to the analogy to Ffoliott and FfariDston — an 
OTthography originating in the abeuni mietfikea of 
jtrinters — th« double amtllf (_^ being used in old 
times in lieu of the capital, and still employed in 
the law, just as the old Roman numerals with 
fbeir final long/a are in phyaic. T. Hblbbt. 

Ifi, York Chambers, Stag StrMt, Manebulcr. 

Notwithstanding the Statement in Burke's Perr- 
age mid Baronetagt, that " the patriarch of this 
&mily (the spellinfr of whose surname is of 
rare occurrence in England) was '* John Smijth, 
Esq.," who lired (amp. Henry VIIL, I incline to 
the opinion that the name, after all, is really but 
Smith and Bmyth. In former days I find it 
usual for mayors of this town to write after 
their names '' Maior." and frequently the Latin 
"Major." The official in 1714 writes "Maijor," 
whidi may b« read either as Maijor, or. with a 
dotted y. Mayor. It is easy to sea from this how, 
*t the bifling coat of two dots. Smyth could be- 
come Smijth. Chables Jacksox. 

I notice that Sp. considers the modem name 
Smijth to be an orthographical error, having for 
its fonndation an ancient method of double- 
dotliag a y, thus y. There is an old and common 
family name of ^P.'s which often appears in pedi- 
grees of families with whom Sp.\ hare inter- 
married : I mean "Obiit," spelled also in old MSS. 
Ohijt, thus reverdng the chronological change in 
Smiith. Can 8f. tell whether this name was ever 
spelled Obyt, with a dotted yp L. N.O.N. 

Hditb to Ceaismxit (l!^ S. vii. 66.)— Hr. 
Effingham Wtlaon has published a shilling hand- 
book OD the management of public meetings. 


Qfsek Elieabbtb; Rbai Pkrsoits in "Thi 
Faxbie Qttbkit " (i-* S. vii. 49.) —I will not 
c|uestiou Mb. EnaoTLET's judgment in ssjign- 
nsreal persons to the names in Spenser's poem. 
The whole tenor of the poem is what would be 
natural in the work of such a man as we know 
Spenser to have been. But I wish to draw atten- 

"I find, by (he w«y, th»l thne are peraons who 
WonU SBcrificB bfstoric trntli ia faU« ildicscv, anj irho 
Uame oie and olberd for vindioling the filr rsm« of the 
great qiwsn li^nn ihc fool upersion* of Dr. Lingard and 
his antlioritin, even ttiangh lomeirhst at the expfiiw of 
her hendam," Ac 

1 do not know who the persons are of whom 
Mb. Kbiobtlbt is speaking ; nor do I underataod 
the contrast suggested by defending her fair fame 
"at the expense of her heroism." But the fair 
fame of Elizabeth ia a thing iu which probably 
few persons have now anv belief. In ner own 
dav it seems that fewer still, if any, would have 
beliered her to have deeerred what we mean by 
"fair fame"; and 1 beg to point out to Mb. 
Ebisbtlbi that the convenient summary of" the 
foul aspersions of Dr. lingard and his authori- 
ties " does not approach the question as it Dow 
stands, and therefore does no good to the memory 
of Elizabeth. 

An article in the Salardaj/ Review of 7an. 14, 
1871, headed "Calendar of State Papers," will 
show MB-EBisHTLBTwhat is the state of modem 
opinion. And if it is still his pleasnre to describe 
a generally accepted view of her cbaracler as 
"foul aspersions, he must include the documents 
at Simancas and English State Papers in his ooa- 
demnalioD. D. P. 

Sioarii Lodge, Malrem Wells. 

Ballasallbt (4*^ 8. t1. 476, 583.)— Posdbly 
some member of the Manx Socnetv, aided by loctu. 
history or tradition, may be able to nfibrd the 
information required. In the meandme, I would 
i suggest that the name may poeubly have the fol- 
lowing, one or other, derivation : 1. Balla (town), 
Saaiiiey (btine) ; 2. BaUa (town), ^aaiey (mo«t 
beautiful); 3. .Bottn (town), &dley (salting); 4. 
BaUafXoyni), Soyllty (enjoyment). 

There are other words more or less proximate, 
allied, or related to the above ; but poaubly those 
now adduced may be auffident to point to the 
correct meaning and deriration.1 

2, 4. If the locsli^ was selecUd as the site of 
a monastery, on account of its delightful and 
enjoyable position, then S and 4 show prabal»li^ 
of derivation. 

1, 3. If the locality was a fish-onring station, or 
d^p6t for salt, Ac, then 1 and 3 point to the dmi- 

3. But, if literal construction is to decide tha 
derivation, then 3, BaUa &^-salting-tawn- 
town of salting, is conclusive. J. Bxalk 

SioHiTABr Atn> SiGNATAKTBs (4"> S. vi. 602; 
vii. U.)—Boiti these words ara spelt wrongly. 
Signatory is the right spelling, from ligmUor, a 
signer or sealer. It is a word commonly used by 
writers on diplomacy ; through the Italian it 
would run most readily into this messing, only 
the e would in English revert to the Latin i. 
Sigitatory, even in Webeter'a Dirtumarv, is only 
given as an obsolete adjective firom the Lattn 
»>^naforiiw=used to seal with. iSr]pHDttini<isaquite 
different word, and signifies a pbysiognomisti 
whose science interprets iniddes from outsides, 
all created things being suppnaed by such pro- 
fessors to carry imprinted upon them their Maker's 

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C. A. W. 

intention, u wax coireapoadB to the BJgnet. A^ 
earedly tbia b not what diplomaUsts intend b; 
ngnator;/ ; lot vbataver Mgn they put forth ' 
1m interpreted by its contrary. 

This word b eimply barbarous. You might as 
-well vrite ttrnttarii for amatory. Mb. Tagnch 
iriU find tignaivry in Richardson. 


" H18SILB AD UsuM Saeuk" (4" a vi. 436, 
558 ; Tii. 64>_F. O. H. auggeHtotbat the date of 
& M3. may be ascertained by means of the date on 
' -which Easter Day falls. The same idsa occurred 
to me some time ago ; but as every MS. calendar 
which I bave since eiauined places Baster Day 
on Uarch 27, I hare come to the conclusion that 
it was conrentioaally placed on that day, in which 
cue the above theory of course falls to the 
ground. F. H. H. 

FBAHCIS, ElRL OF BOTHWELL (4"* S. \\. 422 ; 

fii. 63.) — Dr. Rakioe is quite ligbt, and the 
date stated by me was wrong. I took it from a 
notice (in No. zix. of the Herald and Oeneah/fttt, 
p. 19) of a seal of this esrl, figured in the first 
series of Laing's Scottish Seala. The creation cer- 
tainly took mace before December 10, 1SS5, on 
which day Francis, Earl of Bothwell, as heK- 
ditaty admiral of Scotland, is found tailing pre- 
cedence in voting, of Francis, Earl of Errol, the 
hereditary constable. See Acts of the Scottish 
Parliament, vol. tii. p. 376 (cited in Biddell's 
Atrofft Law, vol. i. p. 166). As January then 
followed December in the calendar, this transac- 
tion occurred more than a month before the date 
of BothwelVs charter, quoted by Dk.Bamaoe. It 
is certainly curious to find him dealiag with the 
kirk-lands of Cloeebum, but strange things hap- 
pened in those days of tulchan bishops and lay 
abbots. I hope seme one will clear up the mys- 

a about his brothef-german Hercules Scott, 
how the latter came by his surname. 
The magnificent remainBofCricbt«n Castle still 
attest the power and dignity of his ancestors — the 
Hepboms — whose devices, anchors and cordage, 
a* nigh admirals of Scotland, are traceable, carved 
in stcne) on various parts of the 

Pasodibs (4<* S. vi. 476 j 

10, 106.1— There 

f Tennyson's " Cbra Vera 
da' Were," the other, of Lon^elbw's " Norman 
Baron." Can any oF your readers inform me of a 
complete parody on ^akespeare'a HamktT 1 am 
told that such a thing exists. J. C. T. Uaix. 

Tie Poetic Mirror- ; or the Living Sardt of 
Britain. Longmans, 1816. This is reviewed, and 
■ome extracts given in the Quarteriy Beview, 
No. XXX. Reference is also made to two articlea 

OD Parodies, in No. xv. I have not that number 
at hand, but probably it contuns further informa- 
tion on the subject. T. Lbwis 0. Daviks. 

Pear Tree Yicari^e, Sontbtmploii. 

I have a copy of The PoeUe Mirror ; or the 
Living Barde o/Brilam, second edition, published 
by Longmans, 1817 : which contuns parodies of 
Byron, Scott, Wordsworth, Hogg, Coleridge, 
Southe^, and Wilson. Before it came into my 
possession some one had written on the title-page, 
■' by James Uogg, the Ettrick ShephenL" 

R. E. 


Among the books of parodies and imitations in 
my possession, of which 1 gave a list at p. 16, I 
find that I acddentally missed one, the tide of 
which I now subjoin ; — 

" Rival Rhvmea In HononT of Bams. With earloni 
Illuslritive Matter. CoUecKd and Edited by BaaTio- 
vato." Loudaa (Routledge), small Svo, I8J9- 

WiLUAii Bates. 

Levbsbll (3" S. z. 608 ; xi. 66, 284, 483 ; xii. 
402.) — Mb. Skbat says he does not remember this 

word elsewhere than in the two Chaucerian 
passages and in the Fromptorium. I have just 
come upon it in the Aiiiari of ArUter in Robson's 
Three Metrical Romancei (Camden Society) ; 
and, as the ledfa id is there described witJi mucli 
clearness, I think the lines are worth quoting in 

" By s lanryel be lay, vndsr a lefe sale, 
or box and of barbaric byssyt fel beae." 

SUnia 6. 
Halliwelt quotas leveeele from Occleve, in con- 
necdon with the tavern. Chatterton seems to use 
the word correctly in the two instances I re- 
member : — 

" As Elyaaiu bie the green leaselle ns gyttTnee." 

" No moe the amblyai:^ pilfrie and the borne 
Shall fri>m Iba leisel toOzB the faie aw^e." 

EiiHoart and Jttga. 

I find no difficulty in the leveueOe of the tavern. 
Such arbours are common enough in suburbs and 
country at the present day. Joen Axdjs. 

Bbautt but SKra-DBBP (i*^ 8. ii. 294.)— This 
may be found in Ralph Venaing'a Orthodoxe Pora- 
doxet, third edition, i»ndon, 1650, p. 41 : — 

"All the beaot; of the world 'tis bat skin-deep, ■ 
Bonoe-blast defaeetb it." 

W. 0, B. 

The Hok. Cathbrinb Sotjthcote (4** 8, vi. 
646 1 vii. 64.) — She was the youngest daughter of 
William, second Baron Widdrington (who died in 
1676), and married Edward (or Edmund) South- 
cote, of Blyborough, co. Lincoln, Esq. She died 
at Cambray, in Flanders, in 1768, as appears from 
the OeaHeman'i Magaane (xxviii. 292J, when h^i^ ^ 



[*«■ 8. Til. Feb. 25, TI. 

husband's Christian name u sud to have been 
Edmund. The fourth Lord Widdrington and his 
brothers iwre out in 1715 in favour of the Stuarts, 
and were tried and Convicted of high tieason. 
They were hoirevec pardoned, but the barony 
and bsrcmeb^ were forfeited. See The l^troffi 
«/ &fftmtd (and 9i. 1716) and Burke's JMtnci 

On the floor of fte north aisle of Blybomngh 
church ia a atone " To the memory of Dorothy, 
wife of Edmtmd Southcote, who died in 1714, 
aged sixty." The persons here mentioned were 
probably the parents of the husband of the Hon. 
Catherine Souihcots, and the followioff her hus- 
band : — By the side of the above tomb is a slab 
to the memory of Bdmund Soatlioote, Esq., who 
died in 1725, aged forty-five. See A JButory of 
Oa Couniy o/Lmee^, 4(o, 1838 ^l 36). £. V. 

"Hilabioh's Ssbvakt, tsk Sabb Cbow" (4> 
S. vii. 11, 113.) — I possess an old volume lettered 
on the back Lives of the Saints, going very minutely 
into all their minwles and suponiatuFal doings, 
Uilarion Abbot among the rest; but although 
13 pages are devoted to him, there is nothing to 
euf^ort Vaaghau's alluaon to him and the crow. 
Your correepcndeDt F. C. U. suggests a mistake 
of Uilarion for Paul, which sends me heck to my 
Legenda Avrta, where 1 find under " The Life dif 
St. Paule the firat Heimite," that he, being on a 
certain occasion — 

" In commwiinatiaii with St. Antonj, there cams a 
erowe and Mtt on a tree iheieby, who flying aofUy eeere 
VDlo tbnn, let Toll a wbols toaSb, and went swaj- ; then 
said Paul to AnlDDj, Blessed be tiod that bath Knt vic- 
tual! for V8 to eate ; know brother Antony tbat it ii six 
jeres since thia crowe hatb eeny day broa^bt me bslib 
a loaffe, bnt now at thy coming the' Lord bath doubled 

After F. C. H.'s correction I should not have 
troubled you with mine, but being desirous of 
ascertiuniag something more about my authority, 
I take the opportunity of inquiring what is known 
nbout this Xiuei of we Saints, It is a dumpy little 
quarto, my copy without title, b^inning " Table 
of the Names of all the Sainta contwned in this 
Hooke, and, Kalendar wise, rune to p. 938, Nov. 25, 

July 31, p. 17, 1 
of an appendix t 
thus: — 

ing on with new matter as 
page 63, where the book ends 

" Approbstor Ilornm Sanctorum Yitn ex aliji longins 
in AiiKlicam i, D. Edoaaido Kineatnan Veres, tnto et 
oura fructu edi possunl. Andomarop. 27UaiJ, IiJ>.cuiii. 
■Joan, FloydoB, Soc leau TheologiB," 


Falls of Foters and Olaioia ( d"" 8. vi. 501 ; 
vii. 62,)— The names Glamma, Glamoir, Glom- 
men, might with equal reason be derived from the 
Su.-Goth. ^ima (Isl. ghymi, G. ghmme, obUvisd 
(conf. the river Ldhe) ; or from gUmma, micare, 

I comscare (Ed. Ifoma, lux) ; or glamma, elreiHtnia 
I edere (Isl. glamnt, sttepere crepere, gUimr, strepi- 
tus, glymr, resonantia) ; or from 8a.-Oodi. jpwn^ 
jrom, tepidusi orlal. Jibi, lacuna, alsoatagnum V. re- 
ceeeus stagni. But a more probable derivation would 
be from the Celtic itm, hit, Hm, aqua (Boxh. lit 
Lex. AtU, Brit, timi, liquor), with the not on- 
common prefix g. Gonf. the riverGIan (Carinthia), 
whence Klagenfurt, t. e. the ford of the GUm at 
Kiagea; the Lune (Let. £iou), a river of FJng- 
landi the German rivets Leine and Lane (by 
some Zona, Lamu, Iioganut; the IsL Id, taqyua, 
unda, alao aqua; the Welsh Bi, a flux, flood, 
ctream, Ga^c and Erse km, aqua. 

R. S. Chahhock. 
Gray's Inn. 

Thb Mbxobt op Skblls (i'^ S. vi. 297.) — 
Hazlut is right in liis assertion that it is im- 
possible to remember smells, for the faculty of 
memory can only t>e exercised upon objects wMch 
have been seen or impressions made upon the 
organs of hearing. Bak-Foutt aaye he can recall 
at any time the smell of the binding of his school 
books ; but if be considen a moment, and anelysea 
his mental operations, he will find that he first 
recalls by memory the outward appearance of ths 
books, and then (by a totally distinct faculty) li« 
fancies what their amell was. The whole process 
is a good example of the association of ideaa. 
Taste and smell aie'closelr connected in many 
points, and the same law holds good with the 
sensations of taste. Bab-Point cannot remember 
the taate of the cakes which were in favonr when 
he was at school, unless he fitet remembers what 
the cakes were like in outward appearance. Then 
it is easy, by the exercise of fancy, to endow them 
with the attributes of sweetness, flavour, &c., 
which had formerly such a charm for him. The 

Socess in fact ia an instance of what Mr. J. S. 
Ill bnppily calls "mental chemistry"; the one 
operation oi the mind idmost unconsdously gene- 
rates the other. 

The mental sequence of these two operations of 
thought will be more clearly seen by reverffli^ 
the process, Una Bab-Point ever noticed how, 
as it were by a mental flnah, a smell fluently 
calls up an idea of place F Association of ideas Is 
in thia case again the enchanter. Thus I never 
pass a yew-tree hedge in my garden without its 
mdescnbable old-worid fragrance instantly re- 
calling to my mind an old nail in Derbyshire, a 
bundrcd mile* away, in the garden of which in 
some wonderful examples of the topiarian art with 
which I firat made acquaintance when quite a 
cliild.. Similarly, the peculiar odour which docu- 
ments give out after they have been kept in a 
drawer a lon^ time, irresistibly reminds me, when- 
ever I smell it, of a certain brass-bound mahogany 
desk some two counties removed from my hoQie. i ^ 
Fbl&sicb^ I C 

4*S.Vn. Fkb.25,'71.1 



John Botbt (4"' S. tU. 11.)— The name ia pro- 
perly spelt BoflTsj (proDOUQced Boorej), and the 
amilyia DOW represented by Sir Thoma« Crawley- 
Boecey, Bart., of Flailey Abbey, co. Gloucester. 
Johe £<Hirey was ths brother of the